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1090 Graphene And How To Make It - Mechanical Methods
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I'm really thankful you are doing these reviews, gives people like me an opportunity to catch up with all the great material you have been putting out there. Thank you so much!
Thank you for being a Genius and passing on the knowledge!! Much Appreciated!
Thanks Rob, I have literally just been studying this and up pops your video. Great timing.
Im looking forward for that electromeknical video, or maybe lightening grapene like they did at the rise university Thanx for your inspiring channel. Thanx for Sharing your tips and knowledge 👍
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
NightHawkInLight did a good video on that method, but it's a bit dangerous since you have to use a large capacitor bank. Also not cheap since you have to buy a boat load of the super caps and then also a quartz chamber. Out of all the methods besides CVD, which is out of the capabilities of many (most?) of us, probably the electro chemical is easiest, quickest, and produces decent enough graphene for electrical, thermal, and mechanical strengths applications (i.e. composites, cements, etc). I'm not sure, but I think that Rob leans to a combo of the electro-chemical, as well as the heat conversion of hemp to carbon and/or graphite, personally. At least, I got that impression from watching a boat load of his videos awhile back. Something I'm focused on is making cellulose nanocrystals and then converting that into carbon and graphite. I think the size and the inherent crystalline structure may provide a benefit. I'm not sure, but I think that is what is in the hemp that gives it such good properties, though it is also chemically exfoliated while heating (via potassium hydroxide).
@brotherpaul963
Жыл бұрын
@@justinw1765 I was thinking that Rob might have watched a few CHEECH and CHONG movies myself. Maybe he"s got one of those quartz pipes to flash off a little carbon press. I see much cleanup potential in Flash Joule processing, no fire, no chemicals. We can dig up our land fills and make them non toxic profitably.That's a win, win.
You my friend are a plethora of knowledge! Absolutely love watching and learning from you... thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
This is awesome. Really looking forward to more
Shear madness Robert! The glycerin ball mill was my favorite.
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
mine too mate
@Barskor1
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering :)
I love the simplicity
I see cottage industries and how you do your business will be the future. 👏🙂
How to make flash graphene would be awesome, thank you for all the information :)
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
this is all about top down methods mate I will cover that in bottom up - cheers
Thank you Rob! Nighthawkinlight has demonstrated another method. Called flash graphene by Duy Loung of Rice labs.
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
that's a bottom up method mate - so far we are covering top down approaches
@StrategyYouDidntKnow
3 жыл бұрын
I think nanotubes would suit the endgame. I also think an interdigitated compartment wasn't considered for the flash method. I'm guessing the monoatomic layer between carbon electrodes is key. This is cutting edge stuff you are working on and you have lead.
Best ball mill I have seen Rob, and you will laugh it was a cement mixer. The mixer had all its blade cut out, and had big balls.
I wounder if you could use graphene on a thin plastic sheet to create an electtrostatic speaker?
I downloaded you entire video catalogue over the weekend. I've got a lot of videos to watch now.
@edkoetsier339
3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear.. You have put yourself on the fast track to getting banned..
@CLDPLM
3 жыл бұрын
@@edkoetsier339 out of curiosity: why?
@johnmcfadden9336
3 жыл бұрын
@@edkoetsier339 I seem to remember rob saying to someone to download his stuff but it would be good to have that clarified I have been meaning to suggest that collections of his videos be available on dvd or similar be available on his shop
@edkoetsier339
3 жыл бұрын
@@CLDPLM It is illegal to download youtube videos in basically all Western countries, and India.
@edkoetsier339
3 жыл бұрын
And if you watch a video on YT, Rob gets paid. If you download, Rob doesn't get paid, so you are stealing from him. And, it HIS intellectual property, not for you to do anything with it. Now you know and KZread does too.
Nicely done many insights into the history and production of the wonder material of the future. It has so many different properties and applications, including phone screens, could it be something anyone can harness with some basic knowledge making their own battery's and solar panels, maybe built into housing as standard.keep on keeping on with the programs, starting a build on a vawt but still trying to understand best generator, your films are a great help and insight.
Hi Robert. Great video. Please stay safe and healthy and take care of yourself and your family members. To all members also. Talk to you later my friend. ☺☺☺😇😇😇
looking froward to the new video A plus stuff
Irish scientist used 100% graphite & washing up liquid mixed in a blender = wet graphene oxide. Using CNT or activated carbon (coal anthracite) can be Used with 100% seed /leaf/stork oil ecopoxy/ecoglues to silicone & etc PLA to Kevlar & so on mixtures of liquids adhesive and compounds powders?? World's largest Ball/Sag mills are massive ..
Hey Rob, now you WILL have heaps of people drawling through your vids..
Sir, this is what I'm talking about. Lets keep on the same path and not deviate from the best capacitor ever thought of. 600v 1TF to start with ,.,. We all know you can do it. If you do, I will be your personal bodyguard....
Wonderful, thanks!
top class!
I was about to ask if you could burn away layers of carbon until you had graphene. But then I realized that’s literally the first way I ever learned about making graphene. In an optical disc burner.
would be fascinating to see robert play with hematene / graphene combinations
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
"Hematene"? Do you mean the carbon and/or graphitic converted hemp fibers? I would like to see Rob experiment with making cellulose nanocrystals, converting that into a graphite and testing it.
I no longer have my sonicator. I wasn’t too impressed with the results using water but I wonder if I replaced the water with glycerine if it would work better.
Wow. Awesome video. Next level stuff :)
Where can it purchase?? Was wondering about making a solar cooker seen where your were rubbing on a plastic cowel I was thinking of cutting a 6 gallon bucket in half length wise for a trouth
Hi Robert, did you do one on the Electro as the 3rd option ? Thanks Peter
Inspired by you, I've parsed some papers about graphene, and seen a few describing the interculculation of hydrogen atoms into the carbon lattice structure of the graphene honeycomb allotrope. In one of your previous videos, you were conducting experiments with magnetism and hydrogen generation. To make continuous graphene sheets, could we somehow take a sheared pile of honeycomb graphene with the hydrogen atom "locked" into it's center and utilize a sufficiently smooth magnetic plane to "pull" it all into place?
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to channel Rob for a moment: "Go for it mate, see if it works".
Dear Robert. I have a question. I created a silvery material from black graphite. I feel it's large graohene flakes/nanoplatelates but I told my friend and he said graphene is black. I said I think it's more silvery--especially when wetted. All the best electrical conductors are shiny and reflective. It seems graphene can be black, or if thin enough, totally clear. My question is what is this silvery stuff? (It's in your paint, too, that I got). Also, do you still feel 75% acetone and 25% water is a good mix or have you found a better solution?
I have always wondered how you know at what point you are done? What tells you that the powder now is graphene and you don't need to blend/mill/... it for another 4 hours? Is their a way to differentiate between graphene and ordinary graphite powder?
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
There are a couple ways. Really, really, really good microscope. You can also test the electrical conductivity of the material. If you know the base line for the regular graphite source you're using, and then you get a significant increase over that in the possible graphene, or more likely, a more graphenic graphite in the electical conductivity, then you know you're doing something right.
Forgot to mention Contributions made to graphene related technology by China - the leading country in graphene R&D and also producing 75% of the world’s graphene
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
I did mention them - but it was a gloss over for sure but then covering graphene in 7 mins or so I bound to leave a lot out
If you can make the plastic (or use a different kind of sheet material?) sheet electrostatically fluctuate and repeal the graphene after it is applied that would
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder a bit about the galvanic corrosion reaction between carbon and Al, and if that could figure in some?
Question I have is how can you make a one atom thick sheet of graphene or the makeshift equipment for it's production?
Sir, share the electrochemical method also
I have a question, is there other ways to get a long sheets of one atom thick graphene instead of using cvd?
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
yes - I will be looking at those in the bottom up video this is all about top down
@marz.6102
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering oh OK, thank you for listening!
You are always great. I think you were showing an Indian grinding wheel of some kind. Isn't it?
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
He does an entire video devoted to such a machine.
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
a wet spice grinder mate - I came across them when I was in Sri Lanka
Could I win a prize for directly converting cellophane or plastic sheet to graphene? Seems like getting a thin sheet by rubbing graphite on a thin sheet is adding ingredients and complexity. Cellulose, paper, thin polyethylene all contain a lot of linked carbon already. Plop it on some stainless steel and heat to 700C.
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
It's a little more complex, but there is something to the general notion. After all, the hemp fibers when converted to carbon and/or graphite via heat and/or pressurization shows very high electrical conductivity and more over, because of its innate structure and that it also gets chemically exfoliated by potassium hydroxide during the process, the surface area is immense (helps to increase potential loading of ions), then yes, in a very general sense, there is something to that. What might be interesting in particular, is an instant, high heating and quick cooling of highly oriented, ultra high molecular weight polyethylene--the stuff they use to make ridiculously high tensile strength cord, rope, fibers, etc (A bike company is now using it in place of steel spokes for wheels). (Some trade names include Dyneema and Spectra, but there is plenty of Chinese brand versions). Why, the highly crystalline nature and in a continuous, connected structure, might provide an ideal pathway for electrons, making it very highly, highly conductive? Actually, that would be a good material to try in the flash-electro-heat version. The problem with this material is that it melts at a pretty low temp. Once it starts to get to that near melting temp, it also starts to lose it's high crystallinity which is what gives it its high tensile strength and high thermal conducitivity (Dynamic fabrics are as thermally conductive as some metals). You would have to super heat and cool it very quickly (which the flash method does) and in a completely inert atmosphere. All these methods of converting matter to carbon and graphite require an inert atmosphere (very low to no oxygen) btw. Otherwise, the materials burn up. (As far as I know, there are no thin, flat sheets of highly oriented UHMWPE made, though you can get sheets of regular UHMWPE).
Any thoughts on using the resonance frequency of graphite to make graphene
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting. How would one go about finding this out, and won't it vary some depending on size, shape, etc? And wouldn't the ultra sonic do, indirectly, what you're proposing would do more directly? Benefit might be less power/energy used, and/or more controlled shearing?
@johnmcfadden9336
3 жыл бұрын
@@justinw1765 to be honest I’m not sure which is why I asked but it seems reasonable to me to assume it would have some benefit in efficiency
So what do you think is the best mechanical method? Thanks.
@mrbunchofcells
Жыл бұрын
That glycerene one
How about flash graphene?
@justinw1765
3 жыл бұрын
See Nighthawkinlight's video. Dangerous, and somewhat expensive method.
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
this is about top down methods mate - I will be covering flash graphene - which is a bottom up method later
I recall you mixed urea with the glycerin. is that unnecessary? (trying to find that vid where you laid out the ratio, but i can't for the life of me)
@ThinkingandTinkering
3 жыл бұрын
no you need the urea - I think it is a members video now - but I need to check that to be honest
@ryanjamesloyd6733
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering I thought it was, I may just not be looking in the right place, or otherwise not spotting it. Finally found an appropriate stirrer for my ball mill so I was going to give it a shot for a cellular concrete experiment I'm about to embark on.
@kooskroos
29 күн бұрын
@@ryanjamesloyd6733 Any luck with that?
Instead of getting fancy, couldn't you just run the ball mill a bit slower so that the balls don't actually drop? I don't know, but perhaps if your container was nice and round inside, you could cast something by putting it in the container when it was on its side, assuming that the stuff you're using doesn't stick to the container.. Just a fraction of the volume. The result would fit closely to the inside of the container and, assuming that glycerin and/or the container are slippery enough, it would slide along, with the graphite caught between the object and the container. I guess you'd want to round the edges of the object so that more graphite was pushed under. I suspect this is so obvious that many people have already thought of it. If so, and it's well known, I apologize for tedious repetition.
..... electro chemical method?
Look at the graphene structure, 6 points, 6 lines, and many of these sixes. That's the mark of the beast 666. Also what can cause pain (Revelation 16:10) and “a noisome and grievous sore” (Revelation 16:2)? Only something medicinal can cause these. Not a chip implant. Also human body is 18% carbon. So therefore "a man's number" is also 666. (Revelation 13:18)“The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before that great and notable Day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” --Acts 2:20-21