Peter Stone's script is superb. One walked into the theater knowing how the show would end, but five minutes into the film--and play--one began to wonder how--and if--Independence would be achieved. Brilliant!

Their wealth, their lives and their sacred honor. "If we don't stick together surely we will be hanged separately." Ben Franklin

@septegram

2 жыл бұрын

Franklin was actually being witty; he says "If we do not hang together, we shall most assuredly all hang separately."

Adam's comment "It's done...it's done" is incredibly moving. No cheers That's all that needs to be said at such a moment. no cheers just satisfaction

@jenniferann7212

Жыл бұрын

He also knew the real work was about to begin.

@vccstudents

Ай бұрын

It's one of my favorite movie lines of all the movies I've seen. Every time I have set a long-term, meaningful goal and accomplished it, I find myself referring to this line.

William Daniels and Howard Da Silva should have received Oscars for their superb performances in this!

@barbarapeterson4000

17 күн бұрын

Daniels was nominated for an Oscar - but as Best Supporting Actor. He felt he was the lead and so declined the nomination.

@baronvonnembles

10 күн бұрын

@@barbarapeterson4000 He was nominated for a tony for the play, not an Oscar for the movie.

@barbarapeterson4000

10 күн бұрын

@@baronvonnembles whoops! Thanks for the correction!

@user-sx7wo1yl7y

7 күн бұрын

Absolutely agree. One of the finest historical films ever made- it seems secondary that it's a musical- although a wonderful open at that. All American conservatives should be forced to watch this, until they finally realize that conservativism was and always has been supremely un-American. We are a nation forged by radical, erudite, well-spoken, and highly educated LIBTARDS. Those were the days...

@davidahlstrom7533

5 күн бұрын

Nonsense. These were not 'libtards' like today. These were classical Liberals in the European sense. Freedom, liberty, and dignity for the entrepreneur, small farmer and average man (however imperfectly implemented for years) was what they believed. Today's "libtards" as you call Leftists believe in none of those things and only their ridiculous bigger and bigger governments.

Always liked Adams' final gesture of respect for Dickinson.

@kate2create738

2 жыл бұрын

Every man had their flaws, but they all had qualities to be admired too. John was believing in the values that would keep a society happy and healthy, he valued respect.

@Pfisiar22

Жыл бұрын

Dickenson was an interesting man. He would joke later in life about not signing the declaration. He was also a key figure in creating the Constitution

@RHHoward-er8lc

Жыл бұрын

And Dickinson acknowledging in his own way how he cared for America and it's well being bas much as Adams. So a mutual respect at the very end. And Dickinson was right . England and America would be reconciled and be the most important of allies in the coming centuries especially with world war 1 and 2

@peterbyrne7348

15 күн бұрын

Dickinson was also a key instigator of the rebellion, actually. Hos "Letters from a Farmer" made clear what the colonists' issues were. He's presented here as a sort of Tory, but actually everyone in Congress was in rebellion against the Crown.

The New Hampshire delegate, who voted first for independence, was Dr. Josiah Bartlett, an ancestor of mine. He was also the second signer of the Declaration of Independence (after John Hancock).

@kidkique

Жыл бұрын

Ben Franklin is an ancestor of mine! 6th great grandfather

@EMomp

Жыл бұрын

Awesome

@DeeWeber

Жыл бұрын

That's so cool!

@pocarea512010

17 күн бұрын

I Say, Ye! Dr. Josiah Bartlett !

I watch this every 4th of july. Love this movie. Also very funny.

@goldilox369

2 жыл бұрын

I do too. ❤️

@johnstraatmann9618

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@Grace-hc6dn

Жыл бұрын

Me too! Love it. 🙂

“Every mapmaker in the world is waiting on your decision.”

@BeefCake1012

6 ай бұрын

“No pressure or anything bud.” 😂🤣🤣

I always say this film should be watched by anyone complaining about today's congress. It shows how hard it was to get anything done with only THIS amount of men and just the congress (only one "house" if you will).

Such brave men putting all they had on the line. I'm amazed at their tenacity and bravery to this day. It isn't the perfect system but it is the best we've got unfortunately.

@phillipchappell6013

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a handicapped person, a son of man fought in Vietnam as a Marine. Lead the way for the Tanks in Desert Storm as a US Army Combat Engineer. If i had to i die on the line to keep country free. We have issues now, But this country still has promise.

@platoon1026

Жыл бұрын

Compare these men to the Congress w have today. Liars, thieves and perverts all; with a supporting cast of unelected overseers.

Always remember James Wilson!

Nothing held them together but their sacred honor. The miracle of July 2, 1776.

@hefestus2012

2 жыл бұрын

And the threat of execution for treason

@ktkat1949

Жыл бұрын

Too bad present Congress has no sacred honour

@gruntforever7437

9 күн бұрын

@@ktkat1949 no matter which way you spell it, present congress would be clue less

My husband and I have watched this every 4th of July since 1984. We pretty much know all the words and lyrics and say them. We also know that our Congress really hasn’t changed since 1776 except maybe more juvenile and mean.

I love the sort of stunned silence when the deed is finally done. It's more powerful, I think, than any sort of jubilant celebration would have been... especially given the 7 years of bitter conflict that would follow.

@stevevasta

Жыл бұрын

I saw the show on Broadway, and, at that moment, you could have heard the proverbial pin drop.

@fearlessfosdick160

7 ай бұрын

Yes. It was as if the weight of what they had just done was settling upon them.

Great movie to watch every 4th of July.

@sharonmahoney9333

Ай бұрын

We do!

@JohnSipe-jt7bm

10 күн бұрын

@@sharonmahoney9333As do I 1:33

There was never a moment,” wrote John Jay Chapman, “when the slavery issue was not a sleeping serpent. That issue lay coiled up under the table during the deliberations of the Constitutional Convention in 1787.”

@gruntforever7437

9 күн бұрын

there were fine men working hard to eradicate it before our country was even a country. but always a few fought it; and thus in the end came the civil war

My 5th grade teachers, Mr. Hooker and Miss May, showed us this movie in class and copied the music for us to sing along....it made a lasting impact ..

Another 4th to celebrate the birth of our country, these men put so much on the line for the chance that we experience freedom and liberty. It crushes me how too many have forgotten the risks they all took.

@brianjacobson297

8 күн бұрын

And now, not only are we on the verge of throwing it all away, but we're also potentially embracing something even worse than what they declared independence from.

I used to watch this picture when I was in middle school around 2001-2003, when I was in band class when we would have a substitute. I had seen it probably fifteen times throughout those years. I watched it the first few times and after that I just screwed around. I’ve seen it a few times since I’ve been an adult and I’m so grateful that I was introduced to this movie. It’s such a fantastic piece of film, history and art. This movie makes me glad to be an American.

@annedonovan9005

2 жыл бұрын

When I was in Middle School this movie had just about come out. Our teacher got us out of school for the morning to go to the local theater to watch it for class. It was an awesome experience (and not just because we got out of school for the morning).

@gnnascarfan2410

Жыл бұрын

My band teacher (was probably in his mid-70s) showed us this movie in my 8th grade year of middle school, 2014-2015. Sadly he retired at the end of that year but I had a tremendous amount of respect for him and he taught me and others a lot of valuable life lessons.

I love that line Ben Gates delivered in "National Treasure:" "Had we lost the war, they would have been hanged, beheaded, drawn and quartered, and-Oh! Oh, my personal favorite-and had their entrails cut out and burned!!" It had to be in the back of their mind as they signed...Franklin brought that up.

@BMe-ck6fd

2 жыл бұрын

How it would have worked is that they would have all been simply trundled onto a British military ship and shipped off to England never to be seen again

@2steelshells

2 жыл бұрын

We must all hang together...or we will all hang separately.,

"If we don't hang together now, we shall surely hang separately." Ben was hot with his English

"I say ye John Dickinson."

1776 best movie to me, seen this movie every year, on 7/4/. Actors very good who they represent of history and facts. I'm a history nut about presidents. Very historic movie. I'm crazy about it. Mrs. Allen. 💕 It.

Dickenson wasn't the DB as portrayed in the film. While not for Independence, he did do what he stated at the end and joined the fight. This confrontation never happened. During private deliberations, they came to an agreement that Dickenson would be absent that day. So while against Independence at that point and in good conscience could not vote for it, he would be conveniently absent and not stand in the way, so it was sort of a combination of what you see here, both Dickenson and Wilson, but only Dickenson actually doing it. It is a great scene. Saw the play years ago in revival with Brent Spiner as Adams, just wonderful.

@TTony-tu6dm

2 жыл бұрын

True. Also, the confrontation with Rutledge did not take place during the vote. Adams and Rutledge were close friends but at odds over slavery. It took political wrangling between Rutledge, Adams, Franklin and Jefferson to secure the vote, along the lines of, as Franklin says here, “first things first”. Unfortunately.

@jbreezy101

2 жыл бұрын

This was better depicted in John Adams, the miniseries

@CorsetLebelle

Жыл бұрын

Actually he was not there cause he had joined the pensalvina line and Washington

@whatareyoulookingat908

Жыл бұрын

Brent Spiner? Yuck. He soured on me despite the role. But glad you gave more information.

@r.c.auclair2042

Жыл бұрын

@@whatareyoulookingat908, quite right. Wikipedia lists the historical inaccuracies in the movie & this was one of those.

'' WE ''...we watch this every 4th OF JULY !

This movie is an absolute masterpiece, as well as being an important piece of history.

KITT as John Adams was a great choice

@kylahdorsey610

2 жыл бұрын

he played the teacher and later princple on boy meets world.

It is so sad how few Americans know the full history of how this once great nation was created!

@christopherbroaddrick7198

12 күн бұрын

There are many differences in what really happened, and this musical.

@gruntforever7437

9 күн бұрын

@@christopherbroaddrick7198 that is a cop out

In 1975/1976 during the Bicentennial, I was in the 5th grade in Weaver Alabama and our teachers arranged for us to go on a field trip (remember those) to see this movie at the theater. We were very excited and having a great time and then we noticed the teachers being shocked at some of the language used in the movie. All of us students thought it was funny. "Too late now" one teacher said, and we enjoyed the movie so much. If you were to show this movie today to students in school, I wonder what their reaction would be. Hard to believe we went from this great struggle for independence, to what is happening today. So sad. May the Lord Jesus save us soon!!

@DeeWeber

Жыл бұрын

My kids love it and I watched it in 6th grade in 84. I own it digitally, dvd, and vhs. My friend, it's not yr Jesus but our active participation that will keep the inheritance. Everyone forgets "Of the People". Disagree with something? Get involved. Not violently. Active civic participation. It's not what they can do for us as our government, it's what we are doing for this legacy and responsibility.

@shanesmith6941

Жыл бұрын

@@DeeWeber LOL You think it's going to get better ? Good luck with that.

I watch this every year on the Fourth!

It just makes me laugh with North and South Carolina, and the issue of slavery, like we would have the issues later if South Carolina's delegates kept their mouth shut. lol. I honest will always love this movie and musical was more then Hamilton

“If we give in on this issue, posterity will never forgive us”. Nor should it. You were correct Mr. Adams

@Madison-iw8ix

2 жыл бұрын

South Carolina has always been the problem child of America. It took ninety years, but we eventually solved the horror of slavery.

@spikespa5208

2 жыл бұрын

@@Madison-iw8ix Not if you listen to some these days.

@kennethpurscell

Жыл бұрын

Apparently Adam's said, "There will be trouble a hundred years hence. Posterity will never forgive us." The writers decided that no one would believe he really said this, so they shortened the line.

@bithead17able

Жыл бұрын

And yet Franklin's comments were correct. We wouldn't have been a nation and at that point what would have been the difference?

@mnfrench7603

Жыл бұрын

What are we Demi-gods? No, but they sure get treated as such.

Rhode Island on its own had declared Independence on May 4, 1776.

I've never seen the stage play, but this film version is excellent.

@SarahB1863

Жыл бұрын

The 1973 film starred just about the entire original Broadway cast (the only exception I think was the part of Martha Jefferson, playing onstage by Betty Buckley and on screen by Blythe Danner), so if you watch that it's pretty close to being a filmed version of the stage show. The stage version isn't produced often because the cast has about 26 male parts but only 2 female parts, so it's difficult for community theaters to put on.

@oliverbrownlow5615

Жыл бұрын

@@SarahB1863 Two very important replacements are Donald Madden as Dickenson (instead of Broadway's Paul Hecht) and John Cullum as Rutledge (instead of Broadway's original Clifford David). Cullum, however, had been the third replacement Rutledge on Broadway and actually played it longer on Broadway in the original production than any other actor. I've always thought the problem of the show having an overwhelmingly male cast could be solved (or at least mitigated) by presenting "1776* in repertory with *Nine" (which is all women with only one male role). Gender blind casting offers another strategy, and as you may know there was a recent revival that featured an all-female cast.

Massachusetts mr Feeney living American history as well as making it.

They would be ashamed and appalled at American politics today.

Fantastic!

Question: did anyone else come here after watching last Sunday's Game of Thrones episode, after the meeting with Tyrion & the slavers? For some reason, his diplomatic approach with them reminded me of this scene where Adams, Jefferson & Franklin had to choose between having a nation that (for the time being) tolerated slavery, and not having a nation at all.

I still say this flim should be played in schools now sure is probably everything in it legit probably not. But think it would show people just how hard it was, and why slaverly still happened after it. People seem to forget it wasn't like how it is now, where you don't need every vote. And something like this they needed every vote.

@UnderseaPumaKing

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct in that, historically speaking, it has its share of flaws. However none of these inaccuracies change

@TheTexasCowboy56

2 жыл бұрын

@@UnderseaPumaKing Yup and event hey admitted not all of it is correct, most of it they went off of letters, and stuff like that the these people wrote. But also there a lot they don't know what happened between the start and the vote so they just added some fun stuff in.

@oliverbrownlow5615

Жыл бұрын

It isn't historically accurate in every respect, but it dramatizes the issues in a compelling way, and can be used as a valuable teaching tool.

@b1uel1ght52

Жыл бұрын

I worked in a school as an instructional aide for 3 years and taught this film each year

I love mr Thomson!!! New Hamshire say yay!

5:58 and here we see the tragedy that is "cropped TV." When I first saw this on TV in 1975 I wondered why the heck Wilson was so low in the frame. It was another couple of decades before I saw the movie in its original aspect ratio and discovered Adams is standing to his left!

@oliverbrownlow5615

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Because most scenes take place in a Congressional chamber packed with delegates, the original theatrical widescreen version of this movie is stunningly different from the 4:3 "pan and scan" version shown on TV for decades.

I would love to go back in time to 1776 and love to hear their stories and map makers from 1776 to now. Plus, I wonder if any of them had any idea or predict how America was made and completed

During the last few minutes this is one very powerful film!

This can no longer be affirmed. This rangtaggled, regardless of the King's, men who sought freedom from England. Sought to bring this country to bear. God bless them

1776 did win a 1969 tony i loved this movie get history lesson

I love this movie.

The representative that did not wish to be remembered James Wilson,from Pennsylvania did some voice work in the Star Trek the original series, and Reverend Lymon Hall was in Amadeus.

@ThreePointOneFou

Күн бұрын

Also of note: James Noble (Rev. John Witherspoon, the lead delegate from NJ) starred on _Benson,_ and John Cullum (Edward Rutledge, the SC delegate) was on _Northern Exposure._

Historical error, both John Dickenson and James Wison were staunch supporters of independence. They both served on key committees regarding independence. Dickenson served on the second "committee of 5" charged with drafting proposed treaties to foreign powers after the declaration was made public. Wilson, who authored some of the first legal documents challenging the authority of Parliament (in the 1760s) over the colonies sans parliamentary representation was considered a legal scholar on a par with Adams and Jefferson. He was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Washington. Both of these men should be respected as leaders and founders of our nation, and certainly did not act as portrayed here.

@allenjpl

8 жыл бұрын

Uh, no. Dickinson favored negotiations and reconciliation, not independence. Thus the reason why he didn't sign the Declaration.

@Stalicone

8 жыл бұрын

allenjpl True, but he wasn't the intransigent douche as portrayed in this movie - a virtual Tory. He contributed mightily to American independance.

@masterskyrunner

7 жыл бұрын

John Dickinson served his country, but he was not a staunch supporter of independence. The day before the vote was rendered, he discoursed on the dangers of independence and democracy, that those who support it "are the promoters of slavery," that "so necessary is monarchy to cement human society together" that all democracy is doomed to end in "a state of confusion and ruin," and lead to conditions which will "annihilate liberty forever." In his last paragraph, he actually predicted the French Revolution quite accurately, give him that.

@carlevans7416

7 жыл бұрын

Philio Phrog & Allenjpl are essentially correct, I don't want to pile on but let us recognize that this musical has it's own creative license. Ultimately what happens here as in any historical piece, is that the authors turn up the volume on characterizations. Hamilton being timely here is a perfect example. These depictions are less rock solid historic accuracy and more along accurate interpretation. And one thing you would have to recognize that at any volume, Dickenson was immediately after and over time viewed as being on the wrong side of the coin from the American perspective. And what you describe is more a counterpoint that this film tries to address with his whole bit about going into service. A good proof of Dickenson being willfully discarded from the national narrative is the fact that there is a perfectly legit case to be made that the congress doesn't even come together without Dickenson's advocacy.

With that the United States of America was born, 4:11 but the fate of 618,222 future American lives is seal in the American Civil War.

@amitkenan3878

4 ай бұрын

Civil war was inevitable, but at that time they had to unite against the British threat

The quiet when all was done. They all knew they could be hanged. Starting a new country. Man!

John Dickinson didn't oppose Independence because he loved England. He opposed it because there was no actual government. Congress was just a committee, not a government and America suffered badly because all they had to lead them towards victory was a toothless committee. A unified central government over the 13 colonies could have shortened the war by 3 years, even with all the inherent mistakes of a young nation factored in.

@christopherbroaddrick7198

12 күн бұрын

In reality, Dickenson did not oppose independence.

While Dickinson has been assigned the role of villain in this musical in real history he was a hero. He was one of the architects of the Articles of Confederation that laid the foundation for our eventual Constitution. His objection to the Declaration of Independence was not so much because he harbored loyalty to the Crown but his fear that such a declaration was meaningless without a plan for follow up. Ultimately history proved him partially right as there was over a decade of uncertainty just to start off our government and as we know from history an incomplete and imperfect Constitution that came back to haunt us for the rest of American history.

Our of an honor. We true. men and all, pledge our sacred honor, to prefect and defend this oath of honor

John Adams was one of the founding fathers that didn;t own slaves.

glory to America!!!!

later on Dickenson became an anti slavery crusader

Sometimes unlikely people have to rise to the occasion. Read about Edmund G Ross the senator who voted not to impeach Andrew Johnon and was the reason the vote was 35 to impeach Johnson 19 not to. He was listed by John Kennedy in profiles in courage

"If I go with them, I'll just be just one among dozens, no one will remember the name of James Wilson". He had hoped to preserve his anonymity, however when I googled his name, he stands out as being "the only person who signed the Declaration of Independence"!

So that’s how they come up with the name, Little Caesar 😂

You'd think more movies would've been made about this.

Donald Madden reminds me so much of Phil Hartman.

Is it just me? But Would've love to have been there and say " Michigan says yea!" ( yes I know Michigan wasn't a colony!")

@BeefCake1012

6 ай бұрын

*the French Canadien settlers living under the yoke of British imperialism at Fort Detroit… “Michigan says YEAY!” 😂🤣

the founding fathers were hot af

@SarahB1863

Жыл бұрын

I had SUCH a crush on Thomas Jefferson thanks to this movie!

@SexySkoChick

17 күн бұрын

Thomas Jefferson was REALLY cute! 😳

@SexySkoChick

17 күн бұрын

@@SarahB1863 he was a HOTTIE 😍

Will July 4th, 2024 Be Our LAST Independence Day ?

NEW MEXICO SATOSHI NAKAMOTO, AKA SUSAN HERBERT, SAYS YEA !!

Why did they look at Adams like it's his fault for insisting slavery not be part of it. South Carolina is out of line for real with that shit

@ThreePointOneFou

Күн бұрын

Rutledge, in an earlier scene, was letting Jefferson have it for his oblique reference to slavery, both defending the practice as a "peculiar Southern tradition" and calling out both Jefferson and the Northerners as hypocrites (Jefferson as a slave owner, Adams' Massachusetts as a slave-trading hub). Adams tried to belittle Rutledge on the issue, prompting Rutledge to rub it in their faces (the "Molasses to Rum to Slaves" song) before leading the Carolinas and Georgia to walk out. Franklin subsequently reminded Adams that, for all their disagreements, the other delegates were still deserving of respect, and that Adams should start showing it to them.

I didn't think Ben franklin Would have that voice. He sounds like Batman LOL

@holydiver73

Жыл бұрын

The actor was named Howard Da Silva. He was blacklisted from movies in the late 40’s for being a dirty red. Ben Franklin would have been appalled having such a despicable character playing him .

Thank you Benjamin Franklin for the declaration of independence.

Wow, Mr. Feeny was there too? 🤣

After the vote was taken, I wonder if these men truly realized what they had done.

@whaaat3632

Жыл бұрын

They LIVED it. I would say yes.

3:00 - 3:10 sadly yes

The election of new representatives to the continental congress occurred soon after the vote on the declaration and the new additional representatives also signed realizing the significance

Holy S! FEENY!!

In all fairness, a clause accusing George III of carrying people off into slavery in another hemisphere should have been scratched out just for being untrue. Slavery as a system was in place before his grandfather was born and many men in Congress that day were a part of it a lot deeper than King George, especially including the man who wrote it

I guess a motion this important had to come from.Virginia. if Florida had sent delegates they wouldve probably sank the vote. Or probably just gone along with SC and NC and GA

@edwardpate6128

Жыл бұрын

Florida was not acquired by the United States from Spain until 1819, it was not an English colony.

Why does Franklin hardly seem like he is on the Pennsylvania delegation?

@thecousincrew9558

11 ай бұрын

The first time I watched the movie, I thought he was in the Massachusetts delegation. I got so confused when he voted with Pennsylvania! 😂

dickinson sounds like the late great phil hartman

Quick thing I caught - Delaware was also a majority vote - they kick him out also 😉

@ThreePointOneFou

Күн бұрын

Actually, there was a little dramatic license here. Caesar Rodney, the lead delegate from Delaware, would go on to die of cancer, but at the time of the Second Continental Congress he wa 37 and in good health.

To think the Civil War could of been prevented had South Carolina not been so goddamn stubborn about slavery. It should of ended right there that day.

@NOMADcourier85

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've read on it it probably wouldn't have ended till after the war and being part of the constitution.

@humansvd3269

2 жыл бұрын

That would have killed their economy.

@rc59191

2 жыл бұрын

@@humansvd3269 there's such thing as transitioning or hiring their slaves back as field hands and paying them a wage.

"Mr. Secretary, is the Declaration ready to be signed?" "It is." "Even with the new revision imposed during the vote?" "... (Well, crap.)"

@georgepierson4920

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that.

@mikeb8674

17 күн бұрын

It was the next day, Johnny tore the calendar page and everything. Not his name here but I will never not see him as Johnny the shoeshine guy from Police Squad. “Word on the street is that they’ll strike the slavery passage so the Carolinas will vote in favor.” :hands over $20:

Couldn't Pennsylvania had just abstained?

@Sueb18631

8 жыл бұрын

Good question but I don't think Franklin or Dickinson would have agreed to doing that. Franklin wanted it to pass and Dickinspon was just as determined to take it down. I also don't think they could if the resolution required a unanimous vote, i think that means every colony had to support it.

@InAHearbeat

8 жыл бұрын

No every colony didn't have to support it. New York (according to the movie) originally abstained. But I think abstaining has to be a consensus itself within the colony. Since there were 3 of them there would be a majority. It had to be Judge Wilson's decision, one way or the other.

@larrystuder8543

2 жыл бұрын

@@InAHearbeat it's a running joke thru the play and the film: the delegate from New York could not get any instructions from the NY Legislature. So he abstained, courteously. At the time of the signing, he has a line: "To Hell with New York!" , and signs...

@loveGG3

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, at the time of signing. Not at the time of voting. The point was it didn't have to have all yay votes. It only couldn't have any nays because originally NY abstained and it still passed.

"Every map maker in the world is waiting for your decision". Fantastic line.

This whole notion about James Wilson being the decider for Pennsylvania is BS. There were NINE Pennsylvanians who signed the Declaration.

Protect all costs the decent french or you will choose you own path of disaster till then .

Dickenson was certainly not as much of a buffon/tory as this film wants us to believe

@oliverbrownlow5615

Жыл бұрын

No, and nor did Salieri poison Mozart. But if Shakespeare taught us anything, it's not to let historical accuracy stand in the way of writing a good play.

@TTony-tu6dm

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think the film presents him as that at all. While not exactly historically accurate, it presents him as a man of conviction who supports what he believes is best, and when he is overruled he lends himself to the fight. Pretty noble imho

Why does Franklin sound like worf

@erik_griswold

2 жыл бұрын

Howard Da Silva had a distinct voice.

@davidahlstrom7533

2 жыл бұрын

You can also see a much younger Howard DaSilva in the great 1940 film Abe Lincoln in Illinois (he was Lincoln's early rival in Salem who wrestled with Lincoln). He was great in that supporting role also.

@sharonmahoney9333

Ай бұрын

@@davidahlstrom7533 And he played Ben Marino, the political wheeler-dealer, in "Fiorello!" on Broadway. Here he is, re-creating one of the signature songs from that musical, in which with his fellow cardplayers he acts out the testimony in the Tammany Hall trials in NYC. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqZ-r9CIfsjZYto.htmlsi=RhwvK1w9qu1ncm8z

No wigs? Pfftt.

Those woke jokes whining about this event are not worthy to empty their chamber pots

2 states actually voted AGAINST independence