Note to ATF agents enforcing the illegal and unconstitutional brace rule: my cameraman removed this pistol's pistol brace a long time ago, and we're both members of FPC.

@JimD410

8 ай бұрын

How close in recoil is the 41mag to 44mag ? Is it even noticeable, or are they about the same I have shot a 44mag 4 "and 6" never shot a 41. Always curious about them.

@AlaskanBallistics

8 ай бұрын

@JimD410 having not shot them back to back in the same type of gun, from my memory there a slight less recoil with full powered loads like from buffalo bore

@rogerclark9285

Ай бұрын

@@JimD410 Recoil with the 41 is a bit less. Just enough to feel the difference in my experience when shooting guns of comparable weight.

@anonymousf454

Ай бұрын

Which pistol brace is that? It looks sweet

@AlaskanBallistics

Ай бұрын

@anonymousf454 sb4

I always get a chuckle when people want to compare the 10 mm to the .41 mag. That Buffalo Bore ammo is always impressive stuff.

@Akhazmat907

3 жыл бұрын

That maybe the case for 10mm and 41 mag but I hate Buffalo bore for 45LC.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@Akhazmat907

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics both in my 45lc revolver and rifle was super high and very far to the right. Which was weird because no other round did that. I had 2 of the same boxes shot them and could not believe how bad they where. Brand new from arctic ammo to.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@@Akhazmat907 hmmm well were they grouping that far too the right? If they were grouping that far over well then that's just how they fly compared to whatever you're normally sighted in with. I always expect in a rifle to get two different points of impact from two different Ammunition. Now handgun, yeah i like it to group reasonably well and close to point of aim with iron sights

@Akhazmat907

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics true, both the rifle and revolver is iron sights. I just didn't like how no other manufacturer brand for 45lc did that and these ones did.

I love my 41 mags my grandfather gave me a model 57 I'm 1984 I still have it plus just about every different Maker variant of the 41 I'm currently waiting for my Henry lever action engraved brass receiver octagon barrel 41 mag and my custom made Ruger 41 mag revolver

I'd pack .41 magnum for bears over 10mm any day if living in bear country. But I live in the city and pack .357 Sig...........

@Scientist_Salarian

3 жыл бұрын

Two-legged city predators are far more dangerous than four-legged woods creatures. Especially right now.

@talisikid1618

2 жыл бұрын

Ten mm is good for both. 357sig is an ear splitter. But I shoot both.

Thanks for the data and the vid Chuck finally info on a 10mm vs .41mag

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Finally indeed had the ammo laying around for 6 months

That’s definitely no surprise at all.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not surprised. Godspeed brother

That muzzle energy -- WOW stout for both. I appreciate the trash wagon very responsible of you greatly appreciated.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Godspeed brother

Carried A S&W .41 mag. As a issued duty gun. Best shooter I ever had.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Great revolver

The 41magnum had two different loadings when it was introduced (probably why it was so misunderstood) police load was roughly 1000 fps and hunting loads were up to 1600 fps. So is 10mm as powerful as 41 mag? Perhaps the police load but most certainly not the hunting load.

Some of us already know. But no matter what we know, these videos are entertaining and informative. Keep up the good work chuck!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

.41 magnum is a round I have seen available during the ammo shortage.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen it but not that much

@jamespugh

3 жыл бұрын

Yep same. Seen some at small local shop about only ammo he had on the shelf that day.but others I seen mix of stuff

@scotttilson8876

2 жыл бұрын

I just recently found 500 rounds of 41 mag ammo in a pawn shop. Just for $25 a box. Four of them boxes are vintage peters 41 mag ammo.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@cajun5957

2 жыл бұрын

It’s eight months later but if you’re still seeing the 41 mag on shelf’s then I’m totally surprised and on the same token if they’re still on the shelf then you’re paying a black marketer’s price like $65.00 or way more.

If you only had one shot, .41 mag would be the winner, but my Glock holds 16 rounds, vs either 5 or 6 rounds with the .41. Plus, a striker trigger is a hell of a lot easier to shoot quickly than a 12lb double-action hammer-fired one. Accuracy is the first thing to go under stress, so I want as many opportunities to put rounds on target- as fast as possible- if a bear charges me. But that’s ME, personally.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with that. And that's why we carry 10mm. That and you can't find good .41 magnum revolvers

@Fardarrigger

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 41 Magnum Redhawk I inherited from my Dad. It had some issues. I ended up sending it back to Ruger for repair and it still has trigger issues. I would hunt with it but for fast shooting with my life on the line? That's a no for me.

@Fardarrigger

3 жыл бұрын

The trigger issues being it can bind up under fast shooting, which is kind of the point of the 10mm as a bear defense/woods carry gun. Which is why a 10mm is now my woods carry gun

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fardarrigger that's why we carry 10mm as well

Throw a layer of beef ribs in front of the gel blocks, lol! Paul Harrel's meat targets are always popular with the audiences.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I typically do but ribs are not a bear skull

@texasbeast239

3 жыл бұрын

"Cowpokes'll come from a near and far When you throw a few rib-eyes on the fire" --Reverend Horton Heat - "Eat Steak"

Thanks for this video Chuck, great test ! I love the 41mag ! Keep up the awesome videos. No matter what comparison you do there's someone will shout not a fare test, NOT ALL FIREARMS ARE EQUAL ! 😆 👉 👍🏻

@biggunshandguns3687

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you both. I always laugh when the crying starts its not fair you didn't use the same bullet weight. That's the whole point the 41 can take heavier bullets than the 10mm if you want to shoot heavies buy a 41 if you want 16 round buy a 10mm they were never meant to be the same. Thanks for another cool video

Maybe some people get the 10mm magnum mixed up with the 10mm auto when comparing to the .41 magnum. The 10mm is more effective for a bear head shot, proven by the shooter who couldn't shoot the .41 magnum accurately because of the recoil.

@k9m42

6 ай бұрын

Recoil is about the same so that is nonsense.

Interesting review, thanks

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@patriotninja2043

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics welcome

I came really close to buying a 41 mag carbine length lever.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I would. Tacticool that thing out

This is incredibile loads my friend, is very powurful round! 👍💪🙂

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

Yeah that 10mm is equal to a .41 magnum has always made me angry. I think the main thing is because I would hear it from people who didn’t own either caliber. I would ask them how they know, and it was always the same, "I heard it from a friend" …who heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend garbage. The problem I alway faced with my .41magnum was never finding the ammo in stock back in the 90’s when I had one. I had a nickel 3" 57 Smith & Wesson and I enjoyed it, but the ammo scarcity forced me to trade it, but I got a good gun out of the trade and life moves on. Thanks for all you do. It’s very entertaining.

@bobgasm1471

3 ай бұрын

I own both, a RIA Ultra in 10mm and a Ruger Blackhawk in .41 Mag.....there really is no comparison, the 10mm is a nice handy gun that would be the least I would carry against bear, but it doesn't get close to what a 41 Mag in a Blackhawk will do.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 ай бұрын

@bobgasm1471 agreed but that single action is slow

Those ballistics are smoking, the .41 mag has 45 more grains of slug AND 300 FPS higher velocity!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@Scientist_Salarian

3 жыл бұрын

And 11 fewer rounds. And a hammer to pull after every shot.

@brianklamer3328

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scientist_Salarian The S&W 657 .41 mag I previously owned was double action. No need to cock the hammer. But in all sincerity, a 12 gauge Mossberg Shockwave loaded with Brenneke slugs would be the ideal packer in bear country..............

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

If you waterproof those slugs. They don't fire after getting soaked... i know from having tried it @Brian Klamer

@brianklamer3328

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I still have boxes of the infamous Remington Buck Hammer in 12 gauge that were purchased years ago on clearance after deer season. These loads were violent on whitetail and I have confirmed one shot kills on bucks at 147 yards. In my opinion, the finest 12 gauge slug ever made, of course Remington ammunition discontinued a good thing.......

A known fact in the 1st Dirty Harry Eastwood used a 41mag because a Model 29 wasnt available

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Did not know that

It's close if you're talking about loads under 200 grain, but 41 Magnum flings those 200+ grainers much harder than 10mm Auto. That being said, I still prefer 10mm because 15 rounds standard 😂

Been waiting for this comparison for years. Real world, will pass on to son in northeastern Washington. Thanks.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. Godspeed

@wesbarcus3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Smith and Wesson still makes 41s. You guys have fun up there, don't Californiafornacate Alaska.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

We're trying to keep the libs out

@wesbarcus3761

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Make them buy a firearm before they can enter, that should do to.

Love the video. IMHO I think that either of those rounds are plenty powerful enough to drop any 2 or 4 legged threat in N. America.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. And I agree

Got a blackhawk in 41 mag but hard to get ammo and 75.00 a box

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Dang straight. Can't even find the dies right now

I've always wanted somebody to do this video

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Well thank you. Please share KZread isn't. Godspeed to you and yours

Thanks! I appreciate your time!

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. Godspeed and good hunting to you!

10mm is a great load for an auto loading pistol. I know I see a lot of people referring to it for a bear round, but I still feel, if I have grizzlies hanging around, I want something a little more potent. Great test and good job on the video, I think you covered it well and definitely put the myth to rest, lol.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Todd. Believe it or not 10mm is most popular for bear defense now

@longuecarabine8103

3 жыл бұрын

Todd, Good work. Thank you. I would be very interested in a comparison of the 460 Rowland with the 44 magnum.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to look into that

@cajun5957

2 жыл бұрын

Todd k and everyone else almost every time there’s a video on firearms there’s also mention of what firearm is best for carrying in bear country. My concern is: Has the bear population exploded that much that they now have their own country and with such an increase in their population are we in danger of extermination every time we step outdoors especially if we go anywhere near the woods.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

I used my .41 Mag Ruger Redhawk in metallic silhouette shooting. My handloads proved more impressive on how they knocked down (or UP) the targets , than many other shooters .44 mags.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

That T/C .41 looks like a perfect tree stand gun in the deer woods.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

It is... he's using it as a back pack gun for black bear

@robertnation3077

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Well thought out bear gun!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

For hunting yes. Not for defense

I always roll my eyes when people say 10 is like 41mag,about 400 ft lbs shy of a real hot 41.

@akimbofurry2179

3 жыл бұрын

Still a mag round in a pistol, only barly edging out the 357 mag in power

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Go check out my .357 vs 10mm epusode 2

@akimbofurry2179

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics will do, so far digging your content.

@paulscountry456

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics hmm,can't find that title?

Put that .41 magnum in a 16" carbine lever gun holding 15 rounds and its a whole new ball game. I have the carbine and the wheel gun, great combo.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Henry? I'd like to get one someday. Don't think they make it in the X model.

@3gunshooter60

Жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I have the marlin. I got it back in the 80s

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

@3gunshooter60 nice

People always want to compare the 10mm standard load to magnum revolver hunting rounds, because those cartridges have history they can relate to. "Soft" 41 mags, like defensive loads are the fairest comparison. Something like the Speer 210 grain gold dot at a rated 1280fps is a very comparable load to a typical 10mm hollow point. Much closer than the usual 357 comparison. With higher SD bullets loaded hot in revolvers, those big 'inefficient' cases start to show their potential. 10mm just can't generate the energy of a hot 41mag. It really says something for the little 357 that loaded properly it can push 180-200 grain bullets up over 900 ft-lbs of energy and compete with 10mm. 44 mag of course completely outclasses 10mm in raw power and recoil.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Totally agree.

Looks like you already did it! Great video

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

10mm is one of my favorite handgun cartridges to reload, but man it gets frustrating by how many people believe it's the same, or even close to a .41 Mag. The hottest loads I can produce in my Ruger GP100 4.2" 10mm is 200gr @1340fps, AND THAT'S MAX. That doesn't even come close to loads in .41 Magnum.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Cylinder gap affect it much? What about same load out of 6" semi?

@cekamsr

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics On my heavy loads I only shoot them through my Ruger because of the full case support. I have compared factory-loaded, 10 shot averages between my Ruger 4.2" & Glock 29 3.8", which resulted in Min-Man ammo 180gr JHP in Ruger 1285fps/660flb vs Glock29 1185fps/561flb. Underwood 135gr, Ruger 1622fps/789flb vs Glock29 1490fps/667flb. I do not have a 6" barrel and couldn't give any stats about it.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

@@cekamsr cool and thank you for the info

@cekamsr

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics No problem, and keep up the great videos! I always enjoy your content.

10 mm was crazy powerful but CRAP that .41 magnum has no chill!

@AlaskanBallistics

4 ай бұрын

Correct. Thanks my friend for watching and the comment.

Great video and info

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lance

Hey I love it, great video!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly sir.

Now don’t get me wrong. I love both the 41 mag and the 10mm. But, the 10mm is in the same performance category as the 357 mag. And the 41 mag is hard on the heels of the .44 mag. And there are too many people out there that try to prove that the 10mm and the 41 mag are equal, somehow.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Somehow

@cchcch-jw9dw

2 жыл бұрын

I think you might be regarding basic 357 magnum. Take a look at some 358429 Lyman bullets, Elmer Keith loads, loaded up to max pressures and that will let you know the 10mm is still on the heels of the 357 magnum.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

@cch85 cch85 yet in my test 10mm still penetrates more in all 3 videos

@jobo5650

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics The penetration is due to a narrower bullet vs wider bullet. 10mm will penetrate deeper in equal weight bullets than .41 mag because of sectional density. Much like .357 will go deeper than 10mm. More frontal area slows down penetration. Just a matter of physics.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

@Jobo 10mm has beaten .357 magnum in penetration in 3 out of my 4 videos comparing it.

In both calibers the first or second shot must be decisive to defend against a large bear. Spray and pray I don't think it applies in this case. Who chooses the 10 mm in a semiautomatic because he has 15 rounds in the magazine, in my opinion should take into account that he will not have time to explode all those shots

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Not what the actual incidents have said as many people have gotten off all 15 hits. Do a little reading on some articles and you might notice this. And the people who didn't get off that many often didn't get off one shot

@k9m42

6 ай бұрын

You are so right. The whole I have 15 rounds get people into more trouble than the correctly place first shot.

@AlaskanBallistics

6 ай бұрын

@k9m42 the air placement has to be correct even if you're using a 45-70

Thank you for making this one and for your comments. I have long told people the same thing- the 10 is nice, but it is NOT equal to a 41 mag.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@scbane

2 жыл бұрын

Quantity has a quality all its own. I have 44's, a 454, 2 357's and 2 41's. I still prefer 15 rounds of 10mm to 5 or 6 of the others mentioned. With that said, my dangerous game backup gun is a Mossberg 590a1 AOW, shooting slugs/buckshot. 41, 44, etc cannot compare to a 2oz slug at the same velocities, so it all comes down to preference in the end.

@404nitro

2 жыл бұрын

@@scbane By that same token/logic, a 12 gauge slug (as good as certain makes/styles like Brenneke are) doesn't compare to a large caliber rifle in sheer stopping force. Here, he was comparing handgun rounds for defense.

@justusbryant7366

8 ай бұрын

Yea I just argued with this dude on here. He said in his video 10mm was equal to 41 mag and I tried to explain to him and he called .e an idiot 😂😂😂

@AlaskanBallistics

8 ай бұрын

Which video?

10mm is Comparable in terms of power more closely related to the 357 Mag, and I dont mean the weak SAAMI loadings. Both cartridges when loaded to their potential are very similar, just that the 10mm has a slightly larger bore and heavier projectile mass and the 357 with a 158gr slug makes up the difference with a bit more velocity. The 41 Magnum is closer to the 44 Mag, and if both are properly loaded it is splitting hairs. Hard Cast 240gr bullets can be loaded to similar velocity. The 44 Mag has the advantage of heavier bullet availability, but the 41 Magnum tends to shoot flatter and its bullets penetrate very well if you use the proper design.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

That's the whole point

@patrickhenry236

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Yep..

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe so many people think the 41 magnum and 10 mm are comparable

@patrickhenry236

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Most of it seems to come from people who obsess over paper ballistics. First reason is marketing. Companies love to market the latest and greatest, anything that will boost their sales. Paper ballistics and the idea of energy numbers figures into this. Next reason stems from the people who tie into paper ballistics, he reasoning they use normally falls into "this is a 40 caliber, and this other thing is a 40 caliber.. Must be compared as the same!" Its a genuine lack of understanding of how and why a cartridge works, what its purpose is, and often general history. For example, back in the 40's, 50's, and early 60's the cartridge and load that was considered by most law enforcement professionals who knew their firearms was the 44 Special loaded to just under a thousand feet per second with a bullet over 200 grains. Another 30 years later and Jeff Cooper who was a Semi Auto fan started thinking up the 10mm, which someone said "Hey if we shorten that down and put a 180 or 200 grain bullet it in between 875 and 1000 feet per second, I bet it would be ideal for law enforcement!" The 40 Smith and 44 Special are comparable in terms of performance. Paper ballistics and what I call "Real World Performance" are often two different and completely separate things.

@patrickhenry236

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallisticsHey man, Thought I would, let you know I just saw you have a video comparing the 10mm and 357. Good job on that. I was new to your channel yesterday, and made these comments before I knew about your own 10mm 357 comparison.

That 9” barrel 😂 Never seen that on a glock before! Absolutely unique!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a novelty for sure. Good for deer hunting probably

Truly not comparable

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

There’s a reason .41 is designated MAGNUM and 10mm is regular center fire. However most underwood or Buffalo Bore 10mm will stop ANYTHING on demand.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

With a good shot absolutely

41 is considerably more potent than 10mm. 357 magnum is more comparable to 10mm.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yep don't know where the rumor started

Ahhhhh the caliber wars... How I have missed thee. I have to parrot others here, both are good calibers. But a 41 magnum, 10mil is not. But I am likely to only run into Yogi and Booboo's smaller cousins where me and the 10mm roam. Thanks for the good info Chuck. Also I am really digging that brace configuration on the TC. Looking to be real handy and damn sexy. Neighbor runs a thumb hole gripped 30-30 TC for deer hunting, it too is rather unique.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

It's a sweet handy set up

10mm without a doubt for many different reasons

Beautiful scenery out there. I am partial to the .41 magnum because I own a Smith 57. That being said...a 10mm, especially these hot rounds, would stop anybody. Those Buf Bore rounds are giving you more muzzle energy than the original 44 magnum rounds of decades ago. I'd feel pretty safe when packing a 10mm.

@paulhomsy2751

Жыл бұрын

I beg to differ about your statement concerning "original 44 magnum rounds of decades ago.)" Your statement is false. I've shot 44 magnums since 1984...The energy of mild loads has hovered around ( I stress mild loads) 1050 and 1080 Flbs of energy. That is 20% more than the most potent 10 mm load. The hot 44 magnums then yielded around 1250 Flbs of energy and up to 1300 lbs depending in the revolvers one used in STANDARD barrel length, none exceeding six inches. In longer barrels the energy can approach 2000 Fpe... I don't know where you obtained your data but it is faulty Sir. I own both...10 mm and 44 magnum. Where the 10 mm shines is in the ability of fast repeat shots. It is powerful but nowhere near the 44 magnum. There are some who want to think of their .308 in terms of a super 300 mag...faulty and erroneous thinking but that's ok, it isn't illegal to dream.

@linguisticman

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhomsy2751 I was referring to the original .44 magnum rounds from 1955, compared to the heavy Buffalo Bore 10mm rounds of today.

@delles1548

Жыл бұрын

@@linguisticman Some of the original 44 mag loads were far more powerful than any 10mm load today. Some of those old factory loads pushed a 240gr bullet at 1,460fps, and even the old 44 Special +P load by Elmer Keith pushed a 245gr LSWC at 1,200fps. Even after all these decades, I still load that style of bullet at that speed as a "reduced load" for my 44 mag revolvers. In my Contenders and rifles, it goes much faster.

@linguisticman

Жыл бұрын

@Delles Looking at the statistics closer, it seems you are correct. The heavy 10mm rounds can approach the weaker 44 mag rounds in energy; other than that I was mistaken.

@linguisticman

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhomsy2751 Yes, I was not totally correct in my info. See my response to Dell below.

I've always heard people saying that 10mm falls between .357 mag and .41 mag. In any event if I'm way up Northwest in the woods, I'm taking my Glock 20 in a chest rig with 20 round magazines. ...or better yet, a G40 if I ever get one.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

G40 with a kkm barrel and 22lb spring

No dis to 41..... 44s are more common & GREAT for all the same reasons! The best thing about 44 is 44 Special ! I would carry both together in bear country >> 44 Redhawk 7.5" in my hand & the 10mm as back up .

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed

Thank you for featuring my all time favorite caliber....The Rem. 41. Magnum.... Lets see the paper plates test or ballistics gel...Hell, why not do them both using the same ammo....

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I don't want to copy @WHO_TEE_WHO with a paper plates test. Ballistics gel isn't a bear skull and is really expensive to ship the clear stuff here. I'll try to do more gel testing in the summer

@41-Rem-Magnum

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics ....Appreciate your response.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. Not sure i could buy enough Ballistics gel to stop a .41 mag hardcast

Henry has 4 lever gun choices in .41 mag and .327 federal .Brass or steel frame ,16 or 20 barrels for either.

@AlaskanBallistics

4 ай бұрын

Nice!

That .41 is way fast it would be interesting to see a brass, copper, or other homogeneous soild and see what penetration you would get at that velocity at 1300 it would be a different beast. Also swift recently came out with a couple of A frame hollow points in 10mm. I generally don't think that hollow points are a good idea for bear defense but I could see that cross between a bonded hollow point and a partition style bullet being interesting to look at. I could see the 200 grain version being more effective on chest cavity hits in theory and if it will penetrate the heavy bones as well in the skull or shoulder it could be a good option. Federal is loading it in a new factory load.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Hollowpoints tend to underpenetrate bears... those would be interesting for deer hunting

@Gunnut10mm

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I assume so as well, however if there is one out there that would I would bet on that swift. It's probably a long time before you can get some in factory ammo swift had bullets in stock on their website a couple weeks ago however. In other words if you get your hands on some I would love to see the test. Federal also has some supposed hard cast bullets coated in their syntech stuff that they are advertising as hard core I think also an interesting factory option if they ever load them again. Another thought is both those options are ok in stock polygonal rifled barrels.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKCc1qmxnrfccdY.html If you find the 10mm a frames let me know i can handload them up

@Gunnut10mm

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics www.swiftbullets.com/pages/bullets. You have to scroll down through they are new enough they are at the bottom of the A frame pistol bullets in typical swift fashion they are over $1 each per 50. But I just checked and it let me add some 200 grain ones to my cart many others are out of stock.

Great video

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Great

10mm Auto always gets held up against .41 Magnum, but it's unfair: yes, 10mm vs. the .41RM duty load is a fair comparo, but that's about the top for 10mm, whereas the .41RM duty load was the "downloaded" version, about at the same par w/ full house .41RM as .40S&W is to 10mm Auto. Anyway, .41RM is a niche round now; by comparison, 10mm Auto is a mass market success story! 😂 I guess I'll go watch the vid now; perhaps you covered some of this in there? Like your product; keep it coming! 👍

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I did, thank you for watching

I bought a Desert Eagle in 41mag back in 1989. I wouldn’t shoot lead bullets in it but that thing is sure sweet. Being so big and heavy and having a gas operated action it really takes the recoil. Great gun.and no, the 10 isn’t going to stand in there with the 41.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

That'd be fun too shot

-- No surprise. And thanks for the demo. I'd go 10mm. Need a little more follow on, and I'm rarely alone. If it comes to it and my wife or kids has to pick it up, even more so. Like 10mm out of a 1911 platform, and yes, I do everything possible not to get into a situation with a bear like that in the first place. Most times this happens, they're startled, have cubs, are starving/old. I would recommend to all of you to thoroughly educate yourselves before going into bear country for your safety and the animals.

@AlaskanBallistics

4 ай бұрын

Amen. Good choice. Godspeed and good hunting my friend.

@MarkJacksonGaming

4 ай бұрын

-- Yeah, just a Gamo G2 .22 pellet gun for squirrels trying to get in my attic right now :) Best wishes to you and yours as well. @@AlaskanBallistics

@AlaskanBallistics

4 ай бұрын

Squirrel stew is delicious!

I own both, glock 40 and ruger 41 mag single action. Takes longer to get back on target with the 41 plus I carry only 5 rounds. Glock 40 10mm 15 rounds of fast fire. Nice program

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd obviously carry the g40 too

I have a ruger blackhawk and henry lever action in 41 magnum I think it"s excellent smith&wesson still make a model 57 in 41 mag. ruger makes redhawk in 41 mag.also

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if I could just find a deal on one

When you have 15+1 rounds of 10mm on hand compared to 6 rounds of .41 mag in a revolver I always get a chuckle when people say they'd pick .41 mag over 10mm.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed... if you're going revoler at least make it 44 or 454.

I don’t get why so many people make the claim that it's on par with the 41 magnum. It's a super powerful cartridge, you don't need to oversell it. An equivalent to 357 magnum in an autoloader handgun with 15+1 is phenomenal in of itself. Great testing as always Chuck :)

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Old police load .41 magnum. 10mm beat that. That's about it. But that's where it comes from.

@hillsman9199

2 жыл бұрын

That's not saying much, considering most old police loads really weren't up to snuff. The Miami Dade shooting went down as bad as it did, and thus 10mm was developed. It wasn't because 9mm is an incapable defensive round, it's because the duty ammo of the day was inconsistent and weak. I am glad that 10mm was created, but it wasn't really a permanent solution to what their original problem was, bad ammo.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed but good ammo 10mm is better than good ammo 9mm

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

KZread deleted your last comment

@hillsman9199

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Then I'll edit it to be more appropriate for our KZread overlords. I likely referenced too directly the use of lawful self defense. That my good sir, I will never dispute. I know a local police officer who was a part of an department test on ballistic dummies, where JHP 9mm failed several times when it ran into a simple winter Carharrt jacket, but then the 40s&w still did the job. If 40s&w can manage, 10mm will smoke right through. This is very relevant to you Alaskans, because if you end up in a situation which requires you to use the force of a firearm, more likely than not your assailant is going to be dressed warm. With 10mm, you know that sucker is going to hurt more than a kick in the pants with a frozen boot and then some. If it's good enough for bears, it's good enough for everything else.

When up in Alaska I carried my Smith 58 with a 270 gr hard cast. Also have a Blackhawk 6.5", Contender 14" and Marlin 1894S 20" in ..41 mag Just passed on a GP100 in 10mm

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to shoot that 1894

I have both love both. 10mm ammo easier to find

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Definitely true. Godspeed and good hunting

Love the 10 but the 41 is a Beast!

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Truth

@joeltowle2737

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I remember one of my mentors calling the 10 a .357 mag on steroids and or Junior .41 mag. I miss my Ruger Blackhawk in .41, I use to make some wicked loads.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

My last 10mm vs .357 showed how much .357 can get more than 10mm. I've been looking for a blackhawk to test 41 magnum loads

@joeltowle2737

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics nice. I'll have to check that out. I hope you have good luck finding one. Great video.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brother. Godspeed

1,500 ft-lbs vs 850 ft-lbs ME. Enough said.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

For a closer comparison there was a cartridge In the Semi auto Automag called the 10mm magnum. From a S&W 610 revolver with a a barrel just over 8" barrel as well as the ruger GP conversion with modern loads it will achieve around 1700fps with a 220gr hard cast.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yep that's a closer comparison can't find the guns it ammo. Though

@williamster2015

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics you can have a S&W 610 reamed but the cheapest option would be a a 10mm Magnum Contender barrel

I think the misconception cones from the fact that the 10mm and 41 Mag Silvertip loads have virtually identical ballistics- but both are a little below maximum. And of course the 41 can easily use heavier bullets than the 10mm. Both are great rounds within their envelope. I heard somewhere that the 41 is favored by black bear hunters in various places, shooting bears treed by hounds, at close range. I don't doubt it. I love my 41, now i need a DA. Haven't gotten a 10mm yet, but it is on the list. And of course a Henry Big Boy 41 to go with my Ruger.......

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Better get that 10mm first before sleepy joe bans them.

@cajun5957

2 жыл бұрын

Troy if you got,your Henry Big Boy then I say HURRAY for you and enjoy it fully. But if you haven’t then I must say forget about everything else and go get it. I’ve had mine for a couple of years and I thoroughly enjoy it. And when I pull it out of its case at the range and the looks start coming then I enjoy it that much more. Hurry up and go to your dealer .

@troy9477

2 жыл бұрын

@@cajun5957 i will when i can afford one. Thanks for the info. Glad u are enjoying yours

@longhunterman2399

8 ай бұрын

​@cajun5957 Agreed! I also have a henry in 41 mag. Its a great gun. Fun to shoot and is a great, short ranged hunting round.

I’m a bit more realistic than 10mm = 41 lol. Obviously on a round by round basis they are not. However, I will take 16 (or more with after market mags) rounds of 10mm out of my G40 that 6 rounds of even 44 mag out of a revolver. Before anyone says all you need is 1 well placed shot between the eyes with either caliber… I would rather have more and not need them than need them and not have them. That’s my PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@andrewfossatti4937

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics the movie the Revenant has me permanently terrified! I’d rather have insurance than be over confident… that feeling when you blast a charging adrenaline filled animal with your dinosaur caliber and it keeps charging… I would rather have extra rounds to back that up 😂

Hitting the table and splitting the 2 by 4 kept the 41 magnum bullet from penetrating as deep. 41 magnum 265 grain hardcast bullet compared to the 44 magnum 265 grain Dangerous Game solid copper bullet loadings both from Buffalo Bore factory loads would be a good test for penetration.

@gradyrogers6707

11 ай бұрын

Exactly

Awesome video baby

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you gorgeous

Been shooting and collecting for over forty years, have a couple of 10s an 41s laying around, I’ll take the 41 over the 10 , shot bear with both, but prefer the 41 mag. The old 500 smith is a little over kill on black bear, but great when needed against a inland grizzly or costal brown. Well time to go throw some lead, targets all set up.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Have Fun!

I really don't think there is any comparison between 10mm to .41 magnum

@AlaskanBallistics

3 ай бұрын

Agreed but you hear it all the time...

I love 10mm, but it doesn't come near .41 mag for bear protection, let alone near .44 mag some people like to imply. The only department where 10mm would win, is the auto platform and high capacity. But even there, i'd prefer to have 6 shots of buffalo bore .41 mag, to 15 shots of some hunting 10mm ammo.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

16 shots of buffalo bore 220gr hardcast would do fine

The eternal search for better calibers, only to realize that it was a mistake, like so many in murika ^^

Accurate information. 10mm is most comparable to .357 magnum, not .41 magnum and especially not .44 magnum, which some suggest.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

I've got comparisons with all three.

I have both a 4" S&W model 58 and a Gen4 10mm G20 (4.6" barrel). The M58 is a GREAT shootin' .41Mag, but it's also a low capacity boat-anchor. Even if carried in a modern kydex chest rig, it's still heavier than my 15+1 G20 (fully loaded) in a similar chest holster. And that's before you get to the comparative ballistics from real-world carry guns: a 4" .41 mag wheelgun v. a 4.6" 10mm semi-auto. The 4" barrel of the M58 yields a significant drop-off in velocity from the typical 6" or 8" tubes you see on S&W M57s used for handgun hunting, but even if the .41 still has a velocity edge over the 10mm out of a Glock factory 4.6" barrel, the higher on-tap ammo capacity and lighter-weight of the G20 make it the Go-To weapon when heading out the door into the bear-infested boonies. Just be sure to load it hot with 15+1 rds of 'REAL' 10mm ammo from Underwood, Buffalo Bore, or Double Tap. That's what 10mm Tough Guys everywhere use!

My brother has a lever action in 41 magnum. Wish I could get it to you for a part 2 if this video.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that'd be nice but then I would need one of those 10mm lever actions that are custom made too

Wish I would have kept my .41 magnum barrel for my contender.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

It's fun

You made me chuckle at the beginning. The 10mm is a powerful auto loader round but the 41mag is a bad ass round, just not a popular one .

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I hope it comes back into vogue

@chrisgabbert658

3 жыл бұрын

Alaskan Ballistics it’s been hanging on for a long time and is still going.

@BlueberryStinkFinger62

3 жыл бұрын

Deleting someone's post that's loaded with facts isn't going to change a thing today's 9mm will get the job done end of story this is why you don't listen to you so called internet experts you're a complete joke

@texasbeast239

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlueberryStinkFinger62 - The FBI is even more of a joke. They just targeted and interrogated that Alaskan house remodeling couple as would-be January 6th DC insurrections but ended up with egg all over their faces. Remember? We do. In the FBI's "Executive Summary of Justification for Law Enforcement Partners", the feds were all over the place. In the space of 6 pages, they went from claiming the need to find the absolute best-performing round to settling for one that was merely sufficient. And then, as if that weren't bad enough, they then went on to claim that 9mm performed just as well as the other larger calibers, and then they went even further by claiming it was actually superior. Their rhetoric went everywhere and nowhere all at once. Methinks they were trying to convince themselves as much as they were trying to convince us. The flagrantly unfocused, scattershot writing of the document reveals ever-changing goalposts during their evaluation, to the extent that whatever conclusions they reached must be considered suspect.

@mot0rhe4d40

3 жыл бұрын

Even though the 41 doesn't share the popularity of the 357 or 44 magnums. There will always be a cult following of this caliber. Similar to the 357 Max and 44 Spcl. I held on to two boxes of factory 41 mag ammo, just waiting to find another 41 pistol. Still haven't found one local to me for sale. Have had the ammo since 2002

I think a poster on LWR said on the 230 gr test , same type bullet , 10mm through >>> 13 jugs ,, didn't buy it / don't buy it now .

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

If bare jugs then yes i buy it! That plate and wood really slows down a bullet. Hardcast and 13 jugs yeah no problem...vIve got an old terrible video of my 255gr 45 super going throuh twelve with no sweat

300 FPS is notable as is the bullet weight. What was illustrated here is how different those two loads are. This was reasonable for a backyard ballistic test.. I sure see that contender set up as one handy tool. Up there I would love to have one of those with a .45/.454/.410 chamber to carry on the sled. Snowshoes And Ptarmigan in the skillet all winter! And I guess that Glock would work just fine in a bandoleer shoulder or chest rig. A mag full of the load tested here would be pretty good stuff to have handy in any bear country. Down here or up there.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and the comment. Glad you got the idea was to show these rounds are not alike and people need to quit saying so

@johnnorman7708

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I will say that the reason 10mm auto and .41 Mag. Get compared constantly is because of proximity of caliber and performance similarity of SOME loads in stock common guns of common barrel length, using run of the mill common loads. .41 mag. will always be the cartridge with the greatest potential. 10mm can't be loaded to the same pressure level because of platform, and because of larger case capacity and bore diameter, .41 gets a pressure/velocity/ bullet weight advantage from the get go. It's no different in rifle cartridges of identical caliber but with huge differences in case capacity. The biggest bucket can always win. To claim some similarities is one thing, but to claim a 16 ounce hammer is identical to a 3/4 pound hammer requires you to ignore about 4 ounces of obvious fact.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree my friend

I don’t care what the naysayers say about the 41 magnum. The 41 magnum will always be a far better bear stopper then a 10 mm.

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed... I'd rather have the more rounds of the 10mm

I just bought a Henry .357 rifle. What would be the better bullet for rifle velocity impacts on whitetail? A 180gr XTP, 180gr A-Frame, 158gr A-Frame?

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

158gr a frame sounds like what you want for speed. Handload that puppy up

I just traded a Sig P365 for a Taurus 425 .41 Magnum with a ported 4" barrel.

@AlaskanBallistics

5 ай бұрын

I hope the taurus works. They're normally junk revolvers.

@rdance3

5 ай бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I have a Super Redhawk 44 mag with a 21" barrel, a Redhawk .357 4", SP101 .357 and another Taurus in .380 Ultra-Lite. Thru the years, I have owned several Taurus and yet to have a problem. I really just wanted to see that the 41 mag was like and seized the opportunity.

@AlaskanBallistics

5 ай бұрын

@rdance3 good luck

41rem is a good deer round harvested alot of whitetail with it

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Godspeed and good hunting my friend

have to take the meplat of that 41 bullet. being a little more pointed makes (can) a big difference in penetration. but beyond all that .. how did bb get 3 rounds so close in velocity??? true for the whole box i wonder?

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I get good standard deviation for buffalo bore, but not always

Love my 41 mag.. i reload for 2 pistols and a Henry lever gun.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

I want a Henry x lever in 44 mag badly, .357 magnum, .41 magnum for my camera guy

@cliff8680

Жыл бұрын

The Henry big boy is awesome. I would love to have a whole selection. 357,41 and 44. Pistol calibers are so easy to reload.

*10mm fanboys* "10mm is just as powerful as the 44 mag" *proceeds to be outperformed by the middle child*

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

Lol you don't choose it for the power but for the easier ability for most people to shoot

@jorgesolis9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics exactly but for some reason most of the fan boys say that kind of like the 9mm fanboys saying 9mm is just as powerful as 357 mag

Neil the Bastard was spot on about the 9mm the 9mm has the Ammo power to drop a Grizzly bear what I see here is someone plugging the 41 Magnum I would definitely go into bear country with a 9mm 147 gr +p hard cast Ammo and feel safe

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

If you can make the shot go for it.

@anthonyvalentino9483

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I'll make that shot count on it

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Good enough

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

There's a few bears that ate people here and when they finally killed the bear, they found 9mm 40 and 45 caliber bullets in it. I have no b issues with a 9mm as a back up bor tertiary option but it won't be my prime option

@anthonyvalentino9483

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics bet they didn't find a 147 gr +p Hard cast in that round will scramble a Grizzly brains

I’ll stick with revolvers for the odd black bear or. feral hog here in the eastern US. I figure I should take up knitting and macha if I can’t get the job done in six rounds.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but it's nice to have those rounds

Pretty much comparing 30 ought 6 to 3030 LOL nice video

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

The whole point was to dispell the myth

Be curious to try other loads... Cutting Edge has a 190g 10mm solid bullet they claim 50in of gel penetration... great video btw. Maybe the comparison will stop...

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I've got quite a few 10mm videos. It's that the same all copper bullet buffalo bore users?

@jimsterling8983

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics No, BB uses Lehigh Defense for the Dangerous Game solid. Similar, but the Cutting Edge has a flatter front with more surface area. They say to load them @1050fps - their speed with the 50" penetration claim. They load and shoot fine from my G40. Still not my .44mag tho

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh okay. Let me know when the projectiles are in stock. 1050 is pretty slow. I'll take 36" in gel and 1250fps lol. Grizzly skull won't know the difference

@jimsterling8983

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics ha, no reason you can't push them faster, thats just their 'recommendation'. I have a couple boxes if you want a few to test them for grins-n-giggles (I'm in Anchorage too)

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Sure. It'll be a few weeks

The 41 mag our of a Redhawk or Model 57 would likely retain more weight.

@AlaskanBallistics

Жыл бұрын

Possibly so.

Where the 10mm auto outguns the 41mag in a handgun is the capacity of the gun imo. Debateable whether or not 14 bullets would actually help with a big brown bear closing in on your butt. They say if you were to shoot a deer with either a 41mag or a 44 mag the power of each are so similar the deer couldn't say which one you used...

I'm surprise that has that much more powerful than 10 Mm

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't

Anything coming from any revolver magnum is always a bad story no matter what caliber size except 22 short.

@AlaskanBallistics

10 ай бұрын

Lol that's true

Where did you get that brace for the T/C 41 mag.... I've got a 223 that needs a brace... PLEASE help me to get one.... Squatch

@AlaskanBallistics

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno where my buddy got it. I know there's some shops here

The recoil of a 308 and single shot... I don't know. Honestly, 16 rounds of 357 magnum seems more appealing. I think the comparisons in power are the lighter grain 10mm rounds at 135-155 grains.

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe but you've seen my video on those they don't come close either

@mitchellnelms7572

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics Oh yeah, I don't think they're close. The 41 mag is close to the 44 magnum, like the 44 mag, it's limited because of heavy recoil and capacity. I'd love to own either in a lever gun, those rifles are fun to shoot. But, for a handgun, 10mm is the way to go.

@mitchellnelms7572

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics That standard deviation was amazing. I wish we weren't seperated by a whole country, we could go shoot some steel. Did you test the accuracy of those rounds?

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

No. Accuracy depends too much on shooter so i don't usually do them

@mitchellnelms7572

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics I mean for personal benefit. Whenever I get new ammo I take it to the range to see how and where it shoots.

Atonishing power from de 41 magnum

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

That long barrel helps

@juanpablosaenzcastaneda4643

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskanBallistics for sure¡ but aside of that variable 41 is got a ton of power

@AlaskanBallistics

3 жыл бұрын

It does