Waiting for EM-1 path 😉

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Like this comment to keep it on top!

@anishjain1941

Жыл бұрын

@@gkcs Please add EM as well as PM path. I got to see some people from engineering also move directly to PM path. Would like to know the differences and their work.

@ssuriyaprakash1

Жыл бұрын

yeah also discuss path for operational or support roles.

@timepass6935

9 ай бұрын

What is EM

Thanks for making this video. It provided some much needed clarity about career progression as a software engineer. I am currently an SDE1 and often feel the impostor syndrome but this provides me a good sense of direction about what should I improve in my work to get promoted.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Extremely useful content. 20+ years, mountain climbing has begun

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Summit Everest, you'll make it!

Best example of Distinguished Engineer is the legendary Ken Thompson, who create C alongside Dennis Ritchie. He is currently L9 at google and is instrumental in developing Go Lang

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Awesome profile :D

very informative video, gives a lot of insight in SDE progresssion

Great video! I think it would have been good to clarify that the ladder shown is just an example, since the actual career ladder will vary drastically depending on the company (maybe it got lost in the edit.) For example, when I was a Staff Software Engineer at IBM, it only meant I had been at the company for maybe 3 to 8 years, since it's just the second engineering level (band 7 overall). Another example is the position I have now as Principal Software Development Engineer at Oracle, which is just the 4th level in the career ladder, which is still a world away from what other companies call "Principal".

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

That's right, thank you for sharing your experience!

Need more videos regarding these types.... amazing content 👍

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video, Gaurav! Your explanation is very helpful for understanding career progression in the industry. Keep making such amazing videos for us 😉

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I will!

Thanks a lot Gaurav for sharing this.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful!

The quality of his all videos are 🔥

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank You Gaurav for your amazing content

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Nivi!

Thanks man..❤❤❤❤❤

Thanks, very helpful!

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Hats off bro... That was really insightful

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hi Gaurav, amazing video. Can you also make a video about your career progression with years and what you did to get there?

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion :D

HI, Gaurav Sen, I have subscribed to This is my first video from your channel. I really fell in love with your content and explanation. I am an SDE-2 and working hard for SDE-3. video made to focus more on the product eng and Technical solutions. Thanks a lot.

@gkcs

Ай бұрын

Thanks Vijay!

very motivational and informative video, As a SDE 1 or 1.5 🤣, I lost some interest in the carrier path because of all AI enhancement and AI replacing SDE jobs and all. But this again lit some fire, Thanks a lot ❤

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck!

There is one interesting level addition to all these. Its called architect.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

The architect is usually L7, also known as senior staff engineer.

Thanks for sharing.👍.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

Thanks for info.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Always welcome!

Hi, amazing video. Can you also share some tips to progress from one level to another like SDE II -> SDE III

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

For every promotion, you need to perform at the level you want to go to. For example, to go to SDE-3, you must perform as an SDE-3 for 6 months (take responsibility for the team coding standards, manage peripheral system dependencies, etc...)

Top notch content.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great Content But how can you forget Jeff Dean as L10 Most celebrated Engineer at Google.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

I missed him, sorry :)

but usually in service based what happen is, whatever your designation is you work as a developer in most of the cases. I am not sure how one can make it happen to take responsibility as per their designation, it is difficult in service. sector. Everything you do is according to the client needs. And once you try to switch, you need to prepare things according to your experience along with your tech expertise, does not matter what you are gonna do after joining the organisation

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

I am not well versed with the service sector. Thank you for sharing your experience 😁

@sampreeth6575

Жыл бұрын

I do agree with your comment. I am currently in a service based company. What I feel designation is just given based on the number of years of experience. Work content remains the same irrespective of designation. I have personally seen associate engineers, senior engineers, leads do the same work unlike product based companies where entry level (SDE1) does coding mainly and SDE2 focuses more on system design,distributed systems and building large scale systems. So in product companies there is clearly a difference in work based on designation!!

@sampreeth6575

Жыл бұрын

Also in service based companies you are randomly tagged to any project irrespective of your branch, expertise. It's all random over there and the common thing they say is based on requirements and availability you are assigned to so and so project and they try to convince saying even this field is good you need to know everything!!

Thanks Gaurav you always comes up with unique videos, I have some doubts for example for sde2 of some product based or startup might be working on design pattern and microservices architectural patterns but that is not the same case with person working for service based organisations so how to match that level , how would I work on that design patterns and others things that you mentioned since that thing I am not using.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

There are a few options: 1. Look for opportunities at work (discuss with your manager and other teams). 2. Switch to jobs which have such work. 3. Open source.

Btw Sanjay and Jeff dean did map reduce . It’s right to mention both . Btw Jeff’s a distinguished engineer too.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Yes he also jointly built page rank.

You share very rich content 👍 Also please make PM path too

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Hi Gaurav! Awesome video. It provides good clarity on responsibilities at each level. But one thing which I felt missing is what responsibilities will be dropped when being promoted compared to past designations. e.g. L7 engineer might not be performing management responsibilities what he/she used to do as SDE-III

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ravi! That's a very good question! What you should or shouldn't delegate is a tricky question. I'll create a video on this too :D

Software world will change fast. We can't think of decades of careers.

@OKBYE0

6 ай бұрын

even i feel same .. can u say what will be the focus industry in future

Hi, i am a 12 year experienced professional working on Microsoft technologies in a service based company. Is it possible to switch to DSA and get jobs in a product based company and do recruiting companies prefer such transitions?

In the company I work, small but quite well known service-based global company, difference between SDE-intern, I, II are very very less. The work is similar, the only difference being the speed at which you work or productive outputs. Also, the promotions are way too fast, i.e, SDE-I in 1 year is promoted to SDE-II and same is the case for promotion of SDE-II to SDE-III. I heard somewhere that it is bad for higher levels having lower experience in an org. What do you feel?

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

High levels for low experience is an indicator of an exceptional performer, or incorrect leveling.

Hey @Gaurav, can you share a pic or the PDF of the board for future reference?

How to become Salesforce Developer to entry level SDE roles , please guide me

At lot of big companies, I don’t see senior staff level, usually I see staff and then principal, have you observed this as well?

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen that, is there a company you can point me to?

Dig it

What’s the experience required from SDE -3 ?

It would be Great you could do a career path for Test Automation gaurav.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

It is the same for all IC roles 😁

"Shut up and do DSA" - GKCS. Got me good 😂😂

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

"Also, buy my interview course" :p

@s1ddh-rth

Жыл бұрын

@@gkcs will do soon enough!

Wonder what the path is for data scientist

Gaurav be like - " You may become principal engineer soon" Me who is eagerly wanting to get promoted to SDE-2

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

All in good time 😁

None of the senior staff engineers I know are going to be writing a custom network protocol. Seems a bit ambitious to me?

I am a network engineer with 13 years of experience and is a CCIE in routing and switching from 2009. I ve been coding Python, and JS for last 7 years and have build network monitoring system for my organization. If I switch career to full time software engineer role where in this career ladder should I aim for. Thanks

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

I would think you are heading for a senior software engineer role.

@iwoz

Жыл бұрын

@@gkcs thanks. Any skill sets you recommend me to concentrate on to?

What would be the level of an architect?

why not increase the production quality of the videos now? That will make the viewing experience even better to watch

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Hey Pushkar, could you please explain what you mean by that?

bharath who became principal engineer in microsoft in 9 year

Product manager path?

What about Architect and Sr. Architect?

Hi, I am currently SDE1 and thinking of management roles. Is it possible to get into management role without mba, how many of years of experience is needed on a minimum.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

You need about 8 years of experience, at minimum, before you are considered for a management role as an SE.

Amazing video, just one suggestion improve the thumbnail of the videos.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. What would you prefer?

@mohitpatel1641

Жыл бұрын

Take some predefined templates and edit accordingly.

Hey Gaurav I'd say for roles at the higher ups try and invite someone with that first hand experience for a chat too. Because many young engineers here should probably realize how an example career path and scope of responsibilities and impact is not the end-all-be-all template.

The predictability of even the best path is tragic.

What about Architect path. After SDE3 or 4

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

The architect would be a senior staff engineer.

In our company principal engineer comes after distinguished engineer 12:43

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

EM path please! Also does doing MBA after few years of being SDE help for EM path? If not then why do some people do MBA after SDE

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

I think it does help. It helps see the big picture better.

@aishwaryshukla8880

Жыл бұрын

@@gkcs Thanks for replying!

I think it is not fixed based on experience. Sometime based on pay scale companies provide the similar position but work might be different. Like you are as tech lead but working as SDE2. That happened a lot in covid times and even before too

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the size of the company and the funds too, yes.

May I know the position of software architect/ solution architect.

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

It would be at L7, also known as senior software engineer.

@vnarayan100

Жыл бұрын

L7 is actually staff or senior staff engineer correct?

tum bahut mast kam karta hai malum 🫂

Hi Bengali, Precise delineation!

Is Director of Engineering same as Distinguished engineer?

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

They are usually at the same level of a principle engineer.

@akshay-kumar-007

Жыл бұрын

@@gkcs Strange, in my current org(a mid-size startup), there are 3 principle engineers, 1 associate director of engineering, 1 director of engineering, 1 VP of Engineering(not filled currently) and then CTO.

Are SDE different from frontend 😅 Throughout video you assumed sde as backend dev

Please shed some light on topic how AI might affect engineering industry in coming 5-10 years.

Where is the CEO path?

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Ah, the path to poverty :p

Currently I'm just an ex😢

GKCS is a star already

@gkcs

Жыл бұрын

Well, thank you!

You look like Sourabh Mukherjea 😂

PRINCIPAL engineer and not PRINCIPLE engineer. 😄