$16,699 Bass vs $88 Bass!
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Do y'all want to see more videos on cheap basses?🤔
@franklehouillier8865
6 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Mcbur045
6 жыл бұрын
Yes and mid range too
@trevorramey6209
6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see mod prices basses. Something like: Fender P or J bass standard; or a Rockbass from Warwick. A lot of people are looking for some great mid priced basses. And, it would be so helpful if you could make videos on that. Much love, man.
@christiangarcia7458
6 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@nickcalato8788
6 жыл бұрын
I love cheap basses!
For $16k, I’d better wake up to this bass cooking me breakfast every day
@corporalclegg914
5 жыл бұрын
Edward Reyes - yeah, man. he said it’s for V Woo Fans & Hardcore Collectors, but he left out Morons. i’d only pay $16k for a bass if it was owned & physically played by Elvis, Ghandi or Jesus Christ (of the Lord & Savior Trio) and that’s about it. i’m not a poor person, but $16k for a Vee-Woo “Replica,” does not compute. it’s 1000% over-priced.$1.6k seems legit. how dumm due thay thank oui arrrr ?!?!
@ctdvargas
4 жыл бұрын
@@corporalclegg914 very funny and clever comment...the trio part really got me. LOL
@MrClassicmetal
3 жыл бұрын
And when one day it's had enough, it will walk away with half your stuff!
@dangwancie4797
3 жыл бұрын
and handing me the smokes after sex
@Ralferator
3 жыл бұрын
I'd actually pay that much if it would make a good breakfast every day
Things that would make me pay 16k for a bass: 1. It sounds as good as angels chimes, even with a metalzone engaged. 2. The strings never lose tone, never. Ever. 3. Satan is the vendor that sells it for my soul. 4. It can buy food, bring me a beer, do my laundry and massage my shoulders after work. 5. It plays by itself if I'm getting lazy on stage. I mean it. 6. I can have wild, swetty but still amazing se... ...ntimental talks with a good glas of wine with it.
@patrickhunter
6 жыл бұрын
ThrashingBasskill fucking. amazing.
@ThrashingBasskill
6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could make you laugh! (but I still mean it) xD
@hoompaloompaa
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThrashingBasskill most of us agree with you
@GooseCrack
4 жыл бұрын
Plays itself, like Sumarbrander
@rear5118
2 жыл бұрын
I'm calling the police
The aged finish of those Foderas was made by Sandberg in Germany!
@immanuelrohy
6 жыл бұрын
Sandberg make dope finishes.
@RufusMann
6 жыл бұрын
:o so that makes it a fodera x sandberg piece!!
@Bassdriver
3 жыл бұрын
@@immanuelrohy Buzz Guitars from Poland can give Sandberg a run for its money regarding relic finishes ;-)
Fodera sounds amazing but there are plenty of 1500 dollar basses that sound just as good
@marike1100
6 жыл бұрын
Sound of a bass guitar is only part of it. The feel of the instrument and how many chicks come up to you after a show are also really important. ;-)
@dezthescentlessapprentice
5 жыл бұрын
G wait, baby chickens come up to you? How good do you gotta be to do that? At first I thought you meant girls, but then i realized no one recognizes us basses
@Snandra66
4 жыл бұрын
I've played and heard 500 dollar basses that sound about as good (if not better) and play as good as any 1500 dollar bass I've ever played, never mind a 17 000 dollar bass.
@BelmonteSummone
4 жыл бұрын
I'd have to mostly agree. To me, Fodera is top of the line when it comes to bass feel and in most cases tone, but the Warwick Jazzman is the bass I crave, man. It has that whole Warwick growl to it, but with a kick-ass low end to round it out. That's around $1,300 USD, and is 100% a "bang for your buck" instrument, which I'd take over this and many other Foderas like it any day.
@benmorris118
4 жыл бұрын
@@marike1100 "omg, is that a fodera, that's so hot"... yeah, I don't think this scenario is actually ever gonna play out
That $16k Fodera bass has a $50 Schaller bridge.
@jond6666
4 жыл бұрын
And $200 of electronics max
@adamwolfe6453
4 жыл бұрын
@68’ Rumble Bee I completely agree. It's stupid and not worth the extra money.
@crazycucco6793
3 жыл бұрын
It's the name you're paying for. Dont believe me? Harley Benton's basses are 100-150$ with some exceptions but they sound just as good as the real deal.
@mathiasaaron6945
3 жыл бұрын
Its not the instrument but the player 😊
At 80% of the tone for 6% of the cost, I know which one I'm buying.
@simonpeters5977
4 жыл бұрын
0,52% of the cost... you should work on your math..
@CarlosCastilla
4 жыл бұрын
6% of $16000 is $960 dollars!!!
@maziu27
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonpeters5977 lmfao
@foljs5858
Жыл бұрын
The tone is in the pickups and strings (and amp). With the body you mostly get playability. And of course here too, this is nowhere near a 200x playability increase for the more expensive bass. Not even a 2x probably
IMO anything over the $2000 mark means you're just getting bent over pretty nicely.
@eddiemoohan5539
4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@benmorris118
4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the hype on almost anything above a grand. I accept that is the price that they can charge while still making the sale, but there's very little I'd consider paying that much for
@QaysSyed
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say $3000
@Wynorrific
4 жыл бұрын
@@benmorris118 Most Made in USA instruments are above a $1.5k and that's the main thing you pay for. I say anything above $3k is too much unless it's a limited run or a pre-owned classic, or was played/signed by someone famous
@Wynorrific
4 жыл бұрын
@@jonesymotor Ibanez makes some boutique basses at less than $2k
Is a $16,000 bass 16 times as good as a $1000 bass? I doubt it. You reach a certain point of diminishing returns.
@learnmusic488
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! You’re talking ‘diminishing returns’: try _”Marriage”_ 😅 & you’ll be spending 16 grand every 3 months and not have a bass to show for it 🤣
@JeromeIsTheMan
3 жыл бұрын
@@learnmusic488 Bro?
Unless she come with Wooten's fingers, she's not worth $16,699
@AaronKaiMCDNLD
5 жыл бұрын
or wooten himself i'd pay for that
@kobepowell8752
4 жыл бұрын
pycoo he’s not dead...?
@pycoo7116
4 жыл бұрын
@@kobepowell8752 oopsie, though of jaco for some reason
With 16k I would rather by a car, seriously.
@tallthinkev
2 жыл бұрын
Buy some land for 16k
Further proof that it's more about the musician than the instrument.
@tallthinkev
2 жыл бұрын
I could make that 16 grand bass sound like $100, no trouble at all!!
Last year I was looking for a new guitar, ended up deciding a les paul fit the bill, and realised that if I really wanted to, I could drop £2k on one. Did a bit of shopping around, ended up getting a £600 studio. Sounded and played great, and I don't have a heart attack if it gets knocked. I have a lot more fun when im not scared of chipping the finish
*Tips Fodera* ma' rhythm section
I own that 89 euro bass and I love it!
@patrickbuzzo1970
3 жыл бұрын
Maan Jezus , i'm not mainly a bass player, i would play once in a while to let my bass player having fun with his guitar, i've seen this Harley for 89 euros, left handed, what i like to ask you, how are the tuners? Do they keep the tuning? I know that i can not pretend anything special for this price, but i don't even want to tune the instrument after each song played! Thank you for your reply, regards, Patrick
@maanjezus8622
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbuzzo1970, tuners are not so good. Bridge is also weak.
@patrickbuzzo1970
3 жыл бұрын
@@maanjezus8622 thank you so much, Maan Jezus, very kind from you . All the best to you, Patrick from Italy 👋🎶
Patrick did you find out which strings were used on each bass? Makes a HUGE difference. Every time I've wanted to buy a new bass, I cheap out and buy new strings instead. Works every time.
@trevorramey6209
6 жыл бұрын
BuildYourOwnBass I love this!
I have an older harley benton P that i bought used (it has the fender style headstock). It was my first bass, and plays really well, feels very close to a MIM P i played in a shop. They are really amazing instruments
the Fodera sounded lifeless while the Harley Benton on the other sound had chock it had fonk and most importantly it had the BONK
Victor could make the $88 sound almost as good as his $16,699 bass. I think you need to spend about $35,000.
Not a fair comparison at all 88$ bass hands down
That Harley Benton P-bass was my first bass :) Still playing on it, only changed strings (Fender flats) and that's it.
Harley wins that "poor" Fodera
If someone has the disposable funds to buy a 16 G bass, good for them! Let's put this into real people perspective. 16 G is a two year old Chevy Cruze, with 30 G miles, in great condition, + a new MIM Fender bass, + a new 500 watts head, (brand of your choice), + a new 4×10 cabinet, (brand of your choice ). Just my opinion!
@pideuhweuh8459
5 жыл бұрын
@@Rxxbass 2 if they're crackheads
I’d rather have 189 Harley bentons tbh
Just picked up one the these HB PB20’s in sexy satin black. Now to wait till it arrives and play the heck out of it. This little bass punches way above its weight class definitely. Now obviously, the Fodera sounds better (duh for $16k it should), but does it sound 189 times better? Nah. I’ll take the HB and slap some Quarter Pounders on there with some GHS Bass Boomers and that will make it shine even better, and for a fraction of the price.
I wish you would mix your voice a bit lower. I always turn the volume up to hear more of the bass and then get deaf because you "shout" into my ears :D
I'll take the Harley Benton. The Pee Bee was perfect then and it is not surpassed since no matter how many pots'n piss and switches you put it up against.
If I'm paying 16k I want it to look brand new, not like its been played for years already. I want my own battle scars on my bass, not fake ones that look like someone else's.
@toddwalker4301
2 жыл бұрын
Yup....seems like a silly idea to want someone else's scratches.
The Fodora sounds quite similar to my 1990s era Carvin LB which costs about $400 when new.
Hard to believe a bass for that money is ok , bought a 51 p bass copy from Thomann and it’s amazing for the money
I had Harley Benton Jazz Bass and Precision Bass! Both the cheapest models and they're amazing! 😍 I had one Jack & Danny Brothers Jazz Bass vintage model and it's amazing! Some of Harley Benton vintage models have Rosewell pickups and that is fabulous for the price and the quality you have on the bass, everything, wood, metal parts and electronic components too, etc.... 🙂 👍🏻 Thanks a lot for the video mate!
I bought an SX Vintage short scale and I love it
Hey Patrick, do you have a specific review video for the Harley Benton PJ 74? The white one with the matching headstock. Thank you! Guitarist here trying to learn bass to record. :)
I know the feel of an instrument is A LOT. I know. But, in the end, when I play a record, what I hear is the sound of it. I know the player is gonna feel A LOT more "free" to express themselves and put their ideas through when using a very well made instrument but, in the end, give John Paul Jones or Victor Wooten the $90 Harley Benton P and I will still hear John Paul Jones or Victor Wooten. So, please, let me laugh when I hear the $16699 NEW bass 'cause there is NOTHING that can justify that kind of numbers.
@dragostego
5 жыл бұрын
its not the instrument value its the collector piece value its the man hours to recreate every scratch i will never buy it, but the cost isnt unreasonable for what it is. a fancy show piece for someone who will never take it outside.
@zhafrantan6934
5 жыл бұрын
I think if you're a pro, and get paid 5k or more per show, it kinda justified.
@boogie3718
4 жыл бұрын
@@zhafrantan6934 i mean... At that point you can just get something like a Warwick Thumb and be a happy man. If anything, Warwick kicks Foderas ass imo
Is that the Funkytown progression at 1:06 😂😂
is it bad that I like the vintage sounding pickups on the Harley Benton more?
what strings are you using on the fodera? That's the best I've heard a fodera sound
How are the Harley tuners ? Do they keep the tuning good enough? Thank you!
i jus noticed his shirt. arghhh i love it!
who would pay 17k for that? buy 2 Wal's instead ;)
@mannishboy1
6 жыл бұрын
METZ ZTEM ---- Or 190 Harley Benton P Basses!!! 😂
@pattonPwr
6 жыл бұрын
and afterwards you can mod those 190 HB's lol lol
@Bassdriver
3 жыл бұрын
I'd DEFINITELY take the Wals. A fretless Mk1 and a fretted Mk2 please :D
I had both in hands. Of course you're paying for many hours of extra artistry compared to the 8k that cost a non relic fodera. Until you don't play one of them you can't realize what they offer. Dynic range and playability are beyond anything else. HB is a great battle bass and I'd use it rather than a fodera in some situations for sure.
How does a Harley Benson compar to a fender squire?
Fodera sounds much better, obviously. But that HB was pretty good. And not just good for the price, good sounding overall
I hear at both strings hittings the frets. Is it ok?
Though I take precautionary measures, I tend to relic my basses whilst performing gigs. Baggage handlers also relic basses.
I love the sound of a bass
How much does the Harley Benton PB-20BK weigh?
Both sound good can't tell the difference it's who's playing the base that matters
Wow, that Harley Benton is nearly half as cheap as mine!
Why does it sound like you recorded the HB bass with the camera's mic whereas the Fodera was properly recorded with a professional mic?
that opening pick sound on the fodera sounds exactly like my 300 dollar ibanez.
I’ve played literally 100s of different makes of basses, from cheap to the expensive and there seems to me a curve just under $700. I measure a bass on build, playability and sound. Go over that $700 and soon only the price goes up evenly. The further away from that price you go the aforementioned 3 change very little and more often than not, not at all! On the $16k bass I think of all the cool gear that I could get for that kinda money!
That bass cost more then 1/2 my house!
Anyone knows the Name of riff at 3:15
to be honest for that cash I'd grab a vintage p-bass myself,, I bought one of the $56 eBay no-name(probly a glarry) and it's a decent beater bass and project to play with so cheap can be usable and fun but seriously if we all had the cash to drop we would buy high end but probably still buy a cheap one to throw in the car trunk to be ready to jam at all times
The true comparison would've been a monoP fodera vs a Fender or any other P.Then its aurally equal.I have foderas and fenders they all sound great and can deliver all the tones I need.
It's really about the player everyone, most of the tone is in your technique and style trust me.
Honestly for 17k you could go to a luthier and have him build you a custom bass to all of your specifications and make it actually yours
@boogie3718
4 жыл бұрын
And it would end up 10x cheaper. I know some luthiers that can make a high end sounding bass for under 1k€. The cost of it I guess is the fact that it's a unknown bass with no company logo or anything...
that Fodera is made from the cross that Jesus was crucified on...that explains the cost! C'mon people, $16,000 is a fraction of its true value...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Heladobe
3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
WOULD have been unfair, but EMGs hahaha. Doesn't matter what bass you but them in, they'll still sound like EMGs.
@NelsonMontana1234
5 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@someoneelse5005
5 жыл бұрын
@@BigMacSoss it really isn't, a soapbar can house any type of a pickup
2:55 What's the name of the song?
An electric bass is a basic, simple instrument. Most players don't need more than two, but I have 3 plus 5 bass amps and 3 nice pre-amps. That about covers the tonal spread for me. Oh and then I have 3 uprights.
The HB looks chunkier than the Fodera. It looks odd when compared to the Fodera to me.
If I had the money for the Fodera I'd buy the Harley Benton and spend the change touring the world, going to all the weird and wonderful open mic jams having the time of my life.
3:10 Look Aroooound
for $16k this shit better be teleport me to mars
There is a difference, but not 16k usd difference between two basses. Harley benton sounds fatter and has nice mid range while Fodera sounds brighter and has glassy top end.
16 just insane 4-5 for the fender relics is a bit nuts Still want a fodera though Such is the way
I was dozing slightly when you switched bass's.....and didn't notice, which probably says it all. PS I've had 25 bass's over the years and learnt that Victor could make a Westfield £90 bass sound like an angel, afterall they are all just steel strings over magnets.
Who os victor wooten?
I tip my Fodera to you m'lady.
Nice playing, comparison and everything, but I must say, when you played that fodera with a pick, I felt kind of violated... On the other hand, besides slight sound difference (at least on this video), main difference I ear is on fret intonation, specially on fourth string, cheap bass clearly needs a fret adjustment, and for sure cheap bass does not feels as the fodera. that being said, I agree with some comments here, fodera might be amazing, but you can find many 1000k to 1500k basses out there that sounds just as good.
@yodawg45
4 жыл бұрын
Andrés Galarza yeah I agree it’s definitely not a pick bass. It should be a crime to play it with a pick lol. But the finger tone is amazing. Still not worth the price though.
I think if you were blindfolded and Mark King was playing that harley benton bass for sure you would think its a bad ass expensive bass. It's the player guys not the instrument!😉
Buy a decent bass and play it,knock it,dent it,tour it....all thats important is the music that you make on it. A cheap bass will sound great with a good player and an expensive bass will sound shitty with a crap player.
@holdencaustic
5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@footcandy
4 жыл бұрын
@@holdencaustic But will a cheap bass make a shitty/new/student player a better player? Or will you hit a wall somewhere, where the cheap bass is just not good enough?
I've always wanted a Fodera... But I've never wanted to pay for one lol.
The comment section: people not understanding there exists a collectors or investors market for instruments.
@TheBeatle49
4 жыл бұрын
Do collectors want reliced guitars?
@drumstudiomonchengladbach8131
4 жыл бұрын
That's a true argument.
why does any guitar cost $16000 ?
Sorry.. But 16k for a scratched up bass is just pure stupidity.
Tips Fodera, that will be $16.699 please.
Cool vid. 1 suggestion. Equalize the volume difference between you talking and you playing.
@patrickhunter
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Entrekin thanks dude and I did my best in post without making thing peak
@igorvuk4454
5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhunter use limiter/compresor for speech
The word Fodera in portuguese means "Fuck"...which is pretty metaphorical given the price tag of these instruments...
Give me the $16699 bass and give Victor Wooten the $88 bass - guess who's going to impress you ...
The Harley Benton has slightly weak pickups, but otherwise it sounds pretty damn nice
Showpiece is just a showpiece. You wanna play - just take anything and play.
How did they 'age' the 16k's hardware?
@patrickhunter
6 жыл бұрын
Shit Poster Bryce Actually if I remember correctly, Sandberg did the relicing!
@shitposterbryce3385
6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Hunter Huh, I'll have to look into that. Thanks.
The more expensive bass had a softer, more rounded sound to it, but that doesn't make the cheap bass bad by default. The cheap bass is plenty serviceable, and would be perfect for a beginner who's dipping their toes into playing bass. Honestly, the difference isn't so vast that I'd write off the cheap bass all together at all.
Just drop some good pickups into the cheap bass, and file the sharp fret ends and you have a player
I didn't notice significant difference, i think the pickups and the strings (type and fresh) can make a lot of difference in sound than the other hardware in a bass. And you can compare the bridge pickup to neck pickup as if they were different instruments and think "oh the second one has a much fuller sound, the low end is awesome" I think a lot of people listen with the eyes. The quality on an instrument it's founded in the precission, durability and confort and it can take a lot of money because of the human work needed. Also the price positioning exits. I suggest you to make a video with a blind test of some basses/pickups/strings/etc...
Fodera actually recruited Sandberg to do the relic on those basses, says a lot that a brand with a reputation like Fodera recruited Sandberg, although in my opinion their relic’ing techniques are the most realistic and the best in the world
@holdencaustic
5 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people pay for relic jobs. It's like buying an mma title belt while never stepping into the ring. Just...dumb
@TheBeatle49
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer to ruin my guitars myself.
The cheaper p-bass has more life in it actually, amazing. How can one justify the Fodera price when it sounds so flat and dull? Great vid btw.
And that HB sounds like my grandmother hanging washed clothes on the wire to dry
Every little ding and scratch is like Victor's - until Victor drops his down a flight of stairs introducing a whole new set of dings and rendering your 16K purchase not so authentic- Ha!
any manufacturer that charges 16,000 or even 6,000 for a guitar is guilty of ripoff
Well, so I found that my bass is not too shity as I thought
Is it weird that im just not a fan of how the Fodera sounds/looks? I wouldnt even spend $500 on it
3.11-3.15 3.20-3.25 Look Around - RHCP But Good Sounds Tone Bass
The thing is (Unless you are a collector) it doesn`t make sense. If you are great you would have your own bass! I would give $2500 top price tag. imo
At first glance i thought its a yamaha trbx :DD
They both sound like basses.
I prefer the harley!