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@SM-nc2pt

4 жыл бұрын

The Dave Ramsey Show 👍 co host is cute!

It should be a federal felony to sell someone a exercise science degree for $163k.

@greypilgrim1649

4 жыл бұрын

TANK SHERMAN the university should be charged with crime against humanity

@rachelhubbard6199

4 жыл бұрын

His degree most definitely did not cost that much. He accepted the FULL amount which generally 2/3 of the amount more than covers stuff aside from tuition.

@hamptoncokeley1456

4 жыл бұрын

Rachel Hubbard yeah WVU costs $25,000 a year out of state now. If he’s 35, even if he just graduated and took out cost of living, I’m just not sure how he took out that much.

@nats3289

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, it would probably be smart not to get that degree at THAT college. 🥴

@waflletoast11

4 жыл бұрын

I highly doubt a exercise science degree would cost 163k. Probably accepted the full money and spent a lot of it,

Parents need to be honest with thier kids and talk about what they can AFFORD.

@mr.speyside5240

4 жыл бұрын

But, but, but that’s NOT the American way!

@GHE-bv1pf

4 жыл бұрын

For most families, parents are clueless too. They insist college and debt is way of life.

@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo

4 жыл бұрын

At least have a plan. I def could NOT afford my university, but I graduated and make double what I used to recently. I had a lot of debt but I could probably pay it off in Q1 2021.

@jellybeans9283

4 жыл бұрын

C B absolutely, in my family someone studying liberal arts is educated, elite etc. While a trade student would be considered low class. Absolute idiots

@mannyjeanpierre4062

4 жыл бұрын

This.....parents can help their kids just by educating them

“What do you charge an hour like six bucks?” He’s so shady 😩😭

@naalynmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@spacediof

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Five What exactly is your point?

@jofo1274

4 жыл бұрын

R D does he have to spell it out for you? He’s saying Dave & Rachel can’t relate to a lot of these callers.

@rumblebeast08

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Five To say that people can't be successful in today's society is completely false. Is it harder? Maybe. The key is that people have to stop wasting their on useless college degrees. You can go into HVAC and make north of $100k/yr. I'm sorry, a degree in exercise science isn't worth it, at least not in this caller's example. He would make more money working as a fast food manager. Something isn't adding up.

@rumblebeast08

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Five It's not astronomically harder unless you make it harder on yourself. It's not a straw man when I'm referring to the exact example in the video. Someone should have told that guy he was wasting his time and money.

I know high school kids that make $14 an hour with no experience. This is insane. I feel for this guy.

@riverdaletales8457

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can make up to 40-60k a year without a college degree.

$14 an hour?... Dude, you should be charging 35-40 an hour. I feel like he's employed by some cheap chain company gym. He needs to be an independent contractor.

@rachelhubbard6199

4 жыл бұрын

He has to be working for a gym because my PT friends charge anywhere from 30-70 a session just depending on the package. And this is in AZ. My mom was paying 40/session at LA Fitness until she found out the trainer got $6 of that....$6!! So she quit because it wasnt fair to the trainer. Private training is the way to go for this guy

@TheMichelex20

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@exgamer07

3 жыл бұрын

He works in WV.....14 is 35/hr there.

@eckankar7756

3 жыл бұрын

It's s probably his commission for the session.

@TR-lh9yz

2 жыл бұрын

You can make $14/hr while you are still a high school student working at McDonalds. Don't even need a diploma.

My friend is a personal trainer and makes 40k and only has his high school diploma. Do people not research their degree before going to college?

@chindomnic8828

4 жыл бұрын

They don't. They are so ignorantly eager to sign those dotted lines.

@VampireKa1n

4 жыл бұрын

No, not really.

@thisizdub

4 жыл бұрын

Yeap

@ripvanwinkle4532

4 жыл бұрын

May he is not a very good personal trainer.

@TheFabled1

4 жыл бұрын

@@chindomnic8828 yes because after 12 years of public indoctrination, multiple lessons where they say 'working hard' is for chumps and skilled labor is equivalent to being a garbage man, you have to go to college, said over and over and over. All taking place in a setting that is not teaching you to critically think for yourself, you can and do actually get punished if you think for yourself and come up with ideas that even seem to contradict a strict adherence to the lesson plan. but most people do not care, bc at the end of the day, its just daycare! For parents to stupid, self obsessed, or indebted to take care of their own children. Maybe start asking who really benefits from all this??

This guy just told my whole life story, same age, same debt same degree BUT I have a master's w/that student debt. But my dad taught me well about working hard (was raised on a farm) so while I was in school I worked a night job, as soon as I was done with school I worked 3 jobs from 6am to 10pm eating nothing, driving a trash car, using the oldest phone in the world, no internet, no kids, no social life & I'm already debt free with more than 165k my bank account and even more in my retirement. So it is do able you just have to SACRIFICE your social life and having the newest things...oh and dont have kids

Imagine taking out 163k in student loans to make 29k per year. Insanity.

29k living in NY??? Scratch that. He's merely "EXISTING" not living. How is that possible? Bless him. Hope he gets his income up.

@5000MikeMaster

4 жыл бұрын

Kim Nevils imagine he’s got kids.. RIP

@MiraMira0ntheWall

4 жыл бұрын

Put money on him still living with his parents. Reasons why ppl aren't hitting those adult milestones. It's really sad.

@kimnevils252

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiraMira0ntheWall Wow. That's very true. Never thought of that angle. It really is sad when people are like that. It's like they grow physically but emotionally they never develop. They still 8 years old mentally.🥉🕹🧸

@MiraMira0ntheWall

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimnevils252 Yes. It's unfortunate but very common in NYC. It's an expensive city and our generation were really told you MUST attend college by any means. School debt was always called "good debt" by parents and older workers you might get advice from. You were made fun of or looked down on if you didn't attend college in my world.

@myytchannel6632

4 жыл бұрын

He is busy looking good to his female clients who are married and taking "personal" workout classes from him.

College education does not always mean higher pay. This needs to be stressed to young people.

@henri6595

4 жыл бұрын

College provides you with the mindset to do something. You use that mindset for whatever you want.

@artcamera5514

4 жыл бұрын

@@henri6595 Sorry but that is BS. Someone who is dumb doesn't automatically become a genius just because of a college degree. If you've lived long enough, you'd have seen it yourself in real life examples.

@henri6595

4 жыл бұрын

@@artcamera5514 I didn't say anything about college making someone a genius. I said college will help you do what you want, whatever that could be. You need to already have something inside you to shape your vision.

@artcamera5514

4 жыл бұрын

@@henri6595 You are missing my point. If someone knows what they want to do they don't need college to shape their mindset. If they need college to "shape their mindset", that means they're not ready for college.

@henri6595

4 жыл бұрын

@Brian Waller I always thought IT should pay amazing well. From the people I know it seems like they are killing it 🤔.?.?.

Why do you need 163k degree to become a personal trainer? You could do it for free.

@thetruth5635

4 жыл бұрын

That school is such a rip off I wonder which one it is ? Can be NYU

@GHE-bv1pf

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetruth5635 No, this guy is definitely not smart enough to get into NYU. No one with half brain will get 163k degree that has expected income of less than 30k.

@agiagiagi6553

4 жыл бұрын

@@GHE-bv1pf well, nobody said it went to tuition and basics. It's rather life style which made the number

@arnaudd9768

4 жыл бұрын

@@agiagiagi6553 I agree. Playboy lifestyle plus high cost renting in NY

@costco_pizza

4 жыл бұрын

@@GHE-bv1pf Not smart enough to get into NYU? Think of it this way John, this man makes $29k a year. Do you want to know where that puts him? In the top 16% of income earners, in the COUNTRY. You read that correctly. If you make $29k a year you are a top 16 percenter. This young man will be able to pay off this debt and be on his way to becoming a millionaire in no time.

5 week long welding certificate will lead to 100k in 3 years. Stop trying to force life on your want to lift weights. Get a trade.

@Mechulus

4 жыл бұрын

This. ^^ I have no college education and make 110k / year working for a natural gas utility. There's some great jobs out there, but much of society vilifies blue collar jobs which discourages people from pursuing some legitimately great jobs. Such a shame - this guy is going to be broke his whole life.

@brendennimmonsjr.6692

4 жыл бұрын

Anon Ymous absolutely. My mom told my little brother you don’t want people to know you work as a collision repair owner. Like what, people get into accidents every second!!!

@Mechulus

4 жыл бұрын

@@gb9719 California.

@codedirtytome7178

3 жыл бұрын

@Someone Andnoone just about any community college

@3ofus135

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mechulus G B didn't ask where you live. LOL.

My brotherwho hated school and didnt make it out of highscool makes 200,000k a year with his business. SCHOOL IS NOT ALWAYS THE answer. You need AMBITION !

@jadinmosley7124

3 жыл бұрын

finally somebody with common sense, college was for ppl growing up in the 80’s and 90’s trying to make a better life cause it was harder to make money but now it’s easy to make money without college but ppl still in a ignorant mindset.... it’s sad

You can’t honorably take care of others if you are worried about paying your bills. I agree.

I make 6 figures and my $73k in student loan has me stressed out. I can't even imagine what this guy is going through.

@johncam8420

4 жыл бұрын

what do you do that makes 6 figures graduating?

@iwillsurvive1335

4 жыл бұрын

@@johncam8420 Accounting. I've been out of school for years.

@tyrese6994

4 жыл бұрын

73k for an accounting degree? You had to go to expensive private school

@iwillsurvive1335

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyrese6994 it includes my bachelor's and master's degree. Plus, I used to live off of the loans taking more than I needed for school. Plus, interest..

"You cannot honourably and with dignity take care of clients if you're worried about paying your bills. You can't bring your full self to that." Now, that's DEEP! 👌🏽

@Somuchcooleronline1

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, it's just common sense.

@Somtico

4 жыл бұрын

@@Somuchcooleronline1 doesn't make it shallow.

Most AMERICANS live like this! Trust me! 1.7 Trillion Student Loan Debt!!!

@brianbest6097

4 жыл бұрын

@Waldo Mcfly And i hate to say it at his age that's when your income should be at least 80 to 100k

@lizzienganga4008

4 жыл бұрын

Most?

@GARNET-DAGGER-FF9

4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure most people dont make less then 30k with over 100k of student loan debt dude

@roolyfe

4 жыл бұрын

こんにちは your a dolt! China 🇨🇳 flu 🤒

@naalynmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow

Get a CDL become a truck driver mate ...couple of years and you will be debt free maybe even can save a good deposit for a property and then go back to your fitness work if you still want to

@1AMYPTURNER

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! He can personal train on the side.

@ImRunningazoo

4 жыл бұрын

These clowns will never learn

@aolvaar8792

4 жыл бұрын

A dying profession, Automated Self-Driving Road Train, non stop 24 hours a day

@damarawarren48

4 жыл бұрын

A Olvaar that will never happen, don’t believe everything you read online.

@zevlove612

4 жыл бұрын

@@aolvaar8792 i hope you are not one of those who sold everything fearing Y2K

He could become a PE teacher with a little schooling and still be a trainer. His income could increase.

@ercokatty

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not aware of any state where a teacher doesn’t need a Bachelors degree at a minimum.

@Matty-mg9tf

Жыл бұрын

@@ercokatty Another 200K in debt incoming!!

@dhenderson319

Жыл бұрын

@@Sawautha he said he lives in West Virginia

This is so sad. I was a personal trainer, took a course, got certified and worked side by side with an experienced trainer to learn more about fitness and nutrition. The cost was less than $250 to get certified at the time. It took time to build up my clientele, but I made decent money and wasn't strapped with student loan debt. Good luck to this guy.

@bee12355

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, so I don’t understand why he went this route. Couldn’t someone tell him No.

What’s sad is that he could’ve gone straight through ACE and earned a certificate for $1299. Then simply taken the exam. Probably would not have been more than $2K total.

I went to college with people like this. They took/maxed-out every student loan available to them along with every credit card to live big while going to school with the attitude of I'll pay in back when I get out and get a "good" job. After they graduated, reality hits them in the face, they call people like Dave wanting sympathy or end up doing something illegal. I don't blame the government for all the student loan dept -- I blame the people who took them out with no realistic idea of how to ever pay them off.

What is he doing now that gyms are closed? Sallie Mae/Navient will forever haunt my dreams. I was waiting for him to say delivery pizzas. Lol

Calls like these make me glad I actually RESEARCHED my future degree before committing myself to debt. As soon as this COVID thing passes I have a check ready to pay off my loans in full.

@jonanna8516

4 жыл бұрын

WillieRayPR - that’s fantastic news. Congratulations 🥳

@mzstacystacks3168

4 жыл бұрын

WillieRayPR check from your job? What degree do you have

@cgasucks

4 жыл бұрын

Smart move...

@blackbutterfly233ify

2 жыл бұрын

You can pay it off now

My heart is broken for this gentlemen. The "educators" are crooks! I am hoping his life improves.

He's got a long road ahead of him. Unless he wins the lottery, I doubt he'll ever be able to pay it off. $160k to be a personal trainer is a complete ripoff. Just go through a certification program.

@artcamera5514

4 жыл бұрын

What's really sad is that there're plenty of foolish 18 year olds about to make the same mistake.

@johnulcer

4 жыл бұрын

He can pay it off if he increases his income. Even if he just doubles it to $60k/yr and lives on $30k, that's $30k/yr toward debt. Eight years. A long time, but not impossible.

@joecurran2811

4 жыл бұрын

Its worse than a rip-off - absolute scam.

A college degree is not required to be a certified personal trainer.

There should be a federal law the requires all college majors to print out a piece of paper that says 1) what the loan is, 2) what the payments are, 3) what the expected income is, and 4) an overview of the general risk they are taking (e.g. high, medium, low).

@Theavantamistique

3 жыл бұрын

Won’t happen. People need to RESEARCH before spending on a degree

@chelsicheyenne

6 ай бұрын

As someone who teaches in colleges and requires my students to do this exact assignment, it won't work bc they won't listen. I had a student tell me the other day she will make 90k as a preschool teacher when she graduates. I said stop looking at the top 1% of preschool teachers out in NYC somewhere and look what entry level locals make. She wouldn't listen to me at all. Just rolled her eyes like I knew nothing at all.

It's really sad no one told him he can be a trainer without this degree. This is where parents and experienced workers failed millennials. It was really shoved down our throats to attend college no matter what. Many walk away with a salary not worth what we paid to get the degree. I know so many New Yorkers with his same story. No guidance just attend school and get a degree. Sad. Those numbers are sad.

@555NIKKI555

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. In high school, teachers and councilors all encouraged us to go because it was "good debt," and we'd earn more in the long run. It was really terrible advice because they didn't realize how much the world had changed from their time as young adults.

@danielrn133

10 ай бұрын

Ofcourse "its someone else's fault". Until people start taking account for their idiotic decisions then it will never change.

@danielrn133

8 ай бұрын

How do you know mo one told him? A lot of people so insane stuff. He clearly borrowed a ton in "living expenses". No bachelors degrees costs 163,000 in tuition. He also may have wanted to get a job maybe at a university or sports team and realize he is a horrible candidate.

@ghostie7790

7 ай бұрын

It happen to me too. 60k for an arts degree. I’m working on getting my income up but it’s hard. Things gonna turn around though, I’ve got many pots on the burner. It’s been a long journey. So tired.

@MiraMira0ntheWall

7 ай бұрын

@@ghostie7790 You got this. Keep pushing! 💪🏾

This is crazy . So sad . 29,000 in New York is insane . Hopefully he gets the help he needs .

@Cookieboy70

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't even think it was possible. Even unemployment has to pay way higher than that

@scaldon2

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cookieboy70 agreed that salary is extremely low . Especially living in New York.

@costco_pizza

4 жыл бұрын

@@scaldon2 Now wait a second scaldon2. This fellow makes $29k a year. Do you want to know where that puts him? In the top 16% of income earners, in the COUNTRY. You read that correctly. If you make $29k a year you are a top 16 percenter. This young man will be able to pay off this debt and be on his way to becoming a millionaire in no time.

@Unkuuu

4 жыл бұрын

He lives in West Virginia

@godofnil6644

4 жыл бұрын

Arun Provide reference please

My uncle was a head personal trainer at the bliss gym in W hotel NYC, he would work from 6 am to 11 am and be done for the day. Charge 200 an hour and he would make over 100k a year. Not an easy route but wanted to share. Good luck !

@turborun2345

4 жыл бұрын

I want to be a personal train and that's what I'm looking for, not gonna be easy I know but that's part of it

@NinaRossBusiness

4 жыл бұрын

When I was younger, I opened a private studio and made $100K NET. My good friend made even more! It can be done but it takes a lot of hard work.

@barneystn7521

4 жыл бұрын

He can start his own class, design different customized work out routines, put it all on a KZread channel and still give private sessions to NY millionaires... He can make it unless training is not his thing. Good luck to him

@anitaknight3915

4 жыл бұрын

@@barneystn7521 Yeah and right now they could offer fitness workouts and personal training sessions online since people are stuck at home since gyms are closed.

@foreigncreations1793

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’d do this, you can make a ton more too.

This comment section is ALWAYS full condescending “rich people.” I don’t understand how everyone parrots the same invective on all videos with people make less the 1 mill. You guys need to calm down 74% of people in the US live paycheck for a reason. And they are gonna call in for advice.

He needs to hook up with AMS. He was a personal trainer in NY and made close to $200k.

@Rooot-username

4 жыл бұрын

Ams is on his purpose big time. He definitely needs some guidance

@ZukoTheShinigami

4 жыл бұрын

Sleazeball Gang in the MFing building!

@fbhaze7446

4 жыл бұрын

lol first person I thought of

@kwameghana5369

4 жыл бұрын

untouchable360x AMS makes more money from KZread I guess not the personal training

@angellorenzoa

4 жыл бұрын

untouchable360x Thought about that too. The degree is not worth it. No guidance is needed. Here’s the blueprint. 1) Read the NASM BOOK 2) Read books on sales 3)Walk in to the busiest gym and demand an interview 4)build your clients 5)take those clients and train them on the side 6) repeat 4 & 5.

He is no different to the millions of Americans who have studied for a degree and then get a low paying job with no chance of paying it back very 😔

@anadebeljak9528

4 жыл бұрын

I researched how much I will make after school but unfortunately google was wrong.

@yeyem6678

2 жыл бұрын

Bec they picked a career thats not in demand.. they picked a career bec they like it.

Maybe he can start a youtube/twitch channel? There are a lot of people working from home who cannot go to the gym because of the shelter at-home orders. He could provide a service there.

@Theavantamistique

3 жыл бұрын

KZread is not as profitable as it used to be

That school sold him the degree equivalent to blinker fluid 🚗. With being able to learn so much here on KZread and other places on the web, getting a degree🎓 that will have a return on investment is more important than ever! If you can learn the same skills and make the same amount without the degree you're wasting your money! 💸

@marcusvision

4 жыл бұрын

"blinker fluid" 🤣🤣

@steelcastle5616

4 жыл бұрын

Don't blame the school, or government loan agency...blame the one who took out the loan and now doesn't have the means to pay it back. The degree is only a tool (many people with those degrees are making 6-figures (working for professional athletes, colleges/pro-teams, etc) and not a guarantee of anything. He signed up for the money -- he took the money -- he should stop crying about paying it back.

@itrthho

4 жыл бұрын

Pep Boys has a good deal on Blinker Fluid, if you buy by the gallon.

@villafontananorte

4 жыл бұрын

The issue is that employers want that piece of paper. You can teach yourself coding and be excellent at it, but if you don't have piece of paper, your application will go directly to the trash.

@esonon5210

4 жыл бұрын

@@villafontananorte Not for personal training, especially if you work at a commercial gym. It's all about getting and keeping clients.

Love the NY accent and sad to see his debt is 1000% his income :-(

This video definitely hit home. I made a dumb move getting a MSW to enter the Social Work field. The pay was less than 40K, workload...heavy, workplace...toxic, and opportunities limited in settings which paid higher wages. Lesson to young adults: Please do NOT go into the Social Work field and AVOID student loan debt. Select an inexpensive degree which will teach you a skill (Health care, Education, and etc.) Or Trade School (Automotive Repair, Cosmetology, Carpentry, Dental Hygienist). You can open your own business or do contract work on the side if you have a skill and will NOT have student loan debt.

@PokeZamJam

3 жыл бұрын

I got my MSW, became licensed and make over 50k! I am almost debt free as well. I know the work load can be heavy in some agencies but there are good areas. I previously worked making over 60k out of grad school in Louisiana. It is possible! Best of luck to you!

@nieceylanair65

3 жыл бұрын

@@PokeZamJam Congratulations on almost being debt free. I worked as a Social Worker in Chicago. The only ones I know who made over $50k, were the LCSW'S, Social Workers who were supervisors, or the ones who were lucky enough to get hired by the state.

@celestialarmor695

3 жыл бұрын

What are you doing now people i meet who have an msw all say its low paying 🤔

@PokeZamJam

3 жыл бұрын

@@celestialarmor695 I am a social worker at a behavioral health hospital

So far one year into college and no debt, hopefully I can keep it that way for the next two years😬

@miloramos7646

2 жыл бұрын

Did you graduate debt free

@pep590

Жыл бұрын

Yes, hope you are debt free and graduated!

No Dave, he did do something wrong. 163K student loan to make 29K. 😒

He needs to get a second job or a new higher paying job.

@DrsGanandMo

4 жыл бұрын

MissPuglife that’s actually a good idea The extra income from a second job could go directly to the principle and it will help pay off that balance if he keeps the snowball effect going

@untouchable360x

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good advice, Ms. Captain Obvious.

@michaelb.8953

4 жыл бұрын

He's already working noon to 9pm if I heard him correctly while reading the comments section he has very little spare time for a second job. He needs to reset and get a whole different much higher paying job or two.

@DrsGanandMo

4 жыл бұрын

Michael B. There is always a way to start something at night to build up a new revenue stream over time A friend of mine in the fitness world with not much background on social media was able to use the spare time during the lockdown to find moms at home that need help working out so she started doing sessions on zoom and was able to make an extra $1500 since the first of the month all it took was her making some calls and asking people and doing a free class online to get the people to see if it’s for them

@costco_pizza

4 жыл бұрын

@@untouchable360x Now hold on untouchable360x, let's not do anything drastic. This fellow makes $29k a year. Do you want to know where that puts him? In the top 16% of income earners, in the COUNTRY. You read that correctly. If you make $29k a year you are a top 16 percenter. This young man will be able to pay off this debt and be on his way to becoming a millionaire in no time.

Exercise Science degree here! It’s true, not a whole lot outside of personal training. You can go for Physical Therapy which requires 6 figure investment and a Doctoral. I’m an exercise physiologist currently, don’t make much, but in a program now to become a cardiac medical device specialist. Just gotta improvise, keep your head down and feet movin! 💯

@JK20239

4 жыл бұрын

I think at 163k loans and making 30k. It isnt wise to add an additional 100k to make 60k? He will come out of school with 300k in student loans and making 60k...

@JogBird

4 жыл бұрын

lots of ppl do that and go onto medicine, pt, ot, etc.. but, 160k or that degree is ridiculous

@MrTmenzo

4 жыл бұрын

Lot of famous fitness KZreadrs making money, have their own fitness apparel clothing and supplements for sale and without degrees.

@Andy-py8sz

4 жыл бұрын

You can't just "go' to physical therapy school. The acceptance rate is only around 10%. You better hope you have an outstanding gpa.

@yayyareaa2997

4 жыл бұрын

Andy yep

Dave I really like his you give advise to make all of these debt manageable and payable!

A lot resonated with me in this call. I got my Bachelors in Social Work and have almost a decade of experience. Now I have my Master's in counseling and haven't been able to get back into the counseling field yet. But I'm only making around 30,000 even though I have all this experience. It's very frustrating.

@twistedbabydoll85

Жыл бұрын

I feel your pain sweetheart. I'm in the same situation. This trash country don't value those of us in education or social work. We're gonna get through this. ❤

@pep590

Жыл бұрын

@@twistedbabydoll85 It's not the country who's trash.

A friend of mine is a personal trainer with no degree and makes around 150k a year.... i feel bad for this caller

Bro I’m a security guard and I make 15 and hour, he really needs to revaluate his life man. You can literally make more at fast food.

Man this is what I have left on my house. Couldn’t imagine having this owed on a student loan.

Now what he said about thinking with your heart and wanting to help picking a career path, this is so trueee

This is the problem with the education system and needs to end. No more charging 100k for a degree to get a job that pays $14/hr. The cost of the degree should be proportionate with what the average pay is for the particular field of work

@PInk77W1

4 жыл бұрын

HomeGrownPyro nobody made him do it

@kidneycarecoaching3766

4 жыл бұрын

HomeGrownPyro A recent grad at my job has a similar degree but is going back for something useful and our company is paying most of the bill...

@HomeGrownPyro1

4 жыл бұрын

@@PInk77W1 True, but unfortunately a lot of young people coming out of school don't know any better. The high school just push college, college, college and most don't realize the mistake they made until after they grad and find out there is nothing out there for them

@HomeGrownPyro1

4 жыл бұрын

@@kidneycarecoaching3766 That is nice of the company you work for to do

Dave's best advice to the caller: PAY IT!!! Next caller.

Parents need to educate their kids about debt and how much time it would take to pay off student loans.

Makes no sense that these colleges charge 60000 to over 100000 for degrees in careers that only pay 25000 to 35000 a year.

How do you accumulate this much debt studying to be a personal trainer??! He had to be maxing out his loans each semester, and living his best life! This is my only concern about bailouts for student loans, because just like these corporations, they'll continue to make such ridiculous choices.

@kidneycarecoaching3766

4 жыл бұрын

millertoyal which is code for drinking, traveling and probably eating out...

I have the same degree and there are many different career paths from being a personal trainer. I would recommend either health consulting or medical device sales.

I’m in nursing school and my parents still insisted that I go to community college so I’m not in so much debt when I graduate. Thank god I listened to them. I’ll be making around $70,000 with only $20,000 on debt

@manunes4598

4 жыл бұрын

A nurse makes 70.000?

@jellybeans9283

4 жыл бұрын

Manu Nes they do here in Canada

@marvenn9878

4 жыл бұрын

@Manu Nes Yes, an RN nurse makes around $70,000 (at least) in most places in the U.S

@manunes4598

4 жыл бұрын

@@marvenn9878 wow, my gf is nurse and makes with night shifts max 2500 euro each month. Bhr thats not bad in germany. But i mean after tax. Before tax is around 3200 euro each month. Still way less 😂

He had high student loans from the beginning, but he's probably not even paying enough to cover the interest. I bet he owes more now than when he graduated. Good luck to him.

His degree should have included a business course .

For New York, getting income up would completely change his situation

@armandol1826

4 жыл бұрын

*for anywhere

that poor guy..

@costco_pizza

4 жыл бұрын

@@dchex23 Not dumb or poor. You guys need to take a step back and realize this man makes $29k a year. Do you want to know where that puts him? In the top 16% of income earners, in the COUNTRY. Let me repeat that for you. If you make $29k a year you are a top 16 percenter. This young man will be able to pay off this debt and be on his way to becoming a millionaire in no time.

@esonon5210

4 жыл бұрын

@@costco_pizza lol

@EwYoureCringe

4 жыл бұрын

Arun the median income is ~50k, how does that make him in the top 16%? Also he’s living in a very expensive area...

It’s a ridiculous degree, my son’s GF has 150k in loans for the same major. She borrowed every nickel for 4+ years rent, car, classes, books now I fear for their future. Why don’t people weigh $ verses investment?

People need to look up what their degree can do and the salary they can make in certain fields with their degree. That is insane.

I went through undergrad and an mba on loans and didn't get anywhere near 163K. Good grief. 29k is not a salary, that's a part time job. This poor guy needs to find a new career.

I know a dude that 35 and attorneys with 300k student loan making 45k a yr!!

@ChrisMFlorida

4 жыл бұрын

That's the way to do it.

Maybe at 28, it wouldn't feel so bad but at 35, that clock is ticking.

i think there should be more pressure on colleges and university to help students find jobs once finished , the community college in my city has a bar on campus , doesnt it make more sense to maybe use that space for some kind of a place agency to help students finds once finished and during school

@angielo8070

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's time for people to wake up and do your own research about the career you want to go to. Now days with all the info you need you can find for free online, and ask questions a lot of questions before you take out the loan.

@rayn1ful

4 жыл бұрын

@@angielo8070 good point , how can anyone justify bar without at least something to help students find jobs once finished , now for me i am not a drinker so i have no use for a bar.

Aged 35 😯 $163K Student Debt 🤦🏾‍♀️ From New York 😊 Makes $29K ☠️

This guy ia probably the cheapest personal trainer ever. I just googled the national average is $40-$70 per hour. He needs to charge more.

@esonon5210

4 жыл бұрын

Looking at national average is useless because it factors in the different costs of living throughout the US. He lives in an area where the COL is really low so his wages will be too.

thinking with your heart and not doing the math with it. that was amazing amazing amazing advice

Mcdonalds employees in nyc make more than 29k. Something is off here, he says he makes $14 an hour, minimum wage in nyc is 15

@Purpleeyes92

4 жыл бұрын

He might live in NY state. Their hourly wage is lower.

@thisizdub

4 жыл бұрын

He lives in VA

@kat-oe7gb

4 жыл бұрын

He lives and went to school in West Virginia

The only degrees worth pursing that pays good money is STEM degrees. Unfortunately, many people go to college for fluff degrees.

I think there should be a freshman level course on personal finance. It should require you to run the numbers on what you can expect to make as a return on investment on your fees. That is what an education should be: an investment.

School ripped him off, but it's too late for that argument. He can start his own class, design different customized work out routines, put it all on a KZread channel and still give private sessions to NY millionaires... He can make it unless training is not his thing. Good luck to him

I feel terrible for that guy. Given the current conditions with COVID it makes it even harder. Once things get better he will have to charge more. There are plenty of personal trainers charging $50+ and hour. Why can’t he?

@esonon5210

4 жыл бұрын

because he's in west virginia where the cost of iving is very low. he wouldn't any clientele if he charged that much.

Why is that doctor still sitting there nodding?

@brianbest6097

4 жыл бұрын

No offense but what is he doing there this is finance. Nothing to do with medicine or psychology

@blink56k

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianbest6097 Mostly because good finances are tied to the psychology of good financial behavior (delaying gratification, making wise choices, setting boundaries with yourself and others).

He should start a fitness KZread channel and take on online coaching clients. Also start social media accounts in this genre to monetize this career.

Personally I think my man took student loans on 10 different majors in college before he decided to be a trainer because it doesn’t add up or make sense I have a friend of mine who is a trainer you can get certified to be a trainer in less than a year all you need is a CPR certification and a couple of course in a community college that would cost you 6K tops and then take the exam that they require, he’s not being fully honest, Law school graduates finish school with an average student loan debt of 150000

Being a native WV...This is just a bad business. Open a window washing business. Much better money.

We graduated with student loan debt after medical and dental school, and our primary goal was to attack down our loans as fast as possible. During training we invested in Roth IRA and contributions to 401K, working in the side we where able to pay a large portion each month to student loans and knock down our Principle. Right now may be a great time to refinance student loans or even call your servicer and make sure the CARES act was implemented for federal student loans or call and discuss option on private loans! Get them out of the way!! That’s a true investment in the long run!

NO DISRESPECT !!! THIS GUY TOOK THE WRONG CLASSES. CAN SOMEONE TEACH THIS GUY MATH ?

Well at Least they are in forbearance until September but man that’s a tough run ahead!

Military officer. Go for it. You’re already in shape. They have huge educational incentives including loan repayments up to $50k plus income stability, nice salaries and increases, and a good pension. Go in at 35 and retire at 55.

@tiffanyalvarez1363

4 жыл бұрын

Can I enlist I'm 36?

@Jay-om8gr

4 жыл бұрын

TIFFANY ALVAREZ the normal limit is 35 unless you’re a doc or lawyer or some other highly valued professional. But... you can easily get an age waiver being just a year over. Army will be more willing to give the waiver than the other branches.

*Find a part time job or start a side hustle.* 😉

In my opinions, our caller was ripped off to become a personal trainer. It cost too much for him. Second, his income is way to low, personal trainer can make easy money in addition to their part-time job. He should be making 60k and above. I hope he finds a way out.

Most people that I know that have that degree went to physical therapy school. I went to physical therapist assistant school and paid out of pocket, lots of my classmates got loans. That’s just crazy !!

I just dont understood why we think we have to go into DEBT to become successful

First step of thinking about going to college is do research and that doesn't mean go to the school website and see what they say how much that career makes.

Alternative teacher certification. Become a coach, pe teacher. In Texas we start at 60,000. Loan forgiveness in low income areas.

This is the perfect example of the biggest lie we are told as kids! "If you don't go to college you will never succeed in life" we've all heard this! May not be exactly like this but we've all been told the same thing. This is the biggest lie and we need to stop this!!

You don't need a degree to work at a Gym. You do have to take some classes but they don't cost $163,000!

I had a department head in college recommend that I switch from teaching to exercise science. I am soooooo happy that I never did that. I’m a teacher and live a comfortable life. I hope this guy finds a way!!! Colleges and high schools need to change.

Somewhat condescending and a waste of time when he asked if the man was making $6 per hour.

@macneoh7418

3 жыл бұрын

Not really, this guy needs to wake up. He has a huge mess that is ruining his life. He will be 50 and still have this debt if he don't make a drastic change.

A degree like that he should be charging 2-3 dollars a minute if not more, people pay for KNOWLEDGE don’t sell yourself short

This is beyond insanity. He got a $163,000 student loan to basically become a glorified Planet Fitness workout coach??? Who is giving out these loans man 😳😳

@certifiedlover2748

3 жыл бұрын

The government is giving out these loans

I used to be a personal trainer with a $800 certification making 40k per year. This is outrageous

I got my Exercise Science degree to get into a Physical Therapy program. During the end of my undergraduate education, they changed the requirement of education from Master to Doctorate. It went from $50k to $100k extra overnight. I was already too far in to switch. Stuck it out and decided not to go into a DPT program. Got my MBA instead and couldn't be happier. MBAs pay out (at this moment in time) 2x fold in the first few years of working. $30k to $50k for education will net you a $75k to $100k job off the bat.

How do you go 163k in debt for an undergrad degree? I’m confused lots of state schools offer exc sci degrees.

Maybe he's a lousy trainer despite his degree. He sounds a bit scratchy. I wonder if a bit of training in speech to add some polish and finesse might make him a bit more marketable. Just listening to him here I'm ready to give him my wallet and put my hands up.

When my husband worked as an athletic trainer, he would work mornings at the Smoothie King in the airport (4am-), then work about 12-9 or 1-10 at the college he trained for, then would work Friday night high school football games for an area out here. He worked extra to make up for the lack in pay (he made upper $30s as a trainer at that time). He also worked weekends with the Motor Assist Patrol on the interstate. He is no longer working in the industry bc he has been able to make 6 figures in sales, but he did find ways to bring up his income at the time even if it wasn’t in training.

I can’t imagine paying 160k for a degree in exercise science. He had to have gone to a private university to incur that much in student loans. What’s wrong with a state school?