1969 Chevrolet COPO Camaro drag racing 1972 Buick GS Stage 1 PURE STOCK DRAG RACE - no commentary
1972 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 drag racing 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO 427
1969 Chevrolet COPO Camaro 427 drag racing 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 drag racing 1972 Buick GS Stage 1
Our first car is a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO. The other a 1972 Buick GS. The COPO Camaro has a 427 v8. The Buick Gran Sport has a 455 V8. The COPO Camaro was rated 425 gross horsepower, the Buick 270 net horsepower. The 1969 COPO Camaro has a TH400 3-speed automatic transmission and 4.10 rear gears. The 1972 Buick GS Stage 1 has a TH400 3-speed automatic transmission and 3.42 rear gears. The Buick weighs nearly 4000 pounds including the driver. The 1969 Camaro weighs 3526 pounds with the driver. Only 1015 total COPO Camaros were produced in 1969. There were 627 automatic equipped Gran Sport 455 Stage 1 in 1972. Bonus rounds feature a 1970 Camaro Z28 with a 350 LT-1 V8 making 360 horsepower. The 1970 Z28 has 4.10 rear gears and weighs just over 3700 pounds including the driver. The Camaro Z28 is one of 8733 produced. The other bonus vehicle is a 1969 Pontiac GTO the Judge. It has a Ram Air IV 400 V8 rated 370 horsepower. The Judge GTO features a 4-speed manual transmission and 4.10 rear gears. The 1969 GTO Judge weighs 3642 pounds including its driver.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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The COPO was rare...and it was a beast! Only chance for a GS would be a '70 Stage 1 with some steeper gearing. All these rides are timeless classics..thanks for posting!
@josephnewcomb5670
3 жыл бұрын
Would been a better comparison with a 70 Buick 455 but not taking anything away from the 69 Copo Camaro 427
@parodynuts5407
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephnewcomb5670 “better” is irrelevant. not every drag race is decided by hundredths.
@josephnewcomb5670
3 жыл бұрын
@@parodynuts5407 more fair tho when both cars are more equally matched
@parodynuts5407
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephnewcomb5670 you sound like a child crying about fairness. Grow up.
@SweatyFatGuy
3 жыл бұрын
@@parodynuts5407 you sound like someone who doesn't own a muscle car. Its ok.
That Camaro is so beautiful. A work of art.
I think the one that really got me was the Ram Air IV GTO - man - good run! As always, thank you for these. 👍
@SweatyFatGuy
3 жыл бұрын
In 1985 I found the twin to that Judge in Nebraska for $1200. It was really rough, but all there. I was 16 and couldn't get the cash, dad said it would never be worth more than about $2500. Its ok though, I have other GTOs, Trans Ams, Formulas, and dad left me his 70 AAR Cuda when he passed last year. If I had gotten that Judge I would only own two vehicles, instead of needing to count them all to know how many now.
nice. That 117mph first pass is a low 11 with suspension and slicks.
The 69 Camaros is the best Camaro, period! They were options galore.
@norristammislideshowmulgre877
3 жыл бұрын
Restoring my 1969 Camaro putting a big block 454 in it.
I Have so much love for both cars!!!....Pontiac man myself
By 1972 this thing had the equivalent of a Briggs & Stratton engine in it compared to a1970
@rbarger71
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but still won't hang with that Camaro unfortunately.
@artbrookey3468
3 жыл бұрын
@@rbarger71 I wouldn't put money against a 1970 Stage 1, if we truly are talking "pure stock". IF, we are talking factory ordered, no other mods allows like the COPO was a factory car, did you know in 1970, you could order, from your local Buick dealer, a Stage 2 package, came in the trunk, installed by the dealer..car was capable of the 11's?
@artbrookey3468
3 жыл бұрын
@@rbarger71 Read the stats? 13.5 from tests, truly pure stock....Hemi 'Cuda was faster, 70 stage 1 was faster, Boss 429 was faster, 70 Chevelle LS6 was faster
Camaro was Almost 500 Lbs.Lighter & More H.p.Power to Wght.Ratio was Better.
@halweilbrenner9926
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be light 2 B fast
Man that gto sounded great....!!
@maximumcoverage5591
3 жыл бұрын
What GTO???
@paulallison6689
3 жыл бұрын
@@maximumcoverage5591 The burnt orange '69 Judge! (are ya blind or somethin'?!!)...it was at the 9:05 & on mark.
@maximumcoverage5591
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulallison6689 yeah my bad I didn't see that they had put other races on the end of that video. The guy who owns that COPO could flat out DRIVE. That wasn't the most even race. A 72 with 3.42 (?) Gears vs a 69 427 with 4.11(?). You would have to be a terrible driver to lose that one. If it was a stage 1 pack with 3.90 years and a 4spd. Then it would have been a race. Personally I think the 427s seem to be better on the track than the 454. Kinda like a He'll be a 440.
Did anything beat the COPO? A Hemi something or a ZL1 ? Still that was the fastest Judge I have yet seen.
@turboturd5289
3 жыл бұрын
ZL1 was a COPO car itself. A Hemi might if properly prepped. Max Wedge could also have a chance with correct tuning.
@davegeisler7802
2 жыл бұрын
@@turboturd5289 and throw in the L88 427 Vette ( very underated from the factory , true hp was between 540-560 ) beside that older cars that can hang with Copos would be the Ford 427 Cammer ( a real beast ) and the Ramcharger/Super Stock 413 & 426 ( with 13 to 1 C/R ) like you mentioned.
@davegeisler7802
2 жыл бұрын
@@turboturd5289 the Ramcharger / Super Stock 413 & 426 could run with anything 🏁
@davegeisler7802
Жыл бұрын
@Richard Kistner ive seen higher than that , try 540 hp @6,400 rpm . Richard check out that video of the L88 Vette just destroying that L72 SS396 Chevelle
BRING BACK the VOICE. No fun without him
@therealhonestabe7839
3 жыл бұрын
Move on you dumb moron it’s been over four months... get over it
@gregblack3860
3 жыл бұрын
Dumb moron? Boy your a real macho man to push your little buttons to call names . Are you 10 years old or a 56 IQ.
@chevyblue10
3 жыл бұрын
@@therealhonestabe7839 4 months or 4 years, his comment is still relevant. These videos aren't half as good w/out the narration. He should bring them back. Probably will too when the viewership drops enough. And Abe wasn't honest either. Probably the most corrupt President EVER.
@therealhonestabe7839
3 жыл бұрын
@@chevyblue10 laughable that you are so stupid you didn't even understand the point of my comment. And let me guess...you're also a QAnon believer?
@therealhonestabe7839
3 жыл бұрын
@@chevyblue10 And FYI, if you knew how to use the internet, you could easily look up the CZ analytics. He's getting more views now than he ever has before.
COPO rules always ☝🏻👌🏻
@johntempest267
3 жыл бұрын
....so long as a 421 Super Duty Catalina doesn't show up.
@davegeisler7802
2 жыл бұрын
@@johntempest267 you got that right 🏁💪
@davegeisler7802
2 жыл бұрын
No not always a 🏁 L88 Vette will give the Copo Camaro a very good race . The Vette has a nasty top end.
@markbuchanan3694
2 жыл бұрын
70 stage one will run with it all day long,that is until the driver gets bored and takes his GS out of second gear
The copo Camero has a different cam . If You look closely the vacuum advance is plugged .
COPO..... Come On... Peace Out.🎆🎆🎆🎆
so savory
8.5:1 compression takes even a ‘454’ , slightly less power than an earlier ‘396’.
I mean we can't even get a voice intro to the cars anymore. What happened to this channel?
The 350 Z28 was a much better match up with a low compression buick 455 GN
Esse camaro zl1 copo deve vale uma fortuna 💵💵 lindo camaro 😍♥️♥️♥️
Maybe a 70 buick grand sport would've been a better match up against the camaro !
Cool car!
I knew the Yanko Camaro will win.
I wish to see someday 1970 ls5 caprice how IT perform.
That breather hose off the passenger valve cover was disconnected.
Back when General Motors cars actually battle each other and did not have the same motor combo in it don't get me wrong I love my Chevrolet's but I love hearing how Pontiacs and Buick sounded completely different you can go to attract and hear the difference between a Chevy a Pontiac a Buick a Dodge and a Ford
Goodday C & Z, Looking forward to this big time. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
7:35 "I shit in my pants." Oh, and the COPO-GS race is silly. But... the GS still ran 14's with a smogger 8.x compression!
8:5:1 compression no wonder it got walked.if that motor was 10:1:0 compression it would had been a whole lot closer and Buick might had switch the pitch.
nothing will beat a 427 copa
I loved my Buick Skycock in high school
@mattdavis5994
3 жыл бұрын
Skycock lol
@turboturd5289
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattdavis5994 Still trying to figure out if that was a typo....or if he really meant it
I’m betting an original 72 GS would struggle to get into 14s but according to the rules allowing upgrades it could be mid-12s with compression/ gears and whatever they can adjust
@67valiant100
3 жыл бұрын
My factory stock 100k mile '72 Stage 1 th400 car (only change was the AC compressor disconnected & smog pump removed on radial tires) consistantly ran 14.3 @ 96-98mph all day long. That was in 2014.
The Buick ran a low 14 due to it being a 1972 model. A 1970 would have easily beat it.
Why the z28 have a RS steering wheel
Why no rubber boot around the breather I wonder?
@3:20 over 10:1. Need a fifth wheel on the back bumper to cut down ‘wheelies’!
How about comparing cars with similar power and weight
Did I miss something? What happened to the voiceovers? We miss ya man!
@xxprouxx
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it been like that for a while now. I miss it too. I watch the videos for the voice overs probably more than the races. So I've stopped watching them. Just watch enough of the video to see if his voice is back and if it's not then I don't watch them
Missed the jokes
@turboturd5289
3 жыл бұрын
There were no jokes. So technically you didn't miss them.
Shame on Buick for dropping hp/tq ratings in 71-72.
@mohh.4327
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, shame on them for being forced to comply with government regulations
@L72Chevelle427
3 жыл бұрын
Not only Buick...HP/TQ ratings were dropped by all auto companies starting in 1971, though Chrysler still published the 426 Hemi as having 425 gross HP in 1971. 1970 was the last good year for muscle cars.
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When are you bringing back the commentary and potty humor?
1969 ZL1 Camaro. Runs 10:7 on Small tires,, Back when the ZL1 was brand New with only Slicks it Ran 9:8 @1??mph. Crazy Fast Cars ..
take that same camaro, add Nitto drag radials ( like 17" or 18";) put race gas and its a 10 second car all day 😀
😎In jail no one can hear you commentate🤦♂️