The only man on Earth that could get away with comparing a Eurofighter Typhoon to a Citroen BX 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

You think I got away with it? I'm not convinced! No mobs outside though, yet, so you never know!

I started working with Citroën when the BX was on its last legs, and I’m glad I had the opportunity to do a lot of business trips on them. The company of course would use the 19TZD, so you only got 64 bhp to play with... but it would keep speeding tickets down. The ride was indeed the very best I have experienced, and with very characteristic body movements. Doing 600+ miles in a day with several hours’ meetings in between was absolutely effortless... well, perhaps except for wishing for twice the horsepower on the way home. One trip I even got a 16V petrol, which was absolutely hilarious chasing BMW 3 series down the German Autobahn. The car’s looks didn’t prepare the rest of the traffic for the experience of being left for dead in the slow lane at 100 mph in hilly bends. And the GTI seats were wonderful, especially for blasting through Autobahn bends.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

The 16V is ridiculously capable, I love mine dearly. A-B momentum is so, so easy to keep up

Thanks for sharing! My bro-in-law used to have had one of these . I helped him replace the bearings on the rear suspension arms and all the brake suspension pipes only driveway when I lived in Demead

As a Citroen fanatic...love your vids mate..had the same model as the one your driving...great cars..had 2 BX`s an amazing GS1220...3 CX`s...driving an 83 Pallas that have owned for 20 years at the moment(only in perfect weather)...and 4 XM`s all 6 cylinders...im my opinion one of the best cars ever built...done over a million klms in the XM`s..all over Europe...never an issue...Citroens are just amazing cars..and yes have subscribed..keep up the good work

38 minutes of gloriously witty consciousness with scenery. Best viewing experience of the week so far!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 👍

A small tip for improving the screen wash as the small holes in the pipe on the wiper arm tend to block easily: Use the wiper arm screen wash nozzle of the Mercedes MB 100 van of the 80s and 90s it costs only little at a mercedes van dealer and with some flexible wiper wash hose you can clamp it on the wiper arm instead of the plastic pipe on it... (tech tip from German Citroen car owners club)

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers. A few people do similar with Iveco jets.

@jwsoaresjones1560

2 жыл бұрын

Yay! A tip I can use and do!

The fabulous verbalised thoughts of the cheerful but slightly resigned lover of cars from a strange gap in time. We had two BX and an XM and life will never be as good again. And nobody understands. But they are wrong. And the rant (the reasoned thought) on low-profile tyres and mesh and stiff springs is spot on. A part of the reason for the ability to cover ground swiftly (the Typhon analogy) is that Citroen had always (ALWAYS) understood how cars were used.... Not for 0-60 times or top speed or anything.... But for swift transit along the highway at legal speeds. Someone clever once described the DS21 as the fastest car in the world to drive at 80%. He (or she) was right. So many seemingly slow Citroens were madly rapid point-to-point: AX, GS, BX, CX, even C15 and the old flat twins.... Wonderful video. Wonderful car. But I'm glad I no longer have one.... Thank you.

@Salman-sc8gr

11 ай бұрын

Cx turbo d held world speed record for diesels till 90s

‘It has rear electric windows. Which don’t work’ Love The deadpan delivery!!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Just stating facts!

Between you and Jack I’ve fallen in love with the Citroen BX - arguably 40 years too late.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Nonsense, go search the classifieds!

Just watched the vid, I looked at the length and thought maybe I’d just watch the intro and comeback to the rest later. Yet I found it engaging enough to capture my attention and ended up seeing it through to the end. Incidentally you referred to the chimney being demolished, it’s so odd to know it’s no longer there it was an iconic part of the landscape.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh, that's a lovely comment, thanks! I do that sometimes myself. Yeah the chimney going is weird. Lived on the Solent for over a decade and very used to it being there.

That camera angle worked very well! Love the original gauge cluster, shame they changed it to boring dials soon after...

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

The mk2 is still very funky compared with most cars, so it's not a major loss luckily.

@flipperMAN2001

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN My 16 Valve dash fitted to an BX19TRI Estate/Break was jaw dropping :-)

Love your sense of humour 😀

I had two BX’s, a brand new ‘88 1.9 DTR Turbo as a company car which was just fabulous! It was quick, so comfortable and was incredibly economical for the 90k miles I put on it in 3 years and never broke down. In the mid-90’s I decided to buy another one, this time a 1.4 petrol. This car was an absolute dog and disaster, so many things went wrong, two clutch box levers and a heater fan alongside countless other electronic niggles. But in 2023 I’d love to have another on my drive, a diesel for sure. My dream would be a warehouse full of classic Citroen’s and Merc’s.

I loved my old MK1 BX 1.9 TRD Estate which I ran for a year and a bit in the 90s, I had to carry as many bottles of LM as I could buy as it was always leaking and my mechanic (I am not competent enough to turn a spanner!) never solved the problem. The diesel was fine when moving but at standstill on idle one could feel their fillings working loose. I got what I’d paid my mate for it when I sold it and warned the buyer about the Octopus leak, he remedied it in days. The ride, steering and brakes of these wonderful character full cars beats most others into a cocked hat, if not as complete an experience of the wonderful CX I ran in the 80s, I still fondly remember driving the old thing.

Thank you for fond memories of my old 'B' reg 16RS which was an excellent car but was ended by rust

Soo special with the Cx type speedo.

I do love The BX , I’ve had two and driven many of friends and families BXs too. One of mine had a very stiff clutch pedal, hard to push down, until I discovered the pedal box was split and bent. A hammer and arc welder sorted that out 👍

Really good video, Rich. Well done mate 👍

"My favourite road in the area". I know that road well and travelled along it lots of times as a child in the passenger seat of many new BXs back in the 80's. Thanks 👌

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I've done silly things in BX 16Vs down that one.

I have good memories of the series 1 BX 16trs! 👍👍

Citroen BX. 'Magic Carpet Ride' - by Steppenwolf ( Film : Easy Rider ). I owned a 3 year old BX19GT in 1988. And an '88 19RD in 2000.. Cars may have become more powerful, but road speeds, and general driving haven't really changed. My recollection of the BX's, particularly the GT, is that you wouldn't chuck them around in the same way as something modern, but once you 'connected' with the car, you'd make fast progress easily.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right. Throw it around sharply like a modern and you'd just fall over, but if you change to suit the car's style, you can go very quickly A-B in them. Because they're so composed, you end up feeling more confident yet relaxed at the same time.

@jfv65

2 жыл бұрын

Similar sized modern cars are probably 200-350kg heavier these days. A Golf 1 weighed about 900kg, a Golf 8 weighs 1200kg? Same for Ford escort/focus and Vauxhall Astra. Etc. It's because off all additional electric functions that need motors, like power locks, mirrors, seats, windows and stuf like airbags + control module, ABS + control module, nav system, wheels and tires are wider. Brakes are bigger. Sound deadening is more substantial. It all adds up. That's why 90hp in a BX probably feels just as fast as a modern 120hp car. Not as safe though. That's a fact. You are substantialy more vulnerable in a early 1980's car then in a 2021 car of the same size.

@truthseeker8483

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfv65 Yes crash safety wouldn't be great in the BX compared to modern hatchbacks

Lov the rants, unleash the fury, repackage the fury,😄 .

I remember them light switches, loved the suspension, used on a few floods, had 4, 2 auto 1.6trs, 1 manual 1.6 trs,and 1 auto 1.9trs nearly had gti but sold before i made my mind up to buy it, all in late 80s and early 90s would love one again.

The "This Old Tony" hand talking was unbelievable. Great stuff.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I've Googled that and still don't know what it means, but thanks!

@gugglebox

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5ymltyCctC5m9I.html Hopefully it will make sense now.

Great video, takes you back 30 years when sanity prevailed, way ahead of it's time. It's Frog, maybe pause for thought? Waft in peace.

My late Dad was a Citroën fan, having bought a new moonraker blue montego which randomly dumped its entire engine oil one morning as he drove it out of the garage at a moth old he took me to Carlisle Citroen dealer to drive the new BX, first a 17 rd then a 19 rd, he bought a new 19 rd in burgundy with beige interior. It was a 1986 d reg, with the rolling drum speedo. He px'd it for a 1989 19 rd which in turn I got as he bought a Zantia. Wish i still had the bx after visiting the unexceptional car show last week. Enjoyed your thoughts on your bx.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin

Regarding the 'strange' light switch; It's actually because of the old french regulations from the time when you were supposed to use sidelights in lit urban environment and use dipped beam for flashing (or if it was the other way around..) when you needed to warn other cars in crossings and such. You were not allowed to use high beam. All french cars had the 'Village' config - toggle between sidelights and dipped beam, as described above - and 'Route' for open roads where you toggled between high and dipped beam. Makes perfect sense ;D

The MK1 dash was genius, the ergonomics were fantastic. Had two 16 TRS, one of which was apparently an original UK demonstrator car. Sadly, it was written off by an ambulance.

@UPnDOWN

Жыл бұрын

Would have been an 'RBX' plated car if that were the case.

@wispywonder1650

Жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Indeed, A290RBX, in metallic desert bronze, with alloy wheels and a factory-fitted manual sunroof. She was a real looker. Having spent a small fortune having most of the hydraulic pipes replaced, she was written off while parked. I loved that car!

12:30 - That sounded so quintessentially British 😂

My mum had a red G reg 1.6 with electric windows in the front.. I think we all thought it was excellent. I'd forgotten how vulnerable one felt though - the doors look an inch thick from the inside. It's a shame there aren't more available.

Great video and I love your sense of humour! Always makes me smile. And who is this Nubnut person!!!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

'Nubnut?' Never heard of 'em! haha

Best BX waffle in the world, ever. So, what did we learn? Eurofighters can fly, the light switch is stupid, the ride is alright, modern cars are crap, sometimes stuff works, and a man with an SM doesn't want to be seen. HubNut should be worried. His level of waffelge is nowhere close to this. Epic.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ian's to blame, he encouraged me 😆

Great little drive Rich, really enjoyed the drive. Have to agree a older car is the way to go, I have a 18 year old 75, (not as old as the BX) as my daily and I much prefer it over my 4 year old Skoda (even through the little 3 cylinder Skoda is a hoot to drive) older cars do have much more character and style than modern stuff.

I have found your new channel! I saw you recently at X-Rally in MK - I was there with G416 SAA loaned by a chap you and I both know... wish I owned it but sadly no room or spare cash. Gonna settle down with a cuppa and make my way through your uploads now to assist with that income a little! ;) That and thanks to driving that BX recently, I'm now having serious hankerings for yet another car to put in my weird collection...

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Hello mate!

I love the mk1 dashboard. When i used to give mates lifts they used to find the indicator rocker odd

Nice, honest vid. Always have wanted to drive a BX. I've owned 2 DSs & an SM. I rarely gave thot to the downsides, because the upsides were so good.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

One day I'll drive the SM and do the same

Great Cars Citroen BX’s Hatchback Cars I wanna own all of them in Petrol & Diesel Turbo Diesel

It's Vehicle Excise Duty - they stopped calling it the Road Fund Licence because that implied they would actually spend it on roads. BTW I've heard the suspension's quite good on BXs.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I may have mentioned the suspension, yeah...

My 14RE is my daily driver to save getting the Dyane and CX22TRS covered in salt and I think it feels really modern ! People love a chat and I am never ever envious of any modern car . I've had 3 Xantias which are great cars but for some weird reason enjoy the BX more ( and one was a V6). Nowt as strange as us Citroen enthusiasts.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

The BX is much more fun to drive than the Xantia. Probably not as good a car, but much more rewarding.

Thanks for the ride in the BX,the camera tells the story of the road conditions and the Cit just loves roads like that,my C5 and D Safari are exactly like that,it’s a great experience,did I mention the suspension.?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you did. I know I didn't..

Used to drive be my dads one when I was learning at 17. Having only driven minis before it seemed like a spaceship with its soft suspension and crazy dash. Never got on with the rocker switch indicator though.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually less user friendly than the stalks in the mk2, but I can't normally admit that out loud...

@austendorey2533

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I’m sure it didn’t cancel either. It was a base model blue one. Did they do a 1.4? Was a true poverty spec 83 model

@pnyholm

2 жыл бұрын

@@austendorey2533 Citroën wanted you to be involved in your driving, hence you should be able to turn of the indicators yourself. There are times when in long junctions when I miss it.

Stream of consciousness commentary.... gonzo journalism and philosophy direct to your phone from the driving seat! More of this please - can you do the same in the Imp?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Toby! This type of vid comes very easily to me (i.e. I don't have to 'try' at all), so yeah, I reckon I'll do this for all cars. Bit like a Poundland RCR, only in the UK and with a guy who doesn't have a cool voice! Might not be able to hear me in the Imp, of course. In fact, I actually decided last night that if I was to branch out into car reviews (not full-time, just occasional) they'd be like this. Maybe a bit of outside footage to splice in, but otherwise it'd just be very much like this was.

Today also made my last ride with my Ford Transit from 1982 for this year, discount on the road tax if it is not on the road for 3 months (December, January and February here in the Netherlands). In 2022 he will be tax free (September) and then he can always hit the road.

The 2CV has the same lighting arrangement with the switchable side lights and dipped beam. Ian has done an explanation in one of his videos on Elly.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

SM does too...

I WANT another BX

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

WANT and NEED are mutually exclusive

Just caught up with this. Are they new forest roads ?? If so they're a great test for a car. My bmw was hopeless yesterday on them... Bloody run flat tyres !! The Citroen was great!

Love the videos! Keep them coming 😁 one question I have for a BX expert such as yourself.. what Diesel engine BX would return the best MPG? I’m currently in the market for one but after the most economical model.. thanks!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think economy is a bit of a grey area. The TD would likely be better if you use motorways a lot as it's longer-geared, and it needs less pedal to keep it up to speed, whereas around town the n/a diesel 1.9 is better in my experience. Real world all BX diesels are about 40-45mpg. Some people hyper-mile them and reckon they touch on the 50-60mpg region, and while I'm sure some have done, I'm also sure many have not! The 1.9TD in a Xantia, for example, is much thirstier.

@Jakko568

2 жыл бұрын

Buddy of mine has the 1.9 RD diesel and his MPG calculations thus far have been between 40-46 in-town and nearly 57 on a longer trip recently if that helps and although it's done a couple longer trips, it's predominantly used in town so it's doing pretty good! Hope that helps.

Drives beautifully..I wish my Astra had that suspension and visibility...perhaps one reason we have gone backwards is that speed bumps would be ineffectual if we all had a BX?😀😀😀😀

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

They don't offer much resistance to a BX, no!

Please correct me if, I'm wrong. But the BX suspension increased braking force with more weight in it?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, on the rear end. The brakes are dual circuit, and while they're all powered by the same source, the front gets a direct supply for pressure, whereas the rear takes it from the rear suspension, meaning it's entirely load sensing.

Love the seat covers, knit them yourself?

@UPnDOWN

Жыл бұрын

I think they're plastic-velour from the far east, to be honest!

my bx has 190k km and still has the plastic beneath the rear carpet, but the steering wheel is pretty much decomposing :( xD

That wasn't a dead end, it goes back through to where you followed the lorry 😉

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Really? It turned into a green lane!

@EdsPlasticCars

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Would have been an ideal suspension demo

Car was head it Time that suspension

Daily driving my mk1 crx atm.. life to short to be storing away cars.. get out and drive them all

@UPnDOWN

Жыл бұрын

I love a CRX!

Technically you could take the kids in the car: If your vehicle doesn’t have seat belts If your vehicle doesn’t have seat belts, for example it’s a classic car, you aren’t allowed to carry any children under 3 years old in it. Children over 3 are only allowed to sit in the back seats. These rules only apply if your vehicle was originally made without seat belts.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I don't want to carry them around while unstrapped in the back. If we had a crash they'd go through the windscreen, and those windscreens are hard to find.

Brilliant!! But why am I sea sick?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Because my head's not damped properly

@rolandlivings2370

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN that's very funny. Bought my cx estate in Balham (Gateway to the South. Peter Sellers) drove home to Potters Bar Felt like royalty whilst driving through the west end. Opened up on the A1 it was the ride which was amazing. Felt like I was a pilot. 1980s were like that. Your channel is so refreshing.

Thirty-eight minutes of footage and heaps of detailed facts about pretty much all the interesting aspects of the BX, but unfortunately virtually no relevant explanation of how the suspension performs, I'd call that a bit of a missed opportunity :)

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost like I've done it that way for a reason 😉

Where near hythe are you I live in totton would love to pop down with my son he's never experienced a bx I have my old man had many bx and cx

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not actually in Hythe at all! Got a mate there, though.

That steering wheel looks like it's floating in mid air

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

It does. I love the wheel in these!

The ride is quite good, but not as good as a Six cylinder Wedge princess 👍

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I've never tried a 6-cyl Princess, so couldn't comment

@johnearle8095

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the citroen DS GS and CX beat the Princess for ride quality easily.

Started to watch thinking: I've only got time for a bit. Ended up watching till the end. Love your style and sense of humour! The love hate relationship with modern cars is very recognizable. Yes, they do a lot of things better and with less dus than old cars when they were new. But why do they have to do it in such a boring way, full of hideous design choices?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, very kind mate! Thanks

@AutumnWind92

2 жыл бұрын

And everything is damn SUV ... No fun looking cars.

You don’t know how good rear visibility is on very other car until you’ve driven a Honda CR-Z.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I love the Honda CR-Z! Would love to have a go in one, one day.

@davidorama6690

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN It’s a great little car, with the emphasis on little. It steers and handles like a go kart (low centre of gravity and an almost short and square footprint) but calling it underpowered is an understatement - every CR-Z on the road desperately needs the optional factory supercharger.

@truthseeker8483

2 жыл бұрын

A Honda Jazz is pretty good too

Rant away about modern cars and their appalling all-round visibility. It drives me mad. Combined with the coal hole interior colour schemes, it makes them so gloomy. Love the car and the video drive.

8:34 is that Hubnut's Foxanne?!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, it's FoxUgg! (Will be revealed soon)

@torresalex

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN The resemblance is uncanny!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

@@torresalex Well, that'd be because it's a Reliant Fox I suppose! haha!

@torresalex

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN The colour, the lack of a bonnet, the rear cover looking like "Hubnut" was hastily scraped off... had me fooled

You didn’t mention the suspension…

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Damnit, didn't I?

I f I find a BX in Denmark it is either very cheap and junk or more that 12 k £ (cars are around double price here compared to UK because our taxes) and renovated

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Norway is similar with tax, I think?

Can you fix the gauges?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just haven't tried. Fuel gauge is the sender again, and the rev counter - I think - is a dodgy connection

@kd23se4

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I found on the internet it is made by Veglia. As Clarkson said, when the french and italians cook it´s a wonderfull thing, when they join to make cars.....run.

@macanngantuk1439

7 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN forget the rev counter. Got 3 speedos all dead rev

I had a mate who bought a brand new B reg Maestro City ( not even the City X it was proper poverty spec ) and when he went to pick it up the dealer said - "sorry you owe us another £55 for the rear seat belts that have been fitted " - " I didn't order them I am not paying for them " he said - the dealer response " right - take a seat over there we will get it in the workshop and take them out" Can you Imagine that today? Can you imagine the press reaction? " BL Dealers happy for YOUR children to die "

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Daily Mail would have a field day!

@darrenwilson8042

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN As Diana wasn't wearing her rear seatbelt in that crash the Mail wouldn't touch it as it would call question on the judgement of one of their go to distraction stories - It would have to be used by the Grauniad

I hate the ride on modern cars. I'm a migraine sufferer, too, and harsh bumpy cars set them off. Even my S211 estate with "comfort" suspension doesn't hold a candle to the Mk1 C5 Estate it replaced. Maybe I should buy a CX...

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

You should definitely buy a CX

My Junior school teacher had an 1983 BX brand new not this spec model

38 mins long and not a single mention of suspension, brakes, variable ride height or his bloody SM !!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Is it a record?

@smhorse

2 жыл бұрын

There's hope yet!