10000mW Analog VS 1000mW Digital VTX... AKK Alpha 10 Review
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The AKK Alpha 10 is one of the most powerful Analog VTX out there with a monster 10W output
In this video I test it against the Dji O3 Digital system to see how they compare!
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00:00 Unboxing
01:37 Specs
02:27 10W Analog Test
08:18 1W Digital Test
10:45 Final Opinion
Пікірлер: 126
I felt a great disturbance in the ether, as if millions of wifi networks suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
The crazy part is not the 10W output but mounting it on a 4 inch kwad ahahha
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Ahhahahaha I wanted something small so less inertia when crashing
For long range analog is king. Ive gone 30km on 800mw on a wing. With the foxeer 5w vtx ive gone 45km and had great video. Had to turn around due to battery
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
So, yes you can now write that you flew that far... Great! But, being up so high in the open sky, what did you actually see or accomplish? Up so high I do not see the enjoyment, fun, excitement of FPV... I see the stress, anxiety, and fear of losing your drone and it's huge cost. That's all. I say that because it's not fun to fly in the open sky so far up, with nothing to fly around, between, through, etc. IMO, long range is the most boring way to fly, and gives the most stress and anxiety. That's not fun! It messes with a person's nerves! Flying around, through, between trees and objects it's what makes FPV so fun, not open sky way high flying. Sure, you can say you did it, but don't try to tell me it's actually fun!
@youngster30uk
Ай бұрын
People are doing 30km Plus with digital systems also
@squirrelynutz1
Ай бұрын
@KOrnhOliO1 it is fun. I look forward to it. I build and plan it out. I'm standing on a huge hill with nothing but flat ground to my destination. I never have to go higher than 600 ft using 1.3ghz. It's in the open desert so if it goes down no big deal. I just have to ride a dirt bike to get it. It's better at night when I can see the animals using a thermal camera.
@shakaibsafvi97
Ай бұрын
I'd love to go long range but I am scared.... can you give me details of your setup... i.e. VTX, VTX Antenna, Receiver Antennas & Frequency. Cheers !
@FpvBerget
Ай бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1U have not flown around clouds have u?
The 10w VTX is probably for drones in the Ukraine
@ninmarioscc
Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@thirtythreeeyes8624
Ай бұрын
Zero doubt on that
Nice video Roger! Its good to see you leaving Tenis and start flyng drones!
the internet company wondering why the wifi is not working in this area lol
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Hahahahahha I have a jammer drone in my hands!
DJI analog adapter is garbage and I’d bet if you had fatsharks and rapid fire this would be flying anywhere
@bjornce6
Ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking
Analog's biggest challenge is rejecting the reflected signal from surrounding. When it can bounce and reach to the video receiver it creates artifacts. IMO best use case for this vtx is using it with long range planes. Thanks for the video Rimzler
Another great video. Thank you.
Thanks for the review. Cool, you're still flying the cinelog v2 hd. It's also still my only fpv copter. 🙂 I'm impressed because of the signal quality when you went behind the house etc. I'm getting more problems earlier. At least it feels like. I'm still waiting for the flight to the mountain! It's doable! Go for it! ;-)
10 vvatss of poweeer!!! Love your video man 🎉🎉
The chickens seem to be able to spot a propguard, they don't run from the whoop. 😂🍻 Very cool video, thanks and subscribed!
change your analog module to a better one aswell your antennas
"Look at this. What the hell is this? " Hahaha Best line!
Awesome
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
That 10W VTX looks like a video card! lmao Great video, thanks! 🙏🙏
How do you get 1w on the o3? I can only get max of 100mw...it doesnt have ouput power settings like goggles v2 right?
I recently got into digital from analog (avata2) . Good to know that lost digital signal = bye bye drone because I didn't know that 💀
Dji O3 goes out like 25km. Anik FPV had a video about it. The vistas have a hard limit of about 15km. Analog is nice and cheap. Usually. At the moment analog vtx are expensive, due to chip shortage. I build analog and if I like the build make it digital
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification, I thought DJI O3 had the same issues as old one, because on the official specs it says 10km, but nice to know it can go further!
@MadfishFPV
Ай бұрын
Don't vistas have better penetration and latency, which is why they're preferred along with analog over O3 for bando
@DroneMee
Ай бұрын
Yeah and the DJI systems are actually more like 250mw not 1000mw.
10 watt VTX is crazy. Would have to do the calcs, but battery drain on the quad would be crazy. 🤔
5:10 this is Bad Quality for Analogue. You Blame Analog. I have better Image on 200mW on this Range. I think the VTX is overloadet, or the AKK RX is bad or the Antennas also bad
Hi.. Good testing ... but you should have done line of sight and max range test.
is O3 not 2w? anyway maybe for some long range this would be nice but still meh, I mean this probably only good now for some other purposes I dont want to mention here, but we all know what I mean. Anyway what frame would even be able to hold this, probably only AOS cause most other frames are just way too small even the 7 inch ones. Also with Walksnail people do 30km or more so it is possible to go further with digital, just not with DJI. Nice test though
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
O2 was 1300max, O3 I believe they reduced it to 1w I will try walksnail very soon!
@ixography
Ай бұрын
@@Rimzler where you got that information from? I am pretty sure it is 2000mw and I found this discussed on multiple forums, if you have other info feel free to provide the source but I am sure that O3 is not having 1w cause first off I dont believe it has less than vista or OG air unit and they did not release any update for more than a year so if you find the information about it being 1000mw feel free to post it
bel video, saluti dalla Polonia
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Grazie mille!☺️☺️
And digital was flown with linear antennas ...
I would've thought the 10k MW analog vtx would've gotten better quality signal but after watching the review, my 800mw unify pro looks much better 🤔
@grabejud
Ай бұрын
not all vtx are built the same. i own a 2.5w analgo vtx of unknown chinese brand and can easily beaten by a 350mw zeus nano. also the higher the power, the more your other equipments get affected
The 03 is like 200mw output but with antenna gain they say it's equivalent to one Watt. Mads Tech did a video on the 03 power output. That's why digital is so impressive.
@mauritz1774
Ай бұрын
I get better Video on 200mW Anlogue in this Contitions. I think this VTX just sucks at this high Powerlevel. Get better Image with an normal 800mW VTX set to 200
@rowannadon7668
Ай бұрын
@@mauritz1774 i think his receiver module is not that great compared to rapidfire or fusion
Ай бұрын
That's completely wrong, the O3 is 1300mw you must not have been paying attention.
@mauritz1774
Ай бұрын
@@rowannadon7668 on the Time the Skyzone steady fiew/rapidmix VRX where nearly the same Level like the Rapid Fire.(the Dominatir this Time. I think it was Slightly Better then the TpS Fusen at this time, and slightly worse then Rapid Fire. The 04x whre an real HDO2 Killer al this Time
DJI is 250mw I believe. The 1200mw number of the og air unit is including stock anntenna (x2) dbm
I was hoping you would just send it to really push the distance range of it.
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
Problem is, flying away up high in the open AIR sky ISN'T FUN! The fun is had when flying around, between, and through, trees, bushes, and other objects. Open air up high flying is boring as fuck... There's nothing up there!... And stressful with lots of anxiety because you never know if you'll ever get you drone back... Which is obviously costing lots of money. FPV is fun. Long range is stressful! Lose a $600 drone and see just how much fun you had! Lol 😮😢😳
@sticky_ricebowl
Ай бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1I'll agree with the fact that it's scary to fly this way up high and loosing your drone. However, the market of this vtx is clearly for long range pilots. It's meant to be flown in open spaces kilometers apart from the pilot
With the right antennas on both the goggles and vtx it would of been a bit better
What are your thoughts on hdzero? Have you flown it yet?
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
You want really short range and all of that snow of analog, fly with HDZero (analog2). That's it's nickname because it's exactly like analog, but slightly sharper. 30m out you'll get that crappy looking analog breakup! Fly around trees or bushes or any objects and it degrades ultra fast. It's soooooooooo far behind Walksnail and DJI it's not even close. Watch JB's video testing the range of the 3 systems. He starts in his driveway... DJI goes way, WAY down his country road all the way to the end where the street sign is. It's a long friggin way! 😊 Walksnail gets about half as far, but looks pretty good getting half way there. HDZero barely gets farther than his entry road into his property! Maybe 50m... Not over 75m and it goes to the Rainbow 🌈 screen of Death ☠️💀! Complete loss of signal. It gets "maybe" 1/30 as far as Walksnail. Maybe. Once you watch the video, you'll say it gets no where! Cuz, it really never even gets on his country road! It's gotta be why it only has 10% market share... Cuz, to be completely straight forward and honest - it sucks! Sure, maybe use HDZero if you're way into racing, but now I hear racers are going back to analog because there's an issue that's come up racing HDZero that makes it undesirable. I'm not into racing so I forget the details. HDZero is also the most expensive BY FAR. You can get the DJI V2 goggles on Amazon for $350 refurbished, in brand new condition. My friend bought them and they looked perfect! Not a scratch and 90 day warranty. Or, you can buy the DJI Integra for the same $350 anywhere in the USA. The V2's will also do analog FPV. Not Integra. They both come with antennas and a battery. The HDZero goggles sell for $600 and you still have to buy 4 antennas and a battery for around $100 - 150, depending on what you choose. Then, add to that the worlds apart in reliability and durability, with DJI being almost bulletproof, rarely does anything go wrong, if ever! ... Where I know people that have had to completely give up on HDZero because they were constantly having to replace burned out VTX's (the part that installs on the drone) all the Friggin' time... Typically over$100 each! Over and over and over, until they finally said they couldn't pay any more to replace them, and quit HDZero! This happened to a prominent reviewer whose been reviewing FPV products on his channel for 10 years! Imo, HDZero being so expensive for such a tiny improvement in performance over plain ole analog, is the WORST VALUE in all of FPV! So much money for so little. I'd stick with analog before buying HDZero. And, with only 10% market share, you can see most people agree with me. 🤔😁👍
@dylanmeaney4872
Ай бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 thanks 🙏
@MrMonkZy
Ай бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 HDZero is intended for racing drones and offers the equipment needed at multi drone events. DJI is aimed at consumers and has a very closed eco-system that requires jailbreaking if you want custom features. I still use analogue for now, but will most likely go the WalkSnail route when cash flow allows.
That looks like it's breaking up way more than I would have thought it would on 10watts.
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
Lots of items to have the signal bounce off of. Analogs biggest problem is multipathing. Bounced signal showing up as distortion.
the dji o3 is real nice
DJI changed the fpv world when they launched their digital system.
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
💯
Rimzler. I appreciate all your videos and I think you have the best FPV channel on all of KZread. Better than Bardwell or anyone else. You actually fly and you keep everything fun and professional. Your Stingerbee review helped me to decide on a few things. Thank You. I 'm going to Cefalu in July. Are you in Sicily?
It would take 5.2w to go twice the distance as 1.3w (DJI O3) and it'd take 20.8w to go twice that. So 10w btw will only get you just over twice the distance at a 1.3w vtx and you have non of the digital benefits. Instead you can get a 5w amplifier for DJI for $90 and have a 20 mile range.
Wow it really does look like a mini flying GPU 😂
Poverine le galline quante le rincorri vol drone, però ormai sono abituate hahha
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Hahahahahah ormai sono abituatissime, fanno un po' di ginnastica
It’s not fair on analog flying within WiFi ranges. Try long range
Reminds me of the good old days when all the hardcore fpv pilots were refusing to accept dji's digital signal transmitters as the new best thing. They were analog enthusiast. Look at em now. Using digital.
@thirtythreeeyes8624
Ай бұрын
Mr. Steele?
@edgararcega3046
Ай бұрын
@thirtythreeeyes8624 lol yep. Especially Mr. Steel. Dude talks so much crap about dji as well
Not fair for analog bro your analog stuff is not at his best. i get True rc antenna cross hair patch+ lumenier double ax and Speedybee analog module on orqa fpv one pilot goggles . the image is crystal clear even on my meteor 75 pro . still Dji have better pénétration but i Come black to analog because i hate how Lost signal on dji. Analog for long range IS so much better on Line of sight.
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
I have not used analog in years, except for the camera, the other gear was given to me by akk in order to have everything from the same brand For sure there are some crazy receivers out there that minimize the interference
Can't believed they are still making and selling analog video systems at 2024! My personally i very much preferred my 03 system and I'm still waiting for 04 system to come out. Do you know when the 04 system will come out??
@leminhduc7826
Ай бұрын
this is make for ultra long range uav not for free style fpv drone.
@indroneswetrust1
Ай бұрын
@@leminhduc7826 thanks for clarification about that. It makes more sense to me, it's for ULR (Ultra Long Range) thanks again! 🤙🏼🛸
@youfes
Ай бұрын
I Switcht from digital to analog Last year because I prefer image loss over lag.
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
@@leminhduc7826yeah, but ultra long range is full of stress and anxiety of if you are gonna lose your drone or not! FPV is fun.
@ArfCXA
Ай бұрын
analog is better for races, long range and freestyle. Because there is no delay.. digital better for the cinematic and cinematic freestyle (not the hard freestyle cuz the latency)
Bigger capacitor
KZread is dying to end me up in jail :D What's crazy is you guys are stuck on digital 5.8ghz. should see what it looks like at 900mhz, or 2.4ghz. You can practically fly digital in and out of metal buildings.
Oh the memories! 🤣🙌🔥 No thanks. Never again. Lol
aint HDZero the best middle ground? its digital but doesn't break up like digital, will show artifacts like analog and hold the latency for real, this video turned out to analog vs digital xD
@GeorgeCee
Ай бұрын
I fly HDZero and DJI 03. HDZero for aggressive freestyle in front of me an d DJI 03 when I need penetration and onboard high quality recording.
@KOrnhOliO1
Ай бұрын
Maybe so, but fly only 30m out and you'll get lots of snow. Fly farther and you'll get the dreaded Rainbow 🌈 screen of Death ☠️💀! Loss of complete signal. Fly around objects even 30m out and you'll get so much snow you'll be wondering why you switched from analog! Seriously, a ton of money for a slightly sharper analog image! That's why they call it Analog2! If stick to analog before I'd pay so much for HDZero! It's by far the most expensive with the least improvement over plain ole analog. Just sharper! Still tons of snow. I'm actually surprised anyone buys it.
@thirtythreeeyes8624
Ай бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 Nobody calls it analog2 besides haters.
seems like you have a very bad analog reciever to me, It doesnt really represent what analog can be, with an rapidfire or steadyview reciever you can get like 10x the range you got there
It seems like you are pronouncing watts like the germans.
i wonder if that's what they are using in Ukraine
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Well for that is very useful 😂
@indroneswetrust1
Ай бұрын
Got to be, cuz there's nothing more than 10w, it got to be!
Pls set the VTX on 3W and do the test again. I think this VTX is Bad Quality, and its with 10W over its limit and sucks. I think you get better Quality when you decrese the Output power. I get Better Video on 200-400mW Maybe the AKK VRX is nit the Best on the Market
The akk vrx module is garbage! One of the worst for multipathing. The starfish d1 is far better for similar price
btw akk analog receiver its shittt......, look at jb test
Maybe the vtx is good, but please dont use akk analog RX module. Use rapidfire or tbs fusion next.. ahha thanks
@albetmaulana557
Ай бұрын
Gas beli 😂
@TERBANGFPV
Ай бұрын
@@albetmaulana557 wakkwakakawk
omg, a very dumb question, is it harmful to human body?
@Rimzler
Ай бұрын
Not dumb, it may be if you keep it very close, safety cap is 100mw every square centimeter, but for normal operation I would say is safe
@eddie_yuanshen
Ай бұрын
@@Rimzler Thank you very much for your reply, even thought I might not try that but good to know it is safe! Today I just got my pavo20, still waiting for some bid deal in ebay for other gears!
@HolyOllie
Ай бұрын
digital systems also transmit powerful signals from the goggle itself, which is right on your face. it is not harmful to you in any way, its the same type of signal when you use your smartphone
@eddie_yuanshen
Ай бұрын
@@HolyOllie thanks a lot for the info!
Looks like a Nvidia GPU lol
@David-ty6my
Ай бұрын
You even said it in the video 😂 so I wasn't thinking this alone