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1960 Rolls Royce Phantom V Limousine w/ Body By James Young Start Up, Exhaust, and In Depth Tour
In this video I give a full in depth tour of the very rare and quite unique 1960 Rolls Royce Phantom Limousine James Young Series. I take viewers on a close look through the interior and exterior of this car while showing details, over viewing of features, and noting unique styling cues to the vehicle itself. I also show the engine and the details of it, start it up and see how it sounds under acceleration. A thorough tour/review of this car designed to give others a greater overall appreciation of the vehicle.
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Easily one of the most beautiful cars ive ever seen
@randomdachshund2452
3 жыл бұрын
Sir Stanley Royce the design is like if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
@nathanielcruz6675
Жыл бұрын
That Rolls-Royce is a masterpiece. 😍😍
When I saw the thumb nail my eyes literally just stared for a minute to embrace this car's beauty.
@soeookyaw4606
3 жыл бұрын
Same
Power windows on a 50-years old car... I'm simply stunned.
@rockolutheran
9 жыл бұрын
wasnt the stoneage... power windows on cars existed since the early 1940's
@RealZurkio
9 жыл бұрын
rockolutheran But the Mustang '69 doesn't have any Power Windows... So that's so suprising :D
@NGUlegend2
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and i see they were even faster back then
@skylancer-zer0205
9 жыл бұрын
My 2003 Corolla didn't even have power windows :(
@TheAventadorSV
9 жыл бұрын
Eric Stearns My old 93 Corolla didn't have power windows
I actually drove a similar one...James Young LWB S1. It gave me new respect for the chauffeurs who had to pilot them in city traffic. It was a real handful and no power steering. Being relatively narrow, it wallowed in even gentle turns. Mechanically, they were antiques the day were made. Even the transmission, which was one of the more up-to-date things about them, was an old GM version.
I love the sound the windows make
Such hyper critics in this section. I for one appreciate how this guy showed me around this car I am never exposed to normally. It was extremely interesting. Thanks saabkyle04.
To me, this body style epitomizes what RR is all about. Classic flowing lines which definately turns heads wherever this baby goes. In years past I used to see these floating around Beverly Hills and in the S. CA area. They were so well put together- and of such high grade materials, this is a lifetime car. In years past(don't know if it's still true) the hoods of these cars were sealed for the first 100,000 miles, where only a certified RR mechanic could touch the engine until that milestone.
I'm an old Roll's mechanic & that sucker is running on 7 cylinders.
@Lincolntowncoupe
6 жыл бұрын
Probably. British engineering wasn't exactly known at any point in history for being reliable. Had tons of character though.
@burnotto1663
6 жыл бұрын
I do not believe You or if so did You get fired? Factory trained?
@burnotto1663
6 жыл бұрын
Steve Prince Absolutely it is so open the oil filler cap with engine warm and it will smell/stink petrol it is lots of petrol fumes and oil need´s to be replaced if driven it will work on al cylinders No need to cal Your granny Your mother can show You to the oil plug Wen taking it away you must not be under hot black oil will com out ! I tink You can do this tool for it will be fund in the trunk good luck ! and do noting else ok you can ceck the tyre pressiur if You want do not forget the spare one
@dittokiddo3340
5 жыл бұрын
It's got an audible miss.
@packistancakes-7294
5 жыл бұрын
A hot clean showroom piece none the less.
Gotta love the look of classic Rolls-Royces. I love Rolls-Royces! They're awesome!
That's got more soul and grace than every modern RR or Bentley on that lot combined.
I love looking at older model cars. This is a beauty 😍😍
This is such a cool car! The side pockets in the doors are amazing! And those windows are faster then the ones in my '95 Honda!
@jhumurmukherjee4674
2 жыл бұрын
Also faster than my 2015 car
Love how the doors STILL close like a NEW Car. True beauty.
Que bueno contar con estos vídeos y tener la posibilidad de conocer estos maravillosos vehículos que incluso ahora nos sorprenden y nos llevan a pensar que hubo creadores genitales en el pasado automovilístico. Gracias por tu dedicación y pasión por estas bellezas mecánicas.
If I owned this car I would NEVER let another soul touch it. Kyle, how you convince people to let you review cars this valuable is beyond me.
that adel song sounded natural with the mood, sounded like something that actually could have been played during that time.
So much more beautiful than any of the crap RR is turning out today. You just can't beat old world craftsmanship.
@wholeNwon
4 жыл бұрын
Actually modern bodies are far superior in all respects except style.
power windows and an auto transmission in the 1960s? wow this was very ahead of its time!
@joshuas4228
7 жыл бұрын
Thomas Cole one hell of a luxury car am i right
@jonasbickford7417
7 жыл бұрын
pierusofpella ʏᴇs, ʙᴜᴛ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴡᴇʀᴇɴ'ᴛ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴ ᴀᴛ ᴛʜɪs ᴛɪᴍᴇ
@tacoma5543
7 жыл бұрын
Tom Cole With all due respect...are you serious?
@Spac8
7 жыл бұрын
Tacoma 55 He is serious, judging by the the look of his KZread, he's a Brit like me. Whilst auto transmissions, power steering, windows etc were all common place in the US by the 60's, our cars were a lot more basic! Even mid-luxury cars like Jaguars etc all has wind up windows until the early 70's, and right up until the mid 60's, heaters and a radio were actually dealer fitted cost options on most everyday cars. (My 1973 Mini didn't come with a radio from factory, and my Friends 1986 Ford Escort Popular had no cassette, player, cigarette lighter or a rear washer and wiper). My uncle worked for a local Triumph dealer, and had to fit heaters, radios and overdrives all the time. Power steering was a novelty, and most of the used cars my dad had when I was growing up in the 90's didn't have it. In fact, my neighbours 2001 Peugeot 106 doesn't have it, and that has hand crank windows and no central locking too! Same goes for auto's, only things I saw them on as a kid was BMW's and Jag's, they were considered slow, heavy and thirsty on fuel in smaller cars, and you only saw them on small cars if a person had a disability and couldn't use a clutch. My dad flat out refused to drive auto's until they became better over here in the 2000's he hated them that much. Even air con was a novelty until recently!
@Lincolntowncoupe
6 жыл бұрын
Actually in luxury car brands even as low as Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler (low in comparison to RR) even in some Chevy's and Ford's and cars of that stature, power windows were quite common even in the 60's. And automatic transmissions were extremely common in the 60's.
The engine sounds very rough especially on a Rolls Royce. I think it needs some work.
@mentallyhandicappedpoptart2649
7 жыл бұрын
Terri Bel Bliss Not running on all cylinders
@Mysummercoast
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But keep in mind the age of the Rolls plus he had the car door open are factors on that. Unsure of how many miles / kms the Rolls had done.
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
Probably needs new rings. Compression is probably off on all but one, and the ring is probably toast on one of them.
@burnotto1663
6 жыл бұрын
oil pressure sender unit is gone no thing els to do whit that engine
@burnotto1663
6 жыл бұрын
You are funny i like You
This is better than the new one
@brownguy2582
7 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Mohd what kinda shit are you smoking mate?
@Lincolntowncoupe
6 жыл бұрын
prettier maybe but not better
@calvin3448
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe cooler but not better.
@No-rj7mj
6 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Mohd I agree with you Ahmed mohd
@chief_philly8708
6 жыл бұрын
Bruh imagine if this one was topless
Gotta hand it to Kyle. More auto videos than a young dude should be able to do.☺ Keep them rolling.
Why don't they build cars like these now, besides limos? All these storage units, foldout picnic tables, front and rear separation, front and rear radio controls, extra foldout seats and etc are great features!
@gaelenski_
10 жыл бұрын
If by limos you mean most luxury vehicles, is because it's a premium, like this car was back then too. Nothing changed since this car was made and now, darling.
@ibrahimerturk7649
9 жыл бұрын
Limosines are useles today, Because they are too long. In urban areas parking and maneuvering are torture. So that limos replaced by wide and relatively long luxury sedans.
@softcollar
7 жыл бұрын
İbrahim Ertürk If you own a limousine, parking is the chauffeur's problem, not yours.
@Lincolntowncoupe
6 жыл бұрын
minus the front and rear separation you just described a Ford Aerostar
@amininshassi6370
2 жыл бұрын
I think this car is called a limousine because it has enormous rear seat room, perfect for being chauffeur driven. Most people think of the stretch limousines like the Lincoln Town Car for example. On the other hand, this vintage Rolls-Royce Phantom limousine is really equivalent to the current generation Rolls-Royce Phanjtom EWB (extended wheelbase), at least in size.
This might be the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen
Never heard a more satisfying sound than this cars door opening and closing
What a beautiful car.
When I think of a Rolls, This is a good representation of what I see
goes to show you how far automobiles have gone from that time. But wow, that car is something. Some of that stuff you don't even see on newer cars... Love it
It's strange they didn't have underhood insulation to quiet the engine! Awesome, beautifully styled cars, great job.
I don't think Rolls-Royce would refer to the rear doors as their "signature suicide doors." Rolls-Royce refers to them as Coach Doors.
@hyena131
3 жыл бұрын
@bearitone64 It's a yank reviewer - what did you expect?
I showed this video to my mom and she was like... DAMN!
This is when a Rolls-Royce was a ROLLS- ROYCE... wonderful old girl.... hope she went to a good home
Who care about performance in this queen? It is, and will always be, an marvelous artwork.
Great review as always. I have always loved the looks of these old Rolls Royce.
WOW!! I didn't know they had Phantoms in 1960! The inside looks something like my 2011 Rolls Royce Phantom drop head Coupe
What a classic car.. am stunned by some of the technology back then in this car.
Hey mate! you don't rev a badly out of tune, 55 year old engine. She's badly in need of a major service, no oil from gauge, possibly a hole or a bad join near the exhaust and lodging by the ammeter, the generator is on the way out as well. A lovely old lady indeed, but much in need of some love and attention.
@joshmori9023
8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!!!, never rev up the old of an engi ,PLUS!!! it's not really about power back then but all about LUXURY!!,
@NeighborhoodCarReviews
8 жыл бұрын
It's possible the factory oil pressure gauge doesn't work anymore. The bourdon tubes fail on those gauges so they don't show pressure unless the entire assembly is replaced.
@hellonewman1
8 жыл бұрын
I have found with my Silver Cloud, when a gauge goes (3 - aperture, clock and radio that the problem was electric circuit.
@sandyrush6317
7 жыл бұрын
Alan Steadman up
@btvbrndn
7 жыл бұрын
It's kept at a Rolls dealer I'm sure they keep the service up on it otherwise it wouldn't even run
Благодарю Вас за прекрасный обзор данной машины. P.S. Машина на века.
Thanks for the good look over this elegant , dignified car.
This car is so exquisite and the detailing is just superb.....
Very nice and high quality machinery. 44 year master mechanic here. My experienced ears were right again when I made the assumption the lifters were rattling badly in that engine and clicked pause 3 times before I could see the oil pressure gauge that was reflecting light and it showed NO OIL pressure at all. That engine either has no oil or the oil pump has failed and it also has a miss. BUT...this only needs to be fixed because the car is worth it! The 380 and 415 rolls Royce V8s are lifetime engines and it is the previous owner or other neglect that is not the fault of the car quality. In other words a PERSON caused the at hand problem
@Brookside975
8 жыл бұрын
+Earl Guyton A lot of their early V8's needed major, major rebuilds.
@EarlGuyton425
8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Meyer What do you mean by early? I am major believer in the 415 V8 myself being since I was a child we have three in our family and they are no trouble. But I do not believe any needed major major rebuilds as you state and that means you are a lame tongued person
@Brookside975
8 жыл бұрын
You are not worth responding too, sir. Good bye.
Not running on all cylinders.
@sarangkulkarni5751
8 жыл бұрын
yup, just want we thought. no oil pressure either!
@tacoma5543
7 жыл бұрын
suomenpresidentti He also failed to mention the amp gauge bouncing around and while showing how nice the interior is he forgot to mention or show the wear on the drivers door pull. Along with the engine sounding not quite up to par, to address these things and the privacy glass I'd bet this Rolls will need over well over $10,000 in repairs right off the bat. Nice car indeed but not to mention these things while talking it up would make me leary about what else is needed after all it is a 1960.
@71MercuryCoupe
7 жыл бұрын
Tacoma 55 you have to remember that hes not trying to sell the car, hes documenting a piece of automotive history and this was most likely the only classic rolls available at the time. He cant do anything about the issues.
@71MercuryCoupe
7 жыл бұрын
Sarang Kulkarni the car is well over 50 years old and the gauge probably doesnt work, but it is running on 7
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
Needs a new oil pump and most likely all 8 piston rings replaced. owning a classic car myself (though not a RR, I'm far from rich enough to buy one of these), I would probably replace the fuel pump as well.
Rolls Royce's engineers used to complain that the reason one could hear only the clock was "because it was so d*mned loud", and that they'd always intended to do something about it. I agree on the maintenance. That's not the sound I'd expected to come out of that car, in particular, regardless of its age.
51 years old and still better than a camry.
@L_back
10 ай бұрын
Ancient automobiles have that… personality
They don't make 'em like they used to.
@davidmizell940
6 жыл бұрын
Josh Bennett Thank goodness!
Just amazing cars. I would love to see RR make a limo with the old body and modern running gear & electronics. I think it would be a huge hit. Not that I could afford one.
@amininshassi6370
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%.
From the era of hand built with craftsmen , we will never see the likes of this again .
very nice video! good to see what a Rolls Royce from 1960 looks like
the radio gets the 60's music to?:))
Que carro maravilhoso!
@daviinaciogmailcom
2 жыл бұрын
Concordo
The interior is a lot like the modern day phantoms! Very elegant ! Thank you! Good job!
I really like that you posted a new Rolls Royce and now an older one.
Am I the only one who prefers this to the RR phantom 2012?
@villaverandwhite
10 жыл бұрын
No I agree with you this car looks great. the 2012 phantom is just plane ugly.
@peterbradshaw8018
10 жыл бұрын
LOL Rolls Royce lovers like me go gaga over these.
@TryxHardx
10 жыл бұрын
Peter Bradshaw Nice
@villaverandwhite
8 жыл бұрын
fuck off you insolent piece of shit
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
No.
Those windows go faster than my two week relationship
@wholeNwon
4 жыл бұрын
And don't require antibiotics.
That radio takes me back to the good ol' days.
Thank you, sir. Just what I needed!
One should never "rev" a Rolls Royce, kind ser, This is a gentleman's car.
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
Admit, it sounds nice. Doesn't sound like it's running on all 8, but still sounds nice for an out of tune engine.
Como eu queria ter um desses!
@daviinaciogmailcom
2 жыл бұрын
Sim
You do a very nice job showing off the features.
My god.. that's the most beautiful Rolls I've ever seen.
It always pains me to hear him rev the shit out of expensive cars right after he starts them up. Its about the worst possible thing to do to an engine.
@JackpodyDK
8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Shoe Looking at the temperature of most of the cars when he revs it, it's either full up to temperature or close to. Not disagreeing with it being very bad to rev a cold engine, however.
@jakechaplin9766
8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Shoe he preheats them before the videos
@JackpodyDK
8 жыл бұрын
Driving it out of a garage is not enough time for it to get up to operating temperature, so stop calling people idiots. However, it's clear that he let the engine idle until it was hot enough to rev it a bit. Jeeze you guys.
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
I let my old car run for a few minutes every morning before going to town. In the winter, I let it run on choke to help it warm up quicker, and rev the engine lightly once the idle stabilizes to disable the choke (electronic choke).
@jetstream454
6 жыл бұрын
If anyone watches closely, he usually cuts to the part where the car is warm enough.
You forgot to honk the horn!
@simonjames3990
4 жыл бұрын
You don't honk a rolls Royce horn you uneducated classless vermin
@mrceleb2006
4 жыл бұрын
@@simonjames3990 Oh yes you do!
I love that classic audio from the 60's :)
Ahhh yes...the Rolls Royce. Truly the Rolls Royce of all automobiles
Does he have to rev it as soon as he starts it up?
@TheNomorenoobs
8 жыл бұрын
you should never do that at all but i think he forgot or made a mistake
What's the story of this car? Where is the green royal crest from?
@mscott3918
4 жыл бұрын
I would guess Saudi Arabia.
I love how the ignition setup hasn't changed hardly at all besides the addition of push button start and a few more switches but it's still in a black circle with the chrome flag switches
That 1960 Rolls Royce Phantom Limousine James Young Series is gorgeous.
Power windows
"let's see how she sounds" - ill
Now this is a Rolls Royce.
The good old days of living the high life! This limo looks far more comfortable and has more status than those of today. I'm not bashing those of today.
The back looks similar to the Rolls Royce Sweptail
@Redstoneprime316
6 жыл бұрын
That's because the design of the Sweptail was inspired by the classic Rolls Royce models.
hey bro fuck what these lame ass people are saying. If they are such experts they would have youtube account with almost a million subscribers. keep up your videos they are informative and a nice snap shot of what cars looked like through out history.
That car is shining
3:28 that camera work, spiral movement
OMG...poor thing sounds like a thrashing machine! My 59 Cloud II engine is barely heard when idling! A beautiful car by James Young, just not properly kept up by the sound of the engine!
Imagine if this was in Forza 6.
@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491
8 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome! 😉👍🏻
@alexd3437
7 жыл бұрын
That Aussie Fur need it in Horizon 3
@user-qk9ty6rj2p
7 жыл бұрын
That Aussie Fur u
I must say this is a very WELL featured car for the 60s. Power windows seriously? I never knew they had such a thing in the 60s. Very well featured
that is the coolest car i have seen in a long time wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Engine is done...
Oh god! You don't say "hood" you supposed to say "bonnet", for this car is British after all! 🇬🇧☕️
@lakers8054
7 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@lsswappedcessna
7 жыл бұрын
Do you call a Spitfire's engine cover a bonnet as well?
@garethifan1034
6 жыл бұрын
Yes..Quite. It's a Rolls..so it has a bonnet.
@Mr.WellingtonVonDukeIII
5 жыл бұрын
British huh? Looks like this model is designed to drive on the right side of the road sooo hood!
@marajadeskywalker5992
5 жыл бұрын
Not all people are British dude
i always love the old versions of cars better than the new ones...2012 Rolls Royce cant hold a candle to the 1960 one's...even with modern tech...i love old school!
Beautiful piece of history right here.
The engine should be silent. Sounds like a miss.
@davegalvin4420
9 жыл бұрын
+Len Peters Wrong. This is a 1960, not a 2015 Phantom. They absolutely could be heard back then most often
@allencrider
8 жыл бұрын
+Len Peters I think it needs a valve job.
@vernwallen4246
5 жыл бұрын
There's a short between the steering wheel and driver's seat.Wahahahaha.😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds like 1 cyl. has low compression.
Probably one of the cars I've ever seen with Thick Whitewalls
Saw one of these in oegstgeest , netherlands this week beautiful car
Needs full restoration...
sounds like a chevy
@DutchVanHelsing
10 жыл бұрын
A Chevy firing on 2 cyls
@darkerstormer5696
7 жыл бұрын
Dutch Van Helsing that's weird because chevys don't run at all
@norberto4839
5 жыл бұрын
@@darkerstormer5696 oh god bro 😂😂 I'm dying
I had a business partner in Vienna (A) who allways sent me a Phantom V to the A/P for pick up. Made also trips to former Yugoslavjia and some Easter Europe Countries. Nice Car who even was drinking more tha we did. :-)
The ULTIMATE 60 car EVER
I find the way he raises his voice at the end every sentence is very annoying.
@garethifan1034
6 жыл бұрын
I agree..it's a typical american thing
Stop reving the engine, it's absolutely the wrong thing for older engines it's terrible for them.
@doron.dsilva
6 жыл бұрын
like telling and old man to run
That is unbelievably gorgeous!
I just moved his car in my damn garage in Decatur but it still showed up and I own this damn car lot that make sense
Can I have it?
u know how funny it wood be if someone ran up and stole it
@chance6296
7 жыл бұрын
lmao
please keep reviewing these kinds of cars
grandfather bought it at the age of 31, one year after it's release. Me and my father customized it. One of the features we customized are the seats, We took the cloth seat and took bought a two-seater car, we took the seats and fit them on where the cloth seats should be.
The crass-ness of this presentation made my toes curl. Given the chance I'm sure Rolls Royce would not want you anywhere near their cars. You haven't a clue what things are called, what they're made of and why they are as they are. You'd be more suited to presenting Ladas.
@LeonAllanDavis
8 жыл бұрын
+Nicole K Could not agree more. I could never imagine purchasing a a clapped-out Hyundai from this clueless knucklehead, much less a vintage Roller. The fact that he uses a shit camcorder with lots of wind noise tells me he's a hack salesman.
@packardcaribien
8 жыл бұрын
+Leon Davis Saabkyle isn't a salesman. He gives tours of all sorts of vehicles, new and classic, as provided for use to him by numerous dealerships. His videography is perhaps not the best, but it's not like he can take the car from the dealership for a few days to give finer shots, so he makes do with a camcorder. I hesitate to call him an amateur at what he does, but a cinematographer he is not, just a car guy that wants to share everything neat he sees. Now I don't think he perhaps know the ins and outs of this Rolls Royce (or as I like to call pre Silver Shadow RR's, this very nice 1939 Packard) but evidently neither does the dealership - mind you, a dedicated RR dealer - given that they are offering it at such a high price meanwhile it has no oil pressure, some faulty electronics, and what sounds like a misfire in one on the cylinders.
@LeonAllanDavis
8 жыл бұрын
Daniel McLean "...he gives tours of all sorts of vehicles..." To what purpose does he give "tours"? We agree he doesn't know "the ins and outs" of the Roller so the question remains: "why"? That being said, if you equate a Packard with a classic Rolls Royce, then it's easy to see why you would defend a clueless doof like this fellow. That part I get,
@packardcaribien
8 жыл бұрын
+Leon Davis If you have looked at the man's channel for even a moment, you'll have seen he has over 1000 videos similar to this one, depicting new, used, and classic cars. These cars come from countless different brands and dealerships. Now I don't doubt that the dealership allow Kyle reign of a piece of their inventory for an hour in the hopes it could spurr a sale. But that's not why he does it. Perhaps he does it because he enjoys seeing cars he might not otherwise ever see or be able to afford, and this is a means of sharing that joy. Perhaps he likes the relatively small ad revenue he presumably gets from having so many videos and nearly 1 million subscribers. But he is not the one making money when this car is sold. As for the comparison to a prewar Packard, that is me paraphrasing a favorite magazine review of mine from wherein several luxury sedans were compared, and in the magazine's opinion as well as in numerical methods of performance analysis, a late Silver Cloud was ranked behind not just a Grosser Mercedes, but a Cadillac Deville and a Lincoln Continental, roughly tying with an Imperial and beating a Jaguar. Now I don't expect you, with your supercilious and holier-than-thou attitude stereotypical to RR fans to accept such a ruling, but I do so love to bring up with your sort the zingers they included in the RR subsection, including "an example of what modern manufacturing could do for a 1939 Packard", " a paramount of automotive form over function", and "the most overrated car in the world".
@packardcaribien
8 жыл бұрын
+Leon Davis If you have looked at the man's channel for even a moment, you'll have seen he has over 1000 videos similar to this one, depicting new, used, and classic cars. These cars come from countless different brands and dealerships. Now I don't doubt that the dealership allow Kyle reign of a piece of their inventory for an hour in the hopes it could spurr a sale. But that's not why he does it. Perhaps he does it because he enjoys seeing cars he might not otherwise ever see or be able to afford, and this is a means of sharing that joy. Perhaps he likes the relatively small ad revenue he presumably gets from having so many videos and nearly 1 million subscribers. But he is not the one making money when this car is sold. As for the comparison to a prewar Packard, that is me paraphrasing a favorite magazine review of mine from wherein several luxury sedans were compared, and in the magazine's opinion as well as in numerical methods of performance analysis, a late Silver Cloud was ranked behind not just a Grosser Mercedes, but a Cadillac Deville and a Lincoln Continental, roughly tying with an Imperial and beating a Jaguar. Now I don't expect you, with your supercilious and holier-than-thou attitude stereotypical to RR fans to accept such a ruling, but I do so love to bring up with your sort the zingers they included in the RR subsection, including "an example of what modern manufacturing could do for a 1939 Packard", " a paramount of automotive form over function", and "the most overrated car in the world".