If you appreciated Pat's presentation let him know in the comments. Pat this was so great! I really appreciate you taking the time to share this gear with us.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Drew. Meeting you was was a privilege and my compliments on your editing abilities. Not much I enjoy more than sharing and talking trailers. I know my junk isn't for everyone but the diversity of gear and trailers on your channel is one of the things that drew me to your channel...yup pun intended :)

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 Meeting up with you was a blast. I am so glad we were able to shoot this video on a whim. It was a great idea! You will laugh about the comments. Typically our comments are positive the first few days, then people get a bit tougher. However, on this video I think it will be the opposite. As this video reaches outside the Playing with Sticks community and more into the overland and other communities I think folks will really dig it. Not that the Playing with Sticks folks don't. I just know there is a pretty hard core minimalist group within our community that tends to question some of the gear we show like this. Understandable though.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks yup makes sense and totally expected. i'm honored to have been able to contribute to your channel

@annwhale4418

Жыл бұрын

That’s so much Pat. All new gear to me. I think I’ll be looking into getting the fire pit reflector … beats stacking rocks

@33flutterbykisses

4 ай бұрын

@@pat9125Thank you for letting us all take a peek. And appreciate your knowledge.

Lots of cool toys. Just want to give a note as an electrician of 10 years. Those cord adapters are nice and all but if your cord is not rated for the amount of amps you are pulling through it. It can possible heat up, melt, and cause a fire. So you really should make sure that cord is rated for it. Based off how you explained it. You really should only need it to be rated for 30 amps. That cord based on looks and also being a three prong is usually only rated for 15 to 20 depending on the gage. So stay safe and enjoyed the video.

@Atmatan_Kabbaher

2 ай бұрын

"toys" is mostly right

My buddy used to have a sport fishing shop. He often said the racks upon racks of various lures weren't to catch fish, they were to catch fishermen. I'm not a purist demanding everyone camp as I do but I do prefer less gear, less clutter, less stuff. I want to blend into the woods, not dominate them. Hope this doesn't come across as mean spirited, there is room for everybody and every style.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

No, I'm not taking this as mean spirited. I think I just forgot this video may be a shock for some folks. We have been hanging around the Overland crowd a bit more than usual this summer so we are getting more used to seeing this type of gear and lifestyle. Even if you take simplicity out of the equation, the price tag of this type of gear is pretty hard for many of us to swallow. But I see an ever increasing interest in this type of gear from a specific demographic. And I also think these folks use their trailers and gear more than your typical weekend warriors so they can justify it more. I was hoping folks would see this gear not as an example of how much to take into the field. But more as a solution to some of their problems. I think both fire pits in terms of size and what they provide would be great solutions for many. Same goes with the stakes if you live in an area where you can't get a walmart ground stake to take hold. I think the same can be said for most of this gear, minus the Starlink RV obviously.

@garretlewis4103

Жыл бұрын

It can be easy to get sucked in to all of the gear.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@garretlewis4103 So true. I am in a fortunate place with this channel in that I can get all the gear I want in the sense that I can justify it for channel research. Every summer I start off excited to use all the gear. But by the end of the summer I usually return to my regular base setup. Over the years here is the gear that actually was added to my setup. Gear I never thought I needed, but tested just for the channel. Fridge, clam tent, small power station, portable solar panel, propane fire pit, Skottle/Discada, and this year we are keeping the boiling water kettle. Now out of all of those the only one I feel like I "need" and it really isn't a a need is the fridge. I could survive without the rest, but the fridge would be hard to leave behind.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I totally get it and appreciate your take. It seems like a lot and a lot of overkill for a minimalist. All I can add is that not all the gear is used all the time. All or at least the vast majority of the gear lives inside the various compartments in the trailer to be used as needed or wanted. We tend to keep it simple most of the time but sometimes we like to spread out a bit more. The Starlink is also a safety tool for us as we tend to get quite remote and being able to reach out in case of emergency is a comfort. fun fact...we are currently about 50 miles from the nearest human in a location we discovered and this comes to you via Starlink :)

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 How cool is that 50 miles comment!

15:05 not sure if that was meant to be but that was hilarious. “I got this for $1600. It was *not* a good deal. But it’s a cool product” 😂

@PlayingwithSticks

4 ай бұрын

That was definitely on purpose. He sees the ridiculousness of his purchases, but makes light of it. He truly gets into this stuff and utilizes it in the field. But he knows to others, It may look ridiculous. He is such a good sport. I had a blast filming with him.

Hi Pat, I am very impressed with your own invention to hold the solar panels, wow!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I noodled on it in the Home Depot PVC section for about an hour...LOL I have an idea for an aluminum foldable version that might be lighter and more compact. Don't know if/when i'll get around to it but it's on the list

@AliciaInJeep

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 you are very creative person

Very neat gadgets! I like the fire reflector. I always get cold when around the fire pit and the wind always blows the fire away from me no matter where I stand! 🤣🤣🤣. I also saw somewhere in a magazine that someone out their solar panel on a little wagon and just rolled it wherever the sun was. Can’t wait for the tour of his camper.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I like the wagon idea. I have never heard of that. And especially today with all the collapsible wagons out there, that is a good idea. I bet you got this from one of your tiny home or mother earth magazines. I find Mother Earth has some of the best out of the box ideas for camping and outdoor living.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Never heard of the wagon idea. I like it. I'm already noodling how I might be able fashion one out of pvc pipe :)

Thanks for showing some of the possibilities to help enhance camping. Everyone has a different take on what makes a good camping setup. Some others like myself are just collectors of neat stuff . Always looking for something better.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I love your positive perspective here. Thanks for the great comment.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

yup...lotta ways to peel an onion as they say. For us it's a journey and adventure every time we go out.

Pat was great! Thanks Drew for organizing this one!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome Patrick!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

really appreciate it. drew is as genuine in person as he is in his videos. had a fantastic time meeting him and sharing with his channel.

I love these geeky camping gadgets. I have one of those wood pellet fire pits and they work great as long as you keep on feeding the pellets. I just bring one bag and it is good to go for the weekend.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

You sound like me! I love the Geeky camping gadgets as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the pellet fire pit as well.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

boy you aren't kidding...not only keep em fed but fed at exactly the right time...like raising a child...lol

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 🤣

Be cautious when powering a 30 amp trailer through a 15 amp extension cord from a 30 or 50 amp service. It can be easy to draw more amperage than the cord can handle, overheat the insulation and cause a fire.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

excellent point. The adapters down scale it to 15a. basically every adapter downscales to 15a My solution means I never actually get the full 30a that the trailer is rated for which isn't an issue. I appreciate you pointing that out though as it would be easy to melt a wire and cause a fire if your not careful about what adapters and cord your using.

@Ultrafrozen

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 The adapters only change the type of plug being used, they don't limit the amperage draw. Your 50 amp supply setup breaker at the post would not trip if your 30 amp camper actually draws more than 30 amps. Your camper's breakers would not trip either as they are built to draw from a 30 amp supply. the full 30 amps is running through an extension cord designed to handle 15 amps. The only control you have is to mentally limit the power usage in the camper or find a burnt extension cord between your camper and the shore power post. I enjoyed the video, just looking out for your safety.

@robertharman4938

Жыл бұрын

Much better to use a 30 amp shore cord and carry tow adapters for plugging into 15 or 50 when needed

@Ultrafrozen

Жыл бұрын

@@robertharman4938 Exactly what I do, almost guaranteed to not go up in smoke.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@robertharman4938 2 years in and I've never needed more than 15a. I'm not seeing the benefit based on my usage needs so far. If our electrical needs increased then I agree with you that a 20a cord with 15a and 50a adapter would be the way to go.

Watching them while being a vendor at Rendezvous in the Ozarks. Dude gear city! I’m just as excited as you too! Gear that helps us Get up and Go On!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a fun event! Good seeing you on here Charles.

Love my pop up fire pit ❤

Hey Drew and Pat, great job! Always nice to see some gear I haven’t heard of, I’m definitely a camper gadget junkie! A couple notes on the electrical plug converters. 30a current requires 10awg conductor. When you adapt the connection on both sides to fit the plug into a 30a connection, that doesn’t mean you have that current carrying capacity. There is no circuit break or fuse to protect the cord. Very handy to do but it relies on the user understanding the limits. If you use that 15a extension cord, you want to limit the things you’re running or it’s a serious risk. 🔥 Hope that helps and doesn’t come across Debbie downer. Love the video, thank you both!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Hey Brian. Thanks for sharing about the 30amp requirements. You have a very valid point there. Running lights, fridge, etc. you wouldn't be requiring that draw. But, if you were using larger items you could easily call for more power than that 15amp cord is designed to carry.

@DIYOutdoorLife

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks AC is obviously the big one but I see it most often at camp with the breakfast cooks 👨‍🍳 Coffee pot and a toaster and you’re there. Waffle machine anyone??? Haha Hope you’re enjoying the season change and getting some good trips in.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

It's a very good point you make. I have to admit I didn't think about exceeding 15a which is 1800 wats. While on battery I'm limited to 1500w. The trailer doesn't have much electrical need beyond lights/fridge. You example of a coffee maker/toaster is a good one. We do use a 900w coffee maker for about 10mins each morning. all our cooking is via propane BBQ or stove. Haven't considered adding any more electrical gadgets but if I did your post is a good point I hadn't considered. My understanding is that the 50a>15a and 30a>15a plug will only send 15a through the cord to the trailer's 15a>30a dongle. The trailer's power management system will only see 15a service and limit my ability to use more than 15a and will shut itself down if I try to exceed that. If I ever did need 30a then I'd need to get a bigger cord.

@DIYOutdoorLife

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 I love your set up and gear! The 50>15 and 30>15 are very handy ways to allow us to have lighter cords and plug in more places but there is zero protection. Current is drawn, not sent. So if we were to hook up 2500 W of loads to the end of the cord, when plugged in that way, we set the cable on fire thru resistance. These adapters are so handy, everyone should have them, they do warrant the disclaimer. I’ve seen people running a fridge, ice machine, coffee maker and electric cooktop at the same time… the other big one is they run an electric heater at night with the small feed cable. The extension cord gets too hot to touch and starts to smell within minutes… 😖 Be safe, be well. Thanks for the great video with Drew!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@DIYOutdoorLife I'm still learning but my understanding is that the power management system will provide protection. In the trailer review that hasn't been released yet I mention that I have the Redarc Redvision Manager 30 installed in the trailer. a 50>15 or 30>15 adapter should only show the system 15a and if I try to exceed it the system will shut off. I've used the 30>15 adapter and the system shows 15a going into the trailer. If I tried to run 2000w the system would shut off before anything overheated. I haven't tried the 50>15 yet but should work the same way. Am I missing something? Another example is my generator that only outputs 15a plugged into my 30a trailer dongle...the trailer shows 15a coming in and the system should stop me from trying to exceed that. Having said all that I've never actually tried exceeding the 15a input so I'm going off my understanding of the Redarc documentation that it will prevent me from using more than 30a or more than 15a if i'm using the 30/50>15 adapter

Thanks for showing all of these! They're all pretty great!

Great video! I always love to see new and unusual camping gear!! Hope you are having some epic camping trips!!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Brad! Our epic camping adventures are coming to an end. Snow hit up here on the mountains yesterday which was super exciting. But, we are about to go back to Thailand at the end of the month. Time to start thinking about Thailand camping adventures. We let you down the last two weeks. We didn’t buy any coffee. It was instant coffee everyday. Funny enough though I kind of liked it. Maybe I just needed a change.

So much good info here! Thank you 😊

Very fun! Thanks to both of you for the effort to get this out. LOTS of good ideas. I've been watching S. Korean youtube campers with lots of gear that doesn't show up in US videos. Your scottel/disk cooker video was great but it is too big for my needs. A 13" version of that is showing up in the Asian videos. So fun to see how other campers make it work!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Love the gear coming out of Asia. My bike trailer video is almost 100% Asian gear. And I absolutely love every piece of it! If you want a really nice smaller version here in the states check out the one made by iKamper. ikamper.com/products/disco-series/?gclid=CjwKCAjwtKmaBhBMEiwAyINuwCU0ISNk-w9iiDctg1hfcclPl0UhKhvOvp5ZGp6U2B9GQ3_8kTYW1BoCIN4QAvD_BwE I will caution you though. After using a smaller Skottle/Discada (Tumbo Tusk makes one also) I find they kind of lose most the benefits. The beauty of a skottle is cooking multiple food items at once. Once they get any smaller you loose that ability to cook and warm at the same time. Basically it turns into just a nice cast iron pan at that point. So in my opinion many of us would just be better off with a square cast iron pan vs a small skottle. Square because you get more surface area when using your camp grill.

@jennstuart2031

Жыл бұрын

Last night I ordered 3 pieces (grill, lid, grate), and will let you know how that works for cooking and baking for 1 person on the teardrop gas stove. I've not used or seen a scottle used in real time but I understand your points about cooking and warming. Just trying g to make the size and cost work. Thanks!

Love the gear review video. I’m getting back into camping and appreciate the guidance on gear before I buy.

Live this!! Great informative video

great vlog cheers its always good to see what other people are using

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan! I feel the same way. There is something about being able to snoop through somebody 's campground on KZread without getting to close to their campsite in real life :)

@AliciaInJeep

Жыл бұрын

So informative ;) Pat’s voice very calm and rekaxing :)

Lots of interesting gear to consider. Just a thought on the solar blanket. I tried this type of panel and with a PVC stand the wind just takes it away. I'm in the southwest and it's really windy. I rely on my Zamp portables. Heavy yes but the wind doesn't budge them.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I've had them in 30 know winds and yes...win can be an issue. I used package clips to hold it onto the frame and resolved the issue. The wind at 30knots wasn't enough to lift the frame and panel together only the panel off the frame so a slip works perfectly. Several ways to stake it down is needed though.

Thank you for all the info and the presentation Pat.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome. I have benefitted from the community and Drew's channel over the years and enjoyed giving a little back

These are some great products. I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks!

Great insights and tips!

Thanks for the vid. Very interested in the Spring Tension Guy rope hook & the extended tie down screw spikes. Cheers 🍻

Thank you for the video and the links!!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

You were right Drew; I DID 'must see' this stuff. Cool !

One of the most useful videos yet. Excellent!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked this one Zack. It was really fun getting to know Pat and his gear.

This was one of the best vids I have watched on youtube in the last year.

@PlayingwithSticks

8 ай бұрын

Yes! We got a lot of flack for this video when it first came out. But KZread found the right audience eventually.

Hi Drew, hi Pat thank you for very informative video.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome and thanks for watching

Pretty cool! Thanks pat

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Go PAT!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

You bet. I love to share and hear ideas to overcome common and not so common challenges to make the overall experience better and more versatile.

TRASH CAN - we’ve been using that SAME trash bag holder for years!! The thing stays together if you push the legs together well. Placing a weight in the bottom also helps! I LOVE MINE!

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe I never knew it existed. And it is Thetford, which is a very popular brand. Thanks for sharing.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I drilled the holes and placed the bungee because no matter how hard we pushed the legs together they always come apart...mostly due to...as you mentioned...the rock we place on the bottom for stability. We tend to move it around a lot and forget about the weight. With the bungees it's much easier to move it around without popping a leg off.

I was more interested in Pat's Patriot Camper X3 in the background. Seriously though, there were many interesting items in this video, although most did not resonate with me on this occasion. That doesn't mean that this video was not useful however! Kindly please do more like this.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew. At some point his trailer will be hitting the channel. We made a really detailed review of his Patriot Camper. Glad to hear you liked this format. It interests me, but I wasn't sure about how others would perceive it. Quite a few negative comments. But, the positive ones were REALLY positive.

Great stuff 👍

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Hey Patrick! Glad you enjoyed it.

11:40 - The problem with those shore power dongles is that you'd need to use at least a 10ga. drop cord if you're trying to adapt from a 30A or 50A service to your camper's 30A input via a 15A cord. Trying to shove thirty amps through a 12ga or 14ga fifteen-amp cord is just asking for a fire.

Oh how I love camping gear, especially if you make it yourself with PVC and/or bungees,

Well thought out !

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. We've only been doing this for a few years now and my setup and hear is the result of continuous problem solving. First problem being getting the misses out to enjoy this activity after that just a bunch of options depending on the style of camping we are doing at the time. On a long trip we will do everything from traditional camgrounds to the most remote Barron locations and everything inbetween. Having a setup that covers that wide of a gamut is challenging.

Thanks for sharing; it’s so great to watch a video with items that seem to be used continuously, and not just brand new & first use.. BLUF: it’s worth keeping and reliable. Thanks again and God Bless

I like the "spring" idea.. In my past motorcycle camping days I just used bunji's...

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

bungees would help as well...great idea. The springs help with higher winds but anything that provides a shock absorber effect is better than nothing unless the winds are light

That frame for the solar blanket is brilliant.👍🏼

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It took me a minute to noodle it out. I literally stood in the Home Depot PVC section working it out. I have an aluminum version design with many fewer parts, packs up smaller and better rigidity but this works for now and so far has worked well.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

There is a good excuse for me to come back to Oregon for you and I to go camping. Looks like I need to film that aluminum version :)

...cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@magicworldbyjorg

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks Thank you very mutch... have a nice Start of the week.... see you….

after watching this i think i might be a minimalist. good vid, God bless

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I am seeing a trend here. I think there may be a pretty large minimalist group within the Playing with Sticks community :)

@mrdave22

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks or are we all cheap? lol

I love my pop up fire table. I use it all the time with the grill on our Bean adventures! I also love our Starlink which would be good for a content creator like you.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a good combination. With East and his asthma plus all the fire bans lately it has been mostly propane fire pits for us this year. I spent way too much on a propane fire pit this year, but it is awesome. You probably saw it at the Expos. It is the new fire pit from Tumbo Tusk. Not only does it pack down flat. The way the first comes out the ports it rolls and moves just like a real fire. It is incredible. One of these days I will have to put it on the channel.

@mark-di5pf

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks Ill have to check it out. I have been intrigued by the Lava Box.

"It cteats a vary warm fire "😂

Some of the gear was pretty good. One thing about wood pellets or other “manufactured” wood/logs is you can move them around even if there is a ban on moving around “regular” firewood/trees due to the spread of pests and diseases. I have a Dokio folding solar panel. Got it off of Amazon for a really good price. 100 watts and performs well. I have on my to do list a PVC stand for it. I regards to the tent stakes, got some big green plastic stakes from Northern Tool. They work well in the sand and we’re not $14.00 each. I saw that Playing With Sticks sticker. I didn’t know those existed.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

That Dokio is a good design. I am a fan of any panel that has more than 2 sides. I saw Dokio even has a 220 watt panel. I have always been happy with my 100 watt panels. But in the future if companies can get 200 watt panels down to the size of 100 watt panels and charge similar prices than I think they have made some big gains in the industry. Thanks for sharing about the pellets and manufactured wood. That is new to me. Thanks for sharing about the stakes as well. May and I have been meaning to upgrade for a year or so. But not with the prices we have seen. That did look like a sticker huh? It was a vinyl decal that Aero Teardrops added to "Atlas" the trailer I took all over Oregon.

@garretlewis4103

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks In Virginia, you cannot move wood around the state due to the Emerald Ash Bore Beetle. Forced me to start carrying some manufactured (made from pressed sawdust) wood blocks so you know you have wood for a fire. No more wood box full of logs I cut from fallen trees around my house.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@garretlewis4103 That is unfortunate. But I completely understand. We have been traveling in areas with bark beetles the last few years and it is crazy what they can do. We had spruce beetles take over Alaska as well. Wild how quickly it happened.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

great point about being able to move the wood around. your solar idea is a good one...as i mentioned it's not necessary to spend as much as i did. One point though...I over solared my setup so in less than ideal situations I still get a decent charge. resorting to my generator is a personal failure :)

Love that plastic pipe solar panel stand...genius

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Some of the best ideas are the most simple and cost effective.

That was fun

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Love hearing that! Thanks for the feedback.

Pat, I like your invention but I have a question. It's on you solar panel setup. On your " T "'s on the ends are they male or female. Cause I see when you lift it up, they swing easily. Thanks

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Everything was done in 3/4" except the stands(the "Ts") which are 1" and slide over the the pipe and fittings

Great video. I do not know if the gear or rv reviews are better. Keep up the excellent work. A comment I read said, “ that gear is not necessary”. I want to live outdoors. Not have to go home when it gets tough. The gear is for thriving in worst case scenario. In most places you do not need a gun. When it comes in handy, buddy it shore pays off in dividends. I want to be the person with more than I can carry. I can still loose it all. At least I can say I tried. Hopefully you can pass this gear off to someone who will use it.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I like your way of looking at this. Thank you like this, although costly, is built to last. Minus the toilet and maybe the star link, almost everything in this video should stand the test of time

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

good point. we use the gear we need at the time...the frivolous stuff is there for when we are in the mood or in the case of starlink it's also an emergency communication device. hopefully will never be needed but nice to have if the situation arises.

That solar blanket sounds like more money than brains

I didn’t know Dr. House likes to camp 😂

Whoa. I just looked up the fire shield thinking what I would pay for that. I figured I'd pay about $80... imagine my shock to find out it cost $400 LOL

@brianlockyer6056

Жыл бұрын

Exact same thing happened to me. Must come with 300 dollars in cash taped to the inside of the bag.

@jwmmitch

Жыл бұрын

@@brianlockyer6056 I get there's machining and good hinges and a nice storage bag... but maybe part of it is the amount of raw aluminum involved. I was trying to think what I paid for my little backpacking version of this.. $20-25? And it's kinda flimsy and cheap. I'm going to figure out what it would cost to make one out of sheet metal :)

Neat stuff, but I don't have room for more and like to keep it simple. I do like seeing what's out there. And I do like the drill-in stakes, I'll look into those.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Glad you ejoyed watching it, even if you weren't quite convinced on any of the gear. I'm like you. Sometimes it is just fun seeing what is out there. And maybe doing a little research on something like ground stakes and maybe some affordable alternatives.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

feeling you on the space for sure. We sort of have a rule that if it won't fit then it has to replace something else. The exception is starlink which is a net add and is equal parts entertainment and safety as we tend to get quite remote.

@WildcatPhoto

Жыл бұрын

I'd like Starlink, but too spendy for me no more than I'd use it. I do have a Spot X for emergencies or short messages, but rarely have a clear view of the sky. I am usually in Oregon National Forest campgrounds with no service, but the State campgrounds are usually no better. My problem is wanting to take too much "just in case" stuff that takes up space. Just in case tools, tire inflator, battery charger, too much food. But the dog has nearly as much as me.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@WildcatPhoto yeah there is no real justification for starlink based on cost. i'm also an over preparer. i have gear for every situation and i just know it will be the one piece i don't have that i will need in an emergency:) i'll say this about starlink...so far i'm surprised where i'm able to get service. i'm writing this while camped in the middle of thick forrest canopy with only a small clearing overhead and it works...not well but it works. a sat phone would be more cost effective probably but then I coulldn't watch drew or comment on videos...lol

@WildcatPhoto

Жыл бұрын

@Pat I'll be watching Starlink for home use because I live out in the toolie bushes with poor cell phone and internet service, halfway between Eugene and Florence. My vehicle space is limited because dog takes back seat, so only have a bit of room in back of Xterra. If I pile stuff on top, I cannot reach. So many problems! But the less stuff I take, the easier it is to find things.

I did like the presentation and I love your channel. Too gimmicky for me means I can make do a lot better without carrying extra stuff. We are fairly minimalist which is why we love our TC Teardrop without all the bells and whistles. I do have a house battery in the tool box and a panel I set up for it. I also have a Montek 1000 watt power pack with it's self contained 80 watt solar panel and another 100 watt suitcase panel. More than does everything for us, including keeping our 50 litre ARB fridge running. One thing we may upgrade to is a fridge/freezer separate compartment unit so we can keep some things frozen and some refrigerated. I'd like to have ice on hand for a beach drink. We live out of our teardrop much of the winter, on a beach in Mexico.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

We just ran into a couple today who had a TC teardrop. It looked like a little 4x8 version. They take it out 7 months at a time. But here is the interesting part. They use it only to haul their gear. All 7 months they sleep in a tent. Love it! Your setup sounds great. And I get the need for ice. We have made very similar comments here in other videos. The community often tells us not to get a fridge/freezer, but look into 12 volt icemakers. I have never done it but they say they are game changers.

i use home depot bucket and use the lid and throw the trash inside. you don’t need plastic inside if you run out of plastic. just rinse- you can put a hole if you need but I don’t need to.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Interesting idea but how do you stay out for multiple weeks. Where do you dump the trash? By using bags we can store up until we are back in civilization und drop em in a dumpster. Once the home depot bucket is full not sure what happens next.

Nice to see a bit of Australian gear. Not the rubbish stuff either.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I'm finding the Aussie gear to be very top notch. We do now have a Redarc distributor in the states along with webasto, cruisemaster and couple others so options are becoming available.

Great video! I am a gadget junkie as well.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Me too! My attraction to shiny things has greatly increased the past few years. It becomes quite an addiction.

If you rig is drawing 30 amps, then you need a 10 Gauge extension cord to properly handle the load. Using a lighter gauge cord in between adapters (not dongles) is not recommend nor to code

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

your point is valid. in my setup there is never more than 15a going through the cord.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I have been corrected and you are right. I mistakenly thought the 30>15 was limiting the power but obviously I was wrong. I really appreciate you pointing that out to me and I have ordered a 10awg extension cord to correct the situation. The solution of one cord and being able to use 15/30/50 power sources was the goal and now with the right extension cord and the Redarc power manager I think I'm solid...thanks to people like you.

Your using a 15 amp rated cord to run. 30 and 50 amps???

4:25 Japan uses these, in many camp grounds, you are not allowed to make fires on the ground, they must be "contained" and off the ground. There's the snow peak design, which is an inverted pyramid, as material burns its funneled in on itself into the center. works good for "constant heat" and many have a grill on top for cooking. Then there's the Kamoto fire pit, these are v shaped, and the trick here is, its set up in part for cooking. allowing you to manage the coals so you have larger or more coals on one end, and less on the other for "heat control" and cooking at different temps in 1 fire.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I am glad you mentioned this. They are so common to me I forget people aren't using them over here. We also use these in Thailand. We own this version as well as the snow peak style, but we have never tried the Kamoto style. Sounds neat. As usual thanks for sharing things we had no idea even existed. I pick up our little secret on the 18th. So exicited to show it to you. It isn't done, but done enough to show you the concept.

@jenniferstewarts4851

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks Oh goody. Hehe. Its actually funny because these type of portable FirePits are covered in the japanese Anime "Laid-back Camp" aka Yuru Camp. They talk about the reason japan requires them, show 3 different types, and explain how to manage the coals/wood/brickettes. Its funny because its an anime that actually covers real camping gear. i still prefer wood stoves... because they don't count as "open fire". So in many cases with lower level fire bans... a wood stove can be used even during the ban.

OMG I have many of these items, the first fire pit I looked it up and wasn’t for me but the second one I have and is absolutely awesome, I take it to my place in Baja and have cooked carne asada for friends or just to the beach at night, unfortunately I’m in California in the mountains and they’re illegal in your back yard or camping thus this will be staying in my other place in Baja, the trash can I also have and is another awesome item, I need to try the mod with the bungee, the stakes I also have but in sand with 50mph winds I had to get the ones that are like a small plow and combine both.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

You are making our mouths water. Just say the words carne asada and May and I will be running to the sound! Thank you for sharing about the plow versiions. I had never seen thouse. But it defintiely makes sense.

@carmenmartinez2882

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks they’re kind of flat, bigger but light weight have holes in the middle and you run the paracord through the middle hole that way it virtually acts like an inverted plow keeping you more secure against wind in soft terrain like sand or snow. Can’t wait to get back to Baja between the fresh seafood and the free range beef is a great culinary experience.

Yikes. And I thought I brought everything in the world including a kitchen sink with me when I camped. One of the things I love about overnighters is that you can go minimal and still have a great time. Where's the portable hot tub? Nomadic Fanatic had one of those for quite some time.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

The portable hot tub...that is good. Nomadic Fanatic is a character. Love it! Agreed, I need to do some more overnighters. Some nice simple one or two day trips.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

The thing about all the gear is that it stows in the trailer so it's not in the way. On travels through Lake Chelan this summer we got caught out of options due to poor trip planning and unexpected local events which led us to camping in a turnout along side the road. 10min to set up camp and we were cozy and even had a river on the other side of us. Having all the gear doesn't mean setting up all the gear. We can be as minimalist as as anyone with a trailer can be or we can set up a full featured base camp and explore an area for multiple days or weeks. It's about having options and using the gear you need/want based on the situation.....now thinking about that hot tub...hmmmm :)

@mobiltec

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 Oh I know that and like I said. I always have way too much stuff for the same reasons. Options. Then I get home and realize that I didn't use 80% of the stuff I brought. Yet I always forget something important. LOL... It's what ever works for each individual.

That fire reflector could double as table legs, probably saw a log down the exposed middle, it's got plenty of uses just off the top of my head!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

That's a really interesting point. Drew did an episode on gear that can double as something else and this would fit right in

These are cute, but you missed my need. I drink coffee, two cups a day. It takes me about an hour to drink a cup of coffee. In my office, I have a cup warmer. I have yet to find a solution off gird where I can enjoy a cup of warm coffee for more than 10 min.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

🤔 there is a product that you can still buy today that I inherited from my grandparents. It basically is a metal coil that you stick in your coffee mug to warm it. It is really small. I’m not quite sure how many watts it takes. But it would definitely work off of a power station. I will try to find the link for you.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Immersion Water Heater Electric Camping Accessories - 300W - 120/240V - Dual Voltage Portable Water Heater Travel Accessories - Immersion Heater for Tea. Sorry I couldn’t copy the link but if you type this in you should get it.

@fk319fk

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks I was hoping for something along the line of a solar oven that I could put my cup in. If I was going that route I would use my coffee warmer.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Gotcha. Maybe check out BioLite. They are always coming up with cool stuff like that either powered off of fire or solar.

@_GntlStone_

Жыл бұрын

@@fk319fk A XL square metal cookie tin "Costco/BJs/" size? Or similar?

Kovix... Sounds like a job for LPL.

That heat reflector's price is honestly insulting. I dont know how they can even begin to justify 400 bucks for four sheets of metal and a couple of hinges.

Looks like Christmas to me

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

LOL...many Christmases for sure. Our setup is kind of a retirement gift to ourselves and won't be repeated.

Those power adapters are dangerous and are even illegal in many areas. Running 30 amps through a standard extension chord is a huge fire risk because the conductors are only thick enough to handle 15 amps. Any more and the resistance will cause the cable to heat up, burn through it's insulation and fail.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

My extension cord is 10awg...10awg is the rating for 30a. In the case of the 50a adapter the trailer will trip the breaker before there would be any problem.

This may be a dumb question , but Why did you put yourself into the same box with having enough power by spending $1600 + when you could've spent $800 -$1000 for a wind turbine and make just about the same power and could have an anchor point on bumper of trailer and a 3 section of pipe to get turbine up high enough to generate the power and assemble the turbine at top of your 3 section of pipe and hand pulie it up secure it and it's making power at night while sleeping as your blankets not and for half the price and about the same foot print of storage as your blanket. Just a question/ thought I wanted to ask..?? In hopes for a response nice gear shown here I'm looking to build out my F-250 for off grid hiding boots on the ground to locate me 👍👍👍👍😁 😎🍻✌️👋

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@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Woot woot! Thanks Squatch!

Wow, wish I had his money to buy all these toys

Why is Dr. Gregory House teaching me about camp gear?

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Love it! I’m pretty sure Pat will take that as a compliment.

@kramertime109

Жыл бұрын

Hey man, Hugh Laurie is someone you want to look like. Now If someone said you look like Gary Bucey, that's not good lol

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

😂

Pop Up Fire Pits are legit...when there isn't a burn ban going on that is....

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Hi BirdPhish! Thanks for stopping by. I agree with you. Not scarring the ground, more airflow, portable, and at 7lbs they are barely noticable. The ability to cook sounds pretty fun too.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

so true:)

@linebrunelle1004

Жыл бұрын

just boyght Biolite firepit. love it and the company's philosophy of sharing the profits with less fortunate countries in the form of stoves etc. Love Biolite

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Their ingenuity is second to none in the industry

Wow. The items described in this video represents a whole lot of needless expense. These “gadgets” are way too expensive to be worth the price, the space or the clutter, imho.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

maybe some of them but all of them? solar stand? electrical adapters? garbage can? it's all needless and expensive? Curious how you would solve for some of this with specific examples. Fire pit and internet are obvious but some of it isn't so obvious that's it's expensive and needless.

@roadtriplover.

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 1. Trash can form? TOTALLY unnecessary. Sure, he improved what was already a poor design, but who needs this thing anyway. Just hang it on a hook on the side of your rig. You don’t want to leave garbage outside at night anyway, so the bag’ll be easier to stow at night without that stupid plastic piece of uselessness. 2. Panel lean-to? Ga bigger energy block and charge it via your vehicle/keep it plugged to panels as you travel and develop a bit more intentionality re: energy use. You don’t need your Keurig in the woods, for example. We have 2 CPAP’s on-board and never deplete our energy stores. 3. E-cord connections: I’ve only EVER had 1 cord. The adaptors aren’t a new idea, so I won’t count that one. 4. Coupler Alarm? Really?! There are many great coupler locks out there. This one is stupid expensive and requires extra maintenance, batteries, etc. if you’re traveling away from your rig, an alarm in the woods isn’t going to help. If you’re staying nearby, a good lock should be enough to keep someone from riding off with you rig. Regardless, if the thief wants it, they WILL find a way, so don’t bother with the expense and maintenance this lock poses. 5. Ground Stakes? Honestly, the sand stakes are the only item in this video that might have some merit, but I made some myself by spot-welding “fingers” on length of rebar for about $3/each. The hatchet hammer I already carry is used to drive them in at an angle and my awning/canopy cords are looped around them. They aren’t rocket science.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@roadtriplover. Thanks for the elaboration. I guess I'd say that not everyone can weld so creating ground stakes isn't reasonable for most people. Don't have to use the same brand but a thick quality stake is necessary and if nothing else gives people that don't weld an idea. You didn't mention the springs. For solar I don't know your setup but our trailer has a fridge/lights/etc in addition to cpap and couple other things. The trailer charges while travelling but more than 2 days at camp isn't feasible without some kind of charging system and solar just makes sense. The trash can is just convenience and yes it goes inside the truck at night. What you describe is a PIA walking around every time you have throw something away while cooking. I think generally I see your point but I think it's specific to each person. Everyone has a little different setup, different skills to create their own gear and different camping styles. The idea is to spur thought not suggest copying/purchasing the exact thing described.

First! 😬

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Good to see you Jake.

Noooooooooo. I cringed when I saw this about the cords and adapters. I thought surely he's going to say you can't run everything in the trailer like this. Only meant for lights and small things. Definitely can't run heat and air. Love the gadget and gear review but you definitely need to do an update and let people know they can't just get a 15 amp cord and run a 30 amp camper on it. If the camper load is 30 amps it will pull 30 amps through the 15 amp cord and then will begin to glow red, melt the cord jacket and burn up anything close to it. The only way that works is if your only using 15 amps or less from the camper. 50 amps needs a 50 amp rated cord, 30 amps needs a 30 amp cord and so on. That's why they make them. My brother thought the same thing He saw on KZread this "hack" to not have to carry a big cord. He had it plugged into his garage and the wires on the circuit in the walls of his garage melted and caught it on fire. His AC unit was fried because it couldn't get enough power too. Please update this or it's going to be very bad for the people that don't know any better and you could be liable. Thanks for the content.

and my wife thought I was a gear nerd.....Pat is an Olympic Gold Medalist GearGuy - puts me to shame. It's sometimes difficult to find the sweet spot between comfortable convenience vs rustic, natural camping. No judgement - everyone has their own definition and limits. I would posit to some of the critics that simply pulling and sleeping in a teardrop (as most of us who watch this channel do) is considered by most a $30k gadget.....

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

LOL...excellent point. I have been all over the board from minimalist to full spread. I think now I draw the line at someone driving their 40ft winnebago into an off grid site :) Seriously though. I get all the comments and your point is very valid. Each person will do it their own way and that is truly the fun part. For us we bring what we want or need for any given situation. We use some of it all of the time and all of it some of the time.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

$30K gadget. Love it!

Folks are so crazy. I paid $51 a piece for 250 watt residential solar panels for my RV. They will take any kind of hail or bad weather and have been battle tested so solar panels are NOT fragile like this fool is saying. Solar panels are dirt cheap these days and you won't get the stated rating out of any of the panels including the one he's selling. If you pay a lot of panels, that's on you.

To each his own…

Holy cow!! $400 for 3 pieces of sheet metal with a punched put logo and a couple hinges. Guess I'm in the wrong business.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

It's 4 pieces not 3. It's 10ga aluminum with an extremely durable carry bag. Each piece is 2'x2'. The current cost depending on where you buy your aluminum is (65-78)0x4=260-312) add in the labor/machining and the cordura leather reinforced carrying bag and the cost will be around 325.00. So if making 75 dollars per piece minus whatever marketing/tooling costs are is your thing then yeah maybe you're in the wrong business. I'd think you would need to sell a whole lot of product at a 75.00 profit to make it really worth your while though.

@justinfowler2857

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 Perhaps, but I'm a cheapskate. I could buy a couple of aluminum sheets and screw a couple of hinges on them. Not as fancy, but form over function. Whatever makes your trip better I say. Happy trails.

@brucecarlton2781

Жыл бұрын

@@justinfowler2857 Bur ir won't do the job in the same way

Bloody hell! what does he travel in? A semi trailer? Too much junk to carry for me, I want to get a way from it all not take it all with me. The electrical adapters looked like a fire waiting to happen. Sorry can't say much good about that stuff.

You might as well stay home with all the products he takes with him.

@feartheoldblood

2 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

I love how you say “not sure who owns the the patent as there’s many identical versions on the market” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Chinese manufacturing don’t give a crap about patents mate, they’ll happily copy high quality brand names everyday of the week with no concern or care nor any legal copyright breach infringements. Wait for someone else to invent it and then rip off the design. They’ve done this to countless numbers of good Australian made products and brands like that here in Australia and then flood the market with mass-produced poor quality cheap inferior crap ! 😡😡😡 Great clip though mate, good stuff 👍👍🇦🇺

I'm starting to see a trend here with alot of new gear companies, and that is basically creating a problem that never existed, and then solving that problem and selling it to consumers. Most of these products can be A) Built very inexpensively with even recycled materials and B) Already have a solution (example, bungee cords instead of rope for tie downs, etc). The firepit is 100% useless, sorry, but having to stoke it almost exactly every 10 minutes, can't do this, can't do that.. lol just make a fire instead, its easier. Not trying to harp on you guys, but there is so much uselss crap in the world already we dont need more, especially when most of it costs an arm and leg! No hate or anything, the video was well done, this is just my 2 cents ✌

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I think there is a point to be made in what you said but I also think you've pained with a very broad brush some very valid solutions to problems you may not have depending on your style of camping. Electrical connects, garbage, solar charging, tent stakes in various types of ground aren't manufactures problems...they are real and most people have to solve for it.

@Z3OffGrid

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 You're right its not fair to paint everything with the same brush, but I guess I've just made do in basically all types of camping situations (vehicle, campground, hiking) with just basics and its always worked just fine (hanging a garbage bag from a tree branch instead of some clunky garbage bag holder that falls apart for example). I just see alot of the products overcomplicate a rather simple situation 🤷‍♂️. But to each their own and depending on the luxuries you want** to take with you, that is a personal choice. But if you are new to the camping world, people might think they need alot of this stuff and in reality, they don't. I do appreciate the cool ideas though that are out there and actually useful and innovative, but they are few and far between i.m.o.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

@@Z3OffGrid Great feedback and I generally agree. The garbage hold is a good example. Sure you can hang it off a branch or just set it on the ground for that matter but it's a PIA preparing meals and cleanup constantly walking around the trailer or back and forth to wherever it's hung to drop bits and parts. Not necessary and not needed but serves a convenience, keeps pests out until it's put away inside the truck at night, extremely small pack down very fast setup but not everyone needs it for sure. The gear stuff is usually subjective and gets people thinking. Everything is a series of trade offs between weight/bulk/set up/tear down/expense/convenience/enjoyment and the exact formula for each person I suspect will be slightly different.

@Z3OffGrid

Жыл бұрын

@@pat9125 Absolutely Pat. To each their own and I always look forward to seeing the new gear that's out there. Thanks for sharing✌

Innostage pellet stove does Not seem convenient.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

That is what I thought too. However, I feel now I should have probably left this part in the video. I edited out a section where Pat says it is very relaxing. He says there is something really fulfulling about hand loading the pellets. He says it is not work. He described it like tossing a handful on the fire about every 10 minutes. I don't think he was leaving his chair to do that. A lot of people swear by this product due to the high heat output and the low smoke. But again, yes it doesn't seem very convenient. In my mind it seems more like a tradeoff..convenience for more warmth and less smoke.

@leegoddard2618

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks Yeah, no, I understand the concept. The whole thing does not seem "convenient". Special pellets. Reloading the fire at minimum every ten minutes. No warning the flame is dying. Thx for the knowledge, tho. 😁👍💯

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@leegoddard2618 You make a really good point here.

@_GntlStone_

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks Slim Potatohead made an ammo can pellet stove about 2 years ago. he also made an auto feeder from some hvac tube, a coffee can and a round flapper. Pretty ingenious. It was a cool video series.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@_GntlStone_ i must have missed that one. Thank you. I will definitely check it out.

Whole lot of pumpkins and not a single gourd, as they say.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I'm can be pretty naive. Can you explain the meaning of that to me? Sorry I am always slow to pick up on sayings.

7:35. Tedious. Say that in a survival situation. 🤦

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Haha. I actually saw that as a nice feature. Our family does not carry a drill with us at all times so that device would surely come in handy. And I really like the form factor. But I did carry a drill with me last year on my trip through Canada. And it came in very helpful when we couldn't get the tire punctured enough to get the tire plug in. Also I used to not believev in these higher end stakes. But our family has had enough canopies blow over each camping season to make it worth upgrading to some nicer stakes. We stayed at one site this summer for a little over a week and everything blew over almost every afternoon or evening when the big midwest winds moved in. We got pretty quick at setting up the awnings, but it sure would have been nice to just have them stay in place.

@leegoddard2618

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks I like your displaying of items. Nice info. Thx4 sharing. 😁👍

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@leegoddard2618 Thanks Lee! Pat will appreciate that.

@_GntlStone_

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks I saw the second stakes and immediately thought of dog tie out stakes as a possibly cheaper alternative.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@_GntlStone_ Great idea! We are due for some stakes, but not quite willing to drop that kind of money. Love hearing there are alternatives.

Too much gimmicky junk.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

I often wonder would we consider this gear gimmicky if it was reasonalbly affordable? A campfire that breathes, protects the ground and weights only 7lbs? A ground stake that actually keeps your awning in place in high winds? Like you I often call these things gimmicky. But if I was being truly honest with myself. If the price was the same as my other simple gear I would say this was an upgrade in quality and not gimicky at all. Now I can't say that for all this gear in this video obviously. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I love comments that get me thinking.

@_GntlStone_

Жыл бұрын

@@PlayingwithSticks I picked up that same 7 lb portable firepit for $20 on Cr*igsList. New in box. =) Didn't get to use it on my trip this year, the place I stayed had some made from old XXL truck tire rims with holes drilled in the sides.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

@@_GntlStone_ Nice find!

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

I don't disagree with you. The problems it solves for us probably aren't problems for you. We are gear nuts no doubt but it's mostly about options as we do many different styles of camping

While I can appreciate there being a role for all these items, I hope he didn’t pay for most of these items.

At what point do you just say bugger it ill stay home

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

You bring the gear you need for the style of over land trip your embarking on. Having options is a good thing and means you can take on any kind of adventure over any terrain without any limits...total freedom.

Gotta stop watching these… I want all of this stuff, but I’m just in a tiny squaredrop. Why are you doing this to me Drew? 😂

I do like your channel, but when "gadgets" become so big and so heavy, they are no longer camping-friendly, defeating the whole purpose of camping. Just stay home instead.

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Almost every gadget on here weighs about the same as most people’s camp chairs. I think more of an issue is the cost. To get items to weigh this minimal it typically comes with a big price tag. Just some examples 20 pounds of pellets versus 20 pounds of wood. Probably about the same weight. The wood fire pit that can cook weighs less than most of our Coleman stoves. I could go on and on about the gadgets here. It reminds me of that scene in back to the future with the guitar riffs. This gear may just be a little ahead of its time. On other continents this is primarily the gear that people use.

@pat9125

Жыл бұрын

Curious about your take. The innostage pellet firepit for example. We use that mostly in desert conditions where we can't cut our own firewood and sometimes in campsites where cutting isn't allowed. We also use it inside our walled in awning when it's cold as it doesn't throw off embers or smoke where a regular fire would be impossible. If you bring your own wood first you have to get it in the area you're camping as they don't allow wood to be transported due to infestations. Next...each bundle of wood weighs about 25lbs on average and lasts about 2 hours or less depending on how big you make your fire. The innostage uses one 20 pound bag in provides 4-6 hours of fire depending on how you feed it. Combined wood pellets and fire pit weighs less and is less bulky than most options. The pop up firepit folds down to nothing..an inch tall and 24" wide for times when we are in the forest and will be able to cut wood on site. I'm not seeing the bulky heavy aspect of your comment and I'm curious about your opinion. Maybe it's a different piece of gear. I'd love to discuss and possibly learn a better way to accomplish our goals.

All of this is overpriced and unreasonable. Might as well stay home if you're spending big money on stuff like this. Man

You seem to have this obsession with fires and fire pits. What a waste of money

Gotta stop watching these… I want all of this stuff, but I’m just in a tiny squaredrop. Why are you doing this to me Drew? 😂

@PlayingwithSticks

Жыл бұрын

Blame PAT! Since I met Pat I have bought quite a few pieces of gear as well. He definitely fueled my addiction.