1501 How To Build A Trompe - An Air Compressor Without Moving Parts

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  • @huckmiddeke665
    @huckmiddeke6652 жыл бұрын

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  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you mate for taking the time to say that

  • @jerbear7952
    @jerbear79522 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Teslonian Crossover Episode!!!!!! I am constantly amazed at our common interests. You do such a great job and I am very excited that the video quality is continually improving. We need more people to find you and learn from you.

  • @xxXKillTheRedsXxx
    @xxXKillTheRedsXxx3 ай бұрын

    Literally the greatest channel of all time, hands down.

  • @codedesigns9284
    @codedesigns92842 жыл бұрын

    The Venturi Effect - Excellent Video RMS 👍😊

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital2 жыл бұрын

    Oooh nice to see you taking a wack at this! I too have been curious about the trompe hammer that Teslonian made.. cool project, looking forward to more!

  • @alantupper4106
    @alantupper41062 жыл бұрын

    Living by the sea, I've been curious about the idea of using trompes as a method of storing offshore renewable energy. With easily attainable relative height differences, no moving parts, and the possibility to store the compressed air at constant pressure in submerged reservoirs, its got some intriguing appeal.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    it definitely does!

  • @buffplums

    @buffplums

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes and connecting an air turbine to the pressurised output … but would the Trompe work in reverse ? So that if the water level goes down will it create a vacuum such that the output then, if allowed could suck air back in? If that was possible then you could have 2 directional airflow valves and a separate turbine connected so that one operates on the pressure stroke and the other on the suction stroke. Building the infracsture deep down in the sea bed can increase the pressure and reduce the impact on the environment. Surely to goodness this has to be much greener and more efficient than wind turbines and less costly to run? Obviously care has to be designed in so that sealife don’t get sucked into the inlet or excessive currents impacting upon the natural flow and habitat of the marine environment. It’s projects like these that get me excited. I don’t understand why it’s not been done yet. Obviously not every country is fortunate enough to have a coastline but even places like Germany could use their Northern coastal area and collaborate with the Baltic countries to build huge underwater power banks and it’s a continual source of energy. Britain could produce so much energy and sell it to Germany through undersea cable tunnel transmission lines

  • @giorgioborelli4497

    @giorgioborelli4497

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good morning Robert. I follow your Channel and i like your creativity. Could be possible to ask you your help for a project im working on?

  • @daniellapain1576

    @daniellapain1576

    11 ай бұрын

    @@buffplums I was thinking similar to this but using a 10 watt water turbine on inflow, (240 watts a day). while also using a tromp with a contained turbine with a controlled release valve when up to a good enough pressure so it works often enough to see results. The released air can then be cycled back to increase pressure of the water.

  • @djo9941
    @djo994110 ай бұрын

    Never heard of this! Fascinating.

  • @monkfu7101
    @monkfu71012 жыл бұрын

    Loving all your hard work and sharing knowledge getting it out there. One Love

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate

  • @thomasedible7419
    @thomasedible74192 жыл бұрын

    Super exciting totally following and eager to join the party!!

  • @orsonkart4794
    @orsonkart4794 Жыл бұрын

    Never seen one ! Love learning something new, cheers !

  • @deslomeslager
    @deslomeslager2 жыл бұрын

    If you hadn't mentioned mr Teslonian, I would! He makes a lot on his own.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol - I like his channel

  • @OKFrax-ys2op
    @OKFrax-ys2op11 ай бұрын

    Such an amazing invention

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe2 жыл бұрын

    Wow if you and Mr Teslonian got together the world would have to shut down for a day just to make sure you guys didn't invent the end yet lol. Cheers.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol - he is an awesome guy that's for sure

  • @azlandpilotcar4450
    @azlandpilotcar44502 жыл бұрын

    Yours might be a pretty good A/C unit as it is. Great videos!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    that is a really good thought mate - and summer is coming!

  • @Electronzap
    @Electronzap2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool.. Should ad those to dams.

  • @TheNightwalker247
    @TheNightwalker2472 жыл бұрын

    So cool to see you covering the trompé. I'm going to build one on our farm but I'm gonna take two air tanks to give the air a bit more time to come out of the water. Glen Martinez has a good video here on youtube.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll try and hunt it out mate

  • @ThepricedYT

    @ThepricedYT

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you do videos of your build and upload them?

  • @greatestever2451
    @greatestever24512 жыл бұрын

    I love your channel

  • @nathanharpelle
    @nathanharpelle Жыл бұрын

    Came across your channel a couple of weeks ago and man, you are awesome! (Which is a word you use often!). I was curious. About this idea and after watching it realized it's very similar to what I know as an airlift system which is used in water treatments systems and whatnot. Airlift systems use air to move semi solid materials. I use a small air pump in my aquaponics system to move water up to as much as 8-12 feet. Of course there's inherent limitations (standpipe depth, pipe diameter, and/or water quality). It works on the very same principles as your trompe. Just different purpose but same inputs. Thanks for all the amazing stuff you do. Learning and adapting many ideas you inspired.

  • @victorbruce5772
    @victorbruce57728 ай бұрын

    Truly fascinating how this incredible phenomenon was discovered.

  • @thomasedible7419
    @thomasedible74192 жыл бұрын

    I've seen bill mollison talking about this in the 90s and wanted to build a massive one ever since💙💙💙

  • @dennisjohnson8753
    @dennisjohnson87535 ай бұрын

    Very good explanation

  • @Killianwsh
    @Killianwsh2 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!! The amount of delivered CFM some of these generated is positively AMAZING! If modern ones were used in place of nuclear powered steam plants, the world would have FAR less nuclear waste material to worry about! Great video Rob!

  • @reypolice5231

    @reypolice5231

    2 жыл бұрын

    No suitable for grid power. But definitely for a farm or house by a water supply. If you have a side of a hill or can dig down, and put several in modularly. The ram trump that Mr Thessalonian built can produce a lot of psi. Claims of 60- psi on a small propane tank, to 600 psi on a larger commercial air cylinder.

  • @Killianwsh

    @Killianwsh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@reypolice5231 ​ Respectfully, they most certainly ARE suitable for grid power. In fact the Ragged Chutes plant Rob referenced in this video is slated to be returned to service in precisely that capacity once renovations are completed. They are especially suited for grid power use today for a number of reasons. 1. Since the majority of the a Trompe plant is underground it has a minimal footprint, both physically & environmentally, compared to conventional power plants. 2. Unlike conventional power plants, Trompe plants are not only inexpensive to build , but require almost no maintenance costs, due to the plant having very few moving parts to wear out. 3. In addition to the low build & maintenance costs, the operating costs for a Trompe plant are also extremely low as it requires no fuel, other than low operational head water and gravity. 4. Unlike hydro-electric dams, Trompe air plants do not require very costly dams to gain the pressure needed to function well. The vast majority of a Trompe's total head pressure is generated by the artificial head associated with the depth of the shaft, and therefor can be placed in literally thousands of locations where a conventional hydro-electric dam simply couldn't be built.

  • @reypolice5231

    @reypolice5231

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Killianwsh I see your points. I have looked at most of what you are saying myself. My comment was in response to nuclear level grid power. Ragged shoot in it's day did 5000hp in air pressure at estemated 100- 125 psi, at very high volume, dry Air. That is about what 750 Watts to 1hp? So a 1000hp is 750KWH if my math is correct. Or times 5 at 3750 KWH times 24hr a Day. Impressive but not at grid level for nuclear. Base power for NYC is 4 gigawatt per an hour. Is it competitive for local to small cities, absolutely yes. 5000hp on demand 24hra day for a small city could take the city or town off grid dependency and power back to the grid as well. But it not going to replace the 122 gigawatt base power of nuclear, I didn't think. Even current air powered generation systems require 500psi to turn the air powered generation systems. The water demands for that level of output are Not always available. I looked at the NYC dam and water shed. It's a 600 foot from to the City, with a lot of water going to the City. At best that's 12 drops at the 50 feet of ragged shoot. So the intake was I believe to be 9 foot diameter I think. NYC intake is 30 foot diameter. So that's roughly 10 ragged shoot at 50,000 HP. At roughly 12 drops. So 600,000 HP in air at 125psi every hour of every Day, if the water is moving to the City. Very impressive but not replacing nuclear unfortunately on a grid level. However this can be done at every farm, ranch, or property with water on it, and take that property of the grid. I feel we need to change our thinking of power demands to a local or per household solution and get off the corporate/grid mentality. I care about my household, My neighbors well being, my communities prosperity. I don't care about the grid unless they want to pay me to send them my power. They don't want to pay small generation. Please go see Mr Thessalonian channel system. It's small, runs on 4 psi I think and give him power.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    absolutely mate

  • @swlewis07
    @swlewis072 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robert for making this video, hopefully it' will make people think about compress air engine .

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope so too

  • @johnmurrin9734
    @johnmurrin9734 Жыл бұрын

    thankyou. great vids!

  • @cjdonaldson8536
    @cjdonaldson85362 жыл бұрын

    Exciting I’m just in the middle of rebuilding our ram pump after a big storm this will give me some more ideas

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    awesome mate

  • @TheSummersProject
    @TheSummersProject2 жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic idea, really interested to see what you come up with to make this better.

  • @TheSummersProject

    @TheSummersProject

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe some way to reintroduce the water via a ram pump to create a closed loop system

  • @ile84
    @ile842 жыл бұрын

    I almost mentioned that about Mr. Teslonian, but apparently you've already seen his videos. Nice.

  • @kennedy67951
    @kennedy679512 жыл бұрын

    I believe you've created the first Air Cooler too. What do you think? You just might be able to make some Ice with a few changes. You should down size your Piping to build more pressure. The Piping should be same size as Water inlet to build pressure. Try it and see if you have a improvement. Just a thought. Thanks for the upload.

  • @stevedrane2364
    @stevedrane23645 ай бұрын

    Brilliant. . 👍👍

  • @Behnam_Moghaddam
    @Behnam_Moghaddam2 жыл бұрын

    great! looking forward to the ram pump. if i remember correctly those guys could compress water as well... this might get an awesome journey together here!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be cool!

  • @D-B-Cooper

    @D-B-Cooper

    2 жыл бұрын

    Water is non compressible.

  • @Behnam_Moghaddam

    @Behnam_Moghaddam

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@D-B-Cooper totally right... what i tried to say is one can put pressure on water and use the energie. is that better?

  • @TheNightwalker247

    @TheNightwalker247

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Behnam_Moghaddam yes like in a pneumatic acumulator.

  • @nathancarmichael7050
    @nathancarmichael70502 жыл бұрын

    awesome! Have a wonderful day

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    you too mate

  • @Gwydion67
    @Gwydion672 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rob, for mentioning usage of rain water. 💧👍 I already was about "Why the hack should I waste my precious and expensive drinking water?", but surely today it's just about the principle. And basically it's all about the broad spectrum of possibilities to use natural energy sources around us, each at the available scale and for the suitable application, as your work is developing, presenting, therefore encouraging us daily. And to be honest, my own approach is sector coupling. E.g. even my most inefficient electric household device supports the heating of my place, reducing the part of our house's oil heating. Especially, since the electricity comes from my solar pv most of the time. 🌞 BTW: The trombe priciple and construction reminds me of the quite outdated lab tool / device "water jet pump" for generating a vacuum by use of the water pipe. I still have one, in memory of my chemical apprenticeship at Shell around 1990.

  • @ffs0o0
    @ffs0o02 жыл бұрын

    I watched a video on Amish air motors but the way they're compressing the air is primarily a old school American wind mill. I've watched a few of your videos and you may have touched on it but I'd love to see you take a look into it, it seems promising.

  • @TheNightwalker247

    @TheNightwalker247

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love that as well. Really wanna build one

  • @gazzacroy
    @gazzacroy2 жыл бұрын

    man i love your videos.. your a clever fella :)

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @jeffreyrood8755
    @jeffreyrood87552 жыл бұрын

    Great content. I doubt you remember but I mentioned you using a Trump a couple of years ago when you were doing a project, it may have been a home gravity battery. I love your build and way of demonstrating it. Thank you

  • @sebastienloyer9471
    @sebastienloyer94712 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for the next level 🙂

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate - you know me - start in one place and get hold of the principles then move on

  • @lubbock2704
    @lubbock27042 жыл бұрын

    Ive been waiting to see Rob's take on Tromps and Ram pumps for two years lol. Exiting!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    so much ro do and so little time mate lol

  • @johnguest4525

    @johnguest4525

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering The main issue will be maintaining the tromp section when the ram pump waste valve closes. The pressure wave will try to exit via the drive pipe aka trompe which is filled with a mixture of compressible air and water at a lower pressure than the air collected in the lower tank waiting to be pushed into the storage tank by the pressure wave... You could use a one way valve on the bottom of the tromp that closes at the same time as the ram pump waste valve. This forces the compressed air into the tank but it also stalls the flow of the tromp resulting in a loss of air from the water column via the intakes. This will limit the amount of air being delivered by the tromp and therefore the amount of air avialable to be compressed by the pressure wave :)

  • @thebrowns5337
    @thebrowns53372 жыл бұрын

    That was great

  • @burntimeUK
    @burntimeUK2 жыл бұрын

    was totally unaware of this, very interesting indeed!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    cool

  • @tristan4777
    @tristan47772 жыл бұрын

    On 'Practical Engineering', they've built exactly the same Trompe but with clear pipe, in their video "Compress Air with No Moving Parts! - Trompe". See how it works!

  • @herbetone
    @herbetone2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @markirish7599
    @markirish75992 жыл бұрын

    I've said it before and I say it again .men like this leave the world a better place than they find it .Best wishes from Ireland 🇮🇪. And thank you for teaching me about wonderful inventions the likes of which I didn't know existed

  • @nacnudjames
    @nacnudjames2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Robert! What about using a hyperbolic vortex at the start to do the mixing of the input air and potentially increase the flow rate?

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor12 жыл бұрын

    The spillways on traditional dams could be put to better use with trompes.

  • @jeffreywolsieffer4583
    @jeffreywolsieffer45832 жыл бұрын

    Clear Acrylic 10" Pipes are what we used, river-dropped water continuous supply and 4 +/- 2" 6-9' air-inlet-bypass breathers have done the job quite well at a 110' underground drop for the past 4 Years. Warning - there IS a type of Water-Hammering that already has taken place in our system ( twice so far ) and the location is Where the Inlet Elbow connects to the Separator.! replaced it with Acrylic Elbow the first time, an Iron Elbow the most recent.! - My guess, its not deep enough.!

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the info mate - I will bear it in mind

  • @nigelwilliams7920

    @nigelwilliams7920

    2 жыл бұрын

    oooh! Sounds wonderful! Can you give any more details?? Like, its 'free' energy isn't it, hardly disturbs the stream (and the water comes out saturated with air, so the quality improves), and you get high pressure cold air to run everything with.

  • @jeffreywolsieffer4583

    @jeffreywolsieffer4583

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nigelwilliams7920 . Planet Impact is minimal however, the design is for "Air Pump Compression" not power. . Every 33' is one-pressure-layer and 100' is 3X the pressure level at the surface air pressure. ( 48 psi minimum ) . It is cooled air in the summer and can be mixxed with underground heating tubes to a Preset Heating and Air Conditioning Breathing port 24/7 year round. . umm, you could use air-power tools off of it but I wouldn't advise it.!

  • @nigelwilliams7920

    @nigelwilliams7920

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffreywolsieffer4583 thx. Why not run air tools off it? Moisture? I get plenty of water out of my compressor tank!

  • @jeffreywolsieffer4583

    @jeffreywolsieffer4583

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nigelwilliams7920 . Moisture is a tiny part of it, PLUS it is unfiltered. . The reason is quite simple: take a look at your Air Tools; There is a "Volume Displacement" and "Pressure Minimum" that my system Does Not Meet. . Air Circulation enters from both the Floor and the Ceiling and escapes through the basement floor drain. . 74 Degree's F Year Round ( 23.444 degree C ) .. Simple, Predictable and Fresh 24/7 - nature at its finest and "off-grid" ( funny, it didn't start out That way.! )

  • @angelusmendez5084
    @angelusmendez50842 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! 👏👏👏

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Cheers!

  • @davidpeckham2405
    @davidpeckham2405 Жыл бұрын

    I worked for a company here in Canada that was going to use this technology to run a jet engine (compressor part of the jet engine not necessary) and produce electricity. Everything was going well until the the gas company decided not to sell gas for this venture. +3million down the tubes and the company failed. the expected generation was enormous! Fantastic idea.

  • @jamesross1003
    @jamesross10032 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! I have been interested in ram pumps for a long time now. Will be interesting to see how high of a pressure you can get with the two of them in tandem.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    You and me both!

  • @lulzguy2501

    @lulzguy2501

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me three :D

  • @jamesross1003

    @jamesross1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Just thought of something, the ram pump idea may not work. At least not as well as a water head pressure. A ram surges a trompe needs a constant flow. The ram would have to output enough each surge to make the trompe function. Best case to make this work would be to prime both the trompe and the ram before operation. This could be done I suppose by adding a vertical pipe to where your water now exits. Making sure to pressurize the whole system when the exit via becomes full, otherwise at times your trompe pipes will be full of air rather than an air water mixture. It needs that mixture to work(more water than air). Just a thought. Best of luck!

  • @TheNightwalker247

    @TheNightwalker247

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesross1003 maybe he could use a ibc toad on a garage roof or similar to get the needed constant flow and head

  • @jamesross1003

    @jamesross1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNightwalker247 Maybe, good idea. Though it would still need a riser at the end and a choke at the start, but would help.

  • @terranearthling9918
    @terranearthling99182 жыл бұрын

    Use a pham pump to suck the water up into a tower and then have the trompe pump fall collect the compressed air this could be hybridised with a Evaporator cooler using road salt to dry and cool the air

  • @katiegreene3960
    @katiegreene39602 жыл бұрын

    So cool

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    cheers

  • @mechanicallyseparatedspiri8638
    @mechanicallyseparatedspiri8638 Жыл бұрын

    Firstly, I love that you watch MrTeslonian and shouted his channel out, inventive and intelligent man there. Secondly, I live on a sailboat, and would not complain about a compressed air system running on a bilge pump from my solar/wind array. The home anchorage is about 4m deep, give or take a tide, and I think Id prefer to keep the system from touching bottom and keeping me from turning with the wind so we will say 3m depth, with 1.5m above waterline to a reasonable place near the gunwall making a height of 4.5m of drop to a tank type design with some sand at the bottom to keep ballast. What air pressure would you expect to see using the same piping materials in construction as your design, save the water inlet tube being 25mm at 4,550 liters per hour of flow?

  • @mechanicallyseparatedspiri8638

    @mechanicallyseparatedspiri8638

    Жыл бұрын

    Side question; could the intake potentially be necked down and used to draw a vaccume?

  • @rommelfcc
    @rommelfcc Жыл бұрын

    5:05... you've made a fexable venturi, and the feleable pipes will filling the pipe about 70% ? Then suddenly stop the water can't fill the cavity, so it will draw the air in, very clever ❤

  • @JoeJoe-pv7gm
    @JoeJoe-pv7gm2 жыл бұрын

    Me:Omg I'm going to wet myself with excitement ... Rob: "right, we could use that for...."

  • @521cjb
    @521cjb2 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of Heron's Fountain.

  • @pressurechangerecord
    @pressurechangerecord2 жыл бұрын

    Great

  • @goodtimeeric
    @goodtimeeric2 жыл бұрын

    Could you convince Luke to spiral wrap the inside of those pipes with ptfe and copper tape mate?! Top work. Great channel.

  • @sheepbaba
    @sheepbaba2 жыл бұрын

    I vote Tromphe A triumph of weather permitted trombists. Hey Robert, That's probably the greatest thing to have on a rainy day. Do you reckon you could get one to play a Trombone?

  • @iwanta69rs
    @iwanta69rs2 жыл бұрын

    i was thinking how a ram pump could improve this thank you for mentioning mr teslonians video its almost identical to what i was thinking about while watching your video

  • @ogreunderbridge5204
    @ogreunderbridge52042 жыл бұрын

    To be continued, I recon. Calculation formulas would be very nice :)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    for sure mate

  • @nigtturner
    @nigtturner Жыл бұрын

    I have a couple of old laboratory incubators if you can do anything with them

  • @magapefarmshomestead6453
    @magapefarmshomestead645311 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your mentioning "Ragged Chutes". While it has been decommissioned, wrongfully so IMHO, I feel from the tearse and lacking description of it that the power and volume of condensed (dehumidified) high pressure air available is greatly missed. In accordance to the inventor, designer and builder he was able to create 125 psi high volume air flow that could run several silver mines in the area. Just before it was shut down for good, a few engineers were able to do some experiments to see how much more air they could get through the trompe. It was amazing. Please study what information is out there about 'Ragged Chutes". Talk about renewable continuous clean energy if it were to be combined with the Tesla Turbine.

  • @mikegb1969
    @mikegb19692 жыл бұрын

    Brill ram pump next rob! oops not to self dont comment till vid ended lol. Ive made one out of copper and flap check valves yet to be tested as not sourced acumulater 75mm abs pipe and pool noodle and reducer and end cap yet looking forward to your design.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll start with something standard mate - I always do helps me get my head around the principles

  • @humbuccaneer84
    @humbuccaneer8410 ай бұрын

    Maybe it's possible to run a propelled generator on the suction part. A floating magnet in the compression tube with a coil. It could do a little more as to only store pressure.

  • @iam57yearsold
    @iam57yearsold Жыл бұрын

    There is one in cobalt Ontario that supplied air to silver mines. I believe it is still working after 100 years or so.

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor12 жыл бұрын

    You can use the compressed air as AC for your house or keep food cold if you have a large enough system. Thanks, Robert.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    good thought mate - thanks for sharing

  • @Barskor1

    @Barskor1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Your welcome mate.

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs752 жыл бұрын

    That would be handy for a forge blower. Just need to site near a water or windmill pump to raise the water column. And the head pressure (which in turn produces the air pressure) doesn't even need to be that great, in that case the volume of air it could move with a steady flow would be more important. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to make with cement/concrete construction for the supporting base structure with the needed pipes or passages, and a spiral pipe or bucket lift water wheel to bring the water to the upper reservoir.

  • @nevyngould1744

    @nevyngould1744

    Жыл бұрын

    High humidity perhaps though. Wet air so to speak

  • @stevenfaber3896
    @stevenfaber38962 жыл бұрын

    Great as always, can you tell me how many rough USGal or Liters the system contains? I source my drinking water not from a tap and so would like to use this as a method to store more more effectively, and then use something from all my hard work going to get it.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you can make them as big as you like mate mine uses 3.6m of 70-90mm pipe - but I would make a different design for use I only made it this way to illustrate the construction

  • @travismoore7849
    @travismoore78492 жыл бұрын

    If you had a big enough setup maybe you could use water to make a supply of compressed air to run some sort of engine and generator or whatever.

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic2 жыл бұрын

    considering that many other humans enjoy to replicate these kinds of projects... WITHOUT fully understanding.... Perhaps it would be more eco friendly to recycle the water rather than just runoff... A little pump ? I wonder if an aquarium pump would have enough volume !? Even a bucket to pour water back up to the top would make a great school project for kids :) Also, if we could get up to 30 or 60, psi maaan it would be way cool to use something like this instead of firing up the air compressor merely to fill tires on ur bike/car. I would def make one for the farm. Caz it's @ a remote location. To fill tires, I have to drag out the generator.

  • @eneking2022
    @eneking20222 жыл бұрын

    Could you use this process with refrigerant to build a cooling unit with heat taking the place of the water for energy input? There is a story of the British Army finding a “cooling device” in Persia that had no moving parts. Someone took it apart but could never get it to work again. I wonder if it was based on this principal.

  • @thornhedge9639
    @thornhedge9639 Жыл бұрын

    Did you ever do an update version? I looked, but don't see one... If you used a smaller diameter pipe which better matched your input volume, you should get a higher volume, and thus higher compression. Yes? I would go 1 to 1-1/2 inch pipe for the build but stay with the larger pipe for the air capture vessel.

  • @CALOCALKY
    @CALOCALKY Жыл бұрын

    Ttompe pumps explained how fridges works to me

  • @icebluscorpion
    @icebluscorpion Жыл бұрын

    Hey Robert, you actually don't need the height if you use the pressure that the Trompe builds up. Imagine a multiple stage version where you feed the water and the build up pressure of the previous stage to the next, thus increasing the pressure with each following stage. Then reuse the water with a quiet water pump and boom you get the quietest high pressure pump in the world :D

  • @atomizer2665

    @atomizer2665

    Жыл бұрын

    You wont be able to entrain the compressed air into the water in the 2nd stage due to the pressure differences.

  • @CUBETechie
    @CUBETechie Жыл бұрын

    Can I use a tank to store the compressed air?

  • @historyisfake9153
    @historyisfake91532 жыл бұрын

    I have a GREAT idea for you. Those self running water things people make with plastic bottles that run permanently to trickle water in could be enlarged and run a water wheel. Only the flow rat can go up so peltier wheels are out the question. Unless you have hight. 1m height 0.1 bar of pressure.

  • @firefox5926
    @firefox592610 ай бұрын

    hmm is that how the airators on the kitchen taps work? because they dont seem to have an air inlet? and yet make lots of bubbles?

  • @ericblenner-hassett3945
    @ericblenner-hassett39452 жыл бұрын

    it would be interesting to see if you could use that with 2 tanks and a hydraulic ram pump to end up with greater air pressure and recirculate the water. You did mention previously that it is against your local regulations to use the mains to generate power for homes so an external tank system, topped up by rains, might be an option.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    my thinking exactly mate

  • @rsummers1974ify
    @rsummers1974ify2 жыл бұрын

    I been working on a Tromp / ram pump project that produces hho and collects it in small cavities then uses tribo electric to flash ignite the gas too produce positive pressure in the line in return creating higher flow rate. Hopefully will be a closed system to run a turbine to generate some power.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @rsummers1974ify

    @rsummers1974ify

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering Thank you Robert, you're a true Renaissance Man. Creating environmentally friendly systems are the way forward. I've been working on a self propelled irrigation systems using natural phenomena. Your channel always keeps me motivated so thank you again.

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums2 жыл бұрын

    Hehe I like to give things names… I’d have to call this device “Donald” chortle.. 😂😂😂😂

  • @erlinavicente7411
    @erlinavicente74112 жыл бұрын

    Hiya Rob! I’m a long long time subscriber. Congrats and thank you for your continuing educational videos. I’ve got a huge request for a future video. My husband and I love soda, bubbly, soft drinks 🥤 any chance you can put one together. We have a soda stream but it’s too small and the refills are way to expensive. Thanks 🙏 Rob.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias48902 жыл бұрын

    Is this an air hammer action. I seen a video some time ago with someone doing something similar in a creek that ran through his property. The hammer action was reasonably loud and he used a large gas bottle in the design. I only remember because of all the small PVC pipes bunched up in the air intake.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    that's a ram pump mate - ram pumps use accumulators - we have talked about them before as a possible power source for turbines

  • @docink6175
    @docink61752 жыл бұрын

    thats similar to a hydraulic ram pump which I think could be used with a couple of the recent water gennies you've made

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree mate - it's kind of where my mind is going here

  • @bierce716
    @bierce7168 ай бұрын

    Couldn't you bleed the compressed air through some copper coils and get free refrigeration?

  • @allanwood3562
    @allanwood35622 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to see if there is any discernable temperature rise as the air is compressed. Like the idea but it's unlikely I would build one as as our sole water supply is from rainwater harvested from our roof (which works fine on our rural property in Oz). Great ideas as always Rob.

  • @Barskor1

    @Barskor1

    2 жыл бұрын

    The water strips away the heat you can run a cooler/refrigerator off the compressed air.

  • @allanwood3562

    @allanwood3562

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Barskor1 that was the initial possibility I thought of too. The expanding exhaust air would certainly cool

  • @Barskor1

    @Barskor1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allanwood3562 It certainly does fun fact air-powered cars used to exist in the 1900's and people would keep their picnic or travel food cold using the exhaust.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the thing but then I live in rainy old England and we would have enough to run it even from a rooftop collection system !!

  • @allanwood3562

    @allanwood3562

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThinkingandTinkering believe me the east coast of Australia has had huge amounts of flooding this year. Fires, floods, storms global heating has amplified everything.

  • @randc8656
    @randc86562 жыл бұрын

    So could one compress air enough to run a car? I have herd of compressed air cars in India

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi35832 жыл бұрын

    use a tesla ramjet = power a generator and also water to your tanks from a creek

  • @waynethomas3638
    @waynethomas36382 жыл бұрын

    how can it have no moving parts yet the water and air both move!

  • @simonedache3940
    @simonedache3940 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a commercially available tromp-based air compressor and can anyone guide me how to get one?

  • @swagswap
    @swagswap2 жыл бұрын

    PVC pipe will shatter if the pressure gets too high. You might consider a different material, if you are going for greater PSI.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    i used a 10 bar rated pipe

  • @sebastienloyer9471
    @sebastienloyer94712 жыл бұрын

    At the top ,, use a 22° or at least a 45°. To stop restriction on the water intake

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    cheers mate - nice tip

  • @alammd.samsul8424
    @alammd.samsul8424 Жыл бұрын

    hi dinosorus n cadilak boss...

  • @eopoep
    @eopoep2 жыл бұрын

    Could you compress hydrogen with it instead of air ?

  • @mikemojc

    @mikemojc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably, but you would need to source/filter the hydrogen at the air inlet of this system. Looks like it would compress whatever gas was available.

  • @TheNightwalker247

    @TheNightwalker247

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not all of the gas will come out of solution. So your gonna lose a bit. With air it's like nevermind but hydrogen...

  • @TazerGames

    @TazerGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why tho ?

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would think so

  • @eopoep

    @eopoep

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TazerGames because I've got hydrogen, just not where I want it, if you see what I mean. Compressing it then bleeding it off into a cylinder makes it portable. I have a feeling since its obviously lighter than air , it would always be at the top as well.

  • @kingranchlampasas
    @kingranchlampasas2 жыл бұрын

    Have you already built a gigantic aspirator?

  • @mikemojc
    @mikemojc2 жыл бұрын

    Rain as energy source, compressor tank as a battery

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    that would be so cool - it has nothing here for the past week but rain!

  • @robertchristensen5251
    @robertchristensen52512 жыл бұрын

    You could also use this as a means to compress more air in a regular compressor. 15 psi should be about 2-3 atm of pressure, and should be able to atleast double a compressors rate of compression?!? Depending on its cfm’s of course.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would think so mate

  • @intricatepeace2509
    @intricatepeace250910 ай бұрын

    How to... check the giza plateau..

  • @totherarf
    @totherarf2 жыл бұрын

    (Smiles) .... and for once says nothing! ;o)

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    lolololol

  • @karlmyers6518
    @karlmyers65182 жыл бұрын

    If I could tap into the run off water from the council garages next to my home then I'm sure I could get some mega energy going. I really like air batteries.

  • @ThinkingandTinkering

    @ThinkingandTinkering

    2 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @ClockDesignCo
    @ClockDesignCo Жыл бұрын

    Oh you're based in City business Park

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