1095 Steel, Corrosion/Rust Test for Knife Makers
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What’s the best protection, oil? Wax? WD-40 or 3n1? Renaissance wax or automotive wax? Do blued or acid finishes help? Cold bluing verses ferric chloride? How about mineral oil? Carbon steel blades rust, what are we to do? I tested some common products in my shop on some 1095 blanks, maybe the results will help you decide what’s best for your blades.
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Just about the most carefully done test I've seen on youtube. This is something I'd trust the results of.
What a fantastic test. Very informative and helpful. Greatly appreciated. Time to "step back" and start working with "3 in 1" for my knife projects again. Thank you.
Weird how A 2 year old video is appearing in many people's KZread feeds recently. Anyway, great video. Very interesting. I was rooting for mineral oil, because it's food safe, but I was still happy that good ol' 3 in 1 was the winner!
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Hey, old videos need some lovin too! Thanks for checking it out.
Thank you for this test. You put a ton of time and resources into it and again I offer my thanks.
Great test thank you for sharing
@Stephenbie
3 жыл бұрын
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I'm a huge gun nut, and I've always used rem oil on my blades. Just got a bonus at work and bought the tomahawk I've wanted for several years, and I wanted to know the best possible way to maintain it. This video showed me how wrong I was. Just goes to show, no matter how much you think you know, you can always be shown up. This is quality content.
Great video! I always use 3 in 1 oil for my knives. What you have shown here really supports how well it works! Thanks for sharing your findings:)
I rewatch this video from time to time because it shows the comparison so well! Love this video!
I also want to mention that I use 3in1 for all maintenance of any tool I own. I'm in the weather year round in my job, and rain will tighten up any one of my tools up in a solid day. easily. I use a lot of pliers and crimpers with metal hinges.Typically, outside of the occasional reapply after a rain shower, I only have to apply the oil maybe twice a year. I wished I had a video of it, but I've got a pair of old channel locks I soaked in oil for about a week to break it's seize. They're one of my better pairs of pliers. WD-40 is meant for a temporary application until a better alternative is available. It's only a bandaid placed on a gunshot wound, if you will. Be safe out there fellers.
Great test. I have been using 3in1 myself, only because I had it around and wanted to protect my blades. I read different complaints from people claiming their knives were rusting fast (Not sure what they were using, but not 3in1)...but I've never had a problem and NOW I know why thanks to you! All the best!
This test is as close to scientific as possible. With people did more tests thr way you this test is done. Best wishes
Fair play for taking the time to do this test and sharing!👏👏
Do the same test with blued and 3 in 1 oil please
thanks for all of your hard work
Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it!
Thanks for taking the time to do this
Dude was like, screw internet speculation. THIS is what ACTUALLY happens.
Thanks for taking the time to do this- very scientific and professional.
Now that is a test! Well done and thank you for the very well done comparison!
Great test thank very much for the effort. I'm new to knife making so comparisons like this help on so many levels. Cheers again
This is the kind of thing there should be more of on youtube, great work!
Man this is a fantastic test. I'm completely amazed about the 3 in 1 oil. Great video, and great job doing your best to keep the conditions even. Thank you sir.
@SelfMadeProject
8 жыл бұрын
+Walter White Knives Thanks!
Wow, a lot of work went into that. Thank you for taking the time to document it for us.
What a great test. Well done. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Very interesting and terrifically kindly that you share the results of your exhaustive test so that we don't have to bother. Thank you.
Wow just the video i needed to see man thank you for taking the time to do this makes a difference
Excellent test, excellent information for new to advanced makers. Thanks for putting your time and efforts into this video.
Man i love your videos you are the most honest reviewer i ever seen, thank you so much for your efforts ❤
As someone who evaluates experiments as part of their living, this was well done indeed. Especially the control and the common environment. I have found that rust bluing holds up better than a cold blue, but you certainly seem to have it down. I will be buying more 3 in 1 oil.
@SelfMadeProject
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Six years later and I’ve just found this. Thanks a lot for doing this experiment. What I’m getting out of it is bluing with 3-in-1 oil would be the best treatment and cost effective given what you have. I’m not as surprised at the bluing as I am the 3-in-1 oil. I’ve never found RemOil to be good at much. This just confirms it.
@ElessarEstel
2 жыл бұрын
Does rem oil suck? That's a bummer. I use rem oil on all my guns and knives
Superb test thank you for taking the time and sharing your findings - very useful
Very interesting and thorough test for these products. Thanks for posting.
@Self Made, Great job! I have always been told by my grandfather and my father, 3in1, Unless your going to use it for food. Then use mineral oil after every use.
Very interesting! Thanks for the time you took and common sense approach. Love it.
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! I've been a subscriber of your channel for a long time, love your stuff.
@SugarcreekForge
7 жыл бұрын
I am honored, buddy!
I am never using rem oil again. Thank you for this video. Every knife and gun enthusiasts should see these result!
Just wanted to say thank you for doing this experiment and sharing it. Your time and effort are really appreciated, by me at least.
Well, I finally found a video I can point people at. All I ever hear from arm chair bush crafters is that 1095 will rust up. I've been using em in some of the dampest environments possible, hell I have an ESEE that goes on my kayak when I go fishing. All I did was remove what was left of their finish, force an acid patina, then oil with food safe mineral oil. A little upkeep goes a long way.
@SelfMadeProject
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, upkeep is the key. I use a lot of 1095 and its fine if you take care of it.
This was a really great test. i think this is how a test have to be Thanks for the video atb steve
Than you for this great video! A lot of work went into it, we all appreciate it.
Great tests, well done!
Awesome experiment! Thank you
@SelfMadeProject
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Great test man. very detailed. very professional. Ive made knives for 13 years, and I just learned more about these products in 20mins then in years. thanks so much for putting this together!
@SelfMadeProject
8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Davidson Thanks for the kind words, hope it helps a little.
Thank you so much for doing this test. I’m just getting into knife making and didn’t know the best way to protect the steel. You spent a lot of time and money for many other people’s benefit. I learned a lot! Thank you again.
Thanks for doing this test and posting it. Good to know.
Great video, i will definitely be using 3in1 on my damascus steel knives . Just goes to show you that expensive doesnt mean better. Good ole 3in1 , cheap , readily available. Just reassuring the " if it ain't broke dont fix it" saying. Thanks.
Lonewolf6565. For some reason I can't reply to your comment normally, so.... The point of doing rust testing on "in the white" blanks is that I wanted them to be as identical of a surface as possible. Not sure what you mean by "without a finish"? I sell blades without a finish all the time. If you mean hand sanding finish, well, I also sell blades with a media blast finish too. I was just trying to find a way to make a fair test. I didn't think I could get the exact same hand sanded or buffed finish on 10 blanks. And, not sound mean, but you do not know what you're talking about on leather sheath keeping moisture away from a blade. Just the opposite it true! Leather absorbs moisture, even just from the air in your home. Thanks for you comment, I'm open to everyone's opinion and I know I'm not an expert.
@MrJohn714
9 жыл бұрын
Self Made Agreed,... its not so much about the finish per say but more about a comparison of products that can be used to prevent rust and how they perform on basic finishes and yes I too sell blades all the time without a finish. On carbon blades I would send them out the door with a light film of 30wt motor oil, might hafta switch to 3 in 1 now in light of your test,..thanks!
@deadontarget8503
8 жыл бұрын
Just read his comment, he isn't very knowledgeable on production knifes. There are far more bead blasted and polished knives made and sold that blue. The whole reason the knife community talks about patinas on carbon knives is due to lack of finishes used on knifes. Mainly due to wear on finishes during use. How many knives would get sent back under warranty for finish wear if all knives where blued?
@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980
8 жыл бұрын
+Self Made i think we all knew Wd40 was going to do good i mean its name it literally water displacement formula 40 and i knew 3 in 1 was going to do good just didn't think it was going to be better than WD40 i call this test time well spent
@Ddabig40mac
7 жыл бұрын
+VK70001.P , I'm unsurprised by the success of the 3 in 1 oil as it's manufactured by the same company as wd-40.
@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980
7 жыл бұрын
Darryl Machtmes honestly i should have known 3 in1 was going to do better its what i use to clean all my guns
This was a great test. I am having problems with my kitchen knifes discoloring and corrosion. This was very helpful. Thanks
Great video and surprising results - 3:1 oil is awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing
You consider yourself to be an amutare but this is a high quality test. Good information.
@SelfMadeProject
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
this video is outstanding.
@SelfMadeProject
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Fantastic video!! This was something I was very curious about. Thanks for doing this test!
Fantastic work. Thank You for making this useful video.
Thats a pretty good scientific test.
Self Made, you should try a test (without duplicating the whole procedure) with FrogLube. Primarily a firearm lubricant. I've watched many corrosion proofing vids with over 100 products. FrogLube is always in position 1-4 for corrosion resistance. Has HUGE added advantage for cutlery in that it's a food grade product. It's what I use on all my firearms and carbon blades. Just food for thought.
@SelfMadeProject
8 жыл бұрын
+yoda mo Frog Lube is my list to try if I make a part 2, a lot of guys have recommended it.
Great video! Appreciate seeing this test! Thanks!
excellent content. thanks for the experiment. you even have a control. thumbs up man.
You have convinced thousands to buy 3 in 1
@SelfMadeProject
8 жыл бұрын
+Ozni Wellman You're sort of right, but wouldn't you agree that blued/oxide finishes help prevent corrosion? By applying oil to that finish, it improves the resistance even more. So, logically thinking, wouldn't applying a better oil to that finish would improve it more? I wish I had used the 3n1 instead of the RemOil, but I assumed I started with the better oil. If I do another test, I'll be sure to include that combo.
Great test! I wonder what blued and ferric chloride with 3 in 1 oil would look like. You made me a believer in 3 in1!
Very beautiful knife. Great test, thanks.
Brother you are an answered prayer! I just finished my first large survival/bushcraft knife and I blued it only to find some slight surface rust in two days! I will now re=blue and oil with 3in1. You ROCK and you have a new sub my brother! - Donny
Blued + 3in1 ftw!
Thank you. I've been using WD and 3n1 on my guns since I was born. Millennial gun guys call that fudd behavior . Shows what they know. It was good enough for dad and grandpa, so its good enough for me.
@SelfMadeProject
4 жыл бұрын
Me too, those two were always present when I was growing up. Still are around my place, thanks.
Great test and very informative. I appreciate the effort made into making this video and it absolutely gives me some insight as far as corrosion protection agents that I will use on my knife and sword collection.
@SelfMadeProject
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out. Lots of options out there, but the key is just keeping it maintained.
Excellent test and I like the way you gave every treatment a 100% fair chance. I'm amazed at the 3-in-1 oil, going to have to get a bottle of that.
you proved my father rite he was a machinest for 30 years and swor by 3-n-1 oil to keep his tools rust free and moving parts moving.
@SelfMadeProject
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, cool! Pretty good stuff, thanks.
Great real world testing! I am so tired of keyboard warriors with their theories, your experiment settles any argument. Great video.
@SelfMadeProject
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I'm sure it doesn't settle it for everyone. It sure gave me the info I needed for my own personal opinion.
@SelfMadeProject
5 жыл бұрын
@@npgatech7 thanks for your comment, of course, I agree!
An excellent corrosion test. I remember reading online that food grade grease was excellent for corrosion protection on knives.
Dude your a badass! Thanks for the awesome experiment to help us blacksmiths.
You don't think four entries being ren/rem will be confusing? Renaissance, remington. Takes a split second to say the whole thing, and removes all confusion.
@SelfMadeProject
4 жыл бұрын
Your comment is confusing.
Awesome test man! Thank you for sacrificing 11 blades for this test.May they rust in peace.
@mohammedsafraz9820
4 жыл бұрын
Why are they sacrificed? They can be recovered with a light surface grind, given they are blanks and have yet to be ground to final blade dimensions ( since they have no blade bevel ATM...)
I’m going to be bluing and putting three and one on all my knives. Thanks for doing this great test!
This is an absolutely amazing video. Thank you so much for doing this. Very, very useful information when it comes to MK2 knives :)
It is hilarious to me that people use all this expensive or "purpose made" stuff, and 3-in-one oil is the best out of everything.
Beeswax on all my carbon steel, works great
Thank you for sharing your time and effort. Mike
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
I really like the 3 in one test. I'm pretty convinced. Good test.
Funny how nobody uses 100% RAW COLD pressed linseed oil. The raw cold pressed has a moleculesize of only 0,000005mm (BLO has considerable bigger molecules of 0,0001mm). It penetrates into the metal and here in Norway we use it on cars, agricultural machines etc. It's the best I know of for knives and axes etc too. It would be interesting to see a test between this and you 3in1 oil😉
@SelfMadeProject
5 жыл бұрын
Hey, sounds like cool idea. I've never really seen anybody use it here really. Blacksmith work sometimes gets coated with it while hot.
@jerrybobteasdale
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't cold-pressed linseed oil remain sticky, as compared to boiled linseed oil? I thought that was the reason to avoid the raw linseed oil as treatment to protect wooden tool handles. It's aggravatingly sticky, and remains so
Shame to see those blanks go to waste, but thanks for doing this! If you do future tests, I would use smaller blanks for testing
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nothing was wasted, they just get a trip through the surface grinder and they're good as new. I'm usually really frugal with blade steel, so I don't have much scrap.
@backyardblacksmith3090
7 жыл бұрын
Damn good test, I don't think this could have been done any better very controlled very informative. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
Thanks for your effort on this. Great, informative video.
Incredible test, thanks a lot!
I wonder if the results would have been different if you used a heat gun and heated each blade and then applied the oil or wax due to the metal allowing the oil to penetrate and flow better.
excellent test. you are far from an amateur my friend. i think if you had done the 3 in 1 on the blued and acid dipped it would have been better than the ren and rem. anyways- thanks for the vid. very surprising and informative. as of now, im sold on the 3 in 1.
@SelfMadeProject
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
Eezox. Hands down from what I've seen is second to none. Good VIDEO!
Great comparison video! Really appreciate the time, effort and money you've invested in this vid!
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
WD40 is a good cleaning and lubricating product. WD stands for water displacement, the down side of WD40 is the lubricant evaporates away pretty quickly leaving the surface unprotected. The 3-in-1 is a good solid lubricating oil. When I clean my guns and knives I always clean with WD40, then wipe everything down and lube with 3-in-1. I've done this since I was a child and my grandfather showed me how to clean guns. Fact is, it doesn't matter what base metal or coating you have on your blade or gun, if you don't periodically take them out and give them a good wipe and clean they will corrode. Good video.
@Tome4kkkk
7 жыл бұрын
AFAIK a standard WD-40 does not contain any lubricating substance.
@tomjones4318
6 жыл бұрын
Ken Parnell I also heard WD-40 leaves no protection behind. Thanks for the info on what WD stands for. That's the main thing I use it for along with wash down. 3-in-1 is spindle oil with citronella for scent. I'm trying WD-40 gel but it's very messy and expensive. Maybe best used lightly.
I'll add 3&1 oil to my blued knives.
This has to be the best 1085hc rust test on KZread thanks for putting this together I was seriously shocked to see the results
@SelfMadeProject
9 ай бұрын
Me too! Thanks.
It's really good of you to sacrifice blanks so we can learn. I've had issues with rust on o1 tool steel knives. Thanks again. 👍
@SelfMadeProject
7 жыл бұрын
O1 and 1095 are the worst! I like both steels a lot, but you've got to stay on top of them.
My trick is to keep my knives dry. haha
Lanolin. Pure lanolin. Don’t listen to the detractors. Yes, it’s goopy, but a thin layer works wonders, and when you want to clean it off, just wipe it off with a dry, cotton rag. Excellent corrosion resistance, non-toxic, clings to metal far better than mineral oil, won’t go rancid. The only legitimate downside is that some people are allergic to lanolin. If you are, don’t use it.
Wow! Thank you! Very good test. Love the vid.
Thanks so much for taking your time good sir. Awesome vid. 🍻cheers
I believe in WD-40 for multiple purposes.
@SelfMadeProject
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, I use it for a lot of things. Pretty handy.
Good old 3 in 1
@FoodOnCrack
7 жыл бұрын
it's unavailable in the netherlands :'(
Such a great test, thanks for this!
I really appreciate this testing!
None of those are food safe, I use bees wax and kpl knife shield but mineral oil also works
@bigiron5508
Жыл бұрын
The first knife was with mineral oil..come on man....lol
@SimonRiley115
Жыл бұрын
@@bigiron5508 I know that's why I mentioned mineral oil, but the rest aren't
Try corrosion X. My fishing gear gets soaked in salt spray n minimal corrosion after a few days
@SelfMadeProject
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've heard of it, but never had any. I'll add that to my list of things to try.
@WestcountyWill
4 жыл бұрын
Corrosion X is the best rust protection I have found. I use it on all my guns.
Awesome test man.
great video! thanks for taking the time to do this video
@SelfMadeProject
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.