Fully agree to everything you said! And would add another half point: When you live far from water or it’s too cold, then try a street-surf-board with a wing on a parking space. That is a simple and great combination too, which is very easy to learn, needs unter 10kg of equipment and generates loads of fun.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for watching! Yes, that’s a great idea. I haven’t tried it because we are lucky here in Mallorca that we can go in the water almost every day to train. But you have made a good point and I will se if I can make a video about that. Would be cool to try! Stay safe!

As a life-long Windsurfer, I have transitioned to Wind foiling with traditional windsurfing sails. It extends my range from 15-30 up to 7-35. I get 15-20 more days on the water with my foil than I would just sailing as normal.

@wingfoil_mallorca

6 ай бұрын

Yes, the foil is an additional part that brings many possibilities and a lot of fun! 🤩

Great to see you’re so stoked about wingfoiling. Foiling is the future in our eyes and wingfoiling will and does bring people together from all water sports disciplines and even those people who never tried any water sports before. What we liked about your previous video was: you recommendation to get in touch with a wingfoil school; someone who has a lot more experience than one has in the beginning. You even told that was the way you did it and could correct a lot of beginner mistakes. Now you recommend to rent a wing and try it out cause it’s so easy... we know and we see it’s not a sport people learn in one day. And trying it on their own might actually discourage many people especially if their equipment is not suitable and they will repeat some of the beginner mistakes on and on without knowing it should be done differently to get quicker to success. Another thing about kitesurfing, yes, lines etc. however with proper instructions and safety precautions it’s a safe sport. However, wingfoiling does give a possibility to get on the water where kiting would be close to impossible. Ditching the sport for not being that safe because of the lines is not completely fair. We see the sports to be complementary together with SUP, wakeboarding, windsurfing, surfing etc. the more experience one has the more knowledge of the sea one gets. And it’s all about continuous learning and having fun no matter the sport ;) high five 🖐

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, I do believe people should take a course to lear the right way. It is not as easy as it looks and the chances a rider has to actually stay in the sport will be based a lot of the initial impressions. We all need a lot of stubbornness and a strong will to pursue learning an new sport from zero. That’s where the school comes in. To help you get going better and get results faster. And also get connected in the social circle around the school, I see the social side as very important as well. And if you do several sports you have more chances to be in the water and have fun! Thanks for writing and sharing your thoughts. Where are you guys situated?

@Surfnflycom

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca in Esbjerg & Hvide Sande Denmark. The social side is very important indeed. We were kitefoiling the last two days and winging two days ago. Today both was possible. That’s the awesomeness of these sports. And winging makes me a better kitefoiler and vice versa. Every hour foiling makes one a better rider ;)

I really like this video! I am a kiter and I fully agree with Fred's considerations! See you in the water!

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, great Job! You have the best of two worlds with two sports! But know you surf and paddle as well! So it is actually 4 sports! oh, man thats awesome... A true waterman!

Thanks for good video I want start learn wing Foil soon ,before I doing paddle boarding and windsurfing Take care keep safe on the water 👏👏👍

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Artur, thank you! Yes, give it a try. Rent a wing or even better. Take a course and get to learn it the right way from the beginning. Taking a course is the quickest and safest way to learn. It actually saves you money! Where do you want to be riding? Stay safe!

@arturp2041

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks I bought all equipment 2 months ago still brand new waiting in my home I doing windsurfing today Thanks

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thats outstanding. Where do you ride?

@arturp2041

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Hi I live in Ireland 🇮🇪 now very windy on the spot where I going Courtmascherry and Coolmaine in co.Cork👍🤗

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

@@arturp2041 That must be a great place to live, at least for the windy conditions. Water temperature, hmmm I’m not so sure! 😜 When do you plan to start wing foiling?

Hi Great Observations of why winging will be massive. You used one of my pics in your video. No problems happy to share the stoke.

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Hi Phil, thank you. Oh, did I. Thanks for being cool about it. Which one was yours?

@philplume8349

Жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca 3:03 mins Fanatic SUP and Duotone Slick. It was the first lesson I delivered actually.

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Nice! 🤙

Down in New Zealand wing foiling is definitely the most popular over even kite surfing now. The harbour is dotted with wings on a windy day. I'm even crossing over from wind surfing

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Wow, already? Here many are doing the same. A lot of wind and kiters, who had no interest last year are adding or switching to wing foil. The wing foil fever is spreading like a virus…🤗😂

Hey great info ! Thanks for the useful info. I haven't found a lot of information on windows vs no windows on a wing, any tips on that?

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks. My take on windows is they help some but riding without is not really a problem. Even if you have windows you would still need to lift up the wing to check around before you for example make a jibe. Also wings are in many cases lighter without windows. In my experience I would choose windows if I have to similar wings. But if one wing is more to my liking and it does not have windows I would still go with that one as no windows also works fine. I hope this make any sense. 😃 let me know if you have any detailed thoughts on windows. Where do you ride?

@anikibrother7691

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Hey thanks a lot for your input ! I'm actually looking to get in the sport so I never tried wingfoil. I only have surfed before. But I would ride in New Brunswick Canada. I'm looking at wings here in Canada and here are a few I'm looking at. KT 2022,Wasp by ozone, Duotone 2022 and air rush free walking V2.I think only the KT has no windows. Do you have any recommendations and knowledge on these ? I plan to go 5m. My area has 12-20 wind.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

@@anikibrother7691 Hey, nice to hear you’re giving wing foil a try. Of those wings you mentioned I’ve tried the ozone and it had great power but the handles threw me off. I tried the wasp V1. Maybe they have a newer out? The others I don’t know. But I know they use the Freewing here in El Niño surf Center and they are happy with it. Of course the best way would in you could take them each on a ride but that often isn’t possible. You would probably be fine on either. As you are starting out you don’t know too much about specs and performance in wing foil. So get started with the wing that feels the best or is the most intriguing! ;-) Get a big foil and a board and just get out on water. Do you have foil and board yet? As you progress you will have more knowledge and then you can start shaping out your material more precise to your riding style and conditions. You are in a good spot as it looks when I checked on the map. A bit cold but they make great wet suits these days, right?! 🤩 Let Me know later on how you are doing. Have fun and stay safe.

Price point is very arguable considering current prices. Also, reading as someone was learning some 360 jump trick, and before dialing it in having 3 carbon masts broken.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, Thanks for watching, and yes. It is some money to get all the stuff. But you can of course make a good investment from start by getting some second hand gear. During my time wing foiling, I have heard of people braking some of their stuff but not to any extent. Things happen, but it has been no problem for us here. Learning 360 jump tricks, I guess anything can happen... and that could also turn to be expensive of course.

is the center fin shown at 8:24 a commercial product or homemade? If so, can you tell me the name or provide a link? edit, found it! The Duotone Drift Stopper

@raghuram2815

2 жыл бұрын

There's also a Slingshot SUP Winder. It's one windsurf-style center keel fin. Please let me know how the Duotone Drift Stopper worked for you. I'm debating on which of the 2 to go for!!

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, it’s true the extra fin helps a lot. If you SUP wing and you only have your fins in the back, the difference is you have to get the edge of the board down and you have to work more on the turning of the hips up against the wind. A bit more complicated but very doable. We learnt without the extra fin and it was fine. Any way you do it is great, the most important thing is to be on the water learning to control the direction and how the wing works. You need to get your handling of the wing and “steering” under your belt before you change to the foil. When you get on the foil board you will have more than enough to focus on getting everything to work together. You have a lot of fun ahead. Protect your knees, fight through the initial hard times and then the world of wing foil is open! Have fun and good luck!

Hello,where did you buy the extra fins and how did you put it in the paddle board? Thanks

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrea, look up slingshot they have a Center fin you can stick on your board. Duotone dagger is another option, two fins that goes under your board and are attached with a band around the board. Hope that helps you! Where do you ride?

@andreabai3531

Жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca fuerteventura!!! Thanks

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

I have wind surfed and kite surfed. While kite surfing has more adrenaline, wing surfing gives me many more good sessions. I think you missed in your list through coming from SUP that wing surfing has more ability to depower in very strong winds. Combine that with your mention that in too light winds you can simply put it down and paddle for a while, and then use the energy of your own body to make the difference to get up in very light winds. I also like that it is a low impact sport. Falling is in the water and when up, your foil is under the chop, much smoother than surface riding. People don't quite appreciate at first that this really is a 3D sport. At first it's a complication, a hinderance but later as you move to higher performance equipment, in waves this literally gives a new dimension to surfing and with time you can build the skill to fly the foil under water like an albatross does between the waves, dynamic soaring. exploring the under water energy in the dynamic of waves to an extent not possible on skate board ramps.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks. A good point! Where do you wing foil?

@fluiditynz

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Wellington and Porirua in New Zealand. Wellington often very windy, catches the wind funneled between two islands.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluiditynz That sounds like an interesting point. I visited Wellington in -88 and have good memories. And I was around on the north island a bit and what an amazing place! You’re lucky to have that around where you live. I can guess that the weather can be great for wind sports and quite cold as well in the winter. What’s your typical weather like and what gear do you have?

@fluiditynz

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca I'm too heavy! 115 kg. Wind wings I have my first, and S25 Naish 5.3, not powerful. An O.R. Glide, just the boom is Alula, it's a good wing. A 6m Ensis version 1. Very powerful but usually feels draggy- not so much on my new foils though! A PPC 2.8 and 3.8. Very powerful for their size but the wings do not depower well, I think the handle positions maybe not quite right. Then my foils, 1800sq cm I designed to learn on, 2650 when the Naish wouldn't easily get me up on the 1800, then I started working my way down. A wavy 1400sq cm swept delta mono that I can also ride with a tail, I cand ride it as a mono but i'm not athletic enough to enjoy it much, also there were issues with my CNC mould accuracy and wing thickness. Then I have 4 smaller wings but 2 are my first generation speed wings and 2 are my second gen with wing twist. Higher stall angle, lift and much friendlier al around behaviour. Another mould almost ready for a smaller, faster version and another wing model close to moulding for a more speed optimised version of my 1145. I shifted the twisting out a bit and thinned the profile too. I suspect it will be my new favorite once I complete it. I did my own 93 litre board too but with various changes it's a bit too heavy and I'm soon to take delivery of a Fanatic 5'4 inflateable, I think 110 litres which is plenty for me at my level. Plimmerton is close for me, I can sail it in north east to north west, south west to south east depending on tide, Also many other good spots within 40 minutes drive or less. I can adjust for wind strength by going closer or further from Wellington. Many or the wind surfers now winging and I started the kite exodus to winging, there are about 8 local kiters at various levels of winging now.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluiditynz cool! Man, you have a lot going on. If you keep up the sessions you’ll be down to two digits and that will make wonders on a 115l board. I can imagine the winters can be really windy in the channel. Keep up the good work! If you can send me some photos of your spot. fekermark@gmail.com. Stay safe!

which beach do you launch from in Mallorca

@wingfoil_mallorca

5 ай бұрын

Many, but weekdays normally Can Pastilla.

do you have a link for that hydrofoil which is connected?

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Hi, can you specify a bit more what you mean?

@antonmaier2263

Жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca sry. had a stroke ;-) you showed an image of a hydrofoil with rails between front and rearwing. cant find it online.

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

It’s from Decathlon if I remember correctly. And their own bran Olian.

Дякую👍, класне відео!

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, sorry Idont understand but thanks, I guess! 😃

Of they come up with more foils that aren’t sharp, maybe it actually will be as popular as you say

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

They have done that in Decathlon for beginners. Hard to think it will be something that foils in general will adapt. Will affect performance too much.

Nice video and good reasons. Background music is too loud.

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. I’ll check the levels of the background music. I appreciate you telling me! Where do you ride?

@buenacloud

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca I'm riding 60 and 80L Skywalker Board, Armstrong Foil & F One Strike & Ozone WASP V2. And diverse kitefoils. Very often at your beach in Can Pastilla 🙂 Love this Spot. 🤩

Good afternoon. I plan to start learning wingfoil this summer, I live on the shore of the Sea of ​​Azov. I bought equipment 7.6 feet board, it is a bit big 😅 Foyle 2000 square centimeters, mast 65 centimeters and wing 5 square meters. I will study on my own and I don’t have water sports experience .What are my chances ?

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Alexander, thanks for watching. You did not tell me of your possible previous knowledge of water sports. So what I can tell you is that you have a good chance to learn. Your equipment is good for learning. Make sure you have at least 12, but preferably 14-15 knots when you practice. With more wind it is easier to learn. Get some knee protection. You will thank me for the advice! 😃 And look at my videos over and over to memorize the steps you need to learn and the go out and practice and practice. Don't worry if you dont get it directly, you will. And you will be a wing foiler if you want to! You can do it! Good Luck and let me know how it goes!

@Alexander-tc5gd

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Thanks for the answer 😊👍 I have no experience in water sports, a year ago I got excited to learn wingfoil. For a year now I have been studying everything I can find on KZread, not only wingfoil but also sailing in general. After all, I must understand that such a tack and how it works in general. For half a year I am constantly on a ballansboard, soon I will start going to the beach to train with the wing.

@Alexander-tc5gd

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Wind is not a problem, 14-15 knots is not uncommon.

@Alexander-tc5gd

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca The Sea of ​​Azov is very shallow, we have windsurfing and kite surfing, but there is no surfing on the waves, because our waves are low and short, but the foil makes it possible to surf even on such waves, and I am overwhelmed by the opportunity to do what was previously considered impossible on our sea. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@Alexander-tc5gd

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca I've known about worn knees for a long time 😅I already chose a wetsuit 😉And I already bought knee pads 😊

As a windsurfer and kitesurfer I wish I could disagree.

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

😅 This year the trend is even clearer. Most riders of windsurf that I know have added wing foil to their quiver. Now less windsurfers and less kite surfers are visible on a daily basis. The amount of wing foilers in the sea here have exploded. Have you got wing foilers gear yet?

@blackwetdog

Жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca Not yet, planning on buying next year. Unfortunately don't have the time this year. Glad to hear it's not harder than wind- or kitesurfing. :) Thanks for the video.

@wingfoil_mallorca

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great, you have a lot of fun in front of you! Everyone learn at a different pace, many says it’s even easier to learn than Kitesurf. Good luck!

Super!

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thank you EMO! See you in the water!

True !!!!!

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we’ll find out. But the sport is marching on now in a crazy high tempo. Where do you ride?

Not true! It will not take kitesurfing because of the higher jumps and just completely different feeling of flying

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

That's true. Kite surf has really high and long jumps. But for people in general, they would much easier learn to wing foil than to kite. That is what I mean in my video. More people will do wing foil than kite or wind. And when wing foil gets into the olympics, then it will explode! We'll see if you or I will be right in the coming years. Thanks for watching! More is on the way! Subscriber?

@russkielol

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca like I said you can’t compare 2 since they both are for different ppl. Winging will not replace kiting and kiting will not replace winging. Just a fact

@wingfoil_mallorca

2 жыл бұрын

@@russkielol Yes, I agree. Like all sports appeal to different people. Which is great. Have you tried Wing foil?

@russkielol

2 жыл бұрын

@@wingfoil_mallorca the only benefit I see is riding waives. We don’t have waives here so I just fool with my kite behind the boat.

@PiperEMcDermot

Жыл бұрын

@@russkielol they will not replace each other but they are also not for different people...many enjoy both sports. We were lucky to meet professional kite Paula Novotna recently. She told us she took up wing foiling for the new challenge but also because it is easier on a woman's body especially at high professional levels. She was tired of spending so many gym hours to build her legs for protection kiting. With wingfoiling, time training on the water helped her more. She won ladies wingfoiling world champs a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, jus think that both sports can be for anyone, just depends on the individual and maybe the accessibility of their local conditions for learning.