In memoria di mio nonno sergente maggiore del aeronautica catturato in Africa settentrionale in memoria di tutti i caduti italiani che riposano nel sacrario di quota 33 ad El alamein

Mi commuove pensare e vedere quello che hanno dovuto affrontare i nostri ragazzi, combattendo pur non avendo niente ma con grande onore e valore, uomini forti di un Italia che non esiste più, persone umili che combattevano fino alla fine dimostrando al mondo di che pasta era fatta il soldato italiano

In perenne memoria dei nostri nonni ♥️

Rommel liked the Italian soldiers but not the Italian system or equipment. This is what Rommel said about Italian soldiers he fought with: "The duties of comradeship, for me particularly as their Commander-in-Chief, compel me to state unequivocally that the defeats which the Italian formations suffered at El Alamein in early July were not the fault of the Italian soldier. The Italian was willing, unselfish and a good comrade, and, considering the conditions under which he served, had always given far better than the average. There is no doubt that the achievement of every Italian unit, especially of the motorised forces, far surpassed anything that the Italian Army had done for a hundred years. Many Italian generals and officers won our admiration both as men and soldiers. The cause of the Italian defeat had its roots in the whole Italian military and state system, in their poor armament and in the general lack of interest in the war shown by many of the leading Italians, both officers and statesmen. ... In general terms, the defects which existed in the Italian armed forces arose from the following causes: The Italian command was, for the most part, not equal to the task of carrying on war in the desert, where the requirement was lightning decision followed by immediate action. The training of the Italian infantryman fell far short of the standard required by modern warfare. His equipment was so utterly bad, that for that reason alone, he was unable to stand his ground without German help. Perhaps the best example of the inferior quality of the Italian armament-apart from the grave technical defects of their tanks, with their short-range guns and under-powered engines-was to be found in the artillery, with its low mobility and short range. Their supply of anti-tank weapons was totally inadequate. Rations were so bad that the Italian soldier frequently had to ask his German comrade for food. Particularly harmful was the all- pervading differentiation between officer and man. While the men had to make shift without field-kitchens, the officers, or many of them, refused adamantly to forgo their several course meals. Many officers, again, considered it unnecessary to put in an appearance during battle and thus set the men an example.

@brambillafumagalli9535

2 жыл бұрын

I think what you wrote is true because it is the same now. Congratulations on the beautiful post. Greetings

@papmatta5902

2 жыл бұрын

As Italian I can tell you that nothing changed since then. We are still great workers led by a bunch of assholes

@LoudaroundLincoln

Жыл бұрын

@@papmatta5902 it's a familiar story. Many of us around the world know it well. Same film, just different actors.

This is an excellent film

@giuliobecchio4293

5 жыл бұрын

@Tomos Ap Llewelen El Alamein - The line of fire

@sam-2341

5 жыл бұрын

Tomos Ap Llewelen very difficult to find an English dub, but definitely worth watching if you get an opportunity

@solidbeard8324

2 жыл бұрын

@@sam-2341 There is only a german dub version. I know this because I came across a trailer of that version which I find it weird.

secondo me questo film è bellissimo.... non ha nulla da invidiare a film di guerra Americani.... anzi... senza nessun effetto speciale o azioni eroiche finte lo ritengo il film italiano migliore di sempre

I am Italian .... and I am proud of what our army has done in Africa ...... it has endured for more than two months in these conditions which the film documents very well ...... surely if the English gentlemen had been in our logistical situation we would have won ........ I don't say much ..... but already if they hadn't had the tanks ..... our soldiers would have slaughtered them all one by one

@montycasper4300

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize they were fighting for the most evil regime in human history right? 80M people died in that war of genocide and aggression.

@lorenzoceccotti4876

3 жыл бұрын

@@montycasper4300 if you had not understood it, the Italian soldiers except for some regiments did not really believe in the figure of the Duce .... we Italians were not ready for this war and above all we had no reason to fight. we were practically forced to go to war otherwise Germany would have invaded us in a few months. we Italian people did not want war, we were practically forced to wage it. mine was just an eulogy to the Italian army ... which did not firmly believe in this war and yet managed to resist for months on this front ... without escorts ... against a much better equipped British army

@yol_mykahi6859

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzoceccotti4876 your a fuckwit

@yol_mykahi6859

3 жыл бұрын

​@@lorenzoceccotti4876 your country was scared you didn't wanna fight but you join one of the biggest genocides ever

@riccardomallardo7779

3 жыл бұрын

@@montycasper4300 probably, but to be honest what we did wasn't any worse than what our enemies did, name me one single crime committed by italy that wasn't committed by tge brits, americans and russians too, racial laws? Genocide? Imperialism? Just name me one

Nella situazione che racconta il film non si tratta dei combattimenti sul Ruwesait Ridge, ma nella zona della Folgore a Sud, nei pressi del passo del cammello.

@marcot.rosestolato3511

4 жыл бұрын

Vero. Infatti Solfrizzi racconta a Favino che dovevano andare nel settore della folgore a chiudere un varco

@stefanob.7546

Жыл бұрын

Esatto

FOLGORE and PAVIA 🕊🥹💪🇮🇹🔥🔥🔥🥇🦁

@stefanob.7546

Жыл бұрын

Ariete..Littorio.. Bologna..sabratha..Pavia...Folgore..Trento..

"... Il soldato tedesco stupì il Mondo, il bersagliere italiano stupì il soldato tedesco..." E. Rommel 🤫🤫🤫

@soloandrea6573

4 жыл бұрын

Frase mai detta da Rommel...se la sono inventata ...era meglio che sul muro del sacrario non la scrivevano.

@danieledebrita3991

4 жыл бұрын

🤔🤔🤔

@deltaagreedsage20

4 жыл бұрын

@@soloandrea6573 che l'abbia detta o no non cambia le cose. I fatti sono fatti, le parole, semplici modi per esprimersi. Probabilmente l'ha pensato, ma mai detto, ciò non cambia il valore dei nostri uomini.

@utenteantimoralismo8549

2 жыл бұрын

Non si sa se l'abbia detta o no, ma in ogni caso non sfigura perché Rommel ha sempre parlato bene dei soldati italiani.

@soloandrea6573

2 жыл бұрын

@@deltaagreedsage20 invece cambia , le parole sono importanti e mettere su teatrini non va certo ad onore delle nostre truppe.

The kiwis fought so hard it's great film we will.remember them

Name of the movie "El-Alamein la linea del fuoco"

Yea my uncle died in this battle the truth was their was no British armour they stayed back at camp in their bunks.the plan was for the NZ,s to clear a path and the armour to follow the armour never arrived.the new Zealanders fought their way back to the surprise of the British .The NZ commander found the British tank commander asleep in his bunk and woke him up with the toe of his boot.

@huntarama9375

4 жыл бұрын

@sr_ jed All I will say is its not the first time it happened. You could say it was a strategic decision not to risk British Armour. As far as the nzers were concerned it was the English not doing what they said they would do. Depends on perspective . A lot of commonwealth forces died during ww2 because of the english not wanting to risk their military assets.

@Phily3bats

2 жыл бұрын

Your uncle did his duty, god bless him

@davide2890

2 жыл бұрын

as an Italian, glory to your uncle

Re-uploaded better quality clip, unfortunately previous comments were lost, feel free to comment again.

@jasondevon481

4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are sh1t and an insult to everyone who fought in them.

@Kenshiroit

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasondevon481 YAY the brits are offended, good video :-D

Where can I watch the movie with English subtitles

@albertostramac5285

3 жыл бұрын

Amazon prime video

Tanti soldati italiani morirono 😔 and many ANZAC soldiers,too 😔

@marcot.rosestolato3511

4 жыл бұрын

C'erano anche greci, francesi, inglesi, sudafricani, indiani. Era un esercito multinazionale

@matteograssi5898

4 жыл бұрын

@@caterinasupino9565 Ce la siamo giostrata fin troppo bene

@vincenzo4965

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcot.rosestolato3511 metà però era inglese

Viva l'Italia

These soldiers were the best what italian army got, in ww2. Pitty was why Italy did not use them later, in a conflict. I mean in 1943 and 1944.

The New Zealand 2nd Division would make it all the way up to Faenza and Trieste. Casualty rate was over 60% by the end.

Where can I find this movie with English subtitles

@ГверифайдИС

3 жыл бұрын

Amazon prime video or try on openload even tho they might have deleted it

I'm proud to be a newzealander

Actually, the 2nd NZ Division helped defeat Italian and German forces in North Africa and took part in the invasion and defeat of the same in Italy.

@caitlingibson8730

4 жыл бұрын

They were great fighters the newzelanders

@montycasper4300

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, captured German officer's in Tunisia referred to Americans when being interrogated British personel as "your Italians".

@Kenshiroit

3 жыл бұрын

@@montycasper4300 the your or our Italians was commonly used in allied circles when they spoke about the Americans.

@montycasper4300

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kenshiroit They got better and some British units performed poorly too. When you enlist most of the male population it comes down to training and leadership and that varied markedly.

@Kenshiroit

3 жыл бұрын

@@montycasper4300 true but not only. Logistics tactics intelligence. Obviously in a large army there are variation of performance. Its expected.

I wish I could find this movie in it's entirety with English translation.

Good to see you back!

My Great Grandfather was captured and made a POW on Ruweisat Ridge during the First Battle of El Alamein. But it was the Germans who captured them, not Italians.

@felixcortez849

4 жыл бұрын

Was he shipped to a German POW camp then as expected if captured by a German unit?

What movie is this?

@soloandrea6573

2 жыл бұрын

El Alamein la linea del fuoco

Yup

E niente... Si poteva far un bel film, ma non riuscito... Mio nonno quando lo vedette mi disse "e secondo te è la realtà"? Ok la Pavia... Lui era a nord nella "Trento" ma da questo film disse... "caxxate 48 ore di artiglieria nostra e loro, dopo ciò che resta senza dormire, bere, mangiare, si avanza"!! È un'alta storia...

Gorgeous music.

🇮🇹 ❤

What name this film?

@lorenzovicinelli5235

4 жыл бұрын

El Alamein the line of fire

Holding of an attack is not defeating.

Australian Banzai Charge

@marcot.rosestolato3511

4 жыл бұрын

With 1024 tanks

@filipposaracchini1976

2 жыл бұрын

In the Folgore sector there weren't australians.

@jammyscouser2583

Жыл бұрын

New Zealand bayonet attack

Operation super charge making change All africans front

The history books show that the Pavia & Brescia divisions were effectively gutted at Tel el Eisa & Ruweisat, and it was only the German armour that saved what was left. My father was in the 20th Battalion 2NZEF, and was made a PoW there...by German armour. This film appears to be like so many others - a not-so-subtle re-write of history. The pity is that so many believe a film rather than find out a little more about the real story - this one appears to be a modern Braveheart - full of stirring actions but very thin on reality

@phantomsoldier497

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like you have to study your story better. The 20th battalion 2NZEF fought in the 1st battle of El Alamein and was enircled by 15th panzer division on july '42. They never fought in the 2nd battle of El Alamein because they were being reorganised. Brescia and Pavia weren't saved by german armour because the panzer divisions were routed at the beginning of the battle and left italian divisions back. They tried resisting but were swept by british attack and tried retreating by foot to Fuka were other axis units were. The survivors were encircled and had to surrender on NOVEMBER 7th '42.

@ssimossimo907

4 жыл бұрын

Ohohoh

@Alesxandros

3 жыл бұрын

Kiwi=owned

@Kenshiroit

3 жыл бұрын

I think you mixing the battles around....

@dman8115

2 жыл бұрын

Given your lack of knowledge in the subject, this comment is DRIPPING with Irony

Because my great grandfather fought in derest rat's

غازي.مسلط.غازي.قادرني.حمدني.ربه

What NZ was doing there? Dying for the queen? POMs

@johnobrien5460

4 жыл бұрын

Killing Nazis and fascists!

@alanbrooke144

4 жыл бұрын

Nah mate, just saving the world from fascist tyranny....

@johnobrien5460

4 жыл бұрын

@@seph3803 the nazis were partly a product of the enlightenment, not all that came from this epoch was good. Their philosopher of choice was Nietzche ideas like the ubermensch, he wrote that famous line God is dead we have killed him.There will not be enough water to wash the blood from our hands. This is singly the greatest bit of political prophecy in the history of humanity given the way that things unfolded in the twentieth century with the tyranny of the Nazis and for my mind the worse crimes of the Communists Most people are not aware of the last bit of that sentence. This was mixed in with social Darwinism (survival of the fittest) which was popular amongst all Europeans at the time amongst the elites. None of these under currents have a Christian base to them. With regards to the problems stated above in your piece.This is a product I suggest from the post modernist movement in part. Which actually started in Heidelberg in the pre war periods. These people repackaged Marxist elements due to their frustration with the working class world wide not rebelling against the capitalist system.

@johnobrien5460

4 жыл бұрын

@@seph3803 that is why I said partly right at the beginning .The German elite had no time for Christianity even though the populace did. By the way what's your real name?

@johnobrien5460

4 жыл бұрын

@@seph3803 haha criticising a nations soldiers most of which had a 5 year tour of duty but unable to put your name to your writings.

You do remember that your country a) lost the war , b) massacred thousands of Africans in Eritrea, Somalia, Egypt, Sudan and Kenya, c) almost f_cked up the invasion of France. d) used mustard gas and ran its own concentration camps ( 10 at least ) . So please do tell the whole story not just the “ glorious ones “

@injured_fullback

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Anfieldb we do tell both stories and actually most people know only that. Both of them should be told.

@ItaloGallese

3 жыл бұрын

They are redressing they balance. In English language sources there is much of the defeat but little if the material disadvantages they had. It was a essentially a second world power against a first world power and its entire empire. This film simply portrays the reality of El Alamein where they with little chance put up he’ll of a resistance against all odds. Yes in contrast to the shambles early on... but the film is on El Alamein

@giulianoilfilosofo7927

3 жыл бұрын

So basically a light version of the criminal syndicate known as British Empire?

@Adrian-vz8ik

3 жыл бұрын

Like the allied powers so

@natsu897

3 жыл бұрын

The British Empire has brought the world to the blood for 200 years I must remind you of the "white man burden" Learn history before you speak

Italian cows always run. AERAAAA

@marcot.rosestolato3511

Жыл бұрын

History says "no". Sorry

That was a terrible movie italians ran didnt stand and fight lol

@marcot.rosestolato3511

3 жыл бұрын

In your dreams 😋

@ГверифайдИС

3 жыл бұрын

Bet you don't study history.

@gianfranco4815

2 жыл бұрын

How is studying history meme by meme and not on books?

@giarenella

2 жыл бұрын

What about you learn some history instead of watching memes all day?

@CA-tb1dl

2 жыл бұрын

Ignorant kid

Pavia division? More like CHICKEN division lol

@red36825924

5 жыл бұрын

They are not you.

@holyemperorofanimetiddies5548

5 жыл бұрын

That would be the anglos

@pietrocavagna5179

5 жыл бұрын

These “chikens”, our grandfathers, resisted on the ridge, defeated the brave enemy soldiers and covered the flight of the others, even the germans armed with panzers and heavvy guns that left them there.....Pavia division estinguished in that battle, as no live or free man survived...these chikens were Italians prouds to be there as italian soldiers....please give them respect as we give respect to all the fallen soldiers.

@DJhuggo

5 жыл бұрын

stupid lady...

@DJhuggo

5 жыл бұрын

@@insurrezione. thanks YTP...Daniella shes a classical stupid girl !

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Se i nostri nonni avessero saputo cosa anno dovuto subire per avere un Italia fatta di feccia come la Boldrini e compagni, forse non avrebbero sopportato questo scempio...... Comunque sempre onore a questi che sono stati veri italiana people............ PRESENTE.

@stefanocamoni229

2 ай бұрын

Ed i responsabili di queste sconfitte e perdite di territori che avremmo potuto ancora avere furono competentissimi governanti di destra... Tutti presi dalla foga nazionalista lo si dimentica troppo spesso no?