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  • @maya8_
    @maya8_2 ай бұрын

    2014? Aaron Donald, Davante Adams, K.Mack, OBJ, Mike Evans, Kyle Fuller, Zack Martin, B.Cooks, C.J Mosley, Joel Bitonio, Derek Carr, DeMarcus Lawrence, Corey Linsey, Jordan Matthews, Jimmie Ward….

  • @chrisquercia8849

    @chrisquercia8849

    2 ай бұрын

    I swear this guy is hammered when he makes his videos

  • @CheddarCookedNFL

    @CheddarCookedNFL

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @patmckee3173

    @patmckee3173

    2 ай бұрын

    He said 2014🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😭😭 omg tps is such shit they used to actually be decent when I was a kid but nowadays they just be posting stupid shit

  • @Chuck_EL

    @Chuck_EL

    2 ай бұрын

    Dude really said the four Hall of Famers in the 2007 draft is irrelevant because of two QB draft bust smh By that moronic logic , the 1984 draft having multiple Hall of Famers is bad because Daniel O'Brien and Gabe Rivera were drafted before Dan Marino

  • @user-py3ot6vg7h

    @user-py3ot6vg7h

    2 ай бұрын

    FACTS bro TPS getting hammered at the club like trey when he make these videos

  • @kingkyogre1225
    @kingkyogre12252 ай бұрын

    2014 class makes the list meanwhile 2006 draft class was underwhelming and doesn’t make the list

  • @zachramey
    @zachramey2 ай бұрын

    2014 was one of the best drafts ever. Just because the QB play wasn't great, but everywhere else had a super star.

  • @Chuck_EL

    @Chuck_EL

    2 ай бұрын

    This channel like ESPN has hard-ons for QBs

  • @anthonysilas3420
    @anthonysilas34202 ай бұрын

    The problem I have with this one is he’s basing a majority of these bad draft classes on quarterbacks that were drafted. He puts way too much emphasis on the quarterbacks.

  • @topchief1

    @topchief1

    2 ай бұрын

    You assume they did more than the absolutely bare minimum amount of research as possible

  • @edman813

    @edman813

    2 ай бұрын

    The 2010 class had 0 pro bowl QBs and only 1 of those QBs even played in 1 playoff, but is deemed the worst of it somehow.

  • @FOWLKON1339
    @FOWLKON13392 ай бұрын

    In 2002, David Carr was unfairly considered as a bust. What really affected him was the anemic depth of the offensive line, highlighted by LT Tony Boselli, who was taken 1st overall in the Texans expansion draft and never played it down for the Texans.

  • @alexbroadbent5313
    @alexbroadbent53132 ай бұрын

    2007 has already produced 4 hall of fame players and will likely produce far more. Calvin Johnson Joe Thomas Darrelle Revis Patrick Willis are all in Canton. Adrian Peterson Marshawn Lynch Eric Weddle Marshal Yanda will all be in Canton some day. You also had LaMarr Woodley Dwayne Bowe Paul Posluszny Jacoby Jones in the Players you forgot were elite category. So yeah you struck out with that pick.

  • @iansmith1637
    @iansmith16372 ай бұрын

    2014 draft💀one of the worst? Crazy

  • @llama_god4880

    @llama_god4880

    2 ай бұрын

    I know. OBJ, Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald. Mike Evans, even Johnny Football. Wait?

  • @dacobylaw4721

    @dacobylaw4721

    2 ай бұрын

    If I was a close friend of the TPS guy, I'm calling for a wellness check on him. immediately!

  • @CatRichardBojangles

    @CatRichardBojangles

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s cause TPS just guesses anymore

  • @leonzaduncan2438

    @leonzaduncan2438

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@llama_god4880it had 16 pro bowlers in the 1st round alone

  • @leonzaduncan2438

    @leonzaduncan2438

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing since their is no all time QBs it sucks. Carr was the best one

  • @deaniart
    @deaniart2 ай бұрын

    6:20 May I remind you, TPS, that the 2000 NFL Draft produced TB12? Hmm?

  • @dp_2113

    @dp_2113

    2 ай бұрын

    Basically it

  • @alexschubertcomedy

    @alexschubertcomedy

    2 ай бұрын

    They also had a kicker in the first round

  • @connorrivers995

    @connorrivers995

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dp_2113 Also Brian Urlacher.

  • @GreenShark-hn7pk
    @GreenShark-hn7pk2 ай бұрын

    2:11 Donovan McNabb was drafted right after Tim Couch, and he was good. This was not the worst QB year, 2022 was

  • @GreenShark-hn7pk
    @GreenShark-hn7pk2 ай бұрын

    2013 had Travis Kelce and DeAndre Hopkins were in this class, but it was still a bad class

  • @nanya524

    @nanya524

    2 ай бұрын

    Xavier Rhodes and Cordarall Patterson

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    2014 NFL Draft Khalil Mack & Aaron Donald both are worthy for the Hall Of Fame for sure 5:20

  • @jondoe4307
    @jondoe43072 ай бұрын

    Wow, didnt know Matthew Stafford has been in league for this long😎

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Lane Johnson was the absolute phenomenal pick by the Eagles the 1st Round 4th overall pick Oklahoma Tackle winning a Super Bowl Championship in 2017 without a doubt he has got the HOF on lock no question about it 9:16

  • @joshualewis7692
    @joshualewis76922 ай бұрын

    2000 did have two bookends in Shaun Ellis and John Abraham. Not to mention some guy named Tom Brady.

  • @aaronking4074

    @aaronking4074

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep

  • @Jondsmusic

    @Jondsmusic

    2 ай бұрын

    I think they're talking about top first round picks.

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Donovan McNabb & Daunte Culpepper had excellent success with there respected teams from the 1999 Draft Class 2:00

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Calvin Johnson was the absolute BEST with the Detroit Lions a former Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket 1st Round 2nd overall pick never ever disappoint 8:46

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Jamal Lewis 1st Round 5th overall University of Tennessee he's won a Super Bowl Ring with the Ravens and he ran for 2000 yards and yet he still doesn't get no Hall Of Fame votes for nothing it's Criminal of the fact that he was a BadAss of a player #31 as a Steelers fan I know damn well Mr.Lewis is a Hall Of Famer in my opinion without a any shout of a doubt cause he deserves respect to be put on his name so give him a Gold Jacket for God's Sakes 6:28

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Donovan McNabb didn't disappoint in his prime in Philadelphia no doubt about it 3:00

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Edgerrin James as well as Bailey had fantastic careers now both are Hall Of Famers 2:06

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Desmond Howard the Heisman Trophy player 1st Round 4th overall University of Michigan 1992 NFL Draft picked by then Washington Redskins but in 1996 he won a Super Bowl Ring and Super Bowl MVP too 10:40

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Eric Fisher 1st Round 1st overall pick out of Central Michigan won a Super Bowl Ring with the Chiefs in 2019 so that's gotta count for something unless if he'd stayed healthy all year long he would be a excellent candidate for the future Hall Of Fame 9:20

  • @GreenShark-hn7pk
    @GreenShark-hn7pk2 ай бұрын

    2014 was a solid class

  • @kaimerager6146
    @kaimerager61462 ай бұрын

    10 best NFL draft classes of all time

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    As a Steelers fan R.I.P Franco Harris at age 22 years old in his prime he's the one who have changed the Steelers for the better but he didn't want to be with them at 1st but at the same time he made one of the best if not the greatest plays in NFL's History of course it's better known as the Immaculate Reception that turned the whole Steelers team into the Dynasty of the 1970's winning all 4 Super Bowl Championships 1974 1975 1978 1979 thanks to Mr.Harris and the rest was history no matter what from here on in Franco Harris is a Hall Of Famer gone but will never ever ever be forgotten Thank You Franco Harris #32 Here we go Steelers here we go we damn sure MISS YOU so very much you are still part of not just the Steelers Family but to the NFL Family Rest In Paradise to the real true Italian Stallone in Mr.Harris🖤💛🖤💛 7:52

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Darrell Rivas was the absolute Truth with the JETS but he won Super Bowl Championship in 2014 with the Patriots now a member of the Hall Of Fame 8:53

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    DeAndre Hopkins sure was a bonafide impact player by the Houston Texans 1st Round 26th overall Clemson 9:33

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Brian Urlacher was the absolute BEST with the Chicago Bears without question 1st Round 9th overall University of New Mexico Lobos a Hall Of Famer too 6:33

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    BJ Raji 1st Round 9th overall Boston College he won a Super Bowl Championship in 2010 with the Green Bay Packers 0:38

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Julius Peppers was a absolute FREAK with the Carolina Panthers 1st Round 2nd overall University of the North Carolina Tar-Heels now he's a member of 2024 Hall Of Fame Class he deserves it but here's a Fun Fact what do Julius Peppers & Donovan McNabb have in common? They both played basketball in there backgrounds too 3:22

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Malcolm Jenkins a 1st Round 14th overall pick Ohio State University a Super Bowl Champion in his rookie season of 2009 New Orleans Saints 0:40

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    At least he won a Super Bowl Ring in 2007 as Eli Manning's backup QB 3:53

  • @lindondixon5140
    @lindondixon51402 ай бұрын

    How does tps still somehow upload garbage to this day

  • @ethandegge3127

    @ethandegge3127

    2 ай бұрын

    Fr they haven't been good in at least 5 years

  • @anthonysilas3420

    @anthonysilas3420

    2 ай бұрын

    They claim to be Total Sports. But all he talks about is the NFL.

  • @ethandegge3127

    @ethandegge3127

    2 ай бұрын

    @anthonysilas3420 they used to talk about every sport nearly but now they do a shit job of covering football

  • @johndomino6057
    @johndomino60572 ай бұрын

    The way you said Urlacher’s name let’s me know you’ve never watched football a day in your life 😂

  • @elitecart3r50
    @elitecart3r502 ай бұрын

    Besides Robinson Bortles and Clowney actually carved out very solid careers

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Joe Thomas was really awesome to watch 1st Round 3rd overall pick Wisconsin had 10,000 snaps and never ever missed a game not by a longshot 8:58

  • @theronin9984
    @theronin99842 ай бұрын

    🦁 WR Herman Moore who was in Farve's class deserves to be in the HOF!

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Matthew Stafford was a great QB with Detroit Lions 1st Round 1st overall pick in 2009 NFL Draft 0:33

  • @Granite95
    @Granite952 ай бұрын

    Gary Vee at 1:40 🤣🤣

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Tim Couch a 1st Round 1st overall pick out of University of Kentucky what a waste he really should've ask for trade to the Carolina Panthers 2:18

  • @AbstractMarcher
    @AbstractMarcher2 ай бұрын

    Pat white's dig on him wasn't fair because he had a severe concussion and ruined his chances at a stable career. He was a journeyman, but he was never the same after that hit.

  • @santiagolerma9672
    @santiagolerma96722 ай бұрын

    Man I can't belive that you put 2007 in this video just because their QBs were bad, this class has 4 hall of famers and at least another 3 players that can make it, If you want a horrible class see 1984 that has 0 hall of famers and their best players are Irvin Fryar and Keith Millard

  • @kman484ify
    @kman484ify2 ай бұрын

    If Donovan McNabb would’ve won a Super Bowl in Philly or a Super Bowl. In his career, he’d be a bonafide first ballot Hall of Famer no doubt

  • @connorrivers995
    @connorrivers9952 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised the 1977 draft isn't on here. It only had two hall of famers in the form of Tony Dorsett and Joe Klecko and tons of busts like Joe Campbell, Wilson Whitley, Ricky Bell, Phil Dokes and Steve Pisarkiewicz. Just awful with very few other impact players like Tony Hill, Rocky Martin and Wesley Walker.

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    What about the 1995 NFL Draft perhaps the 1997 NFL Draft too? 11:08

  • @surferguy1974
    @surferguy1974Ай бұрын

    And you literally forgot to mention 2000 NFL Draft had the GOAT.

  • @nurdyguyz
    @nurdyguyz2 ай бұрын

    Gotta do top 10 best draft classes now

  • @jacksonstock7997
    @jacksonstock79972 ай бұрын

    To be fair to 2013, it did produce Lane Johnson at 4, Deandre Hopkins at 27 and Travis Kelce. Still too early to tell, but at least one will prolly be in canton. Still though, a pretty lackluster draft.

  • @JohanSaavedra-wz5bx
    @JohanSaavedra-wz5bx2 ай бұрын

    You should do this but with the best drafts of all time

  • @gideonpowers5794
    @gideonpowers57942 ай бұрын

    2007? Has 4 hall of famers already and is gonna have 6 with Adrian Peterson and Marshall Ya da. Also Marshawn Lynch, Eric Wedell, Joe Staley, Greg Olsen, Paul Posluszny, Lawrence Timmons, etc. That’s one of the best drafts of the millennium

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Jack Ham was a great impact player 8:06

  • @channinglittle798
    @channinglittle7982 ай бұрын

    2007 was a GREAT draft class. Add 2 more potential HOFERS in AP & beast mode

  • @amit1986
    @amit19862 ай бұрын

    Can you please do 10 best draft classes of all time.

  • @SlowedBloom9188
    @SlowedBloom91882 ай бұрын

    I remember Jason’s ranking of the first 20 drafts of the 21st century, and 2014/2007 were both in the top 3.

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina1232 ай бұрын

    Love your video TPS and keep up the great work you are awesome

  • @jamiemiles8476
    @jamiemiles84762 ай бұрын

    You have the potential hall of famers in 2014 in the first 53 selections 5) Mack 7) Mike Evans 13) Donald 16) Zack Martin 35) Joel Bitonio 53) Davante Adams This list doesn't even include Odell, (6) Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan, Demarcus Lawrence, Jimmy Ward, Derek Carr, Allen Robinson, Trai Turner, Corey Linsley, + A couple dozen solid plays at least. Major error by TPS

  • @samuellaird5184
    @samuellaird51842 ай бұрын

    Could you do a list of the top 10 draft classes next?

  • @randlemarsh
    @randlemarsh2 ай бұрын

    Is this the worsts drafts or worst qb drafts? Two different things

  • @jakemoores9641
    @jakemoores96412 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see idk if it's been done before if not if possible hyped up draft classes that turned out to be a dud and a under hyped draft class that turned out to be the crem de le crem

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Brett Favre is the G.O.A.T 1991 NFL Draft 2nd Round choice by the Atlanta Falcons but he had a greater career with Green Bay from 1992 to 2007 Favre did win a Super Bowl Ring in 1996 after two trips to the big game 3X NFL MVP then he holds all NFL Records until they were broken but he's a Hall Of Famer the real true Gunslinger like no other 4:24

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Peter Warrick wasn't a bad player it's just that he should've been with a worthy real team to win Super Bowl's with like the Buccaneers the Patriots the Steelers or maybe Panthers Giants Falcons and Rams 7:09

  • @jasonholmes9679
    @jasonholmes96792 ай бұрын

    2022 should have been up here, that draft was atrocious

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    David Carr was Sacked an NFL Record 76 times obviously he wasn't the best case in Houston 3:33

  • @leonzaduncan2438
    @leonzaduncan24382 ай бұрын

    No give Sanchez his credit, especially the 2nd AFC championship he was pretty solid that season

  • @harlenpjohnson4065
    @harlenpjohnson40652 ай бұрын

    Now do the ten best draft classes

  • @shaunalbert7681
    @shaunalbert7681Ай бұрын

    You bring up the 2000 draft on the list (and rightly so) and yet you fail to bring up the fact that TOM FREAKING BRADY was in that very draft

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Jadeveon Clowney 1st Round 1st overall pick University of the South Carolina Gamecocks Houston Texans 5:33

  • @tleoipl37
    @tleoipl372 ай бұрын

    2013,2022,1997 in that order

  • @surferguy1974
    @surferguy1974Ай бұрын

    LeSean McCoy is also one of the best players from the 2009 NFL Draft.

  • @cozm1q14
    @cozm1q142 ай бұрын

    I ain’t gonna say anything abt the 2014 draft bc ppl already doing that for me but you can’t use the 76 sacks on Carr as a point to why he was a bust, that was the O-Line’s fault that is actually so atrocious he probably had PTSD and suffered from the the Darnold Syndrome where you see ghost d lineman and throw it away all the time

  • @ReggieKSanshire
    @ReggieKSanshire2 ай бұрын

    2000’s class really didn’t end up being too good. It did have this one dude named Tom Brady, though. How did that dude end up doing, anyway?

  • @genozuzek7401
    @genozuzek74012 ай бұрын

    Yo, Clowney was a BEAST! TF wrong with you, TPS?

  • @philjohnson1988
    @philjohnson19882 ай бұрын

    2007 draft class was one of the best draft class

  • @foustreik
    @foustreik2 ай бұрын

    What’s funny about this is the sadness of how todays game is played. Reach reach reach for athletes and not football players. Today’s game judges players on how they played in 10-20 games against players that will never seen a football field after college! Everyone wants to find the “freek” athlete which is needed, but back in the day players played cause they wanted it more. Now they play because they want money.

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Ed Reed by the Ravens Born and Raised from New Orleans, LA a 1st Round draft pick the University of Miami a Super Bowl Champion in 2012 one of the best if not the greatest real true Safeties in NFL's History alone with Troy Polamalu as well 3:18

  • @gigabyte9584
    @gigabyte95842 ай бұрын

    NFL teams in each division that are likely to go for worst to first in 2024.

  • @MomS-re1eg
    @MomS-re1eg2 ай бұрын

    Why don't you do the top 10 best drafts

  • @Jake-gv7sf
    @Jake-gv7sf2 ай бұрын

    I was drafted in the 6th round in the'02 draft 😅

  • @noahbogoskicards9206
    @noahbogoskicards92062 ай бұрын

    They only said 2 guys in 2007 yet they are 4 hall of famers and more soon to follow. This shouldn't be on this list. It this was the worst QB classes then I can see why

  • @edman813
    @edman8132 ай бұрын

    Why is the 2010 class never on these list? If anything it deserved to be in it instead of the 2014 one. Gronk, Suh, Brown and Trent Williams were a very small selection of great players vs the rest of the mediocre class.

  • @KadeemG61
    @KadeemG612 ай бұрын

    is this a redux because you already made the worst draft classes video back in 2017?

  • @tresrules16543
    @tresrules165432 ай бұрын

    Do this same list based off of the draft class for specific teams. ie: 2019 New England Patriots (still have PTSD from this bullshit), 2020 Las Vegas Raiders, etc.

  • @kevinlb10
    @kevinlb102 ай бұрын

    Enterprise What the hell was the metrics for this list? It makes no damn sense

  • @kellycase100
    @kellycase1002 ай бұрын

    Josh freeman just couldn’t put it together dude had a couple promising seasons and if I remember correctly 1 or 2 really good ones

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Clay Matthews was a 1st Round draft choice University of Southern California won a Super Bowl Ring in 2010 with Green Bay Packers as well 0:50

  • @Talon843
    @Talon84324 күн бұрын

    blud forgot 2014 was Aaron donald davante adams mike evans Demarcus lawrence OBJ ETC

  • @aaronking4074
    @aaronking40742 ай бұрын

    Tom Brady alone makes the 2000 NFL draft one of the best of all time

  • @ripdippy6964
    @ripdippy69642 ай бұрын

    This video is an example of why I had to unsubscribe 😭 he’s gotta be blasted when making these videos. That 2014 take is CRAZY

  • @Love2Musgrave
    @Love2Musgrave2 ай бұрын

    desmond howard ran a kick back in the super bowl i think that's pretty good

  • @stephenporter678
    @stephenporter6782 ай бұрын

    What about the 98’ draft with Ryan leaf

  • @ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987
    @ryaneugenelawrencewalls19872 ай бұрын

    Tom Brady 6th Round 199th overall pick out of Michigan drafted by the Patriots and well as they say was history 7X Super Bowl Champ 6 with Patriots 2001 to 2018 Buccaneers 2020 end of discussion 6:22

  • @nicktaylor2657
    @nicktaylor26572 ай бұрын

    How can you put 2000 draft be on the list when the GOAT was selected Tom Brady? Even at Number 199 Didn't even mention him🤨

  • @henrywallacesghost5883
    @henrywallacesghost58832 ай бұрын

    2024 is the worst class so far because none of the players have done damn thing yet.😂

  • @adamthespinygiant
    @adamthespinygiant2 ай бұрын

    2004 is one of the best if not the best so far this century.

  • @jai2dc529
    @jai2dc5292 ай бұрын

    Bro what is the criteria for a vid like this cause they cooked their own logic by putting 07 in here solely off of qb talent and 1984 had 0 hall of famers but has no mention, but that’s just a few of many issues I have with this list

  • @crooster1
    @crooster12 ай бұрын

    Earl-Lacker FTW!

  • @jasonsmith1288
    @jasonsmith12882 ай бұрын

    Honorable mentions 1988 1994

  • @WENOTMEPRODUCTIONS
    @WENOTMEPRODUCTIONS2 ай бұрын

    So this solely based on quarterbacks?

  • @jerryjanik480
    @jerryjanik4802 ай бұрын

    Desmond Howard wins a Heisman Trophy that goes on to win a Super Bowl and then Wednesday at Super Bowl MVP Super Bowl he's an and he's an NFL bust there must be someone on the staff who's on Buckeyes fan

  • @user-dt5xb7lx1d
    @user-dt5xb7lx1d2 ай бұрын

    how did you forget about tom brady for 2000? The best player of all time isn't mentioned? huh

  • @joshualewis7692
    @joshualewis76922 ай бұрын

    1999:Culpepper,Brooks,Delhomme and Hasselbeck wasn't bad.