Word of advice, if the deck feels a bit soft its best not to jump up and down on it as this often leads to the formation of a new hatch and quite bad bruising.

@mcearl8073

4 жыл бұрын

Nick Tombs Lol, I was thinking that too, it’s obviously soft, there’s no need to push your luck jumping on it. Jump on the solid ones to show how solid they are, not on the rotten ones to show how rotten.

Love the Learning The Lines channel..Jordan and Randi please keep the "pre owned boats" videos coming! Interesting, even though not in the market.....

This is an excellent dive boat. It can be the artificial reef!!

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. I know the government likes to haul out old tanks and stuff and dump them to build up artificial reefs, but is there an org. or way to do so with a derelict boat like this?

@captlarry-3525

3 жыл бұрын

lock them in the lazarette and scuttle it.

Out of all the boats you guys have showed on your channel this one is my absolute favorite I think I have a new dream boat

I like to keep an open mind when I see these project boats, but it's way more than my imagination can comprehend, great vid ya'll.

Other than re-coring the deck, it is not that bad assuming it is structurally sound otherwise. Put in some nice insulation to make it more livable. If you went wit a work boat finish on the interior with a lot of painted surfaces, vinyl planking and laminates instead of all that varnished wood, it wouldn't take too long or cost too much and be a lot brighter. It also gives you a blank page for making the interior to suit your lifestyle.

@DavidKirtley

4 жыл бұрын

@Donald Mackay Yeah, they would be doing the interior from scratch. I follow several builds that are doing the same. It is not unheard of.

There are "project boats" and then there are candidates as a target for naval gunnery practice.

@dgeorge852

4 жыл бұрын

My ship in Vietnam was decommissioned and used as target practice to sink for an artificial reef. USS Buchanan DDG 14.

@brentparks3669

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this boat definitely needs shot and put out of its misery.

@shadowxxe

4 жыл бұрын

@@brentparks3669 yeah one good shell or tracer and she'll be set free

@jjones9290

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao! Yup...$500 for scrap metal weight! Wish owners understood this concept! At some point a boat is monetarily bankrupt of value typically because it was allowed to cruise right into a complete state of rot and disrepair and owners still expect to get 80% of the $ they paid. So the boat doesn't sell and rots away to become waste. Actually many people do this with lots of things! Particularly in America!

@ratzundruebe

3 жыл бұрын

Yeash. Throw some more Plastics into the Oceans, there is plenty of space.

He refinished the stairs, cabinet doors, table and engine first. Those are the things I would do last. Maybe start with structural work and rough interior first.

@seandelaney1700

4 жыл бұрын

Those are the things I would do first as well, because they give fast and handsome feedback. I would be wrong, you would be correct.

@steware

4 жыл бұрын

Would you drag a pig out of slop and put lipstick on it before washing it? 😜

I never knew you could rebuild an engine using just two cans of flat white spray paint...

@h.v7461

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@changeurlife3471

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@chefron8

4 жыл бұрын

They do it all the time where I live. I also like the adds that say Brand new rebuilt engine. Only 4000 hours." lol

Always be weary of an engine that has been recently painted and you see over spray of the paint on the lines.

Really appreciate you both taking the time for the tours. My grandfather gave me the sea-bug. Trouble is that I am still deathly afraid of water.

As a poor boy and a 61 year old, I would love to take one like this and put it on my property as a guest house. Remove all equipment required to go to sea and enjoy the novelty of a beautiful design. Sadly, as others have pointed out, this beauty has probably seen its last excursion. Very sad to see so many beautiful works of art fall into disrepair. If it was available for free, it may not be worth the transport fees. Thank you for the tour.

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

Totally would cost more to truck and fit out as even a rustic cabin than she was worth.

Whew! That is certainly one of a project but what a steal for someone willing to put in the time and effort!

Good tour. The right boat for someone.

Sure, 15K sounds like a fair price. Let them know if they pay me 15K I will haul it away for them. :-)

I've learned a lot watching your videos, thanks! I'm headed to Norfolk tomorrow to look at 4 candidates for my next project. Including a 44' RB Mauritias.

Nice layout and I bet a beautiful boat and its day. Can you imagine the former woodwork wow. But for now scrapping throw away

There's a reason ABYS requires qualifications and continuing courses to be NAMS or SAMS certified as a boat surveyor. I'm sure that MOST surveyors would have stepped on board, opened a couple of hatches and asked you 'so...what are they offering you to tow it out and scuttle it as a new reef foundation?' Seriously...pull the brite-work, yank that mast, buy a 1-inch bit for your drill, charge your 80 tanks, and make a 'diving-day' of it...because THIS WILL NEVER BE SEAWORTHY AGAIN!!!

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@richardedwardpay

4 жыл бұрын

Lake worthy?

@thelaughingman79

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardedwardpay not even a safe pool toy.

This project was fun in that you're getting an idea of what you want in a boat. I saw you were looking at catamarans as well. Have you sailed any multi-hulls yet?

I find these episodes really interesting! Like you say... if someone wants to put 5 -10 years of their spare time , and has alot of cash they want to throw at it now (and probably for the rest of the boats life); if they have a free place to work on it, free helpers- free stuff etc ect etc. Well, if you could get the boat for almost free and move it to your free location for free... I think you might have chance at making a boat someone would want to sail! Of course, after all that, and sailing it for a few years, it will be a 50 year old boat and you might have to, lol, give it away for FREE to get rid of it!

@manfredschmalbach9023

4 жыл бұрын

It's basically an empty casco that comes with an (regrettably owner-rebuilt) engine, some tanks and a couple oufit pieces in bad glossy varnish left.

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

Owner rebuilt the engine himself......that's a minus, especially after seeing the rest of his workmanship which seems to consist of painting or varnishing over problems.

@finleylachlan7705

2 жыл бұрын

instablaster.

@thekesterdad6964

2 жыл бұрын

looks like a rattle can rebuild

Love your vids. If I could try living on a boat I think it would be great fun. Small spaces have never bothered me but I could care less about. All the nomenclature. Resurrecting old vessels seems very environmentally sensible though and I am sure some grasp of the pieces and parts make sense. Good luck with your search After working on old cars I think the question is can you work on what’s needed here efficiently and do you enjoy it. Budgets in projects tend to go out the window quickly unless you are able to stick to a plan. Be prep’d to duck and run when something terrible turns up. Looks like a comfy place for folks in a budget I love these smaller vessels and the access to the sport they give us but this project would take a lot of skills and time the might never come together in a usable boat.

That boat looks like it has been sunken for a while. There is just too much damage showing for it to be caused from rain water leaking into the boat. Thanks for the video.

These are great boats......this was a great boat....15k....that’s big considering the undertaking, that’s a full time working 3+ year project and 100k+ restoration.........

Good video guys, thank you 🙏

This boat looks like it was sunk once upon a time ..

Like they used to say about some cars, take the radiator cap off and drive a new one underneath it. LOL 😂

I think that having some of the boat, like the aft compartments, disassembled is a plus because you can see "the bones". That aft starboard area near the engine would make a good workshop. This one reminds me of the one in the salvage yard.

@seandelaney1700

4 жыл бұрын

Not a bad point. The deck is a bit of work though.

I enjoy the boat tours even when it's a basket case boat. It helps strengthen my thinking as far as avoiding too big a challenge.

I look at these videos as stress relief and mental pause. Zero experience with boats. But this seems like the current owner realized the true extent of the damage after doing little work. Now is looking to cut his/her/it hope turned disappointment and turn it over to someone that won't be put off by complete gut and rebuild. Essentially there might be a good mould to build off of once everything is removed gently to a heap.

Love the boat tours guys. I suggest you focus more in the $30-60k price range where peeps can actually afford a boat (28-42') that's the price of a new car. A boat that may need some refit or work but isn't so far gone that it's a total write off and beyond hope. Some old Pearsons, Morgans, Island Packets, Tartans, ect....

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

Their channel, they can post what they like. Don't like it don't watch.

@mcearl8073

4 жыл бұрын

SV Poldhu - This one is pretty bad and would probably end up quite expensive all in. I don’t think they should focus on any specific price range, for every person looking for a cheap boat someone else is looking for an expensive boat and then there’s people like me who have no plans to buy a boat so I watch just to see the variety and I like seeing boats in all price ranges. I think variety is their best bet to get as many views as they can, that’s where they make their money, not actually selling boats.

@sumthinfresh

2 жыл бұрын

@@MegaDirtyberty it's a suggestion and it wasn't for you, don't like it then move on. See how that works?

@MegaDirtyberty

2 жыл бұрын

@@sumthinfresh ROFLMAO, you're funny..............NOT!, maybe read for comprehension eh "Their channel, they can post what they like. Don't like it don't watch".......

Thanks for the great video guys like the mixture of content from sailing and working on your boat ,to inspections on boats for sale ,which for me is the most interesting .This example of nautical vandalism isn't a project any sane person should consider undertaking ,sometimes things are to far gone ,and unless you're into sadomasochisitic behaviour ( not that there's anything wrong with that) it's time for a complete chemical contaminants shower ,and move on never looking back .Cheers from down under.

I'd say $125,000 in new work plus 8,000 manhours and you have a $89,000 boat..... And years of your life wasted. The most expensive boat is a free boat.

@1yachtcarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking 170K ~my cost~to get a minimalist interior after decks and exterior rehab..

@seandelaney1700

4 жыл бұрын

That's close to the math I came up with.

@SailingBrickHouse-RVLife

4 жыл бұрын

SV Poldhu - so true!

Anyone that would be crazy enough to rebuild this better be prepared to keep it forever because it will never ever be worth a fraction of the cost. I jumped ahead to make a couple of positive comments. 1. Anyone that thinks that Randi is anything short of beautiful is BLIND! Jordan, you are a blessed man! Beauty, intelligence, wit and willing to get her hands in to the project...nice. 2. You two are doing a great job. I also follow Mads( sp ) Solianis the Wynns and others. You have the talent, personality, desire and ability to do this. I will say that you do need a bigger boat. Nice job on the electric power on Freebie...very nice. I would personally get a long shaft OB on a retractable mount for her stern... but I am a redundancy fanatic! Keep up the good work you two. Rick.

Sometimes even a FREE BOAT is way too expensive....

park it in the backyard for the inlaws when they visit.

I see so much moisture damage the entire upper structure needs reinforced and fresh Jellcoat painted on

That was a beautiful boat in it's day. Can't believe someone let it get to that condition. Best solution for this poor boat is, strip it down, sell the few good parts, scrap the hull and buy a new boat.

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@jmflyer55

2 жыл бұрын

Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. This is a beautiful boat, that someone can do a refit no problem. You CAN’T buy a ‘new boat’ that’ built like this and is as beautiful as these are when nice....

Looks like its been raised from the bottom of the sea : )

Although I would never take on a project like this, I see this as a possibility for a younger handy couple, if the hull is sound, mast and boom are solid, tanks are in good shape, etc. The interior is nothing more than a decent sawzall fix away, with a person being able to rebuild its interior however they want.

Thanks cool old boat.

The teak decks probably floated away when this wreck sank.

Gr8 assessment guys! It'll take 5-10 yrs to refit her

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

And if it does........so what?.

Well, the bilge was dry.

Appreciate your very realistic summation of this project. Simply for education purposes, would you mind mentioning the asking price? Thanks for your content guys. It's amongst the most valuable on YT :)

@scottstewart5784

4 жыл бұрын

15k

That one could make a nice reef for the fishies.

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

@Mal L That will last longer than steel or aluminum in saltwater.

Deck replacement a la Sail Life. lol

@samualwhittemore228

4 жыл бұрын

Never did understand putting balsa on a boat. It's not like they didn't have closed cell 20-30 years ago.

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

@@samualwhittemore228 It was cheaper than foam. Mfg. didn't care if it rotted out in a few decades, they'll gladly make you a new one.

Hell yeah I would have snagged it up.

I love this channel. I'm a OK captain .but disabled now .I need a affordable cruiser . to make my home trying to live cheaply as possible. Iv always loved the water .. Ocean .not fresh.Lol beach bum.Lol

Sometimes they're just too far gone .....walkaway!

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

Right....thought I was looking at a crime scene...run Forest, run!.....

The only thing more expensive than a “cheap” boat is a free boat.

@84jamesp

4 жыл бұрын

Ian Hobday Lmfao true

It will take a HUGE amount of time and money to rebuild it. And also be aware of that black and white mold.

A young man who wanted a retirement boat... might finish in time.

What a nightmare! It needs a total re-fit and what has already been done needs to be properly re-done! I couldn't even watch the walkthrough at the end.

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

This boat was for sale a couple of years ago in original condition, asking price $8k. Now they have gutted, chopped, bopped, and destroyed the interior and have the nerve to ask $15k. I don't think so.

I live in Titusville and when I saw the free boat you got, I almost threw up. Nice pick up

@JohnLee-ui5gd

4 жыл бұрын

Titusville rocks.

It definitely has potential. Put it on jacks and live aboard for a bit. What you save in rent put back into it.

Rebuilding a boat has to be substantially harder than building as new.

I like the way the anchor windlass is situated. But soft deck no way

Cheoy Leak for sure.

I think this boat has seen better days. It's time for her to go to Davy Jones locker.

Neglect is a fine boats worst enemy. Thx guys

Hi guys 😉👍,,I found it a little late, what a pity,,I'll ask anyway,,is this beautiful motor boat and sails still available??

The only major component worth salvaging would be the engine and hearing that the owner rebuilt it himself does not inspire confidence in its worth unless you could somehow verify the guy knew what he was doing.

I looked at one 30 yesrs ago. I loved it.a true motorsailor. Today if this boat was located in thailand pay 5k and drop 50k into it and she would be back to her full glory. Thailand labour and teak are cheap as chips. This kind of rebuild is not hard for these thai wood workers. The hull on this boat is 3 inches of fiberglass.

Shows well Bristol condition engine like new. Low engine hours don’t let this one get away.😂

This is the same thing as when you part out an old vehicle. You have to figure there are enough of them out there to sell the good parts for enough profit to scrap the rest. It is so sad to see.

2 questions, 1. how cheap is it and when are you buying it, thats a fantastic project if the price is right

@LearningtheLines

4 жыл бұрын

Whoops! Asking price was just added to the video description. Thanks for the reminder.

This boat has probably been sunk at least once.

@tedhaas8440

4 жыл бұрын

I was going to say that too. You would really have to be an all around handyman with tons of time on your hands to take on that project. It can't me worth more than $5k or less. The labor to restore it will be worth $100k or more.

@paulslevinsky580

4 жыл бұрын

needs to be sunk twice

@hatespeach9835

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulslevinsky580 at least

I’ve seen an example of this boat in Bristol condition, it is worth restoring, someone should save this boat

Love the layout. pity it is so beat

Albert Einstein quote. "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution."

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

Einstein was a theoretical physicist, not a boat builder.

@edb5604

4 жыл бұрын

so what are you saying , that to build boats you have not to have an imagination ??

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

@@edb5604 imagination without knowledge has little to no cost when you are sitting around thinking. Not so much when your lack of knowledge can be very expensive.

@edb5604

4 жыл бұрын

Failure makes success a little sweeter. We appreciate victory more when we've tasted defeat. Life wouldn't be fun if things always worked out. Know that your failure is just part of the game we're all playing. We expend a lot of energy running from failure. Try embracing it. Find the opportunity in the adversity. If there's a recipe for success, failure might be its primary ingredient.

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

@@edb5604 "Embrace failure" is what successful people say to rationalize their mistakes and make other people commit them.

Poor kids, their excitement is going to bankrupt them...

Soft Decks doesn't exactly mean that it's rotted. You had mentioned that he removed the teak therefore taking away all of the structural integrity of the deck I have built a lot of boats in my 52 years. There's a reason that teak wood was on that deck. The reason being structural structural structural and at the same time aesthetically pleasing to the eye. So instead of advising someone to rip the whole deck off you should strip it down to bare material and doing a moisture test on it then recap it with a strong stable material such as teak wood. Chances are the subdeck that you were actually walking on is nothing more than woven roving fiberglass. You mentioned,There wouldn't have been thousands of holes in that deck. First of all you don't nail teak down ,it is put down with an adhesive compound.

I enjoy these vids. But waiting for sailing. I see so many younh people say they are going to live and sail, retire young, live the life. None have been successfull. I feel like this is wishful thinking and somewhat unrealistic goal. I would love for yall to get back at it and succeed in your dreams. I am rooting for you guys. Hopefully yall get back on the water soon.

Worth it but that's a huge job but it looks like they got a lot of the really dirty work done, a good project for a carpenter

I 62 and that's crazy to much work I am retired and there's not enough time for me

Salt water in a boat is a life saver. Freshwater is a killer. All that freshwater leaking is what kills most wooden boats. Wooden boats rot from the top down. Not from the bottom up. It's basically firewood.

The overall impression through the screen, everything is rotten

This is a perfect boat for a supper young, enthusiastic, hippy type person who has no idea what he's getting in to but has that "stick to it" and "finish what you started attitude". Besides the not knowing a thing about anything, Im not sure those kind of people actually still exist?

@jamestheotherone742

4 жыл бұрын

There's another one born every minute. Gonna need one that comes with a healthy trust fund though.

I know you two have been in touch with them in the past, so I thought I would see if you know what's up with Abandon Comfort? They seem to have disappeared.

The crap has been removed to expose the structural stuff. Assuming a survey shows the hull is not delaminated it looks pretty honest. Sort out those weak decks and it’s a great foundation for you to fit out. If you want proper renovation look at Ship Happens in U.K.

@davidelliott5843

3 жыл бұрын

Is spray foam insulation allowed? It’s used on steel house boats to avoid condensation. I’ve no idea if it’s acceptable or allowed on sea-going yachts.

... a good project for a finishing carpenter, someone with good woodworking skills would be able to knock off the interior quite swiftly .... or for someone that wants to do the interior while they move from exotic location to exotic location .... you would want a steamer (bending wood), and a generator for your hand tools .... someone is going to love this project ..... would want to fix the deck before heading out, as well as one of the heads ..... good candidate for a hybrid, electric engine and gen set below the pilothouse and Battery banks below cabin sole ..... have fun be safe, save our oceans .....

@skeetersaurus6249

4 жыл бұрын

hmmm...black mold throughout, wood forms in the hull itself (hate to call them bulkheads and stringers, at this point...maybe merely 'formerly known as...'), spongier than a pool float...and you deem this 'a good project for a finishing carpenter'? ROFL... You don't get it...those that think like you do, end up turning something like this into a 'do it yourself' project, do it half-butt, get state numbers for it (because they can't get it to pass survey), and then end up off Cape Hatteras or Key West calling for Mayday...ship sinking...because they thought that with enough caulk, they could turn LANDFILL into a SEAWORTHY VESSEL AGAIN!

@peterfrebold

4 жыл бұрын

@@skeetersaurus6249 Who said it would be bought without a survey to know what all ails this project.

@MegaDirtyberty

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, the deck (from what I could see on the video) looked more like unsupported than rotten.

Wow, no one in there right minds would "buy" this one, if it were donated, or sold to recoup the investment on repairs. no doubt it has ozmosis too.

Boat has a lot of potential. Not for the people commenting because they have no skills, but has potential.

Shame previous owner(s) let them go so far...mainly due to overly inflated sense of worth. Sad really.. .

@skeetersaurus6249

4 жыл бұрын

The words, 'CAPTAIN RON' really come to mind, watching this video!

BUY this boat only: IF you are an expert carpenter IF you have a *complete* woodshop with all the right tools IF you have a lot more time than money IF you have land within 100 miles to store this boat on while working on it IF you love sailing and/or can sell it after fix-up IF the hull itself is sound Then, no more then $5,000 tops. If you are missing just one "IF" then run away.

I'm getting into sailboats but I think that I will need a trawler .

I have never seen a choi Lee without a soft deck unless it it had teak. To stiffen it

Nice engine but you would have to dismount the interior, restore the bulkheads and soul bearers not to mention the fiberglass work, 15k is a bit optimistic.

The best thing for that boat is tow it out to sea, place an explosive device on the bottom of the haul with a timer and get away from it and watch the fun!!!

Just think of it as a blank canvas!😆

In the aft. All that’s left of where the ribs were are the tabs to the fiberglass. Please do not take on a this project unless you have had an old boat with issues before or have worked on them. This one may be way more effort, time and money than it’s worth. There’s a very good chance that the boat will crush in haul out.

Awesome! Buy it! 😂

Fresh Water is the worst kind of water to have on wood, it's a well-known fact that wooden boats are excellent in seawater it's like the seawater basically pickles the wood but freshwater just rots the wood.

I think the “ talking heads” said it best. Run Run Run Run Runaway

If you like wood working...that boat will keep you busy for a long time. It was a beauty brand new. $200,000 you'll make it like new again

"Learning the ropes" is a better channel name.

@minimonte1

4 жыл бұрын

There's only one thing on a sailboat that is referred to as a 'rope' and it's only 6 inches long...

@Steve_1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@minimonte1 Wow, I was thinking it would be a play on words.. Not taking it literally.

@Steve_1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@minimonte1 Are you sure that rope isn't 6 feet long? Jk, lol

I look at this boat and think of 3 other sail channels Sail Life with Madds and his rebuild and Sailing magic carpet what their boat looked like after the fall and maybe Sailing lady Africa and their complete rebuild. Yea lots of time and money involved.