What would YOU do with K♣️ K♦ on the river? Your Stack (UTG+1): $5,700 Their Stacks (BB, BTN): $4,400, $5,000 Pot: $2,470 Board: 8♠ 7♣️ 6♣️ 8♥ 2♠ BB checks A) Check B) Bet $1,000 C) Bet $2,000 D) Bet $5,700 (all in)

@timothydemeyere9159

3 жыл бұрын

A Check

@juanfruhwirth5524

3 жыл бұрын

Check, after betting twice

@edforbes1563

3 жыл бұрын

Check fold. In disgust lol.

@jordanlewisbaker

3 жыл бұрын

i actually predicted QQ here

@tobibatt4731

3 жыл бұрын

Check, allow the missed draws to bluff.

You spend hours and upon hours of studying ranges, relative hand strength, bet sizing, postflop scenarios, solvers, etc. Then you show up to the live game and fold to the guy whose only thought process is: "I have overpair. I call." Then you watch him rake in the 6,000 BB pot. Poker will never die.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the experience!

@edwardmauer7442

3 жыл бұрын

It might just be that (and probably is). Or the BB might've been really thinking deeply. If he knew that the button likes to bluff, and Ethan's betting pattern, thin value bet, thin value bet, then check, could've displayed a marginal hand that wouldn't be able to call after 2 shoves.

@killhean5042

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmauer7442 definitely just thinks 'I have Queens so I call'

@MrWar-ji9vn

3 жыл бұрын

Well, call me a whale but, mathematically speaking is a bad call after a snap call from BB, but if you think about it, knowing that the BTN bluffs alot, and not seeing a Reshove from the BB, is reasonable that the BB is thinking the same "this guy is going to try to steal the pot", so in that river i'd try to block/value bet to prevent this kind of situation... there are too many bluffs. Lol he should't think more deeply. Woul'd have being an insane call and insane read and call lol.

@russelltan1362

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrWar-ji9vn you are definitely right about the insane call with QQs. I have been in a similar situation 3 ways to the river. I knew the person first to act bluffs a lot but my hand was essentially a bluff catcher with showdown value. But I also knew the person behind me had the winning hand. When the player first to act put a massive river bet almost pot, I decided that the right action was to tank call because that would make my hand look stronger and ther person behind would have to fold thinking that he could not be good against two players. So hats off to the guy with QQs. If he wasn't thinking then he's an exploitable player.

Thanks for reviewing this hand, super helpful info!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the amazing content. You do great work. Good luck in the games!

@imonlyheretoarguewithidiots

3 жыл бұрын

Super helpful info we all know you won't use, bruh. Lol. You do you and next time you play a pro like Landen, don't!

@teelee4775

3 жыл бұрын

You should of jammed on the flop , don't buy in for 6000 if your going to play scared

@davidstevens3934

3 жыл бұрын

@@teelee4775 jammed 6k into a pot of about 100?!

@teelee4775

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidstevens3934 yup protect your hand , might as well take it down before the turn and get to run it twice if one person calls

Playing a lot of small stakes since 1-3 is the biggest you can find in my town, and one of the first things that caught my attention was removing QQ-99 from opponents range. 1-2 and 1-3 players do not fold over pairs unless there's a 4 straight/flush on the board and even then they sometimes pay off.

This is one of the best videos I have seen you make. Breaking down low stakes hands with ranges is very enlightening. Thanks Jonathan

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mark.

@TheDonmega70

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. I usually don’t like long videos, but damn this one was good!

5:27 "The way you beat alot of these small-stakes games...[is]...by playing better cards than your opponents..." Listen well, students...it often gets lost in hand-charts, ranges, equity-calculations, and other "high Math" concepts. Stop opening the betting from early position with 7/8, 8/9, 9/10, 10/J, J/Q (off-suits)

BB is an potentially very interesting spot on the river if he's a very good player and not something that comes up too often; but that's when you face a huge bet from a player you percieve to be bluff heavy and have a potential bluff catcher yet still have players to act behind you who could definitely beat your hand. He could definitely read Rampage for having a better overpair but knows that if he calls quickly and confidently that there's no way Rampage can call.

@lstruggy

3 жыл бұрын

Wow no lies told here amazing breakdown! BB kind of knew Rampage had a better hand given the action that unfolded there like AA/KK. BB calling btn shove there ultra fast is what made Rampage ultimately and correctly fold the best hand.

Awesome breakdown!! I watch Ramage's vlogs. He's learning, and humble. I am a premium member and would love to see you break down more vloggers hands!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@botanr101

3 жыл бұрын

More vloggers hands for sure they are in situations at stakes commonly played

@NicholasStein

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I watch a fair number of bloggers and I often wonder about how well the hand is being played. The bloggers, taken together, filter through thousands of live hands to find “interesting “ hands. These interesting hands are good candidates for analysis and quizzes on poker coaching.

@sportspokerguy3506

3 жыл бұрын

I second this

Yooo, I asked you to review this hand! Thanks Jonathan! My own analysis of it was pretty good, but you definitely provided some reinforcement for why. Much appreciated to see your perspective of this. It's good to know my thought process is at least pointed in the right direction.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation!

This is hands down the funniest educational poker video I’ve ever seen. When Rampage said pocket queens and Jonathan Little face palmed I laughed for about a minute straight😂

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

:)

@LaxsonGPoker

3 жыл бұрын

Same bro I loled out loud

Maybe the Big Blind is playing on another level. He knows just like Rampage that the button is jamming light, and his pocket Queens are the best hand most of the time and that by snap calling, Rampage needs to fold all but the nutted hands here.

@AT-bw4cm

3 жыл бұрын

lol. He called and didn't 3-bet with QQ in bb. He is passive, not pro.

@SGProductions87

3 жыл бұрын

@@AT-bw4cm people who play passive still have brains

@edwardmauer7442

3 жыл бұрын

@@AT-bw4cm Tbh I actually don't mind too much how he decides to play QQ preflop, though I still would've 3 bet as well. The way the BB played it you don't have a tough decision to make when a loose player jams on you preflop. And post flop people will never put you on a hand that strong and you can potentially go for stacks with a hidden overpair or a set which you shouldn't have, and you wouldn't lose as much money when you decide to fold because on A or K rolled onto the board, which will happen on the flop about 1/3 of the time and about 1/2 the time on a full runout. And finally, to be fair, Ethan played KK a little wonky as well here.

Since BB called so fast, there isn’t a dimension within the entire pokerverse where this is a call for me.

@daydaydful

3 жыл бұрын

U only need the best hand 2.5 out of 10 times to profit little enticing no?

@grinch2nd2none

3 жыл бұрын

The reason he called so fast is to scare him off I would’ve been more worried if he made a crying call with action behind him

@genuinecj

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, except MAYBE at a bar league, a specific bar league where I know the players.=

This is a fantastic video! I watch a lot of poker vlogs like RampagePoker and others who are not necessarily the best from a theoretical standpoint and often wonder what Jonathan would think of certain hands. More like this, please!

This game is the infamous uncapped $1/$2 at the Golden Nugget. I remember playing there about 10 years ago and an Armenian guy who just flew in on a private jet opened up a suitcase with $100K USD and put it all on the table. It was ridiculous. Also, Rampage (Ethan Yau) won the $500 NLH Grand Finale in the online WSOP last year (Event #26). He took down $165K.

@TEAMGETHELP

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow thank you i didn't know about that

@aheroictaxidriver3180

2 жыл бұрын

Do you understand that losing $166K and winning $165K puts you down $1,000?

Rampage Poker (Ethan Yau) is very entertaining. He's a good kid. Slowly learning to fold more prudently and not donk-bet, 3-bet excessively.

So happy you would mention this hand

Watched this on his channel, really happy you’re breaking this down!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

I am not a Poker player, I certainly love to watch videos about how players Analyze the game. I began following Andrew Neeme and Brad Owen several years ago, I actually played with them in 2019 at the Craton my one and only time great guys . that is how I got hooked watching the gameplay even more. I also like watching your ways of analyzing the game Jonathan. Rampage is certainly crushing it pumping videos left and right. To you all Poker players out there Kudos...

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Jonathan, I've watched lots of your stuff, but I honestly think that your coaching strength is really visible in this video! Thanks!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I don’t know if you will see this Jon, but I’ve been binge watching your videos last 48 hours and this video made me feel compelled to comment. Your breakdown of high pocket pairs going multi-way really enlightened me. When I have aces or kings in the past on 1-2, 1-3, I always felt compelled to isolate to 1v1. The way you broke it down really struck me. I’ve been playing it wrong and not got max value. I found this video very helpful ❤

Jonathan Little the best thing you mentioned in this video is if you aren't willing to potentially lose 5k playing uncapped in a 1/2 game then you shouldn't play 3500bb deep! Equity realization definitely becomes a problem at that depth like you mention all the time in your videos. Loved the video breaking down the hand of a vlogger many of us watch, more of these would be great. Thank you for all the content you put out!

Very informative Johnathan!

at The Golden Nugget(Las Vegas) they offer an uncapped 1$/2$ game.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a party!

@denisfolcik1373

3 жыл бұрын

That's what kinda game this hand is from.

Great video! Thank you. I like it when you go a lot into detail!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Great videos Jonathan! I’m frequently winnings tournaments / getting to final tables thanks to your content. Keep up the great work!👍

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

That was helpful, liked the visual breakdown of the ranges after each round. thanks!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

One of the best walk-throughs I've watched, great insight and articulation. Thank you.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

When I saw this on the rampage channel, I honestly thought “I want some JL commentary on this.” THANK YOU

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Gotta love it when you make a disciplined lay down and that happens! Really enjoyed the detailed analysis on this one, would love to see more like this 😊

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Killer breakdown, this is insanely good free content

Sometimes when you take a stab at higher limits/uncapped games. It’s to cut your teeth so you can be better prepared to do battle the next time.......I’d suggest y’all watch Rampage’s vlog of the session. The look in his face of what could have been a ($16,000) winner was one of a person hearing of a tragic accident or having a winning lottery ticket and not knowing where he left it. He was in shock. His time will come.....besides he’s used to ripping it all-in but not for $2500-$3500BB.

@philivey06

3 жыл бұрын

Did you see Wolfgang Poker's vlog of the same hand? Rampage was mumbling to himself, making zero sense afterwards lol

what do you think about my J10cc hand from this same session??

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

I did not see it, but feel free to link it to support@pokercoaching.com and I will review it.

Such an entertaining and also informative video! Great job Jonathan

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Maybe I'm a nit, but I think a check is best here. Given the action, our hand functions best as a bluff catcher.

its so awesome seeing you analyze this hand. You're the man J Little

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Had already seen the video from Rapmapge, glad to see Johnathan cover the hand. I would like more cover videos like this.

"i cant even count how many big blinds that is" bruh its 16000 divided by 2 lol

If you bet $6 and get 5 callers with 40% equity, the expected value that you will win is .4*(24) (24 is the total pot, ignoring blinds) = $14.4. I just plugged it into equilab, using the same range heads up KK has 79.56% equity. The expected value of this is $9.5472 There are obviously more considerations like reverse implied odds and equity realization but still.

Loved this video. Crazy spot and great analysis as always. Thanks JL!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed, Dan!

I love this video John and all of your content. I recently purchased your premium package and am really enjoying the start of a new journey. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to helping others better their play in this very complex game.

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

I limped 3bet to 150 once at 2/5 in Tampa and a guy called with J3o so these ranges could literally be anything (he flopped two pair against my aces and I got stacked)

Great video. Really appreciate the detailed breakdown with range and equity analysis.

Love seeing your hand analysis! keep up the great work

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Great video! Very helpful information preflop especially.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

When he checked/raised preflop, Ethan was reffing a big pocket pair. Preflop Callers at least had small to big pocket pair. But when he bet the middle paired turn, his opponents already knew he could never have a set, or a straight, thus, 2 called the small turn bet. He should have checked/call on the turn. With a brick river, both opponents sensing weakness on Ethan jammed all-in which caught Ethan by surprise and folded the winning hand.

River is an easy fold, this showdown is extremely rare. But he's gonna feel that one for a while. Great vid JL! Benefit of small bets vs checking is paying to see cheaper showdown. Also depends on how much garbage these players play. Also some people have no idea how to tighten up multi way..

In Vegas playing 1/2 cash table. I had about 70/80 dollars in front of me with 5 others. I’m Dealt KK Utg, I raise to 6 and everyone calls, flop comes K48..I check, and it checks round to the B.B. , he bets out, I flat call and so does everyone else. The turn is another K giving me quads... I check again and and it checks round to the B.B. who bets out.. I flat call and so does everyone else. The river I cannot remember what it was now, but I decided to check again and hope the B.B. bets one last time. The B.B. shoves all in, I ummed and ahhed for about 20 seconds and put what i had left in the middle, luckily everyone else shoved too lol. I show my quads and the B.B. turns over 44 for a full house. Everyone else mucked. I won $500 from the casino (Luxor) for having the hand of the day, and with the pot i won just under $1k with 70 in front of me lol. When I raised preflop and everyone called, The table heard me say to the guy to my left that I wasn’t happy with my hand now it’s a multi way pot and that I raised hoping to pick up the blinds, it worked out nice in the end.

Mike Postle would have made an easy call there😅

@dylanr8481

3 жыл бұрын

lol don't bring his name up

@gennadygrimberg3920

3 жыл бұрын

Lolololol. That was great

@lloydchristmas1086

Жыл бұрын

postle would of snapped it off

@cedriclenners3737

Жыл бұрын

Of course, Postle is the god of poker, he's omniscient and always does the best play.🤷‍♂️

Really great video format. We’re getting both the player’s thoughts and your analysis. Like to see more of this.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

More to come!

Very interesting and thought provoking hand. Also very informative because most people who watch probably play 1/2 cash games. Hope to soak up some of this knowledge and use to my advantage at the tables

great video! more like this please!

I used to play a lot of poker after the moneymaker boom and "retired" about 7 years ago and im so glad people like Rampage, Mariano, Brad O and Jonathan make videos. Its great to see the thought process. I played a lot of live so i was more into body language back in those days and If i had the time and interest I would invest in poker coaching with Jonathan. Maybe one day ill jump into a game again. "may your cards be live and your pots be monster "

Can't believe I wasn't subscribed!!! Another solid video. Addicted to learning from you

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Jonathan. YOU ARE AWESOME! thank you for all your content

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

One of the better tutorials. Thx

Only recently turned into JLittle channel, I think this is excellent content and I'd like to see more analysis like this of hands from the growing poker vlog community.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome! More to come!

My favorite vlogger meets my favorite coach?! This video was made for me!!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@TrueDat

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Two of the greats with Johnathon being The Greatest.

I believe he was at the nugget Vegas there is no cap and they love action.

@pangaea6united

3 жыл бұрын

remember someone said it is very difficult to hit the board in live poker

@CPoppaB1tch

3 жыл бұрын

@@pangaea6united especially when you have 2 of what you want

@pangaea6united

3 жыл бұрын

@@CPoppaB1tch they could have AK in there range either player as a bluff. also when you have P pair odds of other players having pair is higher

@lstruggy

3 жыл бұрын

@@pangaea6united please explain

@pangaea6united

3 жыл бұрын

@@lstruggy math odds more than 1 pocket pair in full ring game

Brother, this is the most helpful video I've watched from your channel, and I watch as many as I have time for. Small stakes is obviously where most of us play and it's often multi-way flop and post flop. I must not be as disciplined as I thought, but I would have a really hard time mucking the cowboys. Even though I would've called, I now see why the snap fold is correct. Maybe I'll hemorrhage a little less on multi-way showdowns now...maybe...😂

Bro thank you so much for this video! I’ve been dabbleing in poker for about 2 months now this help me soo much!!!!

@PokerCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

I am checking and hoping for a cheap showdown. I may call a small river bet, but that would be player specific.

Loved this video. Tons of insight.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Gotta include Suited connectors and Suited gappers in your Pre and Flop model analysis...especially against multiway, deep and splashy players. This would impact your Pre & Flop analysis, which means a much less than 41% win.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

If you include all suited connectors and gappers, it helps you because opponent will have lots of junky pairs and draws.

rampage can't have been the only guy to know that the button likes to bluff a little too frequently. So if you do some meta level thinking, the guy who snapped called the bluffer will likely now have some weaker hands in his range when he calls because he thinks the button is bluffing.

@theodorehsu5023

3 жыл бұрын

For every big bluff that gets run is that rare time he has the stone cold nuts, then gets everyone by their purses. Given those purses were over six grand before the deal, and this was 1-2 poker, the insanity of loose players was high. I would have believed someone had a boat if not quads, especially if they were ready to commit five grand (which for some was several Months of paychecks) at 1-2 poker.

One of the best videos you’ve put out, johnathan, very relevant for people in Texas where many 1/3 and 2/5 games running 1000 BBs deep, actually think rampage played this very well minus the open limp, maybe occasionally a call on River against 1 player who is wild, against a jam and call behind honestly no scenario where I would call here, its unreal what these people are rolling over, hard to avoid being results oriented after seeing that for him I’m sure haha

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Maybe I will make more!

@vineeljonna3719

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s difficult to find a lot of good content that can be applied directly to the cash games I’m playing, everyone buys in so deep and it’s match the stack, just a request but maybe you could do some interesting hands off of 5/10 Texas live stream games

I like Ethan. He played the hand well enough. I hope nobody is actually thinking of the stakes as being 1-2, because it's irrelevant that the actual blinds are that, with these stack sizes. Any comments to the effect of "1-2 players do this or that" are therefore also irrelevant, because 1-2 players don't buy in for $1000, $5000, or $10,000 like people in this uncapped game. If there's any place to perfect your short-stack cash play, this seems to be it. Personally I'd buy in for $600 and this hand would have more than tripled me up without ever facing a river bet, much less that $5000 decision. Let the fish and regs/pros fight over the much larger side pot without even noticing or caring that I'm taking down the main pot and racking up an orbit or two later to go have a nice meal, come back after whatever wait the house rule requires, and buying in for another $600. There's a reason Phil Hellmuth has always bought in for the minimum, and it's not that he's a bad cash player, either.

Aww yeeah!! My fav pvlogger meets my fav coach!!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you like it!

Who the hell comes to the table with all this information on hand, unless he's Rainman. Can you imagine pulling out the computer and run a hand analysis program while you're in a hand? Hindsite 20/20. People at home already see the hole cards or already know what happened love to say that Rampage could've, or should've done in this situation. The only thing I'd agree with here is you shouldn't be playing scared money when you sit down at a poker game.

Fantastic video!!

I went back to watch the RP post first. It was an off the rails uncapped game where $20-30 opens were getting 4 calls. Crazy.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a party!

@CPoppaB1tch

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I watched is a couple weeks ago. They were just getting it in. I have played at the nugget. Left with a 1500 stack off 200 buyin 1/2 nl

@lloydchristmas1086

Жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching lol

Thnx man! More like this pls👍

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

More to come!

@uncannymysticmindspodcast2336

3 жыл бұрын

@@PokerCoaching appreciate it man! 💯🃏

great video, thanks

I'm a. big fan of Rampage for his honesty, risk taking, and desire to learn. Johnathan is certainly one of the top 3 coaches in the country in my opinion. His knowledge is so deep that it is lost on me many times, and I think many other people who are honest about their ability to retain and use his super deep strategies in the unmasterable dynamic system that is LIVE poker will agree. My point is, that in a situation like this hand, when push comes to shove, (ha!) GTO looses a great percentage of its weight and Exploitative game theory takes over. You HAVE to be playing the player first in a situation like this, and push GTO to the back burner. That is exactly why I love live poker and don't play online ever. None of us were there, none of us know the session history or dynamic. Anyway, I'd love to see more of this kind of review from Johnathan and I love seeing Rampage's content.

Definitely would check in this spot - I don’t like my hand if I get raised.

man you deserve way more likes, this is awesome work

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

Like the channel. What app do you use to show your channel with video and graphics on this channel. Keep up good work

Thank you for the analysis. I believe the turn bet is what caused the all in. If it checks around the turn and then again at the river. The pot isn't as bloated, there is no all in shove, and we can check call a $300-$500 raise. Would probably still fold though because of the snap call.

I still get caught up In getting down on myself for loosing sessions. I always learn from my mistakes but it sucks cause I build up a stack all day multi tabling. Then in 15 mins I'll blow off 3-4 buyins in situations like this or bluffing into the nuts and it kills me all my work for the day taken away.

If only I had $5 for every time I've heard someone say, "Why bother raising? Nobody folds anyway." The point is this: You only have to win in these situations around maybe 1 in 3 times; because you may 6x your investment when you do win. You don't raise to eliminate players (necessarily); you raise TO BUILD A POT FOR WHEN YOU DO WIN!!! If all the pots you win are tiny (because you never raise) you won't be able to make up the losses in the ones you don't.

As he says, it's not about the hand but about making money and if you run this situation 100 times, you would be burning cash calling with kk

The fact that the guy called so fast would make it an easy fold for me, i really dont ever over call, and damm sure wouldnt be doing it in this spot.

@Y49R

3 жыл бұрын

@@intrepidus3378 🙄

If Rampage had block-bet on the river, he might have neutralized those Queens from calling the button’s predictable all-in bluff.

@connman8d617

3 жыл бұрын

But what does a blocker bet look like in a 2.5k pot? Like...when you are thinking there's no way you're good do you really want to block bet 1k?

@dharryg

3 жыл бұрын

@@connman8d617 Rampage checked the river waiting for the button to bluff. I believe Rampage thought he was good until the Queens, who obviously had also pegged the button as a bluffer, called the all-in. Then he let the Boogie Man show him the door.

Rampage played the hand very reasonably. With his analysis that the button liked to bluff, I would have block bet, 1000, to make it appear a bluff would never work. As played, I'm folding and never over calling after the other player calls.

Great job on this one! I was on my way to work and used the time valuably!

I agree with you that you should only play stakes you are comfortable losing. Guy snap called with Queens, and if it folded around to us, we would have snap called with Kings, based on our read of the button. Rampage is probably sick, but he made the correct fold. Once BB calls, you can't really call unless you have a soul read on the BB. You are pretty sure you're ahead of the button, but BB is who you are worried about. Without a read (and no read was given specifically for BB), you can't call there.

Once you put in the board cards into Equilab, shouldn't you narrow Rampage's exact 2-card holding to ensure the equity of his backdoor flush draw is calculated?

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, although it is negligible.

i honestly think that calling the all in is the right move here. super hard call but it doesn’t seem likely we’re up against trips, a straight, or aces. first, the calls preflop all indicate pretty much what jonathan said. mostly pocket pairs that we’re beating and some mid to high suited connectors as well as hands like A2-A10 and maybe some others hands like KQ, KJ, and K10. 876 isn’t too bad of a flop, we won’t have to worry about straights like 45. (we may worry about 910 suited but very rarely) when we raise at this point the hands we are worried about are sets and flush draws. as well as hands with straight draws like A5 or A9. pocket pairs are gonna stay in here considering the bet he made. A6-A8 are staying in as well. all other hands are probably gonna fold the 8h on the turn is also decent for us. not much should’ve changed except for hands like A8, the primary hand were worrying about. i don’t exactly expect to see people holding A8 in a 3bet preflop but it could happen. the board just seems like one that would be pretty draw heavy for most, and considering that there isn’t a raise here besides hero’s raise, it seems that most players are staying in with pocket pairs that we’re beating plus straight and flush draws last, the river card is the perfect brick. no one hit any draw plus we can be sure that we’re beating all pocket pairs that didn’t make a set. we can rule out the set of 2s most likely as they would’ve folded previously, and here it seems that we aren’t up against much strength like sets of 6s or 7s as the other players checked before us on all streets. A8 might be a worrisome hand. but, as hero mentioned, the button loved to make bluffs, and on boards like these where the board is paired and there are a few draws, it’s a place that bluffers love to bluff big in, like jamming. i just don’t believe the buttons story in this case, seems like he’s trying to push everyone out of the pot with a medium pocket pair that we’re going to be beating. if he really had A8, he might’ve gone for lower value as straights would only raise and pocket pairs/missed draws may fold out. so yeah, i think it’s a call here, even though it’s a very hard call, it’s just hard to believe that the button really has it, especially with the information that he likes to bluff, as loose bluffers love to jam/over bet the river to push others out of the pot with bad pocket pairs

You are all forgetting Rampgr just ran negative the previous sessions from episodes before. I think it was a confidence thing because he usually takes the hero call. “Folding is Boring” is the catchphrase for a reason. I saw discipline in a player I want to win. Whether or not he missed on money, it’s just a game and I think he really learns from the losses more than the wins.

I would check/call small - medium bets and check/fold to a pot-sized bet or larger. In this spot we've represented a strong range and I'd expect most opponents to play straightforwardly at these stakes (generally underbluffing on a brick river). If we bet again, very few worse hands can call (maybe 18 combos of TT, JJ, QQ if opponents are call happy)

Me as a calling station and my aggresive style of play would have cross my fingers and call. Specially with the information that he already had about the players.

Very informative

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Check Behind. Value-Bet doesn't make sense since I never get called by worse hands. Also, I give my opponents the chance to check-raise me and force me to fold on this board. All-in doesn't make any sense to me as well since we do have showdown value. So I would prefer a simple Check behind, especially considering that we have 1200BB already in the middle, keeping my showdown value alive and not taking the chance of getting bluffed out of this pot makes the most sense to me.

At the end of this I had button on draw, including 55 and caller on 99-QQ given how they played. If they had a straight or better they probably would have raised at some point. Also, if they are aware button is bluffing a lot then calling with QQ isn’t so bad and if hero is aware of that then calling with KK might not be terrible. Just looking at the way the previous streets played on such a wet board it seems unlikely they get to the river with 8 or better. Am I missing something?

I think $1000 blocker bet wouldve been better option to fold out 55 and test the table after 2 checks

what an analysis!!

It's a great fold at the wrong time. Still have to make the fold though, in the long run you're never sustaining profits making calls like that. Awesome video man, subbed!

FJ, I agree with your point that KK still has a substantial advantage multiway, but there ARE good reasons to try to isolate: your overall range advantage (i.e. all-in $EV) goes up (a small but real effect) AND equity realization (i.e. playability) gets easier.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, but I am not convinced that the things you mentioned go up to the point that you would rather not have your opponents in the pot with junk.

I really enjoyed this video.

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Adrian!

Its where I am desperate - I know, people dont care about mirco-stakes but this is what it looks like. People want to gamble and either I stick to "solid poker" and get pushed out of 70% of my hands because people simply dont go check-check or I have to take the leap of faith, trust in the odds and go with it. If you check they read it as "he doesnt have anything". So if I am card dead and cant exploit that by checking into them with good hands, I will always face bets with a marginal holding - what good is my AK on a Q42 board if they call raises up to 5x with Q2 and get lucky with it. Maybe its a sign I am a bad poker player that I am constantly doubting my decisions, trusting in odds and ranges is so hard when they seem to have a range wider than anything. If the answer is to only play our best hands and get paid by their terrible holdings, that requires us to hit something, sometimes....But if we just dont hit any monster, how to go with hands like the one we have just seen. It feels like they are sitting there with monsters and yes - fold is the only option here, i mean we all expect straight into full house here - just to be heartbroken with their "a bluff is when i go all in and no one dares to call"-strat. The thing is, lets imagine the exact same thing happens again and we decide to call, they might sit there with trips and better, playing it the exact same way, giving us no new information (I get that even IF it happened again, the fold still is right, because calling here makes us just as fishy as they are, so I assume "reads" can do only so much for us, but shouldnt give us false security for similar situations). Maybe I am just not made to play poker and should keep it a fun hobby with friends and not with strangers for any amount of money. Still enjoy the content a lot and will spend at least an hour a day to get more knowledge of poker.

Hi John. I watched your recent livestream with Negreanu and really enjoyed it. I don't know how often you check comments I saw you like my comment and thought I'd give it a shot to reach out. I've been playing small stakes $20 (.1/.2) games about 3-4 times a week (3-6 hours per session) for the last couple months. I've been often at least doubling up or breaking around even. I think it was Negreanu that mentioned that if I'm playing and constantly winning then I'm not really testing myself. I'm currently planning on playing the 1/2 game at a casino over the summer. I don't know if this is the right thing to do. I'm planning on studying more before the summer starts (understandably the game is different when playing 1/2 vs .1/.2). My question is: is this jump too much too soon? I feel confident in trying it out but I don't know if there's a smaller jump I should make first before going to 1/2. I'm just reaching out for some advice on how I should proceed if I want to get better and start testing myself at higher stakes. Love the content and looking forward for more videos in the future!

@PokerCoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Assuming you are properly bankrolled for the live game (see PokerCoaching.com/bankroll) and you do not mind moving down if things go poorly, it is probably fine to take a shot at live 1/2. Good luck!