It’s baffling to see how WWE treated EC3 so badly. He had all the tools to be a big star. The character, the look, the skills and a great physique.

@eLite-Tiss91

2 жыл бұрын

He should champion at least once...NXT numberous times.

@superrobz

2 жыл бұрын

Same with Robert Roode

@mr.lamont1420

2 жыл бұрын

Everything you mentioned was a problem for hhh. Hater

@oddishhonor

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.lamont1420 HHH was the one who wanted him to come back into NXT. It was most likely Vince or the people around him that didn’t want him.

@blacvonn8689

2 жыл бұрын

The Biggest problem WWE had with Him and Kross is They’re Not ROMAN REGINS

Wwe didn’t just ruin EC3s run, they killed his entire gimmick, and seemingly his brain cells. His TNA run really was special

@marvinleong5902

2 жыл бұрын

If Vince don't understand what your character is and you have no backup ideas/accepting creative pitch for you, then game over. That how EC3 career is

@JacksonIsDeath

2 жыл бұрын

EC3 sucks no matter what so who cares

@gamalierrodriguez3548

2 жыл бұрын

This was the second time they treated EC3 badly

@JacksonIsDeath

Жыл бұрын

@@germansantos5733 don’t care he sucks

@MasterOfViewership

4 ай бұрын

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN . . . E . . . C . . . 3!

Kurt angle has to be the most consistent wrestler of all time. To have a run at the top for 15 years straight in both TNA and wwe is insane. His TNA work was top level

@Drollpanther

2 жыл бұрын

He was lucky he was in wwe first otherwise they would have buried him

@bradykennedy7726

2 жыл бұрын

@@Drollpanther you can’t bury angle lol

@unholyperiodza5442

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradykennedy7726 They did when he faked his injury

@pratikmakwana6198

2 жыл бұрын

Randy Orton smiling in the background

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

idk how to feel about it. He was amazing in TNA but he was also perc'd out of his mind.

Let’s get this straight, EC3 didn’t fail WWE, WWE failed EC3. Guy had everything to be a star and they dropped the ball on him.

@anakinsmith4770

2 жыл бұрын

that's what happens when WWE lacks creativity beyond 1 person. Look at smackdown atm all the belts and it's by far worse than RAW

@loonyn1nja748

2 жыл бұрын

He’s always been trash can’t talk and no where near entertaining in the ring

@alexescutia4805

2 жыл бұрын

@@loonyn1nja748 you never watched ec3

@anijeepa

2 жыл бұрын

@@loonyn1nja748 literally no way you ever watched him if you think this, or you're just trolling

@loonyn1nja748

2 жыл бұрын

@@anijeepa I’ve been watching every televised American wrestling company since the late 80’s yes I’ve seen him yes I think he’s garbage

13:01 I remember that Monty Brown's withdrawal from the sport was because his sister passed away, so he had to take care of her daughter. A class act👏🏼👏🏼🥹🥹

@rogregg29445

2 жыл бұрын

Monty could have been something man though damn Shame he couldn’t have come along 10 years later

@abelardions7600

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogregg29445 yeah. His WWE run was disappointing, but what if his fortunes turned around? He could have become someone like Batista very easiliy. But that's it. It all remains in a big what if...

@SchofieldAJ

Жыл бұрын

@@abelardions7600 Yeah! So that doesn't mean he flopped in the WWE though like this hit Piece thinks it does as dude was on a constant more wins than losses though! But chose FAMILY over the Biz so not a Failure! Just a big What IF?.... Also Chris Harris aka Braden Walker got a few Homemade almost realistic looking WWE HOFame Packages for his short stay as they even gave him a 3 Disc DVD Set so not fail! So CH doesn't really know what FAIL n Success means as you can have a short time somewhere and big successful and heck or stay somewhere and be a FAIL in the long run!

Austin Aries’ run in WWE as Jacob Cass was amazing tho!

@rogregg29445

2 жыл бұрын

Haha underrated comment

@claymathewselevator8121

2 жыл бұрын

Pepperidge Farms Remembers

After their initial WWE run . Gail Kim, Mickie James , Eric young, Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe (somewhat) Gallows, I’m sure there’s more in forgetting .

Almost everybody cause Vince hates when they got popular and made their own gimmicks by themselves and aren't his ideas then he repackaged them gives them terrible gimmicks and outfits and wonder why they fail

@amadorelizondo3848

2 жыл бұрын

@@jshipp5469 Ricochet the top free agent in wrestling at the time any other promotion would slap a world title on that man gets his call up and gets made to look like a bitch by Brock the part timer

@MSI-

2 жыл бұрын

@@amadorelizondo3848 imagine Ricochet no personality no charisma winning the wwe championship

@amadorelizondo3848

2 жыл бұрын

Brock isn't allowed to talk into mic's he's that terrible at it they get Paul to do it for him and ricochet has delay standing suplexed Keith Lee

@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just waiting for this to happen with Cody Rhodes. WWE pretty much just bought "The American Nightmare" gimmick and offered promises of stardom, at the first sign of trouble they're gonna royally fuck Cody. It's just a matter of time.

@Blayzne

2 жыл бұрын

@@amadorelizondo3848 Brock would kick the fucking shit out of Ricochet. Some if us like to watch wrestling that is somewhat believable. If you think Ricochet should beat a guy like Brock, you're a god damn fool and have no idea how wrestling works. I love Ricochet, but let's be realistic.

It's honestly a miracle AJ Styles did as well as he did!

@WIldlifeonTap

2 жыл бұрын

It's not AJ is just that guy. He was the most beloved wrestler to not be in the WWE for a good decade before.

@franklingoodwin

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Only him and Samoa Joe didn't have anything to prove. Everyone knew who they were. Also AJ came over from NJPW so it's a bit different. Bullet Club and all that

@sonicstarman9663

2 жыл бұрын

AJ is good enough that he turned a botch into a mini-story in Chikara and rolled with it. I doubt AJ Styles would've been buried even if they tried, the only thing they could possibly do is to fire him. I think AJ would've taken the worst gimmick ever and just rolled with it. It helped that AJ Styles was allowed to pretty much do what he did in TNA but in WWE. He's like Chris Jericho, I believe that AJ could get the dumbest thing over and like Shawn Micheals, AJ could get a good story and match out of a mop.

@Toomuchforyall24

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact Vince McMahon never heard of aj style which is funny because aj styles wrestled a dark match on velocity. Aj debut at the royal rumble was amazing when Vince heard the huge pop aj got he knew this guy was good. Also stone cold and Paul hey man praised aj styles work. It was no way wwe would bury him aj is one hell of a wrestler and no doubt will go down as one of the greatest this man was a triple crown champ in every promotion he joined.

@mongo7106

Жыл бұрын

AJ is just that good

The worst part about EC3's presentation in WWE was him becoming a mute. By far his greatest attribute is his charisma, and yet the folks on RAW did not take advantage of it.

Surprised at Eric Young and Samoa Joe not being there, in fairness. Like Kross, if you count their NXT stuff then, again, it wasn't bad but with main roster appearances then the ball wasn't just dropped but stabbed and stamped on. Could include Bobby Roode as well but he's still there so might suddenly become a grand slam champ but... naaah.

@sonicstarman9663

2 жыл бұрын

Joe had an alright main roster run. It wasn't great but it wasn't horrible, Eric Young was just flat out barely on the show

@DoctorJango

2 жыл бұрын

Joe actually had a good run though, just cause he didn't win a world title doesn't mean his run was a bust.

@aleeking2602

2 жыл бұрын

Roode got the tag titles and us title and nxt title under his belt in this 40s , now matter what he had a good run , like to see him win the I.c title too

@shanefoy3720

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair they the wwe still destroyed Bobby roode the IT factor of professional wrestling gimmick which was awesome into the glorious bad gimmick of the wwe ridiculous 🙄

@aleeking2602

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanefoy3720 yeah they tryed to fuck him over and to be fair to Roode he was close to 40 and wwe botches tna wrestlers bad and they tried but he is too talented not to be given a shot He won the nxt and us title on his own then they were gunna kill his run but thank god ziggler and him are top 3 best tag teamin wwe

I think Vince thought ec3 was legit Dixie's nephew so decided to saddle him with a mute gimmick

For the most part Roode flopped, he should’ve been world champion a long time ago

It’s a bit unfair to put monty brown, he was getting a push on ecw, on tv every week and a match at wrestlmania, who knows what would have happened if he stayed

Hope we see lots of faces from TNA history at Slammiversary

No. This stars didn't flop. Vince did to them what he always does to those he despises for succeeding without him.

Awesome Kong if used right could have sold a ton of merchandise

@ShiningJudgment666

2 жыл бұрын

She was a victim of bad timing.

I'm convinced wwe signs the biggest stars outside wwe just to hurt that company. They don't care about the wrestler they just signed only that it lowers the value and star power of the company they just took them from. Than they water down that wrestler so much until they take away any value or star power they had. Then they fire them and their value had dropped so much other big companies don't see a star in them anymore and the don't recover. They don't care about who they sign because the made their name elsewhere so the jus ruin a wrestlers career just to get one over on the other company. It's disgusting how they treat wrestlers who grew up dreaming about being in wwe and they mean nutin to wwe. A few have come back but not many.

@Joe90h

2 жыл бұрын

The UK independent scene would probably agree with you there. Although it looks like those days are over.

@LOLMAN9538

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that would work if it were based on Japanese promotions like New Japan or Stardom.

Watching TNA from the start on IMPACTPlus is very enjoyable - the amount of batshit insane stuff on every NWATNA show is worth the subscription price alone

DAMM Adam went off on Austin Aries

@BerylliumGold

4 ай бұрын

Right? Like is there actually heat there?

How is Monty Brown on this list? He left WWE to take care of family members he didn't flop in WWE.

@Ricky-101

2 жыл бұрын

I know right, with all the charisma and having the look that Vince McMahon look for in a wrestler, he would of been the biggest star today if he stayed with WWE.

@unholyperiodza5442

2 жыл бұрын

He was Jeff Jarrett's right hand man, always helping him win his matches. WWE? Got the Lo Down!!!!!! (rimshot)

Impact did a great job with EC3, He was every WWE needed in a star

@gloslimeyo

2 жыл бұрын

lol yeah because of his mom

@akaCypherrr

2 жыл бұрын

@@gloslimeyo oh boy

@unholyperiodza5442

2 жыл бұрын

@@gloslimeyo Auntie not Mom

@richborn6700

2 жыл бұрын

@@gloslimeyo you know Dixie isn't actually related to him right?

@gloslimeyo

2 жыл бұрын

@@richborn6700 worked me lol

I can't wait until we get, in 3 years, "10 TNA wrestlers who FAILED in WWE but succeeded in AEW" or "10 TNA Wrestlers that FAILED in WWE & AEW" 🤣

The Frankie Kazarian hair cut issue will always be a What If thing cause he wouldn’t cut his hair for Vince but when he went back to TNA and cut his hair after forming Bad Influence with Daniels he had the greatest run of his career with a bald head lol

Bobby Roode was money until Vince brought him up as a face

@Foureyezthegamersucksatgames

2 жыл бұрын

He's a good face. He could've probably been a good main eventer tho as either if wwe didn't for some reason hate older guys

@turtlehead2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Foureyezthegamersucksatgames he was a great heel. His whole NXT persona was loosely based off Rick Rude who was an awesome heel. He could’ve been brought up as a heel but his song was over and Vince hates things that he didn’t create lol

You think those Austin Aries' height jokes are funny? I bet you wouldn't kneel and tell them to his face.

imo WWE's inability to book many wrestlers well is truly awesome. imo

The title is a bit misleading. Most of these people didn’t flop but rather weren’t given a real chance.

I still have that 0.01% of hope that we’ll one day hear ‘get ready to fly’ and see AJ walk out into the pyro rain

@cherryt8478

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe on a retirement tour. I hope.

Somehow i knew that EC3 gimmick in WWE would be in TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE TROULBE TROULBE... TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE... WOOOO OOOO WOOOO OOOOO!

Looks like Chelsea Green has recovered

EC3 is always way better off without WWE anyway

It's really heart warming to see that Chelsea Green finally realised her goal.

It's sad how Vince loves big muscular guys then EC3 came back with a better physique and it didn't work out still which is unbelievable. Who knew WWE was right about Kazarian having short hair. So EC3's WWE downfall was his own fault because he didn't mind putting over stars in NXT? I can't believe I didn't notice that Monty Brown was Marcus Corvon

Everybody except AJ Styles lol

@ShiningJudgment666

2 жыл бұрын

AJ Styles was a bit of an anomaly. He skipped developmental and was WWE champion in less than a year and got a long WWE title reign.

Eric Young was also a WWE flop. For that matter, Bobby Roode has not done much in WEE.

@Ryan01224

2 жыл бұрын

He's a former tag team champion and NXT champion so that's not the worst plus given his age they just see him as a reliable hand

@ShiningJudgment666

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryan01224 And US champion shortly after his main roster call-up.

Any wrestler not named Aj Styles or Bobby Roode. They made Abyss a backstage agent

@hiphopdagame

2 жыл бұрын

Roode still could've been more tbh...

I mean unlike other TNA stars that flopped in WWE Walker has a 100% winning streak in WWE & we have the definitive Braden Walker video on KZread that alone makes me feel like his run was worth it

They never flopped Vince just failed to used there potential.

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

No he didn't Most of them were bums who absolutely flopped

@cherryt8478

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjstory1976 except not really. Any wrestler can make it work with the right set of circumstances. It’s on the agents and creative to work with them and create those circumstances.

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@cherryt8478 Except really I am right. I mean did most of these wrestlers help themselves? No they didn't they were either mentally or physically not ready to compete or they were complete asshats who thought they could walk in and be a big shot

@cherryt8478

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjstory1976 not really? Like EC3. Not a fan of his work rn. But back then, dude was in shape mentally and physically, had momentum and hype. Everyone was behind him. And it was squandered.

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@cherryt8478 That's why I said most not all

TNA and WWE did Monty Brown dirty.

Armando Estrada was an underrated manager

Funny the Kazarian ended up cutting his hair anyways

Gail Kim's second run was wasted by WWE too.

Can’t believe they had kaval job not only to men but also women

This should be named "10 TNA Stars Who Joined WWE and Aren't Named A.J. Styles"

It's sad that with all the stars from TNA to WWE, the literal one person that benefited in the long run was AJ Styles.

i would say #1 is braden walker, but he ofc was a legend with a HOF career. it’s not every talent that gets 17 world titles in wwe but braden walker *did it* knock knock

I still hope it works out for Chelsea one day

EC3 being on the list makes sense. Putting him at #6 and not #..3… well.

One of the biggest mistakes was taking away EC3's best weapon: his mouth

EC3 had the worst riding with his first match being against Ambrose just after he announced he was leaving. Vince took the boos the wrong way and that cut his career well in half In wwe

Press 2 to skip the Nord VPN sponsorship. You're welcome.

Damn I can't believe how generic Archer used to look, he looks so distinct and cool now

0:18 seconds in and that one image has me crying with laughter....

the issue is that for the most part vince buries dixie created stars Aj Styles is the exception

Great list!

Tbh when TNA had EC3 as champ and there was the rivalry with him and Matt hardy and Kurt angle and Bobby lashley were a team was top tier and you can’t change my mind

Wait...you're telling me Big E isn't Monty Brown?

I don’t consider Monty a flop he left for family reasons

Chelsea green isn’t a flop not her fault injuries stopped her wwe run

@marcusgilmore5211

Жыл бұрын

I never heard of her do u still wrestle.?..

I miss Red Solo Cup EC3

@thecodester6669

2 жыл бұрын

"Yeah, a crap party for a nothing story, at least i'm on tv"

@claymathewselevator8121

2 жыл бұрын

Makes me think of Toby Keith song

With triple h is head of creative we can see ec3 back to wwe

@yashraman5808

11 ай бұрын

Nah he should stay in nwa he is doing very good there

It's so funny because we all know you wouldn't say that shit to Austin Aries face 🤣

Karrions short little skirt thing + the gimp suit quite didn’t cut it for me

Moral of the story: The grass isnt always greener on the other side

I LOVE the digs on Aries. That shit was funny.

Wild Cat Chris Harris was out of shape in WWE. In TNA he looked like he could be a superstar worthy of a World singles Championship 🏆

@hiphopdagame

2 жыл бұрын

to think everyone had him as the "Shawn Michaels" of AMW BUT Storm became the HBK of the 2...

This is why I'm hoping AEW gets stronger, I remember Christian saying fans thought he retired when instead he was in TNA! It's clear WWE has a hold on the market and it's storytelling is not gonna get any better, too many brand partnerships rely on this storytelling "style" making every superstar look likeva product of WWE, that can't grow past them.

@quentelhill5074

2 жыл бұрын

What he was over as hell in tna 😂😂

@bignige001

2 жыл бұрын

@@quentelhill5074 but he came back to WWE

0:19 Prince Andrew *chefs kiss*

EC3 seriously never got a shot. But then that goes for quite a few of these. Low Ki is still the Gollum of pro-wrestling.

The ropes already hurt, but 6 sides is worse lol

Fixed Title: 10 TNA/IMPACT Stars Who WWE FLOPPED

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah most of them flopped themselves but good try there kid

Some of these names deserve better in WWE

Thanks 🙏

To be fair about Austin Aries height he is an inch taller than I am though

0.20 is that Andrew? 😂😂😂😂

Dont worry folks Vance archer is now lance archer and he doing well going all elite

EC3's issue was being so intrinsically linked to TNA, given the original version of his name is Ethan Carter III. What else are they gonna do with the kayfabe nephew of the head of one of the closest things they had to a rival company. I know people make jokes about Nash's quads but his have nothing against Chelsea Green's wrists. She's injured them like four times or so in the past three years. Hoyt/Archer still surprises the hell out of me. He was and is a flashy big guy who can also play the monster heel. I will admit he was pretty skinny back then and WWE like their big guys to be bulky. Eh, more a big douche in a small pond. Or medium. We do have to account for his height. Monty Brown is an iffy case. I think he would have likely had a pretty entertaining run later on but you can't really say he flopped as he left for personal reasons before anything could get started.

AJ Styles did good only cause he went to Japan first. Had he not, they would've buried him. By the time he came to WWE, TNA was no longer the promising company it once was. Letting AJ Styles go over other talent proved that Hogan had accomplished what he did in WCW eventually ruined it, & abandoned it.

Poor Wildcat 😂

Wwe ruined EC3. Should have been a major talent

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

His career after WWE proved he was never a major star

@83jdc1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjstory1976 it's hard to come back from being a jobber for years.

@mjstory1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@83jdc1 He was only on the main roster for a little over a year so it wasn't "years"

@dr.snakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjstory1976 WWE time runs different. What we perceive as a day could be a week to a WWE superstar. A month to us could be a year to them.

@seanm2600

2 жыл бұрын

I think he could have been a great US champion

EC3 should have been so much bigger than he was! Its a shame that it never went so well for him and at his age now he has little to no chance of him being even half as big as he should

3:00 commercial skip

I would like to see all of SCU come to WWE. Since Kazarian would do better now and Christopher Daniels could get a proper run this time. Don't forget that Chelsea Green beat Charlotte Flair on Main Event. Problem with Kharma was that she went to WWE the wrong time. Didn't Aries get fired because of something to with Stephanie McMahon and not the writing team also it's sad how he had to job to Pac everytime in their rivalry on 205 Live. No no number 1 should've been Chris Hero sure Harris is a good pick but Hero deserves the spot we all know it

Chelsea green getting fired wrong

Epic video

I always thought about EC3 first when it came to this topic and how he went to wwe and just flopped I wouldn’t put it past the old man to get EC3 over there so the TNA ratings would take a fall since they were going back up with that EC3 feud with Bobby Lashley and by them being huge stars in a company that was found dead a couple years before that so he had to snag them back up since they were hot and he was making money off them first

damn he really shat on austin aries, totally granted though

3:00

I love impact wrestling but for some reason never liked killer cross. Had zero personality and was green. Remember watching something else when he was in the ring

I know AEW has far too stacked right now but Killer Kross would be an asset there if given the push

Monty Brown went to same college as my buddy

Get MarkyD123 on straight to hell but he can only nominate Slapnuts related things

It's sad all these guys are awesome wrestlers and wwe didn't know what to do with them and most of them are gone and doing better where there at

How's this any different from what happened to wcw talent after wwe acquired them

good video

Let me guess Chris Harris will be on the list

I thought he would never shut up about nord

Woking Pizza Express is a meme all to ourselves.

The way he talked about austin aries. 😆

@jamondross8717

2 жыл бұрын

Why

@oneorganization501now2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamondross8717 IDK