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@pxblade2 жыл бұрын
"I'm the bad guy?... How'd that happen? I did everything they told me to." Such a sad realization he has.
@helluvagooddrawer2027
Жыл бұрын
Whats that from
@darrenbeilke6173
Жыл бұрын
@@helluvagooddrawer2027 Falling Down
@helluvagooddrawer2027
Жыл бұрын
@@darrenbeilke6173 cool
@John-bj1zx2 жыл бұрын
Clyde Shelton in Law Abiding Citizen. He's the villian, but with how he was written and the things he went through, you want him to win but you know that he shouldn't because of what he wants to do.
@lile9279
2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!
@jasonibbs
2 жыл бұрын
I still maintain that he actually did win. He made Foxx's character realize the cost of taking the easy way in making deals to avoid the possibility of losing. Win or lose, Shelton wanted someone to fight for him and his family, not just treat it as a routine transaction and on to the next deal.
@konstellashon1364
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonibbs yeah. Since Nick resorted to illegal means to stop Clyde, I kinda see it like what Joker (Heath Ledger) said: "I took Gotham's white knight, and brought him down to our level."
@MikeScott55
2 жыл бұрын
100% this.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Great movie ruined by Foxx's ego. Shit ending because Foxx had him "win" in the end.
@cjb127472 жыл бұрын
How is "Law Abiding Citizen" not on this list, (where I actually fully expected it to be number 1). Clyde Shelton was not only a genius in his planning/execution of his revenge, but he had a completely understandable motivation for his rampage. I will also admit i was sometimes rooting for John Kramer in the Saw movies (especially in Saw VI with those POS insurance company workers)
@sgt.marcusstacker
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was just about to say that about Law Abiding Citizen. Shelton’s revenge was both brilliant and understandable. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want him to succeed with his bombing at the film’s climax.
@The_Farmish_One
2 жыл бұрын
Because that movie was trash.
@Anurepa
2 жыл бұрын
My exact thought! I honestly have a love/hate relationship with that film specifically because they did TOO good at making Clyde likable. I wanted him to win so badly that I was upset by the ending of the movie.
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Law Abiding Citizen! For the Win!!😃👌
@MikeScott55
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@blakeharris58 Жыл бұрын
Hannibal Lecter wasn’t the villain in The Silence of the Lambs. He was a side character whose influence helped the protagonist defeat the true villain, Buffalo Bill.
@kyleziegler22882 жыл бұрын
Prince Nuada, Hellboy 2: The Golden Army. The best example of a sympathetic villain. that I've ever seen.
@jbolin75
Жыл бұрын
Roy Batty in Blade Runner.
@xxxsully420
Жыл бұрын
What about killmonger in Black Panther
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
@@xxxsully420 also Vulture and Zemo?
@steveperks6022 жыл бұрын
When Stephen Spielberg directed "Jaws," he made major changes to the novel because he said that he found the main characters so unlikeable, he actually wanted the shark to win!
@_XR40_
Жыл бұрын
If you read the novel, they _are_ pretty obnoxious...
@thesouloftheinternet4829
Жыл бұрын
jacking a spot just to say, n'jadaka
@amgdirect2 жыл бұрын
MAD RESPECT for reaching back for a classic black & white-era film for this list! These films get so little attention in the internet era, and this was a breath of fresh air, given the WEALTH of fantastic films of the time. Way to go WhatCulture!
@mikespike2099
2 жыл бұрын
Those were the times when actors actually had to act well and it was more about actors/actresses' onscreen presence that made the movie.... today alas it is much the opposite! One recent one I liked that was like these was the movie The Outfit
@bulyakiistvan87742 жыл бұрын
The character of Ed Harris from the movie Rock, is the one I'm missing here the most. Yes, he turns out to be a "good guy" in the end, but his methods were questionable enough in my opinion, that he could have made the list.
@Paganwhitewolf
4 ай бұрын
Brigadier General Francis X. Hummel! And yes, I was just going to mention him! I can really empathize with what he's trying to achieve, though he does it in a really bad way.
@metalcorequeen2 жыл бұрын
I think Denzel Washington was a brilliant casting in Training Day. Most people were just so used to seeing him as the good guy it really comes as a rug pull when you see him for what he is. I think that was done on purpous and its an excellent use of our own pre-prepared expectations.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but nobody wanted his character to win in the end. Great villain, but unsympathetic
@dr.rhowsen
Жыл бұрын
A much better Denzel Washington villain role that you want to win is Frank Lucas in American Gangster
@robertobuatti72262 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere every villain thinks they're the hero of their own story, I can't remember where I read that but ever since I did every time I watch a villain onscreen I think how did they get to this point.
@thefuturist8864
2 жыл бұрын
It’s true that the best wrestling heels are the ones who don’t realise that they’re the bad guys (though obviously the person themselves knows).
@robertobuatti7226
2 жыл бұрын
@@thefuturist8864 Yes definitely, I also think writers have to know their character so they can tell a good story and flesh out their characters, as the one's mentioned on this list.
@bluegypsydoll
2 жыл бұрын
🤔🧐
@Elf-1975
2 жыл бұрын
Tom Hiddleston said about his character Loki “Every villain is a hero in his own mind” John Barth said “Everyone is the hero of their own life story” 🤷🏻♀️
@BigJeremyBeyer
2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine believed he was bringing peace to the galaxy.
@4amlibra2 жыл бұрын
Not having Law Abiding Citizen on this list is an absolute crime.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
The bigger crime is the ending
@everlenaoliver69122 жыл бұрын
7:15 I actually felt so bad for Michael Douglass ' character in Falling Down, I cried when he died at the end. 😥
@carastone3473
2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard for me to feel bad for the white man who sees himself as a victim after his kind spending literally HUNDREDS of years victimizing POC and women.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
He was a little too unhinged to sympathize with. Still a great movie though.
@TheDealMaster
Жыл бұрын
This should be on this list. I agree.
@Jaime.Lannister
2 ай бұрын
He's a principled man that speaks for all of us that our intrusive thoughts won't let us who couldn't take it anymore.
@jules-yi8rn2 жыл бұрын
Falling Down is classic because the protagonist is 'us' trying to do the right thing and losing at every turn. Sure it's a touch nihilistic at times, but I still respect Foster's journey and Michael Douglas completely owned that role.
@steveperks602
2 жыл бұрын
His bewilderment at the end ("Am I the bad guy here.... how did that happen?") is just heartbreaking.
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is exactly right! Falling Down!
@dBOTHERER2 жыл бұрын
really thought law abiding citizen would be on here, high on the list too.
@kevinmaddox41982 жыл бұрын
I think falling down is about me. When you lose so much until theres nothing left to live for, snapping becomes an option. I refuse to go off the rails though. I see my little girl every week and that's why I'm still alive.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
It's a sad statement that this movie highlights how much we need a break just to survive. Not even succeed. When life doesn't give you that break, you lose. Hope, persistence, patience. If life wo t work out for me, I'll do it myself.
@stabbr8551
Жыл бұрын
There are only 5 things you need to survive: oxygen, water, food, fire and shelter in that order. Sometimes you just have to survive to get to a place worth living again.
@klydejohnson75202 жыл бұрын
Law abinding citizen is probably the top movie where I wanted a villain to win and was a Lil mad when he didnt🖤
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Thank Jamie Foxx's ego for ruining the end.
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and also Zemo from Civil War
@salvadormendozaz5192
Жыл бұрын
What about Neil from Heat? My wife and I found ourselves cheering for him and were disappointed when he didn’t
@stevenmccart54552 жыл бұрын
I definitely did NOT want Denzel Washington to win in Training day. Proof what a great actor he is.
@Yamieddie2 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa whoaaaa. Where's Law Abiding Citizen? Not only should that movie be on the list, but it should be number 1 too for the way we symphonthyze for the villain and the only reason the good guy won was because the main star of the film threatened to walk unless he got the win, making it all right that we get screwed by the system.
@JKLiving922 жыл бұрын
Jules, your motivational quips at the end of your videos really hit hard when its what I need to hear. Thank you.
@justagirl7511 Жыл бұрын
I would add the movies Blow, with Johnny Depp playing George Jung, Ray Liotta's portrayal of Henry Hill in Goodfellas, and Woody Harrelson/Juliette Lewis as Mickey and Mallory Knox in Natural Born Killers.
@carastone34732 жыл бұрын
While talking about silence of the lambs, you actually said, ‘…the entire state of Baltimore…’ Um, Baltimore is a CITY, not a state. 🤣
@BigRed182
2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I combed the comments to make sure I didn't hear it wrong.
@geraldmartin7703
2 жыл бұрын
Specifically at 4:30.
@uknighte
Жыл бұрын
And he actually escaped from Memphis, not Baltimore.
@cleverboy867
Жыл бұрын
Give him a break, he's British
@uknighte
Жыл бұрын
@@cleverboy867 and I am South African 😂
@TonyBakercomedy2 жыл бұрын
Never knew that Baltimore was a state until i watched this Video. Lol.
@kjl4983
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment!
@EASNOS259
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for it too
@ministerchadtasticg5082
2 жыл бұрын
That makes4 of us unfamiliar with The entire state of Baltimore
@RedNinja1152 жыл бұрын
Not a movie but I think Ward from agents of shield fits the description of this list so well, I loved his character and was rooting for him for the entire time he was on the show and was quite upset when he finally died
@pturnerification2 жыл бұрын
Loved these movies! Reminds me of my first reading of the novel, "The Chocolate War". Bad guys win, heroes lose, and the corruption of life continues on. Truly left me baffled and quiet, like The Empire Strikes Back kind of ending.
@julesmasseffectmusic
2 жыл бұрын
That book was why my schools furniture was welded.
@soulsnatcha402
2 жыл бұрын
Love that book
@coleenwilliams66562 жыл бұрын
Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. Khan, in this case, is a mirror version of Kirk. If Kirk's crew were kidnapped and threatened and he was forced to do things he doesn't want to do in order to keep them safe, I argue that he would have done almost everything Khan did to save the people he cared about. And, in the end, it's Khan who does win because he is reunited with his crew.
@robbypodobinski824
2 жыл бұрын
100%
@AceSpadeThePikachu
Жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Into Darkness is underrated. Sure, it doesn't hold a phaser to the original Wrath of Khan (let's not forget how compelling Ricardo Montalban's depiction of the character was), but Benedict Cumberbatch brought his a-game to the roll and made it his own rather than try and one-up Montalban. I especially loved the final chase scene between him and Spock. Never before in Trek had I scene such an action spectacle of two super-strong characters beating the crap out of each other while performing parkour Tom Cruise would be proud of.
@glennbabic59542 жыл бұрын
The joker shooting those guys on the subway was based on Bernie Goetz who in 1984 shot some hoods on the NY subway and became a hero (although there was debate as to whether he was in real danger, if he used excessive force, and if the heightened crime and fear in NY at the time excused any overreaction).
@deathtime5288
2 жыл бұрын
Actually that incident was inspired from another movie where the protogonist of the movie was completely opposite of joker i think joker is actually everything evil and worst things of a human being the movie did a very disgusting greedy idea to turn that into a hero by changing characteristics of the character and giving him characteristics of The Thomas Wayne And The Bruce Wayne And giving Joker's characteristics to joker shows how much industry has gone greedy because all of people who support this!
@robbypodobinski8242 жыл бұрын
Tom cruise in collateral was so unbelievably cool! I'd kill for a entire movie about that character
@kristfallon9989 Жыл бұрын
What about historical villains like 'Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid'? Their deaths in Bolivia, after being cornered by the local federales, was truly heartbreaking. Robert Redford & Paul Newman really made you love these guys even as they became public enemies 1& 2!
@jasonpatrick56602 жыл бұрын
What about Gerrard Butler's character in Law Abiding Citizen?
@natsune092 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see Mr Pink from 'Reservoir Dogs' to win in the end.
@wyldhowl2821
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I carry this hope that he blasted his way free of the police once again and escaped.
@IAmWBeard2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Hannibal show Mads version over the movie Hopkins version. Also didn't hate the final season. Really really really want a session 4.
@lefroy12 жыл бұрын
Training Day was a superb film, but no way did I want denzel to win. When the Russians pulled up alongside, I was like 'Karma, dude!'
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nobody did. He's just a villain. A great one but unsympathetic
@lefroy1
2 жыл бұрын
@@crankfastle8138 It was when he murdered his 'buddy' Roger (Scott Glenn), just to steal his stash that I knew he was never gonna get my sympathy. So cold!
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I wanted him to win
@Syurtpiutha2 жыл бұрын
They should have kept the bonkers motivation Thanos originally had. I get why they didn't, and a lot of audiences would disagree with me. But he's called the MAD Titan for a reason (and it's not being multi ability dependant).
@Cacuofa Жыл бұрын
Who wanted thanos or denzel to win? Missed this one. You had a clockwork orange, pulp fiction, oceans eleven…
@OnceUponaDie2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it for many years, but as soon as I saw the title of this video I thought of Edward Fox’s character from The Day of the Jackal (1973). Even since I watched the movie, I have carried with me a great deal of respect for how seeing much of the movie from the Jackal’s perspective gives the viewer permission to root for him, even though we know what he is doing is wrong and doomed to failure.
@dougiehawes9162 жыл бұрын
DIE HARD!!! every Christmas (and yes it is a Christmas movie) I always hope I have stumbled across a directors cut when Hans Gruber wins.
@mattmccomas12 жыл бұрын
I was 100% wanted Ethan Hawke to take Denzel down in Training Day. Denzel was great, but I actually cared for Hawke, and he was great.
@tkmariner
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I can't imagine people rooting for Alonzo.
@Nephyness
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I am surprised that the movie was on this list considering nobody I know in person would root for Denzels character.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Great villain, but unsympathetic or relatable. Nobody wanted Denzel to win that day.
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I wanted him to win, I love when the bad guy beats the good guy😎
@TrevorCopter2 жыл бұрын
I know there was no reason to bring it up, but MAN, Third Man has an AMAZING score. Jaunty and riveting, seriously a one of a kind in noir
@christinecremen4151
Жыл бұрын
Love that zither !
@TheSteveStrom2 жыл бұрын
This is a really great list. I think it’s a fantastic conversation. Every entry on the list belongs here. Looking forward to the next volume. Killmonger would a worthy addition to that next list.
@Anurepa
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best, most sympathetically written villains ever, imo.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anurepa wildly disagree. Sorry, he "kills" T'challa, takes a throne he didn't deserve, mobilizes his war dogs around the world so the people that "look like us" can take the world. Literally decided wakandan weapons needed to be distributed first. Not one altruistic or selfless action by him. He's just an angry man who wants to punish the world because his dad was killed after betraying his king and country.
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
Along with Mr Glass,Zemo and the vulture
@bwilson213452 жыл бұрын
I’m so confused how Daniel Day Lewis is the villain in there will be blood, he killed 2 ppl who were one trying to trick him and the second was trying to finesse him. He’s at most an anti-hero
@tylerposing3585
2 жыл бұрын
He’s more of a stand-in for capitalism, which is the real villain of the movie. Based on an Upton Sinclair book (Oil!).
@bwilson21345
2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerposing3585 interesting I might need to read that, I love movies like this because the main character is flawed like real life but you still want him to succeed
@MURD3RWAVE2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Training Day. I wanted something to catch up with him.
@Fakeaorta2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for Magneto and Cumberbatch as Kahn in 'Into The Darkness'.
@sanmerci9 ай бұрын
I've spent a depressing amount of time without Jules videos on WhatCulture. So happy to see you back!
@pacman_birthmark2 жыл бұрын
If you want filmic morality ambiguity, check out Shane Meadows' 'Dead Man's Shoes.' Not an easy watch. 😅
@Goddessvenom
2 жыл бұрын
That movie is haunting.
@thefuturist88642 жыл бұрын
I’ve just started watching this and am hoping that Robin Williams’s character from One Hour Photo isn’t in this list, because it should be clear he’s not a villain.
@nickperna88242 жыл бұрын
Wolf of Wall Street! I know Leo's take on Jordan Belfort is absolutely amazing, you know he's going to go down at somepoint, and you know he's just a despicable individual, but man do uou enjoy watching him!
@joelgordon78142 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that Tamara wasn’t in there: she’s hated by several students, her mother left, her dad was a sicko and she’s love-starved, with her teacher being the only source of comfort in her life.
@robbypodobinski8242 жыл бұрын
Dude. I have the number 1 "villain". Clive Owen in inside man! His character was so amazing. And whats even better, he wins!!! It's such a happy ending. I love that movie so much
@caincha2 жыл бұрын
Character for character sake - leaving aside the actor's performance itself - Falling Down should be #1. For one he does do what we all wanted to do at one time or another and also for the fact that if anything he needed help more than the others on this list which becomes clear at the end. And as for Thanos oh the irony... in the movies they show how nature recovers after half the population is wiped out then comes the pandemic and lo and behold: nature starts recovering as soon as humans are quarantined.
@lueysixty-six73002 жыл бұрын
I was definitely not rooting for Alonso in training day! By the third act.. when he's stalking the rookie in the project houses.. the Denzel character is like a monster from a horror movie!
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I was rooting for him
@gailpatterson87402 жыл бұрын
Jules message at the end always hits on a day I need it most. Thank you!
@kevinbetts27202 жыл бұрын
"the entire state of Baltimore", man how I love you Brits 🤣
@drakkondarkspell2 жыл бұрын
"I'm the bad guy?" "Yeah." "How did that happen?"
@thewalkingthrones91652 жыл бұрын
What about Law abiding citizen?
@skooterbrah2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, you haven't had the delightful experience of seeing "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot"!
@lefroy12 жыл бұрын
What about Law Abiding Citizen? I for one, would've liked a different ending.
@brianericisking
2 жыл бұрын
The way I understood it was he was suppose to get away with it but Jamie Foxx refused to do movie unless he could win at the win
@lefroy1
2 жыл бұрын
@@brianericisking Man! If that's true it sucks. You'd think the director would've put his foot down and said 'the proper ending, or we hire another actor.'
@jtompkins1277 Жыл бұрын
Nice message at the very end. Hit the nail on the head.
@RavynAngelDarck Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jules, you total legend!!! Much love to you!!!
@jamesmoore844 Жыл бұрын
"Has rarely put a foot wrong." Love it!
@just_some_internet_guy2 жыл бұрын
Heat was amazing, as was Silence of the Lambs!
@jcwoodman52852 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader... I sooooooo wanted him to grease all the ewoks😘
@shanesawhutchison92552 жыл бұрын
Good list. I would have put, “Law Abiding Citizen”, in there too. Gerard Butler was amazing in it…I wanted him to get away scott free. Cheers. 🇨🇦
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
He supposed to win the day. But jamie fox's ego got in the way
@andrewmcnamara63058 ай бұрын
According to TV Tropes this list would be an example of "Rooting for the Empire."
@michaelcarter93952 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Pep talk Jules; it's why I like your work.
@katfromthekong4142 жыл бұрын
Jules, you are a delight as always!
@Tiabliaj1989 Жыл бұрын
Hummel, played by Ed Harris, in The Rock. I absolutely wanted him and David Morse's characters to win.
@RomaroBrandon2 жыл бұрын
Honorable Mentions: Law Abiding Citizen & Grudge Match
@mamakat7176 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, every time I see Thanos I can't help but see Josh Brolin riding a little girls bike with the training wheels popping off in The Goonies movie🤣
@mancima2 жыл бұрын
He may be a bit obscure for this list but I think Edward Lionheart from Vincent Price’s ‘Theater of Blood’ should be on this list too. Price is so good that I pretty much root for any villain he plays (Dr. Phibes could probably be added to this list) but here he plays a wronged Shakespearean actor who is savaged by the critics guild. Interestingly many of their criticisms were leveled at Price in real life. After he supposedly kills himself Lionheart proceeds to kill each critic in a manner from one of the plays of Shakespeare that he acted in. The critics are played as pretty vile characters (except for one) and the kills are done with such style that it’s regrettable when Lionheart finally dies. It’s a really a fun movie if you haven’t seen it.
@christinecremen4151
Жыл бұрын
Great choice- love that movie !
@jevinday2 жыл бұрын
I have only seen There Will Be Blood once, and that was back in 2015. I bought it at a Pawn Shop on dvd like 2 weeks ago (it's currently 2022) because it was $1. I really need to watch it again. Paul Thomas Anderson is amazing. we should start a Paul Thomas Anderson fan club and call it the PTA hahaha. hold the meeting at a school and when all the moms walk we'll start off Daliel Plainview abandoning his son lol
@rmglover31912 жыл бұрын
This list BEGS a "WhatCulture" philosophy video. No. 1 was a welcome stunner. Honorable mention to "Changing Lanes!"
@FedExpress662 жыл бұрын
Was stoked to see Collateral on this list, glad I’m not the only one!
@downrazor11 Жыл бұрын
Some movies that could be added: -Law Abiding Citizen -Watchmen -Bram Stoker's Dracula -The Accountant -The Mummy (1999) -Pulp Fiction -Star Trek Into Darkness
@austinwatson67682 жыл бұрын
You cannot have this list without including Law Abiding Citizen or Faster although he really did away with it in Faster but deservedly so...
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Faster was a weak movie (imo). But yeah, law abiding citizen should be on top. You can thank Jamie foxx for that ending
@rofalsaurasrex366 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a list of top ten early cinema influences like buster keaton lorel and Hardy and fatty arbuckle and Charlie chaplain I think it would be interesting
@treehouse3182 жыл бұрын
loving you too, Jules! and Denzel Washington.🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@djcjr1x1 Жыл бұрын
Great outro by Jules as always he's the hero of this vid!
@jbolin75 Жыл бұрын
What we didn't know in Infinity War was that there were Celestial's to be born in each major civilization's planet waiting for enough souls to consume the energy to be born. Thanos being half eternal / half deviant, knew this and it was also a way of actually saving entire worlds by eliminating half of the population therefore keeping the dormant celestial from having what it needs to erupt. Maybe uncle Thanos wasn't that bad after all.
@victoriagowans2 жыл бұрын
Erik Killmonger is the sympathetic villain Marvel wishes Thanos was. His backstory and goals are entirely relatable while his actions still remain clearly condemnable. In comparison, Thanos feels cheap.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
His plan was to arm his war dogs around the world with Wakandan weapons and take the world. Kill mongers goals aren't relatable, he's an asshole who wants to kill T'challa and take a throne he doesn't deserve.
@cawest329
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I just posted this before I saw your comment.
@iamyourfather4270
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Thanos is the most iconic character in Marvel, at least 10X popular than Killmonger ever will be. Killmonger was forgotten in 1 movie, whereas Thanos' shadow has haunted the MCU ever since Infinity War.
@TheHound402
Жыл бұрын
No, no he is not. You need to control your white guilt, it clouds your judgment.
@safs3098
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, an ethno nationalist that wanted global domination and oppress people he didn't like, a very sympathetic villain indeed if you're into ethnosupremacy.
@BroodallyHonest2 жыл бұрын
Travis Bickle? Tony Montana? Henry Hill? Heath Ledger's Joker? Jules from Pulp Fiction?
@buzzsawgr812 жыл бұрын
and the interesting thing about thanos' "wipe out half to save the other half" strategy is that it's proven prior to the movie that it doesn't work. in the first guardians movie when they're doing the record scan of gamora it shows she's the last of her people, meaning that wiping out half the population of her planet only succeeded in dooming the other half to extinction.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
It's a massively complicated task. Wipe out half and thrive. Because the snap is dispassionate, there is no way of knowing who is gone. An entire society may lose too many of their best and brightest to recover and thrive. Thus doomed to eventual extinction.
@rogershore7189
Жыл бұрын
And that’s why the movie version of Thanos’ crusade to wipe out half the universe doesn’t work quite as well as the comic book crusade did, where he was doing it in an effort to win the affection of Death.
@scottbruffy90712 жыл бұрын
I watch Jules' videos till the end for the positive encouragements.
@williamthomas33592 жыл бұрын
Ok, Estella was not the villain in Cruella, it was the Baroness. She sent the dogs to kill her parents and manipulated Estella to her will.
@alexdawson868 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see The Third Man here, one of my favourites
@arthurj.downeyjr.2013 Жыл бұрын
Great video! One little nitpick though, Baltimore is a city in the state of Maryland. I'm a geography nerd I couldn't let that go.
@GrandPoppyA2 жыл бұрын
Great choice for #1. One of my favorite.
@rogeebear100232 жыл бұрын
Three quick things; 1. "rarely put a foot wrong in his entire career" is that a cheeky My Left Foot reference or am I reading into it too much? 😅 2. I think the protagonist in Inside Man, Killmonger in Black Panther and Tyler Durder in Fight Club would be good additions to the next list as well ☺️ 3. As always, thank you Jules for your content I don't think anyone else could have presented this list as you did! Big Love my friend 😊
@redfive5856
2 жыл бұрын
You think the protagonist of Inside Man is a villain?
@fadingfrost2617
2 жыл бұрын
Ditto for Tyler in Fight Club! Excellent call!
@rogeebear10023
2 жыл бұрын
@@redfive5856 Well, he is trying to rob a bank and 'allegedly' killing hostages within it. Everyone in that movie kinda wins besides 'Arthur' (the banker guy)
@redfive5856
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogeebear10023 Dalton is no villain.
@safs3098
Жыл бұрын
Why Killmonger? Didn't the dude want world domination by his "race" of people? Basically a Wakandan Hitker
@TheSteveStrom2 жыл бұрын
Collateral is the best Tom Cruise performance of the past few decades.
@ragabashmoon1551 Жыл бұрын
8:45 I felt like Cruella was an alternate universe where 101 Dalmatians isn't going to happen to be honest... I guess if we ever get Cruella 2 we'll find out for sure, but I just feel like she didn't actually blame the dogs in the end and even loved them when she gave the freakin' puppies to the two families.
@williamrhodes86112 жыл бұрын
Ngl the heartfelt message jules leaves keeps my faith humanity in tact
@treehouse318
2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT?!? it's unexpected but wonderful to have someone you don't even know validate your humanity and your worth. speaking of which, i hope you have a great day filled with joy.😄
@CaptainMoonMoon Жыл бұрын
A good entry would be the Devil's Rejects, from trilogy "The house of a thousand corpses", " The Devil's Rejects" and "The Three from Hell"
@cstephen982 жыл бұрын
It falls into the classic trope that a truely great villain is a hero in their own story
@_scabs6669 Жыл бұрын
"To reunite with his wife and daughter." Shit the man had me thinking they were the same person for a second 😂
@jessicaamari70462 жыл бұрын
What about Clyde from Law Abiding Citizen?! I wanted him to win.....mostly
@TheKalaxis2 жыл бұрын
Thanos didn't go far enough
@patrickmusson45712 жыл бұрын
Thanos had the right idea by realizing that there is a shortage of resources in the universe but there are too many life forms fighting for said resources. Thanos just went about it the wrong way.
@Just_Pele
2 жыл бұрын
No he didn't. In 50 years the universe would be in the same predicament, and then what? Round up the stones and snap again?
@Trueamerican0717
2 жыл бұрын
Why not just make infinite resources or increase resources exponentially. I mean if you can wipe out half of all life I think you could increase resources.
@ASirensFlame
2 жыл бұрын
If we're wiping out 50% of the world I vote India, all of Africa and south America
@freakshopusa
2 жыл бұрын
@@Just_Pele When he destroyed the stones, he ensured that the population would eventually double and be in the same predicament. All he did was buy some time. Not much of a savior. They were infinity stones, presumably imbued with infinite power. He wanted to retire to gardening. Why not use that power to maintain a neverending garden? His pathology drove him to his solution to the predicted problem.
@konstellashon1364
2 жыл бұрын
@@freakshopusa yup. I've seen Criminal Minds episodes that explain Thanos's pathology- he suffered trauma, didn't process it, projects it onto others, and forces his solution, occasionally taking a survivor as a souvenir. Then he repeats the cycle.
@jakethomson29912 жыл бұрын
Uhm, Baltimore is a "city" in the "state" of Maryland. HTH
@joefelice5062 Жыл бұрын
10:14, doh!! Daniel didn’t break his leg looking for oil. It was silver.
Пікірлер: 576
"I'm the bad guy?... How'd that happen? I did everything they told me to." Such a sad realization he has.
@helluvagooddrawer2027
Жыл бұрын
Whats that from
@darrenbeilke6173
Жыл бұрын
@@helluvagooddrawer2027 Falling Down
@helluvagooddrawer2027
Жыл бұрын
@@darrenbeilke6173 cool
Clyde Shelton in Law Abiding Citizen. He's the villian, but with how he was written and the things he went through, you want him to win but you know that he shouldn't because of what he wants to do.
@lile9279
2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!
@jasonibbs
2 жыл бұрын
I still maintain that he actually did win. He made Foxx's character realize the cost of taking the easy way in making deals to avoid the possibility of losing. Win or lose, Shelton wanted someone to fight for him and his family, not just treat it as a routine transaction and on to the next deal.
@konstellashon1364
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonibbs yeah. Since Nick resorted to illegal means to stop Clyde, I kinda see it like what Joker (Heath Ledger) said: "I took Gotham's white knight, and brought him down to our level."
@MikeScott55
2 жыл бұрын
100% this.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Great movie ruined by Foxx's ego. Shit ending because Foxx had him "win" in the end.
How is "Law Abiding Citizen" not on this list, (where I actually fully expected it to be number 1). Clyde Shelton was not only a genius in his planning/execution of his revenge, but he had a completely understandable motivation for his rampage. I will also admit i was sometimes rooting for John Kramer in the Saw movies (especially in Saw VI with those POS insurance company workers)
@sgt.marcusstacker
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was just about to say that about Law Abiding Citizen. Shelton’s revenge was both brilliant and understandable. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want him to succeed with his bombing at the film’s climax.
@The_Farmish_One
2 жыл бұрын
Because that movie was trash.
@Anurepa
2 жыл бұрын
My exact thought! I honestly have a love/hate relationship with that film specifically because they did TOO good at making Clyde likable. I wanted him to win so badly that I was upset by the ending of the movie.
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Law Abiding Citizen! For the Win!!😃👌
@MikeScott55
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
Hannibal Lecter wasn’t the villain in The Silence of the Lambs. He was a side character whose influence helped the protagonist defeat the true villain, Buffalo Bill.
Prince Nuada, Hellboy 2: The Golden Army. The best example of a sympathetic villain. that I've ever seen.
@jbolin75
Жыл бұрын
Roy Batty in Blade Runner.
@xxxsully420
Жыл бұрын
What about killmonger in Black Panther
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
@@xxxsully420 also Vulture and Zemo?
When Stephen Spielberg directed "Jaws," he made major changes to the novel because he said that he found the main characters so unlikeable, he actually wanted the shark to win!
@_XR40_
Жыл бұрын
If you read the novel, they _are_ pretty obnoxious...
@thesouloftheinternet4829
Жыл бұрын
jacking a spot just to say, n'jadaka
MAD RESPECT for reaching back for a classic black & white-era film for this list! These films get so little attention in the internet era, and this was a breath of fresh air, given the WEALTH of fantastic films of the time. Way to go WhatCulture!
@mikespike2099
2 жыл бұрын
Those were the times when actors actually had to act well and it was more about actors/actresses' onscreen presence that made the movie.... today alas it is much the opposite! One recent one I liked that was like these was the movie The Outfit
The character of Ed Harris from the movie Rock, is the one I'm missing here the most. Yes, he turns out to be a "good guy" in the end, but his methods were questionable enough in my opinion, that he could have made the list.
@Paganwhitewolf
4 ай бұрын
Brigadier General Francis X. Hummel! And yes, I was just going to mention him! I can really empathize with what he's trying to achieve, though he does it in a really bad way.
I think Denzel Washington was a brilliant casting in Training Day. Most people were just so used to seeing him as the good guy it really comes as a rug pull when you see him for what he is. I think that was done on purpous and its an excellent use of our own pre-prepared expectations.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but nobody wanted his character to win in the end. Great villain, but unsympathetic
@dr.rhowsen
Жыл бұрын
A much better Denzel Washington villain role that you want to win is Frank Lucas in American Gangster
I read somewhere every villain thinks they're the hero of their own story, I can't remember where I read that but ever since I did every time I watch a villain onscreen I think how did they get to this point.
@thefuturist8864
2 жыл бұрын
It’s true that the best wrestling heels are the ones who don’t realise that they’re the bad guys (though obviously the person themselves knows).
@robertobuatti7226
2 жыл бұрын
@@thefuturist8864 Yes definitely, I also think writers have to know their character so they can tell a good story and flesh out their characters, as the one's mentioned on this list.
@bluegypsydoll
2 жыл бұрын
🤔🧐
@Elf-1975
2 жыл бұрын
Tom Hiddleston said about his character Loki “Every villain is a hero in his own mind” John Barth said “Everyone is the hero of their own life story” 🤷🏻♀️
@BigJeremyBeyer
2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine believed he was bringing peace to the galaxy.
Not having Law Abiding Citizen on this list is an absolute crime.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
The bigger crime is the ending
7:15 I actually felt so bad for Michael Douglass ' character in Falling Down, I cried when he died at the end. 😥
@carastone3473
2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard for me to feel bad for the white man who sees himself as a victim after his kind spending literally HUNDREDS of years victimizing POC and women.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
He was a little too unhinged to sympathize with. Still a great movie though.
@TheDealMaster
Жыл бұрын
This should be on this list. I agree.
@Jaime.Lannister
2 ай бұрын
He's a principled man that speaks for all of us that our intrusive thoughts won't let us who couldn't take it anymore.
Falling Down is classic because the protagonist is 'us' trying to do the right thing and losing at every turn. Sure it's a touch nihilistic at times, but I still respect Foster's journey and Michael Douglas completely owned that role.
@steveperks602
2 жыл бұрын
His bewilderment at the end ("Am I the bad guy here.... how did that happen?") is just heartbreaking.
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is exactly right! Falling Down!
really thought law abiding citizen would be on here, high on the list too.
I think falling down is about me. When you lose so much until theres nothing left to live for, snapping becomes an option. I refuse to go off the rails though. I see my little girl every week and that's why I'm still alive.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
It's a sad statement that this movie highlights how much we need a break just to survive. Not even succeed. When life doesn't give you that break, you lose. Hope, persistence, patience. If life wo t work out for me, I'll do it myself.
@stabbr8551
Жыл бұрын
There are only 5 things you need to survive: oxygen, water, food, fire and shelter in that order. Sometimes you just have to survive to get to a place worth living again.
Law abinding citizen is probably the top movie where I wanted a villain to win and was a Lil mad when he didnt🖤
@tallboy2234
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Thank Jamie Foxx's ego for ruining the end.
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and also Zemo from Civil War
@salvadormendozaz5192
Жыл бұрын
What about Neil from Heat? My wife and I found ourselves cheering for him and were disappointed when he didn’t
I definitely did NOT want Denzel Washington to win in Training day. Proof what a great actor he is.
Whoa whoa whoaaaa. Where's Law Abiding Citizen? Not only should that movie be on the list, but it should be number 1 too for the way we symphonthyze for the villain and the only reason the good guy won was because the main star of the film threatened to walk unless he got the win, making it all right that we get screwed by the system.
Jules, your motivational quips at the end of your videos really hit hard when its what I need to hear. Thank you.
I would add the movies Blow, with Johnny Depp playing George Jung, Ray Liotta's portrayal of Henry Hill in Goodfellas, and Woody Harrelson/Juliette Lewis as Mickey and Mallory Knox in Natural Born Killers.
While talking about silence of the lambs, you actually said, ‘…the entire state of Baltimore…’ Um, Baltimore is a CITY, not a state. 🤣
@BigRed182
2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I combed the comments to make sure I didn't hear it wrong.
@geraldmartin7703
2 жыл бұрын
Specifically at 4:30.
@uknighte
Жыл бұрын
And he actually escaped from Memphis, not Baltimore.
@cleverboy867
Жыл бұрын
Give him a break, he's British
@uknighte
Жыл бұрын
@@cleverboy867 and I am South African 😂
Never knew that Baltimore was a state until i watched this Video. Lol.
@kjl4983
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment!
@EASNOS259
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for it too
@ministerchadtasticg5082
2 жыл бұрын
That makes4 of us unfamiliar with The entire state of Baltimore
Not a movie but I think Ward from agents of shield fits the description of this list so well, I loved his character and was rooting for him for the entire time he was on the show and was quite upset when he finally died
Loved these movies! Reminds me of my first reading of the novel, "The Chocolate War". Bad guys win, heroes lose, and the corruption of life continues on. Truly left me baffled and quiet, like The Empire Strikes Back kind of ending.
@julesmasseffectmusic
2 жыл бұрын
That book was why my schools furniture was welded.
@soulsnatcha402
2 жыл бұрын
Love that book
Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. Khan, in this case, is a mirror version of Kirk. If Kirk's crew were kidnapped and threatened and he was forced to do things he doesn't want to do in order to keep them safe, I argue that he would have done almost everything Khan did to save the people he cared about. And, in the end, it's Khan who does win because he is reunited with his crew.
@robbypodobinski824
2 жыл бұрын
100%
@AceSpadeThePikachu
Жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Into Darkness is underrated. Sure, it doesn't hold a phaser to the original Wrath of Khan (let's not forget how compelling Ricardo Montalban's depiction of the character was), but Benedict Cumberbatch brought his a-game to the roll and made it his own rather than try and one-up Montalban. I especially loved the final chase scene between him and Spock. Never before in Trek had I scene such an action spectacle of two super-strong characters beating the crap out of each other while performing parkour Tom Cruise would be proud of.
The joker shooting those guys on the subway was based on Bernie Goetz who in 1984 shot some hoods on the NY subway and became a hero (although there was debate as to whether he was in real danger, if he used excessive force, and if the heightened crime and fear in NY at the time excused any overreaction).
@deathtime5288
2 жыл бұрын
Actually that incident was inspired from another movie where the protogonist of the movie was completely opposite of joker i think joker is actually everything evil and worst things of a human being the movie did a very disgusting greedy idea to turn that into a hero by changing characteristics of the character and giving him characteristics of The Thomas Wayne And The Bruce Wayne And giving Joker's characteristics to joker shows how much industry has gone greedy because all of people who support this!
Tom cruise in collateral was so unbelievably cool! I'd kill for a entire movie about that character
What about historical villains like 'Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid'? Their deaths in Bolivia, after being cornered by the local federales, was truly heartbreaking. Robert Redford & Paul Newman really made you love these guys even as they became public enemies 1& 2!
What about Gerrard Butler's character in Law Abiding Citizen?
I wanted to see Mr Pink from 'Reservoir Dogs' to win in the end.
@wyldhowl2821
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I carry this hope that he blasted his way free of the police once again and escaped.
I prefer the Hannibal show Mads version over the movie Hopkins version. Also didn't hate the final season. Really really really want a session 4.
Training Day was a superb film, but no way did I want denzel to win. When the Russians pulled up alongside, I was like 'Karma, dude!'
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nobody did. He's just a villain. A great one but unsympathetic
@lefroy1
2 жыл бұрын
@@crankfastle8138 It was when he murdered his 'buddy' Roger (Scott Glenn), just to steal his stash that I knew he was never gonna get my sympathy. So cold!
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I wanted him to win
They should have kept the bonkers motivation Thanos originally had. I get why they didn't, and a lot of audiences would disagree with me. But he's called the MAD Titan for a reason (and it's not being multi ability dependant).
Who wanted thanos or denzel to win? Missed this one. You had a clockwork orange, pulp fiction, oceans eleven…
I haven’t seen it for many years, but as soon as I saw the title of this video I thought of Edward Fox’s character from The Day of the Jackal (1973). Even since I watched the movie, I have carried with me a great deal of respect for how seeing much of the movie from the Jackal’s perspective gives the viewer permission to root for him, even though we know what he is doing is wrong and doomed to failure.
DIE HARD!!! every Christmas (and yes it is a Christmas movie) I always hope I have stumbled across a directors cut when Hans Gruber wins.
I was 100% wanted Ethan Hawke to take Denzel down in Training Day. Denzel was great, but I actually cared for Hawke, and he was great.
@tkmariner
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I can't imagine people rooting for Alonzo.
@Nephyness
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I am surprised that the movie was on this list considering nobody I know in person would root for Denzels character.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Great villain, but unsympathetic or relatable. Nobody wanted Denzel to win that day.
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I wanted him to win, I love when the bad guy beats the good guy😎
I know there was no reason to bring it up, but MAN, Third Man has an AMAZING score. Jaunty and riveting, seriously a one of a kind in noir
@christinecremen4151
Жыл бұрын
Love that zither !
This is a really great list. I think it’s a fantastic conversation. Every entry on the list belongs here. Looking forward to the next volume. Killmonger would a worthy addition to that next list.
@Anurepa
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best, most sympathetically written villains ever, imo.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anurepa wildly disagree. Sorry, he "kills" T'challa, takes a throne he didn't deserve, mobilizes his war dogs around the world so the people that "look like us" can take the world. Literally decided wakandan weapons needed to be distributed first. Not one altruistic or selfless action by him. He's just an angry man who wants to punish the world because his dad was killed after betraying his king and country.
@srstriker6420
Жыл бұрын
Along with Mr Glass,Zemo and the vulture
I’m so confused how Daniel Day Lewis is the villain in there will be blood, he killed 2 ppl who were one trying to trick him and the second was trying to finesse him. He’s at most an anti-hero
@tylerposing3585
2 жыл бұрын
He’s more of a stand-in for capitalism, which is the real villain of the movie. Based on an Upton Sinclair book (Oil!).
@bwilson21345
2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerposing3585 interesting I might need to read that, I love movies like this because the main character is flawed like real life but you still want him to succeed
I disagree with Training Day. I wanted something to catch up with him.
I was hoping for Magneto and Cumberbatch as Kahn in 'Into The Darkness'.
I've spent a depressing amount of time without Jules videos on WhatCulture. So happy to see you back!
If you want filmic morality ambiguity, check out Shane Meadows' 'Dead Man's Shoes.' Not an easy watch. 😅
@Goddessvenom
2 жыл бұрын
That movie is haunting.
I’ve just started watching this and am hoping that Robin Williams’s character from One Hour Photo isn’t in this list, because it should be clear he’s not a villain.
Wolf of Wall Street! I know Leo's take on Jordan Belfort is absolutely amazing, you know he's going to go down at somepoint, and you know he's just a despicable individual, but man do uou enjoy watching him!
I’m surprised that Tamara wasn’t in there: she’s hated by several students, her mother left, her dad was a sicko and she’s love-starved, with her teacher being the only source of comfort in her life.
Dude. I have the number 1 "villain". Clive Owen in inside man! His character was so amazing. And whats even better, he wins!!! It's such a happy ending. I love that movie so much
Character for character sake - leaving aside the actor's performance itself - Falling Down should be #1. For one he does do what we all wanted to do at one time or another and also for the fact that if anything he needed help more than the others on this list which becomes clear at the end. And as for Thanos oh the irony... in the movies they show how nature recovers after half the population is wiped out then comes the pandemic and lo and behold: nature starts recovering as soon as humans are quarantined.
I was definitely not rooting for Alonso in training day! By the third act.. when he's stalking the rookie in the project houses.. the Denzel character is like a monster from a horror movie!
@kobeisthegoat5767
Жыл бұрын
I was rooting for him
Jules message at the end always hits on a day I need it most. Thank you!
"the entire state of Baltimore", man how I love you Brits 🤣
"I'm the bad guy?" "Yeah." "How did that happen?"
What about Law abiding citizen?
Obviously, you haven't had the delightful experience of seeing "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot"!
What about Law Abiding Citizen? I for one, would've liked a different ending.
@brianericisking
2 жыл бұрын
The way I understood it was he was suppose to get away with it but Jamie Foxx refused to do movie unless he could win at the win
@lefroy1
2 жыл бұрын
@@brianericisking Man! If that's true it sucks. You'd think the director would've put his foot down and said 'the proper ending, or we hire another actor.'
Nice message at the very end. Hit the nail on the head.
Thank you Jules, you total legend!!! Much love to you!!!
"Has rarely put a foot wrong." Love it!
Heat was amazing, as was Silence of the Lambs!
Darth Vader... I sooooooo wanted him to grease all the ewoks😘
Good list. I would have put, “Law Abiding Citizen”, in there too. Gerard Butler was amazing in it…I wanted him to get away scott free. Cheers. 🇨🇦
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
He supposed to win the day. But jamie fox's ego got in the way
According to TV Tropes this list would be an example of "Rooting for the Empire."
Thanks for the Pep talk Jules; it's why I like your work.
Jules, you are a delight as always!
Hummel, played by Ed Harris, in The Rock. I absolutely wanted him and David Morse's characters to win.
Honorable Mentions: Law Abiding Citizen & Grudge Match
I'm sorry, every time I see Thanos I can't help but see Josh Brolin riding a little girls bike with the training wheels popping off in The Goonies movie🤣
He may be a bit obscure for this list but I think Edward Lionheart from Vincent Price’s ‘Theater of Blood’ should be on this list too. Price is so good that I pretty much root for any villain he plays (Dr. Phibes could probably be added to this list) but here he plays a wronged Shakespearean actor who is savaged by the critics guild. Interestingly many of their criticisms were leveled at Price in real life. After he supposedly kills himself Lionheart proceeds to kill each critic in a manner from one of the plays of Shakespeare that he acted in. The critics are played as pretty vile characters (except for one) and the kills are done with such style that it’s regrettable when Lionheart finally dies. It’s a really a fun movie if you haven’t seen it.
@christinecremen4151
Жыл бұрын
Great choice- love that movie !
I have only seen There Will Be Blood once, and that was back in 2015. I bought it at a Pawn Shop on dvd like 2 weeks ago (it's currently 2022) because it was $1. I really need to watch it again. Paul Thomas Anderson is amazing. we should start a Paul Thomas Anderson fan club and call it the PTA hahaha. hold the meeting at a school and when all the moms walk we'll start off Daliel Plainview abandoning his son lol
This list BEGS a "WhatCulture" philosophy video. No. 1 was a welcome stunner. Honorable mention to "Changing Lanes!"
Was stoked to see Collateral on this list, glad I’m not the only one!
Some movies that could be added: -Law Abiding Citizen -Watchmen -Bram Stoker's Dracula -The Accountant -The Mummy (1999) -Pulp Fiction -Star Trek Into Darkness
You cannot have this list without including Law Abiding Citizen or Faster although he really did away with it in Faster but deservedly so...
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
Faster was a weak movie (imo). But yeah, law abiding citizen should be on top. You can thank Jamie foxx for that ending
Would love to see a list of top ten early cinema influences like buster keaton lorel and Hardy and fatty arbuckle and Charlie chaplain I think it would be interesting
loving you too, Jules! and Denzel Washington.🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Great outro by Jules as always he's the hero of this vid!
What we didn't know in Infinity War was that there were Celestial's to be born in each major civilization's planet waiting for enough souls to consume the energy to be born. Thanos being half eternal / half deviant, knew this and it was also a way of actually saving entire worlds by eliminating half of the population therefore keeping the dormant celestial from having what it needs to erupt. Maybe uncle Thanos wasn't that bad after all.
Erik Killmonger is the sympathetic villain Marvel wishes Thanos was. His backstory and goals are entirely relatable while his actions still remain clearly condemnable. In comparison, Thanos feels cheap.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
His plan was to arm his war dogs around the world with Wakandan weapons and take the world. Kill mongers goals aren't relatable, he's an asshole who wants to kill T'challa and take a throne he doesn't deserve.
@cawest329
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I just posted this before I saw your comment.
@iamyourfather4270
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Thanos is the most iconic character in Marvel, at least 10X popular than Killmonger ever will be. Killmonger was forgotten in 1 movie, whereas Thanos' shadow has haunted the MCU ever since Infinity War.
@TheHound402
Жыл бұрын
No, no he is not. You need to control your white guilt, it clouds your judgment.
@safs3098
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, an ethno nationalist that wanted global domination and oppress people he didn't like, a very sympathetic villain indeed if you're into ethnosupremacy.
Travis Bickle? Tony Montana? Henry Hill? Heath Ledger's Joker? Jules from Pulp Fiction?
and the interesting thing about thanos' "wipe out half to save the other half" strategy is that it's proven prior to the movie that it doesn't work. in the first guardians movie when they're doing the record scan of gamora it shows she's the last of her people, meaning that wiping out half the population of her planet only succeeded in dooming the other half to extinction.
@crankfastle8138
2 жыл бұрын
It's a massively complicated task. Wipe out half and thrive. Because the snap is dispassionate, there is no way of knowing who is gone. An entire society may lose too many of their best and brightest to recover and thrive. Thus doomed to eventual extinction.
@rogershore7189
Жыл бұрын
And that’s why the movie version of Thanos’ crusade to wipe out half the universe doesn’t work quite as well as the comic book crusade did, where he was doing it in an effort to win the affection of Death.
I watch Jules' videos till the end for the positive encouragements.
Ok, Estella was not the villain in Cruella, it was the Baroness. She sent the dogs to kill her parents and manipulated Estella to her will.
Glad to see The Third Man here, one of my favourites
Great video! One little nitpick though, Baltimore is a city in the state of Maryland. I'm a geography nerd I couldn't let that go.
Great choice for #1. One of my favorite.
Three quick things; 1. "rarely put a foot wrong in his entire career" is that a cheeky My Left Foot reference or am I reading into it too much? 😅 2. I think the protagonist in Inside Man, Killmonger in Black Panther and Tyler Durder in Fight Club would be good additions to the next list as well ☺️ 3. As always, thank you Jules for your content I don't think anyone else could have presented this list as you did! Big Love my friend 😊
@redfive5856
2 жыл бұрын
You think the protagonist of Inside Man is a villain?
@fadingfrost2617
2 жыл бұрын
Ditto for Tyler in Fight Club! Excellent call!
@rogeebear10023
2 жыл бұрын
@@redfive5856 Well, he is trying to rob a bank and 'allegedly' killing hostages within it. Everyone in that movie kinda wins besides 'Arthur' (the banker guy)
@redfive5856
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogeebear10023 Dalton is no villain.
@safs3098
Жыл бұрын
Why Killmonger? Didn't the dude want world domination by his "race" of people? Basically a Wakandan Hitker
Collateral is the best Tom Cruise performance of the past few decades.
8:45 I felt like Cruella was an alternate universe where 101 Dalmatians isn't going to happen to be honest... I guess if we ever get Cruella 2 we'll find out for sure, but I just feel like she didn't actually blame the dogs in the end and even loved them when she gave the freakin' puppies to the two families.
Ngl the heartfelt message jules leaves keeps my faith humanity in tact
@treehouse318
2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT?!? it's unexpected but wonderful to have someone you don't even know validate your humanity and your worth. speaking of which, i hope you have a great day filled with joy.😄
A good entry would be the Devil's Rejects, from trilogy "The house of a thousand corpses", " The Devil's Rejects" and "The Three from Hell"
It falls into the classic trope that a truely great villain is a hero in their own story
"To reunite with his wife and daughter." Shit the man had me thinking they were the same person for a second 😂
What about Clyde from Law Abiding Citizen?! I wanted him to win.....mostly
Thanos didn't go far enough
Thanos had the right idea by realizing that there is a shortage of resources in the universe but there are too many life forms fighting for said resources. Thanos just went about it the wrong way.
@Just_Pele
2 жыл бұрын
No he didn't. In 50 years the universe would be in the same predicament, and then what? Round up the stones and snap again?
@Trueamerican0717
2 жыл бұрын
Why not just make infinite resources or increase resources exponentially. I mean if you can wipe out half of all life I think you could increase resources.
@ASirensFlame
2 жыл бұрын
If we're wiping out 50% of the world I vote India, all of Africa and south America
@freakshopusa
2 жыл бұрын
@@Just_Pele When he destroyed the stones, he ensured that the population would eventually double and be in the same predicament. All he did was buy some time. Not much of a savior. They were infinity stones, presumably imbued with infinite power. He wanted to retire to gardening. Why not use that power to maintain a neverending garden? His pathology drove him to his solution to the predicted problem.
@konstellashon1364
2 жыл бұрын
@@freakshopusa yup. I've seen Criminal Minds episodes that explain Thanos's pathology- he suffered trauma, didn't process it, projects it onto others, and forces his solution, occasionally taking a survivor as a souvenir. Then he repeats the cycle.
Uhm, Baltimore is a "city" in the "state" of Maryland. HTH
10:14, doh!! Daniel didn’t break his leg looking for oil. It was silver.
"Aspiring Comedian" 😂😂
The Talented Mr. Ripley is another one.