Check out the C-body Video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHmFqNqappe7fNo.html

Even though they aren’t as popular as other models I really like the 1970 C body models 👍🇺🇸

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Same here although I prefer the 71 Fury grille.

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

I don't care how funky it is. It's badass

I consider myself quite well-versed regarding Mopar lore, but the S23 completely escaped me. Thank you for the thorough history lesson!

@ultimatemusclecar

8 ай бұрын

It’s not a car talked about much. Thank you!

Back when gas was 2 bits a gallon..... Mopar was king!😊

I bought the fury from my grade out for $800 in 1996. She bought it from theCHP in 76. It had the police interceptor 440 Stiff as hell suspension, and a sway bar bigger than my arm. I remember running up and down the roads in Alabama as a teenager in that giant powerful car. It was powerful it scared the hell out of me a couple times in road racing against Camaros and Mustangs that my classmates owned in the 1990s. It was yellow.. and look, just like the one in the video except four-door. I had it in the Grand Prix from 74. I went off to college and my mother sold. Both of them broke my heart.

@ultimatemusclecar

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing the story!

I bought my first car in 1975 age 19. It was a 1970 Fury 3 standard. 318 auto bench seat, fold down center arm rest. Nice soft ride, no street rod but nice cruiser. Red with black vinyl interior, black vinyl roof. Who would have thought that in 20 yrs it would have been a head turner in a street parade.

@ultimatemusclecar

3 ай бұрын

3-speed manual on the column?

Boy that Black Vinyl was murder in the summer sun! I had a 1970 Dodge Coronet 500 that had a black interior. I used to deliver Pizza with, I had to leave the windows open and the seats covered with blankets during the summer or it was 2nd degree burns getting in.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Definitely. I have had the same experiences.

@davidkeeton6716

4 ай бұрын

Remember those Grant wood 3 spoke steering wheels. My brother had one in his black interior 64 Barracuda, that chrome metal wheel between the wood would leave a brand mark on your hand in the summer. Sometimes it would be 160° inside that car. We always kept a thermometer stuck in the vents or defroster vent in the cuda.

These cars are so beautiful!

@ultimatemusclecar

7 ай бұрын

Definitely!

MY MOTHER HAD ONE AND I WAS WITH HER WHEN SHE BOUGHT IT AT THE DEALER I WAS A KID IN HIGH SCHOOL. I SAID MOM GET A ROAD RUNNER. SHE SAID IT IS TOO LOUD. SO WE GOT A FURY. IT'S STILL A GREAT FAST CAR. I REALLY LOVE THE BACK SEAT HAS ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYONE.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Back in ‘73 I tried to convince my Dad to buy the ‘Cuda instead of the Satellite. I sat in the ‘Cuda for as long as we were in the Plymouth dealership.

I had the 4 door more powerful version of this. 1970 Plymouth Fury 1 440 police pursuit, black with blue interior. This car actually handled pretty well with the addition of a rear sway bar. Over 140mph any time you were brave enough, considering the tire technology at the time.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Nice optioned car! Thanks for sharing.

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

What a great time .mopar is a great this car is amazing.

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

😮

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

It's a boat and pure Mopar 😊

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

You had to spring for the real tires, BFG Pursuit Radials. You couldn't buy them unless you knew a BFG dealer. I had them on my 1971 440 PK Fury. I bought it for $600 in the spring of 1975 in Columbus Ohio. It was gray with a brown interior and no carpet. A/C but no radio or power steering. A trip to a salvage yard in Washington Court House netted a radio, door and window handles for the rear doors, and an extremely rare item, an oil pressure gauge that went where the clock went on the dashboard. A U-code, it had a weird camshaft, as it was a dog until you hit 55 mph and then it was game on! A trip to National Trails Raceway netted a 15.99@99 mph time slip. It got good highway mileage on premium gas, usually around 17 mpg at the 55 mph speed limit. A street race with a 1971 Road Runner saw the RR jump out to a car length lead off the line, but when the Fury got on the cam I flew past the RR.

That Trunk Could Hold Five Body's 😊

@ultimatemusclecar

8 ай бұрын

:) Maybe six

This is so rare! Wish I had one. I was 12 then.

@ultimatemusclecar

8 ай бұрын

I wish I had one too.

Great report. Love all Furies!

@ultimatemusclecar

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Love this channel

@ultimatemusclecar

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

The 440 HP was called the 'Super Commando' (U code), and the 383 HP (N code) was called just 'Commando'. The 2bbl 383 wasn't called anything. The S/23 was an interesting package car that was put together offering a bunch of existing options available in the Sport Fury model. You could order the 383 HP, brakes, suspension within just the Sport Fury. It was mostly just an 'appearance' package since you could get the 2 base engines with it, the 318 and the 'L' code 383 2bbl. The 'S' price class represented 'Special' and was used mostly for 'sport' or 'package' cars like this. I used to have a '70 Fury convertible that had the 2bbl 383 which seemed like most had, either that or the 318. I did look at some factory sales literature and later they did call both the 383 Hp and 440 HP 'Super Commando' which is weird. It seems like it was marketing because the earlier air cleaner plates for the 383 HP were just Commando. Maybe it changed in 1970.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

I recall it slightly differently, the 1971 Fury listed the 440-6, the 440-375, and the 440-350. I wonder if they made any C bodies with the 440-6.

@vincemajestyk9497

9 ай бұрын

@@spaceflight1019 I know the V code 6bbl was only in the GT (optional) and the U code 4bbl HP was the STD GT engine, but could get the E86 on other Fury models not publicly offered, but I've ALSO seen the T code non-HP 440 in Sport Fury's and other models. The E85 T code engine was an extra cost option on the Fury I, II, III, and the SF. The only 'officially' produced C bodies with the 6bbl was the SF GT. All f this info is from my 1971 Plymouth salesman's book. I have seen a handful of 6bbl GT's. In the late '70's-'early 80's I helped a buddy that used to buy and sell ex-cop cars. He told me he got a bunch of NY state police 1971 Fury's that had 440 6bbl engines in them. He never did say whether they came that way or the police garage converted them. I would think the latter. Told me quite a few stories about those cars. Sold one to a local dentist in town.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

@@vincemajestyk9497 Thank you so much for saving that information and sharing it with us. Ever since I saw the 440-6 option in the 1971 Fury owners manual in 1975 I wondered if they actually built it. Now I know. The lone remaining mystery is what the "Special Six" and "Special V8" was. Something tells me that it has to do with the "PN", or New York Taxi cars.

@vincemajestyk9497

9 ай бұрын

@@spaceflight1019 You're welcome! I believe those 'Special Engines" were engines like 'Industrial' or 'Marine' uses which had different compressions and durability hardware. I have some copies of old IBM production number printouts and they show only 61 shipped PH23V0 (1970) 6bbl Sport Fury GT's and 3 for Canada. For 1971 they only show 375 TOTAL PP23 Sport Fury GT's but no engine breakdown. 6bbl orders would have to be small if any. I did see about 6 or so 1970 Fury GT 6bbl's at car shows over 30-35 years. A funny story my friend told me about the NY State Fury 1 6bbl cop cars was that when he was bring two he bought home, he would always 'tow-bar' one with another (with a guy in the towed car). He stopped at a traffic light and some kids/onlookers were watching and (he had radios), when the light turned green they both floorboarded them at the same time and both of them went smokin' the rear tires through the light. He said it was funny watching the look on their faces.

@BrandonLeeBrown

8 ай бұрын

@@spaceflight1019 When I was in high school, the local sheriff had a 440-6 barrel two door Fury, because he had his personal choice of cars and that is what he chose. It had the passenger door dented and he never got it repaired. It was in sheriff's department colors, but was unmarked. The 1970 B-body listed a 300 hp 383 with automatic and a 335 hp 383 with manual transmission, but I'm not sure the 335 hp version made production in 1970, as the compression ratio was lower than 1969 and 1971 had even lower compression ratio than 1970. There were police packages with standard 4 barrel 400's in 72 and 73, but in 1974, a high performance 400 police engine came out, with the 440 6 quart oil pan, that continued through 1978. All 4 barrel 400's in 72 had forged steel crankshafts. In 73, only manual trans 400's had steel cranks and in 74, all 400's got cast iron cranks. The sheriff's 440-6 barrel Fury was the only one I've seen in person.

Thank you!

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great stuff thank you,,go mopar

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Crazy…I’m a car nut..In the early 80s my dad had what I remember to be a blue one of these..and as a 7-8 year old I loved watchin the headlamps go up..and that a stripe lit up along the side at night!

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

That’s great. Too bad you don’t have any pictures of the car.

@chevyvanngoghandfriends

9 ай бұрын

@@ultimatemusclecar wasnt like that in our day…lol..I also remember he said it would pass anything but a gas station

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

I know. We never took pictures of our cars or my friends. No cell phones then so photos were more complicated but life was simpler.

Great vid!!!!

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Hi Throttle Power! Thank you.

@THROTTLEPOWER

9 ай бұрын

@@ultimatemusclecar 👍👍

You mean to tell me that the 440 was never available with a manual transmission?! Other than that fact, a great and informative video!!

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the nice comment! The 440 wasn't mentioned in the video because it wasn't available on the S23. The manual transmission came with the 318 and 383 2 barrel but the automatic was optional. The 383 4 barrel only came with the automatic.

I heard of that option but never saw one. I worked where the car was built in Belvidere, IL, so it might have my fingerprints inside the door where I adjusted the windows. The stripes were put on only after the car was complete and ready to ship. That way if anything had to be changed or if a dent had occurred and needed to be repaired, the striping would not be affected. I'm surprised the 440 engine was not an option. But I have great respect for the 383, it is a strong engine.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience at the plant!

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

Did they ever build a C body with the 440-6?

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

1970 Plymouth Sport Fury GT, no other C-bodies.

Much knowledge , very nice to see! Looking for information on the Kelsey Hayes W23 reacall wheels. Hope you can do a special on these and the A, B and C-bodies they were used on. I have six of the reproduction 15x7 by Specialty wheels. I'm looking for the Chrysler part number for the concave trim rings 15 inch that are for the w23 recall wheels. I think the C-body used a similar ring on some of those models. Any help for a cross reference would be greatly appreciated. Mad respect. jude

That's some cool cars back then I owned 66' New Yorker 383 2bbl many years ago

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Nice car!

I wish the images stayed still long enough to appreciate them.

That's a new one on me. Thanks

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for putting this video up. I wonder how many 440-6 Furies were made. Galen Govier doesn't have information on C bodies.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

The only C body produced with the 440 6bbl was the 1970 Sport Fury GT. Depending on the source, only 61-64 of them were produced. Thank you for commenting.

Please do an episode on the 65 Dart GT 273 with the Charger engine option.I acquired one recently and realize they are pretty rare.Mine has the cable shifted console.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Nice car.

Sweet ride I had a 70 Plymouth Sport Fury GT 440 High-performance Wedge. Sadly I lived in MI and the salt ate it. Would love to find one but now they cost allot. Think I paid 3k for it back in the 80's now more like 30k or more. Never new they had a S23 option thanks...

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Nice car!

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I love this car! 😊so cool and long

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

It’s difficult for a non fin, long car to look cool but the Sport Fury pulls it off.

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

@@ultimatemusclecar yes it does! 💯

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

@@ultimatemusclecar being a Mopar fan doesn't hurt. Mopar or No car

@williamharris5957

9 ай бұрын

I don't know how to send a picture on this .I'll try to figure it out and send a pick of my hellcat.

These are really cool cars. Being in Australia, I find it unfortunate that Chrysler(as we know it) is no longer an American owned company, being bought by Stellantis. It would be interesting to know how you American Mopar guys feel about it.

@bigblockjalopy

9 ай бұрын

I'm a German Mopar guy for over 40 years and I couldn't care less. Chrysler died a long, long time ago. I remember how they treated the Mopar (Muscle Car) crowd in the 80s, when they deliberately destroyed the old tooling, dies and old stock, etc for these cars, calling it "unwanted business". Chrysler died in the late 70s, when they build the ugliest and worst cars in automobile History.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

​@@bigblockjalopyA joke about it... How do you pronounce "Daimler -Chrysler"? Daimler... the Chrysler is silent.

@cuda426hemi

8 ай бұрын

Before Stellantis it was Daimler owned so no big deal. They lost their soul when Lee Iaccoco a Ford guy rescued them in the 80s when owned by Cerberus group. They would've been gone had it not been for the K car minivan and cars but that's when the soul left, Viper and Prowler notwithstanding. Even if Stellantis didn't buy them there still wouldn't be any new Dodge cars for sale for '24 probably through '26 because they slept on EVs, and now obviously Dodge and Chrysler will along with others in Stellantis go bankrupt and re-organize. Same with Ford and GM car divisions- they won't survive as their EVs are not selling. Idling factories as we speak. LOL 👀

I knew a guy in Connecticut who had the yellow paint and either the blue or black interior BBC and 440 motor that was his dads car. I don’t remember much more than that.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

in the VIN breakdown @ 6:14, what does 'O-superstock' mean?

@ultimatemusclecar

5 ай бұрын

Good catch. It's a carryover from the earlier Super Stock Hemi cars. The O-Superstock (2nd digit) shows up in the earlier manuals and it remained in the manuals after even though there wasn't a super stock those years. The '68 Hemi Barracudas and Darts vins started with BO (B- Barracuda O-Superstock) or LO (L-Dart O-Superstock). '67 Super Stock cars also had O for the 2nd digit.

Thanks for the video. I've heard of the S23, but never actually seen one. Only 689 built, wonder how many reasonably original examples still exist?

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

The exact number still existing is unknown. It makes them even more rare. Thanks for commenting.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

After I spotted a 1971 SF in the waiting lot of Graveyard Carz I sent an email asking if they worked on C bodies and what was going on with the SF. The SF is Mark Wormer's personal car and they only restore A, B, and E bodies.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Good to know, thank you.

C body are like Marlon Brando:cool but heavy

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Ha. Thank you!

That ribbed front drum came on my 68 and 69 C bodies. It greatly limits the choice of wheels because most won't fit flush with the mounting surface. The original wheels, the Road Wheels you showed, and E/B body Rally wheels are the best bets.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Have a great day!

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

The problem with the E/B body rally wheels is that they are 14 inches, not 15.

@auteurfiddler8706

9 ай бұрын

@@spaceflight1019 The 14 inch ones will fit a car with 11 inch drums. But not on a car with just under 12 inch disks. There were 15x7 rallys optional, and very rare, on 70-72 B bodies and 15x 6 1/2 optional, and very rare, on 75-77 B bodies. There are reproductions made now but they are poor quality usually. Some shops can cut out the center from a 14x 5 1/2 and put them on 15 inch bands of various widths and back spacing. I can't find anyone who does it now, however.

Why not a 440 available, or even the hemi? Seems a waste of a couple of badass engines.

@ultimatemusclecar

4 ай бұрын

I guess they wanted to reserve the 440 for the top of the Sport Fury line, the GT. The GT didn’t offer a Hemi either but it came standard with a 440 and offered the 440 Six Barrel as an option.

interesting the 318 has a single plane intake like other platforms i had a 69 it had a dual plane that explains the torque drop

Can't get my head around this Mopar thing, previously you have advised me Mopar is the brand name for genuine Chrysler parts and accessories from the 1930s to present, and yet you refer to an actual model as a Mopar. I have done some research maybe not enough, but I can't find one model built by Chrysler referred to as a Mopar?

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Mopar, like you said, started out and represents the brand name of the parts manufactured for the cars. Over the years, the word "Mopar" has become synonymous to Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge vehicles. Think of it like a nickname to refer to any product or car built by the company. There is no car model specifically named Mopar.

@timmebruer5205

9 ай бұрын

Mopar is French for "the wiring in this thing sucks"

I well remember the years of 3-speed manuals being the standard transmission. What I don't get was why it was column shift. Dumb.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Definitely, no power shifting there.

@johneckert1365

9 ай бұрын

I think column shift was standard because bench seats were also standard. I assume a floor shift would require bucket seats 🤷‍♂️

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

I learned to drive on a 1967 F100 with a column shift.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

​@@johneckert1365They made plenty of Road Runners with the floor shift and bench seat.

@johneckert1365

9 ай бұрын

@spaceflight1019 good point. These days You'd get in trouble for "bad touch" if there was someone sitting in the middle 🤣

Me too I had a 68 dodge polara my first car when I was 17 it was a land yacht with a 26 gallon gas tank in 1986 I bought a 69 charger out of auto trader magazine for 22 hundred bucks and it was a very nice straight body car that run well it was my daily driver to work & back for over ten years that same car today 40 grand easy

@ultimatemusclecar

3 ай бұрын

Nice. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻

So basically a S23 package was just a stripe kit.

Mikee likee big girl. 👀

@ultimatemusclecar

8 ай бұрын

Ha. Thank you!

No 440?

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

Hi John. Good question. The 440 was not available in the S23. The 383 4-BBL was the most powerful engine for this car.

...and any rear axle ratio lower than 3.42 in a car this size is ridiculous. Auto or standard.

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

I agree.

@spaceflight1019

9 ай бұрын

The most common is the 3.23 in the mountains, 2.73 on the flatlands.

I've smashed up soooooo many Chrysler C-body cars in demo derbies..........

@ultimatemusclecar

9 ай бұрын

A great car for the derbies!

Chryslers had horrible build quality

@garyromp3049

7 ай бұрын

But it's still Mopar or no car

I remember seeing these ugly ass cars when I was a kid. With that giant trunk that did nothing but waste metal. The 1970s were the low point in the human race. I was there and I lived it.

@danielslocum7169

9 ай бұрын

you being there was likely the worst part.

@janebook294

9 ай бұрын

D- unce DUNCE !

@user-mx9tu9xd1b

9 ай бұрын

You should of locked yourself in that truck

@bigblockjalopy

9 ай бұрын

The low point, was just you

@tomsilven

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂