- "So Dan, let's talk about weapons: please give us a brief description of the HARM (AGM-88)". - "It's a waste of a wing station!" LOL!!!!!!!! Didn't expect that! Great interview, both guys very smart, and Lt. Col. Hampton's responses are beautifully crafted and never boring!

@FighterPilotPodcast

2 жыл бұрын

🤩

The young Indian boy had spent most of his life in a quandry. .. He felt different yet. .. couldn't figure why. .. he was just so depressed. He went to the Chief for answers. .. He asked the chief how his brother Red Deer Running had gotten his name. .. The chief answered in his typically poetic way. .."When Red Deer Running was born, at the moment of his birth, the first thing his mother saw was a beautiful deer running off into the forest. .. and so Running Deer was named. It is the custom of our tribe to name the offspring according to the spirits in nature visiting upon the birth."Then, the boy said to the Chief. .. And how did my sister "Thundering Bird" get her name? The chief described again, how at the moment of her birth Thundering Bird's mother had heard a roar of thunder and looking up, saw a bird flying in the sky. .. The boy asked again, how his cousin "White Crouching Bear" had been given such a name. .. And the chief, looking down once more at the boy, explaining the traditions of their tribe. .. . White Bear's mother had seen a rare white bear crouched over a stream at the moment her baby's birth. Then he asked the boy. .."Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?"

You can definitely learn something from "Two Dogs", here. He is a legend and really nice guy who has quite some amazing stories to tell. And I mean who could be more qualified than him talking about Wild Weasels, right? Really had a blast listening to this episode...👍👍👍

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tim!

I've read Viper Pilot, it's one of the only few books I've sought to read. That opening had my heart beating every sentence. GREAT BOOK!

@terryboyer1342

3 жыл бұрын

Viper Pilots a MUST READ!

@whalehands4779

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnp2110 I literally said I've read it lol

@deronwilliams338

3 жыл бұрын

Great book from start to finish.

@wackswax8423

Жыл бұрын

Check out hunter killers you won’t be disappointed. Vietnam was their genesis

@SirBrass

Жыл бұрын

Read all of his books. Operation Vengeance, and Lords of the Sky are both absolutely fantastic. But yeah, Viper Pilot is just absolutely phenomenal and that opening is so good.

I was in the Air Force force10 yrs and I was a weapons Mechanic 1974 to 1985 with the 35th Tactical fighter wing and a wild weasel squadron the 35th Munitions Maintenance Squadron.. F4 and f105s. Loved the planes. Proud to have been in the squadron.

As far as "Magnum", I'd assumed that the ungodly huge torch behind the missile was why, because if you've shot a Magnum pistol round (like a full power 44mag or 357mag) through a short barrel revolver, you'll remember the fireball.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Plausible.

One of the best book on combat aviation. It's super amazing how he (and his comrades) maintain the SA. I keep flipping back the page to remember the SA, and he's doing it in heartbeat. Amazing!!!

Oh man! I am currently reading Hunter-Killers so this is great.

@triprussell3

3 жыл бұрын

That's a really good book!

@soonerfrac4611

3 жыл бұрын

How could we not discuss the B52 In HARMs Way?!?!

Two Dogs is awesome, sometimes he's my Patron Saint! His book rules, bravo for having him on, what a great show!

@ChiccinTendies

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by patron saint?

Dan Hampton! Loved Viper Pilot. A true modest American hero.

I enjoyed reading Hampton's book, "Viper Pilot: A Memoir of Air Combat"- am enjoying this episode even more.

@SirBrass

3 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent companion to the book, too.

Thank you for making this interesting and informative podcast available on KZread for us.

Great episode! Amazing that my favorite Hornet pilot met with favorite Viper pilot. Thanks you two! :D

The Prowler also did reactive HARM. In fact my confirmed kill near Mosul in 2000 was a reactive shot in the EA-6

Two Dogs is a great interview! Yup, bring him back for more.

Another great interview. Enjoyed Two Dogs' doctrinal outlook on destroying surface to air threats, he's a man who doesn't mince his words regarding a pragmatic approach.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

The world needs more of that.

@Pricklyhedgehog72

3 жыл бұрын

@@FighterPilotPodcast I suddenly remembered a quote from the Brit' comedy series "Black Adder", where the character of the same name quips, "I have cunning plan, Baldric. So cunning in fact, you could put a tail on it, and call it a weasel."

Dans books are the best. His engaging story telling gives you the feeling that you are really experiencing the events with the participants.

@FighterPilotPodcast

4 ай бұрын

Still have not read any of them, need to get busy!

Great guest. I read his book a while ago.

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

I read a book about a Russian pilot who defected to Japan and abandoned the family and Russian life named Mig 31. It was great. Older version 1996.

you can hear the warrior ethos all over Dan, people think that to find real savages you have to go to the SEALS, DELTA, Marine Corps Infantry etc etc.....people dont really think you're going to find that mentality in the officer corps, or in the Air Force, but men like Dan prove them wrong. I loved hearing it.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Randy.

Oh hell yes! I was hoping y'all would do an episode with Dan Hampton! I loved his book. 😁

Yayyy, first podcast since I'm subbed!

Great guest and topic. Brave people.

jello, two dogs, that was awesome, what an episode, those stories, the towed decoys! one of my all time favs. he could make a movie

i really enjoyed this interview! stories were great and you guys got into the really nerdy details just the way I likes it!

I'm absolutely thrilled you were able to get him on the podcast!

The EWO who coined YGBSM was Jack Donovan, not Ray. Just wanted to keep the record correct.

I'm listening and got excited! Two Dogs was stationed in my hometown and I live right behind Shaw, home of the 20th TFW!

I have Dogs' novel Viper Pilot....I ran into one of his former wingmen, Chester Toogood, and he not only autographed my copy and gave me his squadron patch. damnedest most bizarre experience

@FighterPilotPodcast

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll say

I've read lt. col. Hampton's book about the wild weasel program and I can tell you it was the greatest thing I've ever read.

Two Dogs.... A double on the Bar Tab Sir! Big Fan!

- [ ] The authoritative wild weasel interview. Funny, action packed and at times, soberingly honest (“People are always fighting the last war. “). Really good, Jell-O. Wikipedia should honestly start linking their articles to your episodes. The towed decoy story was really helped me understand its employment. Enjoyed the raptor attack story too. His critical thinking, flexibility and lack of ego to getting the mission the completed were on display. Exemplary.

Great show two dogs is the man

Quick notes: That is the best interview you have done, imo. LtCol. Dan Hampton is THE subject matter expert on WW. But having read Viper Pilot and seeing him on a few segments on CNN and FOX, I found him to be somewhat arrogant to the point of not liking him originally. My attitude towards him personally takes nothing away from his astounding accomplishments. However, THIS interview and after reading Hunter-Killers and the reverence he has for his predecessors I have completely changed my mind about him. Terrific episode. Great job all around, and LtCol. Hampton has to have one of the best modern combat aviation careers ever.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

That's good of you to say, don graf, thanks. 🤩

@briantoplessbar4685

3 жыл бұрын

An arrogant fighter pilot??

@startrekmike

2 жыл бұрын

@@briantoplessbar4685 His book 'Viper Pilot' was full of moments where he genuinely looked down on non-pilots serving around him. It is played off as a source of humor but when you actually think about those events from the perspective of the other guy, it is hard to side with Hampton. He openly and quite enthusiastically shows little (if any) respect for anyone who isn't a pilot in that book. He might not feel the same now but after reading that book and comparing it to other books (like 'Vipers in the Storm' by another Viper pilot, Keith Rosenkranz), Hampton does come off as exceptionally arrogant.

Love Dan's books!

Looking forward to the episodes on the 320 and 737.

Hell, yeah! 'Two Dogs'!!! I own two of Dan's books.

Thanks for the tail end of the podcast. That should be clipped and posted on its own.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

It's an annual burden.

What if you don't survive are your wingmen just going to be like: "Eh...didn't like him anyway."

Read and very much enjoyed Viper Pilot, and just starting to read Operation Vengeance. So far it is excellent and very thorough. Lt Col Hampton is a very talented writer IMO.

I've probably listened to Viper Pilot on audiobook 4-5 times. Amazing book!

Amazing episode!!!

love love LOVE his attitude

I've got Viper Pilot on audiobook, I think I'm on my 3rd listen, good for walks.

I was there in 2003 flying Hawks out of Speicher with 4ID. Those Haboobs were no joke. Ah "Two Dogs" Named after the first thing his parents saw after he was born, if memory servers. A great Native American tradition. :P

Another great episode! I loved Hunter Killers & will hunt out Viper Pilot. Despite having worked with CJs on ONW & OSW I still learnt great stuff from today. QUALITY! Good luck with your refresher training Jell-O, I was 4th from bottom on the seniority list for 6 months but in is still IN! 😎

@bluesgt380

3 жыл бұрын

What does CJ stand for?

@davidralph8250

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluesgt380 Correction, F-16 Block 50 CJ is the Wild Weasel equipped version of the Block 50 F-16. commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-16_CJ_Fighting_Falcon.jpg

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

Right. Never downplay your skill or position. Just do your best . The janitor did a good job and got noticed for promotion. I'm proud of all of your missions and successful training.

41:13 haha. A waste of wing station. Poor HARM missiles. The man has a point though.

@mobius7089

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you can make up for it if you use the cursed double-ugly Viper...

@Anderson_Hwang

3 жыл бұрын

The Air Force did not have the AGM-88E AARGMs that are capable of destroying radar sites even if they're turned off.

@soonerfrac4611

3 жыл бұрын

@ Mobius 708 You take that back! No variation of the Viper will ever be ugly, much less uglier than the best looking Hornet of any varieties.

@Anderson_Hwang

3 жыл бұрын

@@soonerfrac4611 Do you even know what “Double Ugly” is? Its also known as assymetrical loadout

@mobius7089

3 жыл бұрын

@@soonerfrac4611 Viper looks good when it's clean not doing anything. Once you add stuff to make it useable it becomes more and more grotesque. Hornets actually look good while they work. (And are just better)

this was incredibly entertaining and informative thx jello :)

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Sure thing, Eric!

Great interview. Read Viper Pilot last year and remember the story about breaking out over the lake.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Looking forward to reading his stuff.

I love that you used the audio from Strike Package Q

This is one area where old pilots and bold pilots developed a new weapon 🥊

The audio from Package Q makes my palms sweat.

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I can't imagine what that must have been like.

Thanks Crew Chiefs!

The much awaited ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

From Wikipedia--Operation Iron Hand was a joint United States Air Force (USAF) and United States Navy (USN) operation conducted from 1965 to 1973 during the Vietnam War. It was a type of Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD) mission, primarily intended to suppress Soviet-supplied surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems in North Vietnam, although neutralizing radar-directed anti-aircraft artillery (AAA) was important as well. "Iron Hand" refers both to the development of the tactics and equipment, and the numerous individual "Iron Hand missions" that generally accompanied strike packages of the USAF and USN. The "Iron Hand" is a metaphor to the steady hand and nerves of steel it took for pilots to fly directly at the radar-emitting anti-aircraft missile sites while the radar-seeking missiles flew down to destroy the target. The tactics employed on the Iron Hand missions were primarily designed to diminish the threat of SA-2 missiles to a bombing strike force.

wonder if there is anyone from the Growler community that would provide a counterpoint to the AF pov

Sick!

Fascinating that HARM isn’t the primary weapon. Must mean tactics and EW are vital

Viper Pilot is one helluva book and Two Dogs is a character. If Hollywood and/or the USAF had any brains they'd option it for a film and make a true rival to Top Gun. It would do wonders for recruitment and that whole pilot shortage thing. Just sayin'.

I would have LOVED to have heard about the exploding EWO incident from Dan himself!!! 🤣🤣

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe we’ll have to get him back on?!

Jell-O, Boats, and Two Dogs...doesn't get much better! Thanks to all!👍

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ray!

Jello, have you thought about doing an episode on private operators of military aircraft? I thought companies like Draken mostly did work as red air for training, but at 25:09 Dan is saying he was flying lots of combat missions as part of MVI international? I bet that'd make a fascinating episode. Or is it a bit too "hush-hush" to get a guest to talk about?

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

We have considered it, yes, just have not gotten to it yet.

The naval equivalent was iron hand, though it was the name of the mission not a title....not sure if they gave it a name after vietnam

yes!!! finally

My final attempt to convince the boss to let me sign a contract was for Army wirly bird the day before the 32 year old cutoff 4 years ago. Shot down lol. Much envy and respect for all you guys getting it done.

new harm tracks Radars/SAMs even when theyre off, AARGM /agm - 88G drones can do sead/SEAD lol videos of them attacking s300s in ukraine, i think any super threats that are specific against say one thing, for example an S400 should be taken out by drones or ground if possible. and a saturation attack would be last resort from air nice video ive gotta read that viper book those towed decoys are nuts

Great books (plural). Question. How confident are fighter pilots when they are NOT in their comfort zone in life? IE; around other professionals of different vocation?

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say they usually do a good job holding their own.

@sharoncassell9358

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the person. Most have big egos and are confident but on uncertain ground they shake like anyone else.

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indipendance Day Strategy..... " Warheads on Alien Foreheads" 😂😂😂😂😂

I really like Dan's no holds barred truth telling of stories. He's not afraid to point out things about the military/flying that are messed up. If you enjoyed this interview, you'll really like Viper Pilot.

Whats a tripple digit SAM. 1st Gen SAM single digirt SA-2, SA-3, SA-4, SA-5, SA-6, SA-7, SA-8, SA-9 2nd Gen SAM double digit SA-10, SA-11, SA-12, SA-20, SA-22, SA-23 3rd Gen. Tripple digit???? Which ones are those?

I have a follow up question that I'm pretty sure will get lost but here goes: Two Dogs tells a lot of these stories and uses "I" a lot, which may be just a style of speaking when telling these stories, but I can't help to think: was he truly alone during these scenarios? Was his wingman with him strafing the armored column in the sand storm? Or when he went below the clouds and found the Guard division?

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. It's possible his wingman was getting gas at that time. Or maybe he was there but 2D kept the retelling simpler. Don't know for sure.

The F/A-18G is the aircraft that has the Wild Weasel mission of the Navy. Not the single seat 18 nor the F version.

@FighterPilotPodcast

Жыл бұрын

Actually there is no such thing as an F/A-18G, it's the EA-18G.

@sharizabel2582

Жыл бұрын

@@FighterPilotPodcast copy that.

@sharizabel2582

Жыл бұрын

When I was in the EA-6 and working the integration and ergonomics from an operational viewpoint of the upcoming system they were at times including the F/A nomenclature. By the way I was USAF in the Expeditionary VAQ-128 having flown F-4Es, F-111G/F, EF-111s, and afterwards the F-15E.

@FighterPilotPodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@sharizabel2582 Very cool. 👍

F-15 EX....pfft. Where is my F-14E Super Tomcat II? :)

@navyreviewer

3 жыл бұрын

I saw one once, in my dreams..... :(

Interesting about the HARM being inaccurate. Wonder is that why the U.K. went with ALARM

Get your facts straight about the warhead supersonic titanium cubes do a hell a lot of damage. The Capt and two Sargents in the system I targeted were a pile of pink goo afterwards.

An F-35 and a Tic-Tac go into a bar. The bartender says to the Tic-Tac......

Episode on the chinook?

@FighterPilotPodcast

2 жыл бұрын

It’s on the list.

He def should have told the two dogs joke.

F16CJ is the Mild weasel

One other incorrect fact in the interview, there was also an F4-C WW. Its sort of a footnote as not many were built and only hung around for a short time.

Only one problem, f16 should fire HARM not Maverick

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

There’s a bunch of weaponry used in SEAD, but HARMs are the most recognizable for sure!

Dan Hampton sounds like Bruce Campbell.

you want me to fly in the back of a little tiny fighter aircraft, with a crazy fighter pilot who thinks he is invincible, home in on a SAM site over north vietnam and shoot it before it shoots me..... YOU GOTTA BE SHITTIN ME!!

@FighterPilotPodcast

2 жыл бұрын

That's the one.

Still no flankers 🤤🤤🤤

@FighterPilotPodcast

3 жыл бұрын

And no current plans, but it's on the list. Patience.

Informative, Thank you both. Insightful. America at her best. Poke the bear, get mauled.

for those unclear on the concept... DEAD > SEAD

@startrekmike

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the needs to the mission. Obviously a DEAD focused pilot is going to have a HEAVY, overt bias towards DEAD as a role but it is important to take other viewpoints into account.

SA=Saiful Azam... The 🦅..

YGBSM :)

Forget the USAF just send in Dan Hampton to get the job done! What an Alpha pilot! Alpha pilot: someone who destroys 5 or more SAM sites. Yes I made that up.

@patrickcallahan9599

3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff 🏴‍☠️🇺🇸

@appa609

2 жыл бұрын

DEAD ace

First wohoo

@paulcosma4584

3 жыл бұрын

Second