Jay, it's the Supremes, "Where did our love go.....

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

You got it man I thought for sure that one was gonna be harder =) lots of cool stuff coming before Christmas did you like that ending I like that ending it was funny =)

@29madmangaud29

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. oh funny? You did well, naming a bunch of different ways of about the same thing.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah lol =)

@jtnelson4579

8 ай бұрын

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My father worked at a Packard dealership when I was very young, (Mooers Motor Car Co. Richmond,VA.) I rode with him to deliver one of the very last Packards sold in central VA. I was only three years old, but I sensed from my father that it was an important event he wanted me to remember. Packards were wonderful cars. They seem ponderous today, but so do a lot of other cars from that era.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome that he took you with him and made you part of that experience thank you so much for sharing that memory with us. =)

This is the car that started my old car addiction way back in 1984. I was 8 years old and I spotted a big peppermint green car parked in someone’s yard. My dad told me it was a Packard. I was totally in awe of its design. The fins the chrome the whole package! I’ve been a vintage car guy ever since. Thanks for sharing this. 😊

@What.its.like.

10 ай бұрын

Awesome thank you so much for sharing those memories with us =)

The many design details on these cars, and many other 50's cars is just astounding!

@What.its.like.

8 ай бұрын

When cars were machines

@stephenholland5930

3 ай бұрын

​@@What.its.like. And not appliances 😉

The switch for the rear was the fan for the rear window defroster. The rear view mirror was an aftermarket one. The mirror was to square and to large for the sun visor to flip down. Beautiful cars. Shame you don’t see more at shows.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

It’s a totally shame you don’t see these more.. i’m looking for a Packard Caribbean to do

I interned at Ford Body Engineering in the summer of ‘68. I was a clerk in the detail and design unit of the door and quarter panel unit. The lead checker was John Bunn ( I think, I’m 75 now, I was 20 then). He was Chief Body Engineer at Packard. He talked about trying to make all non class A surface parts ( stuff you see) be made by break form tooling. They could not afford to make metal stamping that involved wood die models, huge hard steel stamping tools made on giant Kellering machines. My dad worked at Packard until about 1950. I have his 10 year anniversary watch that says “Ask The Man That Owns One”. I didn’t get a cup of soup from Ford after 10 years. Packard was a class act. The guys in the tool and die shop made me a set of mahogany blocks when I was born in ‘47. I don’t know what happen to the blocks. I had them until I moved out when I was 21. If I would have known. Hind site site is perfect. I still have the watch and a son and a grandson. My son found my dad’s Packard ID badge with his picture on it in a box of stuff I kept after my dad died. Detroit was truly the Motor City.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome story.. I would have loved to work for packard, that was cool they gave your dad a watch,they seemed like a company that cared =)

@glennso47

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. Speaking of Checkers perhaps you can video the Checker Marathon if you can find one. They were mostly taxi cabs but they were also available to buy as an ordinary car.

@glennso47

Жыл бұрын

Even Motown Records moved to LA years ago.

Many years ago, when I lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma, I went to Mac's auto museum. Mac guided the tour and I told him that Packard was one of my dream cars, if I was to ever get one the 56 were the last real ones. I can remember my father, who died just after my tenth birthday in 1974, looking at a Packard Caribbean that was for sale in the early 70's, but the owner was asking a high price for it. Later we would get a 63 Cadillac sedan, I don't know exact model. That was my dad's last car. My mother got a very good cash offer after my dad died and sold it. Now it is also one of my dream cars. Keep up the informative videos, I enjoy seeing the dashboards and view from inside, something you really can't see at auto show or museum display.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing all of that information I really appreciate it as well as the story the story was great.. =)

Hi from Sydney, Australia. my grandad bought a New 1956 Packard Patrician 4door to be my mum's wedding car when she was married in late January 1956. It was black with a duo tone interior of mid grey and cream. It was fully built in USA as a RHD car. He was an industrial engineer and highly suspicious of automatic transmissions. So, he ordered his as a 3-speed column shift manual with overdrive. As his grandson, I learned to drive in it in the early 1970's, that manual gearbox set up gave good gas mileage for such a big car. One of nanna's brothers owned an1956 Executive automatic and when we took the 2 near identical cars on holidays I remember Uncle Len having to stop & fill his with petrol more frequently as he said it only does 13 (miles) to the gallon, ours did 50% more than this easily getting over 20 to the gallon with overdrive and in the longer heavier car too!! From my dad's side of the family my youngest great uncle gave me his recently deceased wife's car. Aunty Charlottee's car was a 1958 Aussie GM Holden Special (like a shrunken1956 Buick), with just a 2.3 litre , 136 ci engine the way smaller Holden gave only 10% better gas milage and was half the weight and near a third the engine size. Sadly Pa's well-maintained & loved car met its demise in1979 when struck in the rear by a bus as the stupid bus driver did not notice the big right-hand light was flashing to turn, he did not buy another new car , he just used his prior car , his 1934 CW Imperial Airflow that he bought new, my uncle in his 80's now owns it so nearly 90 years on and it's still in the same family. I had a few close calls for the same reason in my old Holden in the early 70's & 80's as 1958 model cars were the last to legally have red rear turn signals, for 1959 onwards all rear turn signals by law needed to be amber. The Packard was beautiful car to drive with good brakes good suspension & great seating position and once I had a license, I drove it at every opportunity I could & I'm glad I did, as who knew then that I would only have 5 years to drive it. As a top spec Patrician, it had air conditioning great for Sydney's summer heat and in the 1960's over here in Australia very few cars had air conditioning. I really really missed it after the bus smashed into it and wrecked it. I wanted to have something similar, so in September 1982 I bought an almost nine-year-old 1974 Cadillac Fleetwood Talisman, in black paint & gold leather interior (mustard color) Now 40 years later, I still own the Talisman, it's a fantastic car, to me the VERY LAST Ultra Luxury, real American car. It's elderly first owner ordered it with all but 2 options deleting a door mirror thermometre and sunroof plus do not fit any exterior scripts (born in 1899 he thought manufacturers scripts all over the car was bad taste) the 83yr old only sold it due to having a stroke, all his right-side muscles were rendered useless. So mine is fitted with 2 most rare options Trackmaster (abs brakes & traction control combined in one system) and the ULTRA rare GM Air Cushion Restraint System, the early GM airbags. Best of all as an export spec CKD Kit car (completely knocked down) it has a full power 8.2 litre engine not a gutless detuned anti-pollution USA home market version. Having owned it for 10 years and having a near miss (incident not accident) one morning I thought , ??? if this was wrecked like Pa's Packard Patrician, what would I do , what could I buy & feel happy with, so I bought a "spare" 1972 Fleetwood Brougham in 1992 in white paint & with a "green-ice" interior (ultra pale green), also a GM-H Aust RHD CKD kit car (shipped as parts & built here at GMH Pagewood in Sydney) though not a 1974 Talisman it was the next best version & just one elderly owner. Sensational cars, beautifully made to last forever with just basic maintenance .

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Great story thank you so much for taking the time to share these memories with all of us =) that packard sounded epic I wonder how many of those got imported to Australia also wonder how many of those were right hand drive? =)

I grew up in Southern California, born just after the Korean War. We lived not far from Los Angeles and in my grandparents neighborhood there were any number of two story homes built in the Spanish style with arched windows and doors with a carriage entrance at the side of the home. One older couple owned a ‘56 Packard Clipper. It spent a lot of time in the driveway under the arched entrance to the covered parking at the carriage entrance. It was a deep blue and white two tone. It never ceased to amaze me to see the car backed in the driveway. It must have been a Herculean effort to get it parked. I would walk around the neighborhood and stop and look at the car with that classy home.

@What.its.like.

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing those memories with us =)

One of the prettiest mid 50s cars built. I might have to get me one of these someday!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree it has such presence

I love Packards. The taillights on this model became the go-to for the iconic custom cars of the late '50s and early'60s.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Love these tail lights =)

This is art....whether original or restored...

Nice post, Jay! The 56 Packard tail lamps became a favorite of customizers for several years after Packard went out of business. The set of secondary climate controls were for a heating/ventilation unit mounted beneath the front seat that blew warm or fresh air onto the rear seat passengers. That knob was labeled "rear fan." A friend's 55 Buick Roadmaster had that set up too.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Awesome thank you so much for sharing that insight =)

I would imagine if both Studebaker and Packard merged together with Hudson and Nash along with Kaiser and Jeep to create AMC in 1954.

@ahoorakia

Жыл бұрын

that's why AMC stand for All Makes Combined😂😂😂

@CJColvin

Жыл бұрын

@ahoorakia Yep you got it brother. Here at the AMC Divisions Kaiser-The cheap budget brand (to compete with Ford, Chevrolet, and Plymouth). Studebaker-The Mid-level/performance brand (to compete with Edsel, Pontiac, and Dodge). Nash-The Mid-level luxury brand (to compete with Mercury, Oldsmobile, and Desoto). Hudson-The Upscale Mid-level luxury brand (to compete with Lincoln, Buick, and Chrysler). Packard-The High-end expensive luxury brand (to compete with Continental, Cadillac, and Imperial). Jeep-The ultimate truck brand (to compete with GMC as well as the Mercury and Fargo trucks in Canada 🇨🇦).

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That would have been awesome =)

@CJColvin

Жыл бұрын

@What.its.like. I'm sure it would have and not only AMC would've been around to this day but all the brands that joined AMC would've been around to this day as well.

@LlyleHunter

Жыл бұрын

I’ve always felt the same way. A terrible miscalculation.

Very glad you gave it the camera test, and that it passed so decisively. Its suspension is also a complete winner, and should still be licensed to other manufacturers.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

=) glad you dig that aspect

The beautiful swan song of a great automobile manufacturer!!!

@What.its.like.

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree

There was a gent I knew who recently passed who absolutely loved Packards. He owned 3 of them. A local around here has a 56 Clipper. He told me a similar story to yours about the company. He was so concerned, he bought a crate 352 motor, and a spare transmission.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Awesome story, thank you so much for sharing that memory. This was a good design and it sold decent enough should have just ran with it for another year =)

@mrdanforth3744

7 ай бұрын

When Packard stopped making cars they had a large number of V8 engines on hand, they sold them off over the next year or 2. Many ended up as marine engines, bought up by a marine engine company that converted them. Have seen ads in car magazines from the late fifties, I think you could buy a brand new Packard 352 V8 for $300. NHRA gave away some of them as prizes to winning drag racers.

I came back to see a car in the background for a viewer. I can’t believe how far this channel has come and such a short amount of time everything has improved and I’m blown away by it so only reason I’m leaving this comment… especially the video quality

How could you miss the stunning set of Dagmars in the front!!!

Packard instrument panels were like fine jewelry 😊

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree =)

Ask the person who owns one. They used to have that as their advertisement.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Ask the man who owns one =)

@glennso47

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. I was trying to be politically correct. 🫣😬. Didn’t want KZread to censor you. 😏

I really think that these Packard’s were some of the most beautiful cars ever built. My personal favorite car is the 57’ Chevy Belair 4 door hardtop (black w/ red interior). But this is a close second, it’s so elegant, and a wonderfully engineered automobile! Shame they didn’t last longer! Thanks for continuing to upload these! You are fantastic and I hope you and your family have a happy holiday!

@gman3109

Жыл бұрын

Apostrophe abuse!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the positive vibes glad you dig this channel, lost of cool cars coming before this years end =)

@scootergeorge7089

Жыл бұрын

@@gman3109 Travis didn't use many apostrophes! What he is guilty of overuse of the exclamation mark.!!! And most car buffs would rate the '57 Belair 2 door hardtop over the 4 door.

@windsorcastle9973

Жыл бұрын

True true, my punctuation may of been slightly overkill. But I would have to agree and say the 2 doors are typically more sought after, but i’ve always had a love for the 4 doors after seeing Grace Braegers 57’ Chevy. It’s a classic!

You know, Packard would've made it if it merged with the right company. It's a shame when it was phased out in 1959 after only 2 years of declining sales. Same thing happened to DeSoto. Chrysler tried to hang on to DeSoto, but people didn't want to buy one.

@dennisdivine7448

Жыл бұрын

Garrett Smith: I always considered Packard and Desoto to be misplaced cousins. I honestly think Packard would've been a better fit with Chrysler than the ill-fated Studebaker acquisition. It would've been interesting if Packard had been able to possibly get some of the same treatment as Desoto and the Imperial and survive into the '60s.

Thank you for doing this car. A Packard was the first old car that I noticed as a youngster. In the mid to late sixties there was a four door parked in the woods near my house and I loved going to visit that car.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I’m a huge packard fan I just wish they would have survived the 50s Packards have such class, my favorite era of packard 1936-1942 all the body styles are good even the sedans look good

Outstanding video! My dad had.a 56 executive, yellow- white, with the cloth interior. The dash was the most amazing thing to me, it was the machined gold that was drop dead beautiful. The seats were more like big living room couches and I would often fall asleep in the car when dyar gazing. It was a much better ride than his Oldsmobile or Cadillac. It was a fast yet , dependable car that you serviced regularly,add premium gas and just drive it. No a/c in his car but it did have power everything. Wish I had it now!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Glad you dig this video =) I love this packard looking for the Caribbean to do

My dad had a 56 Clipper for a short time. As a kid I thought it was cool. It never replaced his 56 Vic hardtop that I never lost my love for.👍😎

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I have to find a 56 Victoria hard top to do, your dad preferred the Y block over Packard V8

Great video Jay. I just had a bunch of family movies transferred from 8mm to DVD. One of these was of the 1956 Sugar Cane Festival parade in New Iberia, Louisiana. My dad was on the parade committee, as was a close friend of his, who owned the local Studebaker-Packard dealership. All of the cars carrying dignitaries and festival princesses and queens are 1956 Packard convertibles. It could have been a commercial for Packard. What a cool time capsule. Merry Christmas Jay!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Awesome story thank you so much for sharing that memory with us =) this time of year is bittersweet just like this episode.. my dad pasted away dec 29 2016 and Christmas was the last memory (good memory I have of him) we were neighbors but everyone was getting the stomach flu and I didn’t want it might go more into that story reflect episode who knows christmas has always been bittersweet since this is 5th Christmas without him

@toddbonin6926

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. my dad passed away Christmas week, 2008. It’s always a bittersweet time for me too. God bless you my car buddy!

@nealsidor1323

Жыл бұрын

Todd, you should post that video...

@toddbonin6926

Жыл бұрын

@@nealsidor1323 I guess I could. Let me get some of my IT buddies to help me figure out how. Thanks

Packard's downfall was a "perfect storm" of events: some were internal (being among the last carmakers to update their models, and to offer a V8 engine); some were external (Ford and GM "stealing" dealerships, mergers going awry due to politics and untimely deaths). As you so accurately mentioned, Packard's last two model years weren't even Packards; just rebadged Studebakers. (I'm not a fan of the design of the "Packardbakers".) While it's lamentable that Packard ceased production, I believe that we can take some solace in that the last few years of the true Packards were beautiful, if not ahead of their time.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

The end of Packard was truly sad, it sucks they could’ve merged with anybody instead they merged with Studebakers essentially got a catfish because Studebaker cookbooks and was in 100% truthful with how much money they were actually making. If I had a time machine I would go back in time and convince Packard president to buy pierce arrow and peerless then you could have the three Ps under one roof give Rolls-Royce and Bentley run for the money.

I love this channel s attention to detail, it's satisfying,

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much it means a lot =)

The most interesting thing about these Packards was the Torsion-Level self-leveling rear suspension, which used electrically adjustable torsion springs to maintain the rear ride height instead of the usual (and often leaky) air shocks. I wish someone would revive that feature for modern cars. Also, Packard's automatic transmissions had lockup torque converters, something which didn't make it into most other brands until the early 1980s.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I’m really intrigued about the torsion bars.. I’ve heard nothing rides a packard from this era rises better than anything

@albertcarello619

Жыл бұрын

PC No:The Ultramatic Transmission is a 2 speed and in the right hand drive position the lockup torque converter would engage giving a false impression or feeling that it's going into a 3rd gear. The shift quadrant also gives the false impression of being a 3 speed Automatic having left and right hand drive positions in addition to the L low range.

@megatronusorionpax4900

Жыл бұрын

I think Chrysler was the only.other one to have a torsion bar suspension during this time, or at least the only for more affordable prices

@rogersmith7396

Жыл бұрын

Cadillac used a compressor with air shocks.

@Hammond645

6 ай бұрын

My first job out of HS was as a gopher in a one-man shop. One of his customers had a ‘56 Packard with the load-leveling suspension and was a stunning car. What was also stunning was the number of grease fittings that needed attention, between the front and rear suspension, it would take close to an hour for a lub job and with a manual grease gun, my right forearm bulked up until I looked like Popeye on one side and Olive Oyl on the other.

On of my favourite car of the 50’s ! Well done

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I really dig this design can’t wait to cover the Caribbean hopefully next year =)

Here's an interesting 1956 Clipper story. Because we all know a Rose by any other name.... Yeah it was a Clipper aka Packard. This would have been around 1962 or 63 and my older brother at the time had a 51 Ford he was driving from his wife's parents house to our house. Right behind him was his wife in her 56 clipper. A policeman pulled her over for speeding. When my older brother who was in front of her saw her being pulled over he also pulled over by the side of the road and walked back to see what the officer was doing. When he did that the officer promptly informed him that he was also speeding as well and since they were in a residential zone at the time he was going to cite both of them. He asked for each of them to present their licenses and registrations when he looked and saw that my brother and his wife had the same last name. He looked at them and said "what do we have here a whole family of speeders"? He then proceeded to ticket both of them. The only reason I remember this story is because I was an 11 or 12 year old boy at the time and was actually sitting in the backseat of that Clipper when this whole thing happened. I vividly remember that car. I always thought that it was a great big huge car that was absolutely beautiful. It just seemed way more powerful and modern than my brothers 51 Ford did. Although nowadays I would love to have either one of them. I think in reality the clipper might be worth more money just because it was a one-off year and maybe one of the last things that packard did before they bit the dust forever. Again Jay thanks for this video brought back some good memories made me smile.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

What a great story thank you so much for taking the time to share that =) what a great memory funny you should say 51 for that might be the next car that’s coming.. i’m going to try to make today at two for but I’m not making any promises.. if today is not a Toofer day tomorrow will be for sure =)

@carlmontney7916

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like.Jay, I also remember his wife blaming him because she was following him and she had to speed to keep up. LOL

I guess you didn't notice, but the car has been converted to automatic transmission. No clutch pedal and the electronic gear indicator might be a clue? The original automatic was a 2-speed Ultramatic, but it did have a lock-up torque converter. These could be driven like a 2-speed automatic or like a non-shifting Buick DynaFlow. The only other automatics with lock-up torque converters then was the Borg-Warner and Detroit Gear. Some converted their Packards to a modern Chrysler TorqueFlite. I'd bet that this car probably has a TorqueFlite. Packards were originally in the same class as Rolls-Royce but started moving downhill to the Cadillac class and in the end, a re-badged Studebaker. In 1956, Packards used basically the same bodies and only the features differed. The Packard Clipper line was the basic entry level Packard, which since Cadillac had dropped it's LaSalle line, Cadillac had no comparable model. Studebaker-Packard was responsible for making Mercedes-Benz a household name in the U.S. M-B wanted to expand in the U.S. and S-P was more than willing to take them on to expand it's own offerings. M-B also took advantage of an established dealership network. After the dust had settled, and there were no more Packards and Studebakers, many of the S-P dealers became stand-alone M-B dealerships.

I love your videos watching you describe the detailed artistic value of the body sculpturing, most presenters tend to overlook. May I humbly offer a small suggestion? When describing the purpose of the cars instruments, would you mind substituting "Water Temperature" with "Coolant Temperature"? A lot of older vehicles used antifreeze cut with water. Antifreeze raises the boiling point of the coolant temperature and provides lubrication to moving parts immersed in it. Again, I am just offering an alternative and nothing more. Keep up with your outstanding and honest presentations! They seem to be improving all the time!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

OK I will change that to coolant temperature, if I can I’m dyslexic so sometimes words are really hard for me I went to the Classic auto mall on Wednesday and I had a really bad day as in I could not get the words out to save my life no matter what I did until the last three hours I was there it was like my brain wasn’t firing on all cylinders and it really sucked and I got really depressed about it really because I’ve never had that happen before. Not to that point I have sometimes words are really hard for me and it sucks like I can talk to people and be OK but the moment that it’s for a public creation or something like that I have a really hard time it’s getting better I’ve never been diagnosed with dyslexia but I’m pretty sure I have it. Sorry that was a bit of a side tangent but yeah I will work on that I’m glad you think the channel =)

That Hornet parked beside the Packard looks like it has been customized with a reflective taillight running the full width of the car. Never seen one like it before.

@What.its.like.

26 күн бұрын

That’s because it’s not a Hudson hornet that’s a shoebox Ford. I’m not entirely sure what year it looks like a 49 or a 50… directly in front of the Packard, I had to go back and watch. I can’t believe how polished everything has become just from doing it over and over and over again…, the channel has definitely come along way. The quality definitely has improved. Everything has improved. Definitely going to do this car again as well as some of the features that that’s for sure.

@ernielaw

24 күн бұрын

@@What.its.like. No I didn't mistake that shoebox Ford for being a Hudson Hornet. I was referring to the blue AMC Hornet parked right beside the Packard. This generation of Hornet replaced the Rambler American in 1970. The Gremlin which was introduced mid-model year, was a chopped Hornet. I actually mistook this video for being a new one which is why I watched it. Glad to have seen it.

My dad worked at Packard till they closed down. Never got over it.

@What.its.like.

7 ай бұрын

I was never around for Packard in my lifetime and I’m still not over it lol

@pughoneycutt1986

7 ай бұрын

@What.its.like. little bit of trivia, in 1955 there were 2 Caribbeans that were hand built, 1 for Marilyn Monroe, and 1 for king fisal of Saudi Arabia. Marilyn's was white with red side trim and years later fisal sold his to a collector, which was a fatal mistake because his nephew shot him to death for selling it

It was ironic that Studebaker-Packard had introduced the Clipper as its own line to separate the less-expensive models from the "senior" Patrician, 400 and Caribbean, only to reintroduce the Executive as a gussied-up Clipper--yet another less-expensive model--and it's telling that the Executive, introduced in March 1956, made up nearly 10 percent of ALL Packard production before production stopped in June of 1956!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy thank you so much fir sharing that insight =)

Hey Jay, I think that it's sad that such a prestigious nameplate as Packard got duped by Studebaker!! The merger was ultimately the demise of one of the great automobiles of an era!!! I often wonder what would the auto industry would be like if Packard, Duesenberg, Studebaker & Nash had survived to modern times. This Packard you are showcasing is a stunning car!!! Thanks for sharing another exciting video!!! 🎄⛄🤶

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

It was super sad, packard should have done their homework.. glad you liked this episode =)

@bobpierce115

Жыл бұрын

Chris Kraft, if Packard, Duesenberg, Studebaker and Nash had survived into modern times, they would be the sterile SUV's, crossovers, 4-door sedans and possibly trucks everything else is now, just wearing those names. You wouldn't want that. The era of the great American automobile has been over for 50 years now, with only rare exceptions here and there. Sorry. I know you meant well.

@christopherkraft1327

Жыл бұрын

@@bobpierce115 True enough!! 🙄

Those headlights are very similar to the alien designs for the 50s version of "War of the Worlds".

wow, if you go way back to the '20's and '30's, what a Packard used to be...... and to see how they ended up? What a shame. Good example of POOR MANAGEMENT

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but management at Studebaker wasn’t any better.. it’s a shame both companies great companies just gone because I really bad decisions.

I always loved Packard cars. I don't know why they don't get restored as much as the other makes of the era.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@rogersmith7396

Жыл бұрын

No parts.

It's a shame that Packard went the way they did....well, that goes for many other manufacturers as well!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Stunning 😍

YOUR JOY AT DOING THE PROGRAM COMES THROUGH THE MIKE,SO I ENJOY ALL YOUR CONTENT.STEVE IN CLEARWATER!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much =)

Really surprised a high end car like this didn't have a rear center armrest. Was hoping you'd give us a look into the trunk.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I really really wanted to but I didn’t have access to the keys..

I'm buying one of these cars and saw this video. There were only 1030 2 doors made in 1956. They are rare, the engine is a 275 hp V-8, it's a high powered automobile.

@What.its.like.

Ай бұрын

Totally agree.. Packard V8 engine is super underrated.. and they wasted all that money only to use it for 2 years that was really sad.. Enjoy your packard these are really cool and worthy of the packard name

Very appealing 2 door hardtop, and one of the last Packard's. Would have continued into 57 as an entry level Packard, but with a completely new and separate body from the Clipper line which was a totally separate car line by 56 in the Lincoln-Mecury business model. I've seen this car on eBay. The one way wrong thing about it is those awful aftermarket wires, and 60's skinny whitetails. Cheapens the car. And, those rear antenna look off. Those pop up vents on the dash are the AC. Packard was the first carmaker to offer AC in the 30's. They sold everyone of these they could make, too bad it wasn't introduced with the regular lineup in 56.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

=)

@gcfifthgear

Жыл бұрын

At one point, Studebaker-Packard was considering buying the 1956-57 Lincoln body dies from Ford Motor Company to introduce a new Packard and a new Clipper, but financially they were already too far gone to afford it

@neildickson5394

Жыл бұрын

@@gcfifthgear "Too far gone"? I'm afraid the situation was much more involved. When the Insurance Companies refused to finance SPC's too ambitious body sharing plan, they was no B plan. Instead of bringing out 3 completely new lines, they should have focused on the all new Packard, and carried over the 56 Studebaker, and a Studebaker based Clipper. Much as what actually transpired. Many escape plans were considered, including buying Ford bodies for the Studebaker lineup, and Lincoln bodies for Packard. Had Ford not been pushing their Lincoln and Continental lineup so hard, the smartest thing they could have done would have been to buy Packard. Henry Ford II wanted to, but the Board overruled. We can imagine what would have followed for the great Packard name. I'm sure it would have reclaimed the title, the American Rolls Royce.

The Executive was more "Clipper" then the more expensive "Packard". The tail lamp is clearly "Clipper" so is the rear bumper and front hood. The more expensive "Packard" had an actual Round hole (not a notch) that the exhaust came out of. Also the rear lamp was massive on the "Packard" and they were called "Cathedral" and not swept in as we see here. The front hood had air scoops (not functional) too. The Trans selector was push button but most were changed to lever as the push button was troublesome. There were differences in the ride too. Torsion air ride on Packard as opposed to coil springs on Clipper. At 3:02 on the Whit/Blue/Black Packard Caribbean you can see the hole in bumper and the tail lamp is "squared up", there was a chrome molding down the center too that we can't see. Wish they showed a more clear shot of what I mean but you can see what I mean on other videos.😝

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Awesome information =)

Beautiful car and the dashboard is very nice.

@What.its.like.

11 ай бұрын

I really like this Packard it was probably the last nice Packard

Those Packard taillights were used in many custom car builds over the years.

@What.its.like.

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree they were really nice tight design

Thanks Jay, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Cheers

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas, to you and your family =)

This particular Packard Executive has an unusual hood ornament which is not original to the car. The real hood ornament was an outstretched eagle. This one, which is that of the comorant with its beak tucked in, was originally used for the 1954 Packard (Pacific) convertible. I also noticed that it had a Clipper design used on its steering wheel. That I believe is original because the Executive was in many respects little more than a suped-up Clipper. Too bad that more of them were not made as it is a very impressive looking automobile. Just four months after its introduction Packard production permanently came to a halt at its new Connor Street plant in Detroit.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing the hood ornament looked really out of place. Thank you so much for sharing all of that added information as well as insight I really appreciate it

And supposedly the Story going around Detroit in 1957, was that the bookkeepers didn't realize when they moved to the Studebaker plant and shut down the Detroit plant that a large Packard, if they could find some company to make their body's for them, but it wouldn't fit on the Studebaker antique assembly line and the merger between them with Studebaker with Nash- Hudson went down to drain when the CEO suddenly got sick and died and George Romney took over and had no interest in the merger with them

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing that information =)

Wow, that dash is awesome.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

The dash was awesome in this car =)

I started the channel (with subscribing) with the Lincoln Continental 1940. I hope there will be sometimes a great white Cadillac Eldorado Convertible 1971/72 or a Lincoln Continental Coupe from 1972. All the best for your channel in 2024🎉❤

@What.its.like.

5 ай бұрын

Awesome =) Thank you so much for sharing when you started watching this channel definitely hoping to do some more Cadillacs this year

"Rear Fan " switch for probably a Heater underneath Driver Seat that blew Heat to rear Passenger Area. I had this arranged on my 1955 Buick. Was easier to buy 50ft box of Heater Hose to run new hose to that rear Heater plus other Heater.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing that I totally forgot about the heaters underneath the seats =) I love this car would love to drive one, one day

Wow, what a wonderful car. I truly love 55 and 56 Packard's, both series. Seems they just got it going and then the merger, and then Packard was left holding the bag. I thought Packard bought Studebaker so why was Packard the one to meet it's demise. They had the V8 and wonderful styling as well as other attributes. It's a shame. Oh, and how about the dash in those Packard's, so elegant. I agree that after 1956 there were just Packard-baker's, no true Packard's. A couple of nice looking Studebaker's around 1956, like the President. It is also a shame Studebaker didn't make it either. Thanks Jay. It would seem to me that if Caribbean is spelled with two B's then it is Carib-bean. One B would be Caribean. Oh look, so I get a spelling error. Well I guess it's all a matter of how you want to say it. Either/or, what ever works for you. Anyway, a great car. Oh...and happy holidays to you and yours.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I’m not a fan of early 50s packards but I’m a fan of this =), happy holidays to you and your family

@stephenholland5930

Жыл бұрын

*Packards

@SVHome

7 ай бұрын

I have a 1956 Clipper Custom sedan which, as mentioned, was the ancestor of the gorgeous Packard Executive. The particular car shown has a ‘53-‘54 type hood ornament, aftermarket wire wheel covers, aftermarket outside mirrors and a factory A/C dash but no actual A/C installed.

Notice the tinted glass. Quite rare in 1956.

So my Grandfather was a Packard man. He owned many Packards over the years. Also he was president of the Buckeye Packard association. He owned a 56 Executive, which he purchased from the original owner in 1970. Also in his collection was a 53 Caribbean convertible. I miss going to the car shows with him😢. (Ask The Man Who Owns One)! Car Show trivia question.. what was the last car Henry Ford rode in.? Avarage awnser..hearse. Correct awnser: Packard , why? Lincoln didn't make a hearse, and Henry wouldn't be caught dead in a Cadillac!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome I really like that trivia at the end. Thank you so much for sharing your grandpa’s memory with us it sounds like he was a pretty stellar guy =) if he was anything like my grandpa my grandpa was my best friend and he died back in 2005 and I’ve lived a whole lifetime without them but it almost seems like yesterday. I was 16 when he died he died two days before I got my drivers license and he gave me my first car.

Gorgeous vehicle

@What.its.like.

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree

Jay, you've certainly done your research on this car. Packard needed to make at least 85k units in '56 in order to remain afloat, obviously 28k didn't cut it. Dick Teague, Packard's chief of design did a masterful job with a body style that debuted in 1951. The 1957 - 58 "Packards" were rebadged Studebakers with bits and pieces of Packard hardware grafted on. The sold poorly, SP dropped Packards from their lineup for the 1959 model year.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.. I wasn’t 100% sure if it was a dick Teague design I knew he went to amc eventually and styled such cars at the Marlin =)

@BELCAN57

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. A fellow named Reinhart designed the original body style in 1951. He left shortly after and Teague followed on thru the close of the Detroit plant in 1956.

@gcfifthgear

Жыл бұрын

The 1958 Packards ended production in June 1958, with barely 2600 units sold all together, and S-P was already hard at work on the new Studebaker Lark.

@rogersmith7396

Жыл бұрын

Teaque was a genius with AMC.

@ernielaw

24 күн бұрын

That would have been in 1970

These are some beautiful elegant cars! 🤩 I've seen some in the past at the auto shows and it is true they do have great presence! Merry Christmas 🎄☃️ I'll have to start going back through the videos, I can't quite remember when I first became a member, but I know it's been one awesome video after another since, I'll have to start trying to pick a favorite one because they are all great cars !

Loved this episode but how about one on the 1957 Studebaker based Packard Clipper whatever the reason ing of it not being a true Packard it was certainly an attractive car which as a model had it been produced against a different background & circumstances could have been a good seller

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Glad you dig this episode I will look for one =)

Another great review of a seldom seen car, Jay, Thank you for featuring it. (And yes, I do remember the Imperial Palace well. I used to go to Las Vegas a lot for work and always made a point to go check the cars out in the Museum there.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

It sucks it’s not there anymore I was there in Las Vegas once I was 16.. we saw 58 heads off on that trip and got my picture next to it it was one of only a handful that I’ve ever saw up at that point.. edsel coming before Christmas =)

Gorgeous car!

@What.its.like.

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it was =)

I believe these cars (1955 and 1956) had terrible automatic transmission problems that contributed to the end of the marque? Also did some of the "56 have the same problematic push button shifting that was present in the Edsal that came into being a couple of years later that became part of the reason for Edsal failure? ("Torque-lock in Park,wouldn't shift out of Park unless another vehicle pushed it uphill slightly to take pressure off the internal park lock in the transmission)(happened when the car was parked on an incline and the park lock was holding the car before the parking brake was set) the desirable one would be the 3 speed with overdrive which allowed a shorter final drive ratio making the car quicker and without the mechanical problems from the "gear start" Ultramatic surprising that the Straight 8 circa 1948-1950 models don't get more attention from old car enthusiasts as well as the 1951 through 1954 models

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight and information =)

@nomebear

Жыл бұрын

The Packard automatic transmission did not have an oil cooler, and that also caused problems.

@davidpowell3347

Жыл бұрын

@@nomebear Packard had introduced a new line of Packard V8 engines for the 1955 model year,it might have been too much for the automatic transmission to handle,kind of a tragedy that the engines were not built after "56 (Factory shut down?) (Tooling sent to Soviet Union for the Chaika?) some people consider it to have been one of the best engines of the era although it would have been tough to beat the Chrysler Hemi and also the DeSoto "Firedome" of the era I think there was supposed to have been an arrangement to sell the engines to other car brand companies,I think a few of them appeared in Hudson Hornet and Studebaker Hawk. (Not in the Packarbakers that followed the demise of Packard but in actual brand Studebakers)

I’ve been to Morgantown. It’s an amazing place.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That place is epic the people were really nice and friendly there, Going back on Wednesday I can hardly wait

Nice car, and the last Real Packard. Ah, where to start with Packard's demise. Medium priced cars saved the company once, but after the war, when the public would buy anything on wheels, the medium priced market was no place for a prestige marque to be. But the problem started long before, and it was a management problem, not a product problem. Whatever capital Packard had in 1946 was squandered in the next ten years.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

It sucks packard lost their way after wwII, in a way they died in the war

Happy Festivus...for the rest of us

When you were describing the knobs, etc., you missed the two cool chrome ashtrays in the dashboard (one in each far corner).....driver's side and passenger's side.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for point that out

@carlv8168

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. You're welcome.

My impression is that Packards cost considerably more than comparable models from other companies. They should have come out of WWII with lots of money being a prime defense contractor. They had lost the cachet of the 30s.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

They should have built the Merlin v12 for engines in marine and other applications

Merry Christmas Jay and to your family ! Ho , HO, HO !

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas to you and your family =)

Jay, you forgot to wish a happy festivus for the rest of us.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Oh darn it =)

Jay can u do a episode on the Hornet SC 360 sitting to the left of the Packard, those are cool and rare.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I ran out of time I’ll try and do it next time if it’s there.. going back Wednesday =)

Excellent Vidya 👍

The Packard Studebaker merger was a failure waiting to happen. Both company's had cooked the books and neither one was in good financial shape. The other part of the ill conceived plan was for Nash and Hudson to join the merger. However when the head of Nash died in the middle of the whole debacle his replacement George Romney said no way were they going to merge. If Studebaker Packard had been healthy and the four company's merged they would have rivaled General Motors and Ford and actually been bigger than Chrysler. Nash, Hudson did keep the purposed name for the new company, American Motors.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if things would have been different or if Chrysler would still have all the rights to amc.. it would be interesting

I saw, some time in the late ninties, in Illinois, if I remember correctly, a pale yellow executive with a three speed transmission. It had a blank shift indicator where the "PRNDL" would be at the base of the steering column. I was told Packard would build them any way you wanted the transmission. They really did not rot all that badly as any one who could afford one could afford to take care of it. I drove one other one in the 80's that was for sale, but the transmission leaked so bad I passed on the sale. Packard made their own transmission, and lack of availability of parts ran me off. I KNOW you did a video on the SC 360 next to this one. Right?

@What.its.like.

6 ай бұрын

Great information thank you so much for sharing all of that yes I did an episode on the SC 360 right next to it kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmaotZKvhJmzpqQ.htmlfeature=shared

Even the Russians were impressed with this Packard...take a look at a "Chaika" sedan or limousine

Does it have the self leveling suspension? Some packards did. As kids walking home from school we couldn’t resist jumping on the rear bumper to watch it rise up, and then level out. We got in trouble because it ran the battery down.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

That’s what the torsion bar suspension was it was an option on the executive $110 option.. hoping to do a Caribbean next year hopefully be able to show how that works

@tedecker3792

Жыл бұрын

@@Jack_Russell_Brown easily amused when you’re 12.

@michaelabernathy7013

Жыл бұрын

'Jay Leno's Garage' has a KZread episode showing the Torsion-Level suspension on his Carribean. A car that Jay often drove to the studio when he hosted the Tonight Show. Interestingly he puts the car on his lift and shows the whole system underneath. Keep up the good work Jay and Happy Holidays to you too. By you featuring the orphan cars you keep their memories alive.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thank you for adding that I forgot to mention leno shows how the system works he has two Packard Caribbean‘s now =)

To little to late, to fall in love with you! Already broke, so sad to bad by, bye! Perfect car , to bad !!!

Happy, happy. 🇺🇸🍺

Your headlight trims are from a 1955 model Packard senior car!

Driveable art

The air conditioning vents are on the dash. It does not have a trunk air conditioner.

AC was a luxury in 1956

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it was and expensive too

My father owns a 1956 Packard Executive.

@What.its.like.

10 ай бұрын

Sweet =) how did he like it

Packard Executive was a Clipper upgraded with Packard trim. I noticed that this car has a Clipper ship's wheel horn button, not a Packard crest. This could have been an assembly line error!

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

I saw that as well.. the executive was weird it was the bottom of the senior series but had clipper odds and ends.. packard still had a Junior and Senior series but I wasn’t sure what was junior series I figured it was the clipper but wasn’t sure where the line was if the 400 was junior series I know the patrician and Caribbean and executive were senior models

@danielulz1640

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. Packard marketed the Clippers as a separate and lower price brand in 55 and 56. The 56 400 was a senior car and a member of the Packard line. That is what makes the 56 Executive such an anomaly. It used the shorter wheel base and quarter panels of the Clipper and the smaller Clipper engine but had the Packard grille and dashboard and Packardesque side trim and was sold as a Packard!

Studebaker would use those taillights on the ‘57 and ‘58 Packardbakers. And to make them less attractive, they put a fin atop the existing fin. Ugh!! Those PB’s were an insult to the greatness of Packard.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

56 in a lot of way was the last true packard it sucks I wish packard would have merged with Pierce arrow and peerless could have been the three Ps and made American rolls Royce (packard is better than rolls Royce in my opinion, much higher quality in a packard)

Too bad they couldn't have merged with the Mercury division at FOMOCO and been sold as a Patrician-Marquis with torsion ride, big V8 and a real choice between Lincoln and Mercury cars.

I was a Junior in high school when the 56 Packard came out. I loved it, especially the design and unique color combinations. Still one of my favorite cars ever - almost 70 years later! I lived in South Bend, Indiana at the time which was the home of Studebakers where they began as buggy makers. After that merger Packard design became nothing short of atrocious! Some of the ugliest and cheapest looking cars ever. Like putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa. Such an inglorious end to such a glorious history. So darn sad.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

The end of packard was so sad I wish they got absorbed with amc

@bobdillaber1195

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. Oh yes. Could have possibly been much better. The Packards of the 30's were some of the most gorgeous, classic cars ever built! Equal or better than Caddilacs at the time.

@bobdillaber1195

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. I have framed that marketing brochure you showed on your video. It's a big piece and I love it!

@bobdillaber1195

Жыл бұрын

@@What.its.like. In my opinion the 30's was the greatest Era for car design followed by the late 50's to early 60s. If one has even a slightly artistic eye today's vehicles are horrible.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

My absolute favorite era of Packard 1935 to 1942 they didn’t make a single bad body design even the sedans a super nice.. and don’t even get me started on the darrin models

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and your family. This is a great car for the occasion, what a shame they lost their heritage of luxury carriage manufacturers with tremendous innovations. (V-16, V-12, V-8, all hauling big cars with even bigger interiors.) Just imagine if Apple went into a terminal decline, because the customer base realised how overpriced their products are. You would remember them, but your kids would just think you were weird. Welcome to being an adult. Still, beautiful cars.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Great comparison with apple =) Merry Christmas to you and your family

@5610winston

Жыл бұрын

I don't recall Packard ever building sixteens, Cadillac did, I think Marmon had one in the works, but not Packard.

@stevenhoman2253

Жыл бұрын

@@5610winston I'm fairly certain they had one in the early 30s. A full array of big V engines, from 16 to 8. I just watch from the side, and try to educate myself, so I can make mistakes.🤔🤔🤔🤔

@5610winston

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenhoman2253 Merry Christmas to you and your family. I looked it up, and from what I found, it appears that Cadillac introduced the first production V16 passenger car in 1930, and Marmon was working on one when they went into receivership in 1934. There was a typo in a photo caption referring to a V16 designed for Packard in 1915, but the rest of the caption described the Packard "Twin Six", the first V12 car in the world. The accompanying photo was a Twin Six, and the body of the article made no mention of a Packard sixteen. You might find the history of Packard's wartime alliance with Rolls Royce for production of aircraft engines interesting. Look up the Packard Merlin aircraft engine. Cheers!

@stevenhoman2253

Жыл бұрын

@@5610winston Cheers, thank you for that information. I have my fingers in so many pies due to curiosity that I sometimes find it remarkable I remember my phone number. Happy new year as well, mate.

"Made for the young man on his way up" - and sold on his way down...

Pakard with it's hydraulic shocks and powerful engine was a good choice for moonshine runners in the 50s because the Feds couldn't tell if was loaded or not. Ford was the first choice and mechanics in the moonshine business used the hydraulic shocks and built rebuilt Fords purchased from the factory with racing engines just for the moon traffic. In 1958, the movie Thunder Road used this information. The 1950 Ford was modified as well as the 1957 that Mitchum uses in the film. Also, aluminum tanks in the trunk held 250 gallons of white lightning which was better than glass jugs. Just a little info. If you've never seen this movie, watch it and see what bootleggers were like in the 50s.. The movie is on U Tube. ( I meant Packard, not Pakard . My bad.)

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing all that information as well as insight it sucked when Packard got catfish by Studebaker.. I wish packard would have merged with Pierce arrow and peerless they could’ve been one powerhouse of a luxury brand

@wesleycook7687

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

11.2 miles per gallon. Quite a few fill ups on the way from New York to Los Angeles.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah gas was cheap back then, someone shared a story in comment section about their dad having this car right hand drive in Australia and it had overdrive he claimed it got close to 20 mpg

It had to be in their advertising company. Just as in the past, that car was above all other American luxury cars. And I'm a devout Ford product fan. Read....Lincoln.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

It was a number of things

Over powered by to much money from other car corporations. Everything perfect, even more advanced than other predecessors . When popular option generally speaking takes over , beyond reasoning!

Studebaker-Packard made the mistake of leaving the Packard factory for the former and smaller ex-Chrysler Conner Avenue factory, wasting precious money. The traditional Packard was doomed once the Detroit factory was shut as the Studebaker plant in South Bend was too narrow to manufacture the Wide Packard bodies, hence the 1957 and 1958 "Packards" being tarted up Studebakers. Maybe if Packard lovers had understood and supported these last cars anticipating a "true" Packard once finances were better, one may have been made. Hindsight is a wonderful thing if only people had purchased lots of Microsoft, Google, and Apple Computer shares on their IPO's they'd be multi-millionaires, but, like the last years of Packard who knew what the future would bring.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree =)

@nomebear

Жыл бұрын

My father bought a new "tarted up" Studebaker. It wasn't anywhere near the quality and workmanship. A die hard, he drove it until 1960 and traded it for a Lark. They seemed to be the same car. My mother hated Studebaker, she drove a mid-fifties Buick with factory air conditioning, it was luxurious.

@johnclements6852

Жыл бұрын

@nomebear the Lark was created by reducing the front and rear of the big sedans. Basically, the cars of the Lark series through to the end in 1966 had cabins dating from the 1950s as the company didn't have the money to replace it, nor sufficient sales volume to provide the necessary capital to do so. Your Mom was right. A Buick of the day was far more luxurious than anything Studebaker could hope to offer, but they did the best with what they had.

More power than a Cadillac OR a Corvette of the same year!

@What.its.like.

4 ай бұрын

Better looking to

It was too little too late. Still looking a bit stodgy, but quite similar to a 1955-1956 Mercury. It just didn't have the newer sleeker lines of the rest of the cars. The merger just slit it's throat.

At least one Executive was built with the 374 dual-quad Caribbean engine, overdrive manual, the highest ratio (lowest numerically) Twin Traction axle, and all the bells and whistles. The original owner kept constant contact with the dealership over the objections and questions about the compatibility of the specified running gear. Apparently the original owner proved whatever point he intended, or found the car unsatisfactory for some other reason early on because when I read about it (about thirty years ago) the car had changed hands at about five hundred miles, again around 575, and had about seven hundred fifty at thge time of the article.

@What.its.like.

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for adding all of that information I saw it was conflicting some sources said the 374 was available in the executive most sources said it was only the 352 v8 so I went by the book of collectible cars said it was only 352 v8 that is the hardest part about doing Classic Cars especially the orphan cars lots of conflicting information