A gut wrenching detail about Icheb's death that would've haunted Seven is that his captors were dissecting him in attempt to recover his Cortical Node. But from the Voyager episode 'Imperfection', we know that Icheb doesn't have a Cortical Node, as he donated his to Seven to save her life.

"YOU SHOULD HAVE LET ME SLEEP!!" Khan's line to Marcus as he kills him is brilliant....

I'm surprised Picard gunning down the borg with a tommy gun isn't on the list. It's the moment we see Picard's true feelings towards the Borg come out. It's a great moment.

@victorvance2573

3 жыл бұрын

You´re absolutely right! That was a great scene.

@maxwell_edison

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, had to include the modern action-movie startreks in. Cus those are totally the most brutal ones in their own context.. not

@paulannable3734

3 жыл бұрын

Same Picard who refused to send Hugh back to destroy the Borg? No, that was Movie Picard

@xtzyshuadog

2 жыл бұрын

Action Movie Picard was confusing.

@KittyStarlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@xtzyshuadog Well, they have to have enough action, so I suppose *that* probably explains it then. But only sort of.

Also if you're adding the Kelvin universe, I'd say Nero's destruction of Vulcan just to spite Spock is an epic act of revenge.

@terryfuldsgaming7995

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why include jj Abrams garbage? It's not really star trek. The last actual star trek was ds9. Voyager was garbage, the new movies are even worse.

@NucleusBrain

4 жыл бұрын

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 I think you don´t get to decide what is Star Trek and what is not.

@_Boobear_

3 жыл бұрын

@@NucleusBrain Kelvin timeline is crap and jj even admitted to making his version of star trek to be more like star wars..so fuck him and anyone who thinks its real star trek

@NucleusBrain

3 жыл бұрын

@@_Boobear_ I wouldnt mind getting fucked so theres that

@redapol5678

3 жыл бұрын

@@terryfuldsgaming7995 love the logic. You go even further than other haters by not even counting Voyager as _“real”_ Star Trek. The logic of “if I don’t like it, it’s not real”. ok buddy 🤣 If you want to live your life like that, you go for it, but let the rest of us enjoy the shows without your hate (disagreeing is one thing, but pure hatred is something completely different)

I think the worst part of Icheb’s death is that the component they were torturing him for he had donated to Seven 25 years ago.

Where's Nero destroying Vulcan in an act of revenge against Spock?

@trh4982

4 жыл бұрын

#11

@Ithinkiwill66

4 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! He brutally sliced through the Kelvin, seeing a body sucked into space, and others blown around, and Nero slicing his sword into Captain Robu, and those Vulcans getting sucked into the massive destruction of Vulcan....oh and where is Enterprise series?? LOTS of revenge on Enterprise, specifically in the Dark Mirrior universe

@savage1267

4 жыл бұрын

JJ is such an imbecile.

@JeanLaValley

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ithinkiwill66 Dark Mirror Universe doesn't count... as it's anti-star trek... BUUUTTTTTT... Nero destroying Vulcan AND trying to do the same to earth for the death of his wife and unborn child... IS PRETTY FARKING BRUTAL

@eddroddy1281

4 жыл бұрын

That should be #1. Destroying a WHOLE PLANET is definitely a revenge record.

How can you include the Kelvin Timeline Khan and exclude DS-9's Blood Oath? That was an 80 year revenge plot by three Klingon Master Warriord and Dax against The Albino

@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit

4 жыл бұрын

Because they didn't watch every episode. They probably just made an obscure poll on Reddit and called it a day

@savage1267

4 жыл бұрын

JJ pissed on everything.

@savage1267

4 жыл бұрын

@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit agree

@VJAllison1974

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering that myself.

@RogueTangent

4 жыл бұрын

That's the one I thought of first. Awesome plot.

OK, great list, and I'm really enjoying these videos, but I gotta argue about Sisko here. Sisko didn't go after Eddington because Eddington outsmarted him. He went after Eddington because he betrayed him, and Starfleet. They were close, and Eddington was a Starfleet officer, and just like Janeway, Sisko thinks a Starfleet officer who betrays their oath is the worst kind of scum. It tends to make other Starfleet officers really, really, really mad. Apparently.

@echoes222

2 жыл бұрын

still, he went too far there :)

Worf killing Duras for killing K'Ehleyr on TNG?

@johnbockelie3899

4 жыл бұрын

Into darkness., Khan had enough of Admiral.Marcus controlling him , so he smashed Marcus's head, ( personally I was glad, Admiral Marcus was an A hole.)

@DoctorLazers

4 жыл бұрын

Fucking Duras. Everytime shit goes sideways with the Klingons, "Was it the Duras Clan?" It's always the Duras Clan.

@annescholey6546

4 жыл бұрын

Over the sword of Kah'less to inherit the Klingon crown?

@StuartDWright

4 жыл бұрын

I'm downvoting this video because this should have been number 1

@camerontille4247

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree

It's interesting that so often criticism of various films/series focuses around 'Roddenberry made Star Trek as a utopia', completely ignoring that yeah, the Federation was somewhat Utopian, but the Federation interacted with the rest of the Galaxy, which wasn't.

@swishfish8858

4 жыл бұрын

Yes totally. Roddenberry pictured humanity's future as "the American Dream", and everyone else's future as "what happened to the Nazis after WWII" and "ooooo those Ruskies".

@CathrineMacNiel

4 жыл бұрын

"it is easy to be a saint in paradise" -- Eddington

Worf running a bathleth through a dudes chest while his commanding officers yells not to? Worf should be number 1 spot. When he was pissed off, he did not hatch some cunning plan with twists and turns. He picked up a batleth, marched to the room of the offender, and executed him instantly on the spot.

I like this dude, he's a good commentator

@PatriciaPerkowski

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!!! He could read the most boring manual and I would be fascinated

@primetimemonkyhours743

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Roland same

@savage1267

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Even though he's ignorant of the theme and tone issues that remove Discovery and Picard and JJ's toilet bait from even being Trek. I weep for Roddenberry. But yes. I like this host.

@primetimemonkyhours743

4 жыл бұрын

savage1267 I’m glad he was shot in space or else he might be rolling in his grave

@kagomecc461

4 жыл бұрын

Me too.

"KHAAAAAAAAAANN!" sry couldn't resist. Definitely The best

There were many deaths in DS9 but none has made me sad more than Mila's death. She's probably Garak's mom, which makes it extra sad. If I was Garak I would've phasered the Founders to oblivion.

I liked it when O’Brien cleverly killed the alien entity possessing Keiko

Khan crushing someone's skull with his bare hands should be higher on this list. Worf killing Duras should be on the list.

@johnbockelie3899

4 жыл бұрын

What about Khan and the Ceti eels?

@VuotoPneumaNN

4 жыл бұрын

Worf wasn't particularly brutal.

@virginiaconnor8350

4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't there a Duras in "Enterprise"?

@DenverStarkey

4 жыл бұрын

@@VuotoPneumaNN you ever had a sword ran though you chest? I'd say it's pretty damn brutal. Also you don't die from it as fast as tv makes it out (unless it hits a artiery going into the heart)

@VuotoPneumaNN

4 жыл бұрын

@@DenverStarkey still was less brutal than most stuff on this list.

I know it’s been mentioned already, but this is a favorite episode for me. . . I am sad that you didn’t include “Reunion “ where Worf kills Duras for murdering Kheylar. Kheylar is a personal favorite character for me-the half Klingon woman with a biting sense of humor and the struggle to integrate that with her “nasty” Klingon side. I don’t know why she struck a cord with me, but she did. And when Duras killed her, and poor little Alexander had to see her dead body, and Worf’s grief howl. . . As a viewer I wanted to take up a batleth and murder Duras too!!!

A lot of comments here have said how Nero`s destruction of Vulcan should be on this list and I absolutely agree. However it`s for a reason none have mentioned (as far as I can tell). Nero destroyed Vulcan by having it sucked into an artificial black-hole. While it may have appeared to have happened fairly quickly to an outside observer, due to the relativistic effects on time from such immense gravitational forces the deaths of those on Vulcan at the time may have taken anywhere from eons to milliseconds depending on the PoV. Not to mention the spaghettification.

When Seven kicks Narissa into the abyss of the Borg cube saying "This one's for Hugh," that was especially delicious

Such a great list, loved this video!

I'd have to say Kirk's fight with the Klingon Commander (Christopher Lloyd) deserves an honorable mention :o)

@cliftonwebb5872

3 жыл бұрын

“I..Have Had...Enough...Of...You!”

Alright Marcus, this is one of the topics I've hoped you'd cover one day! Thanks mate

(Dis)Honorable Mention: Scotty flooding the Tlinghan D7's engine room with tribbles, "The Trouble With Tribbles" -- Star Trek TOS (The Original Series) They're just going to die horrible deaths for being -disgusting- cute. By the millions. I'd say with the ultimate reward being a chuckle -- that's pretty brutal.

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

William R Warren Jr Tribbles were sent to their deaths essentially.

@carrielange2692

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, that always bothered me, and I wondered if it did anyone else. glad I'm not alone.

2 more examples 1 kirk killing the Klingon captain who was responsible for the death of his son David in the (Search for Spock) and 2 Commodore Decker being willing to sacrifice the crew of the Enterprise to destroy the machine that killed his crew in the (Doomsday Device) episode of the Original Series.

@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit

4 жыл бұрын

Kirk tried to save him first so I'm not sure that's absolute revenge.

Great video.

Also, Sisko wasn't driven by Revenge. He was fully in control of his actions. He was 'playing the villain' in order to outsmart Eddington. It's in the episode itself. It was a performance.

@bemasaberwyn55

4 жыл бұрын

I do believe you're mistaken. Eddington himself points out how much like a character from Les Miserables

@Knightfall182

4 жыл бұрын

@@bemasaberwyn55 Which is what Sisko used to his advantage to craft the performance. Eddington was the only one who perceived Sisko's actions as 'revenge' because Eddington has a hero complex.

@bemasaberwyn55

4 жыл бұрын

@@Knightfall182 I'd dispute that because his crew wasn't in the loop

@macnut68

4 жыл бұрын

He still rendered a planet uninhabitable, risking the lives of its former inhabitants in the process, just to get one man. Even though I don't entirely disagree with his reasoning (and found the episode great fun to watch), I still found it a bit extreme.

@_Boobear_

3 жыл бұрын

@@macnut68 uninhabitable to humans not cardassians

One of the most profoundly disturbing examples of revenge in all of Star Trek cannon, in my opinion was the Krenim Imporium from Voyager, who had become obsessed with erasing as many alien civilizations from time as it took to get their vision of justice back which they felt had been stolen from them by the Rilnar. But the logic was circular, since the damage had been done by their own technology, so they had only themselves to blame. But I can see why you left it out of your list... Because it never happened! LOL

Outstanding !!!!!!!

“....although he’d probably deny it...” That was perfect

I love this. I can't tell you how happy I am to see lists by someone who actually watches Star Trek. Keep em coming!!

@guitarmansegovia

4 жыл бұрын

It takes a true fan to understand the nuance that makes up these lists. The WhatCulture crew truly embody that fandom perfectly.

Got to love that Riker look at 0:20 that was used in the Best of Both Worlds after saving Picard!

I loved the way you described Garak.

I like how this channel doesn't needlessly take sides on "what real Star Trek is". It's all Trek, it all counts!

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, but some trek is certainly less trek than others....

@incogni-bro8276

4 жыл бұрын

Why doesn’t this have more likes?

@swishfish8858

4 жыл бұрын

@@incogni-bro8276 Because unfortunately, many members of this fandom disagree with me, and would rather take sides and draw lines in the sand than accept that their favorite thing can have things they don't like in it and move along.

@swishfish8858

4 жыл бұрын

@ I don't think in those terms. I just don't believe that lacking elements of one thing in a franchise makes it any less a part of that franchise. If anything, I think trope shakeups and identifiable differences are very healthy for a franchise. Sometimes they end up better or worse than others, but that's left up to interpretation.

@hezekiahramirez6965

4 жыл бұрын

The "it's not Star Trek" people drive me bananas. It's all Star Trek. "Star Trek" isn't the same as "something I like." Don't like new Trek? Cool. It's still Star Trek.

Kirk: "I have had...enough..of you!"

#10 was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the video title. That’s a powerful episode.

Sisko did not destroy a planet. He made a planet ceded to the Cardassians uninhabitable to humans. The Maquis had done the same to a Cardaissian planet ceded to the Federation. It was a genius move to capture Edington and that stayed within the confines of the treaty.

@marmac83

4 жыл бұрын

He still made a planet unihabitable...

@gaspainsify

4 жыл бұрын

Only to humans. Cardassians could survive there which was fine since the planet was theirs by treaty.

God help me, i love your videos!

Did not Kahn actually look forward to winning a world and building an empire upon his "sentencing" by Kirk in TOS? Khan: Have you ever read Milton, captain?

@thetowerstillstands

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, he did. However, Kirk said he would be back to check. He didn't. The loss of his wife and 60 odd crew twisted how it happened in his mind.

@Chuck_Hooks

4 жыл бұрын

@@thetowerstillstands Kirk gave Lt. Marla McGivers a choice between court martial or going with Khan and of course she chose to go with him. Khan warned her that it would be a struggle at first even to stay alive. Making sure she understood that her life might be very brief. After Khan and McGivers left, Spock mused that it would be interesting to return to Khan's new world in a hundred years and see what crop had sprung from the seed Kirk planted today. Kirk agreed and that was the end. Kirk made no promise to come back and check and Khan and McGivers knew what brutal conditions they were choosing to face.

@gordol66

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but then the next planet in the system blew up (!) shifting the orbit of the one Khan and crew were dropped on changing it from a world with a future to a desert hell. And Kirk never followed up on his promise to check on how they were doing.

@Chuck_Hooks

4 жыл бұрын

@@gordol66 Kirk never promised to check on Khan in TOS or the movie. In the movie Khan simply says Kirk never bothered to check on him. That doesn't mean Kirk promised to check on him. Khan got better than he deserved for trying to kill Kirk and his crew and rigging the Enterprise to blow up in TOS.

@thetowerstillstands

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chuck_Hooks Every villian is the hero of their own story.

TNG "The Wounded" with Capt Maxwell could be counted as revenge

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

KIERAN lindsay O’Brien discuses his revenge too

@jamessullivan4391

3 жыл бұрын

How can you be so obtuse?

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamessullivan4391 What did you say?

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

Another great episode with an amazing guest star.

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamessullivan4391 I can have you reported to the War Department. Yes I can do that.

I have watched enough Babylon 5, Star Trek, Star Wars, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, to understand that vengeance, darkness, and going all bat shit insane in one's quest for whatever, is the best drug ever. The highs and lows are like a roller coaster ride.

I love Janeway. ❤️She’s not perfect but who is?

@CathrineMacNiel

4 жыл бұрын

Spot, the cat.

@Saint_nobody

4 жыл бұрын

Seven of Nine. 😍

@kellyweingart3692

4 жыл бұрын

Spock

@virginiaconnor8350

4 жыл бұрын

@@Saint_nobody She's ok, but I liked T'Pol more.

@techboysf

3 жыл бұрын

Coincidence that when she gave up coffee she messed with the Temporal Prime Directive? You don't mess with her coffee.

Sisko didn't actually destroy the planet, he just made it uninhabitable for the Maquis. The weapon the Maquis had used made the Cardassian planet uninhabitable for Cardassians, and the episode ended with the populations of the 2 planets switching places. As vengeance stories go, it was relatively bloodless. Also, his reason for attacking that planet wasn't an emotional one, it was calculated (which kinda makes it worse). He was playing the role Eddington had picked for him. Eddington constantly brought up Les Miserables, comparing himself to it's protagonist, Jean Valjean, while comparing Sisko to Javert. Sisko figured out that the best way to get to him was to play the part of a villain. He didn't intend to kill any Maquis with his attack, which is why he warned them to evacuate before launching the attack. While Sisko did have an emotional reason to take down Eddington, it was based on the fact that he was Eddington's commanding officer, and he had failed in his responsibilities by not noticing that he was being deceived so he felt responsible to bring him to justice.

Hi thank you very much.

Ohh this was a great video! You are helerious too! This video was well put together! I am not quite sure that well, but I think that of when Worf helped the Klingons to stop the "Albinos" was quite the revenge too, I think if I remember that it was brutal enough as well....oh, and Mother Horta on Star Trek, trying to protect her eggs....revenge against the miners by burning them to death, using her acidic abilities.

The crystalline e tity in "Silicon avStar" is like the vampire cloud creature in the TOS episode "Obsession", or the space ameba in "The Immunity Syndrome": interstellar menaces threatening all planetary life.

@vidlink

4 жыл бұрын

She was in right for killing it.

@BIackMoonCGI

4 жыл бұрын

...and the Doomsday machine.

Sulu and Kirk destroying General Chang’s prototype ship.

Oh you forgot the klingons Kor, Koloth, and Kang killing the Albino.

@lordzaphodthestrange7164

4 жыл бұрын

Star Trek DS9 "Blood Oath". Great episode.

Even villains are the heroes of their own story's. Great list

Mr Pink rocks the world with his awesome British accent once more! Awesome!

*STAY HOME, STAY HEALTHY* 😷👍🏻

@Ithinkiwill66

4 жыл бұрын

Yes....biggest revenge right now in reality.....killing off the virus!!

No love for Worf avenging his mate and mother of his child

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@SnowDaulphin

3 жыл бұрын

Should be no 1...great episode

Excellent. ♡ T.E.N.

Kirk sets up the Klingon in Friday’s child.

Peter Weller still didn't get as jacked up in Into Darkness as he did in the beginning of Robocop.

Kathryn Insaneway

@10:11 - 🤣🤣🤣 My man!

Ziyal "his only love" Pleeeeease, he was railing Bashir on a regular basis since Season 1, guy gets about lmaoo

The Federation being more like the Terran Empire than what one would realise.

Well Seven of Nine did feel herself as a mother to Icheb.

@LanMandragon1720

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly her going all Punisher was entirely believable. They tortured her son to death yeah she was justified.

great Janeway impersonation.

As a fan of Star Trek the number 1 enemy is and always will be The Borg!

Kirk's brutal act of revenge on Finnegan👊

@Chuck_Hooks

4 жыл бұрын

@ After the fight, Spock did ask Kirk if he "enjoyed it." To which Kirk replied, "Yes, I enjoyed it. The one thing I wanted to do after all these years was beat the tar out of Finnegan."👊👍😎

@Chuck_Hooks

4 жыл бұрын

@ I love "Shore Leave," too. Earlier in this episode there is an interesting insight into Kirk's academy days when Kirk tells McCoy that he was "grim." Meaning the young Kirk was a very serious student. And that seriousness made Finnegan's pranking of Kirk all the more fun for Finnegan. I wish this insight could be revisited and we could look back and see some of Finnegan's pranking of young Kirk🤣

@Chuck_Hooks

4 жыл бұрын

@ Good point👍

Naaaah .... #1 should have been Scotty beaming all of the tribbles to the Klingon ship.

Spock and Enterprise kills alien infestation, revenge for Kirk’s brother, Spock going blind.

15:00 "Eh.. He does it way better than all of us." Agree!

Isn't it fascinating how surgeons can apparently make any humanoid species appear as another, even changing the very skull of a Cardassian to make him look Bajoran, but it's not possible to heal a couple of burn scars?

The Crystalline Entity had it Coming. Her son Is Ungrateful as far as I'm concerned. Sisko and Kahn are my favorite Revenge moments

@JCAH1

4 жыл бұрын

Right. If she hadn't killed it, were they simply going to ask it to starve itself to death? The thing sterilizes organic planets for a living! How is it any different than the Doomsday Machine? Also, it didn't come out of nowhere. There has to be an entire race of crystalline entities somewhere.

@Gfish17

4 жыл бұрын

@@JCAH1 How Are we only seeing 1 of those Nightmare crystals!?

I thought the most disturbing thing I saw, that was the very first I saw that gave me the creeps, seeing the dead bodies on the USS Exeter, where all of the crew members turned into crystalized nothingness. I know not really revenge, but this was still death, and disturbing....well maybe kind of the universe's revenge against the Starfleet....specially those days wearing red 😳

Garek did a lot of things, coolly, dispassionately. But the Dominion killed his MOTHER.

No mention of Janeway and Seven vs. the Borg Queen?

10:11 uncensored seven of nine link plz

That entry about Garak makes no sense. He was never in love with Zyal and made it very clear to her and everyone. And it was Damar who killed her... And he allied with Damar against the founders! Him killing Weyoun was an act of revenge for the wreckage the founders were doing of Cardassia, it had nothing to do with Zyal or his exile...

@swishfish8858

4 жыл бұрын

And you believe the words of a known and self-admitted liar? Especially one that hides his feelings behind fifty layers of duranium as a matter of professionalism?

@VuotoPneumaNN

4 жыл бұрын

@@swishfish8858 Yes. Everything he says is true. Especially the lies. But seriously, nothing in the show leads to think his main point of vengeance was Zyal. Especially since she wasn't killed by the Dominion, but by Damar. He is a stone-cold liar, but he is also a patriot, and the whole show is filled with episodes in which he is actually very candid about his feelings, especially in season 7. Especially in the finale, in which he seems rather upset by the massacre.

Janeway is a beast. Love her.7 is the embodiment of Venus. Love her. Lol

@swishfish8858

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, I just can't with Janeway. I think she's a bad captain that put her crew at unnecessary risk and continues to do so in attempts to make up for it. But I think I need to do a rewatch of Voyager before I totally commit to that opinion.

@Alteringrealitystudios

4 жыл бұрын

@@swishfish8858 i feel she had the perfect level of morals and Grit for the situation her and her crew were tossed into. At least she wasn't killing aliens like that other Captain just to get fuel.

@batgurrl

4 жыл бұрын

AlteringRealitystudios I love her. Yes that 2 part episode Equinox was just on the all treks 6 days a week channel. Yes another starfleet ship stuck in the delta quadrant

@Alteringrealitystudios

4 жыл бұрын

@@batgurrl Tragic yet awesome.

@batgurrl

4 жыл бұрын

AlteringRealitystudios yes it was

4:32 HE ALSO CRUSHED CAROLS KNEE

Thanks for pointing out how weird it is that Bjayzl looks very similar to Deanna Troi. That was weird for me, too, and I also thought she must be related before she was killed off. It seems highly unlikely, considering the fact that she was killed so off-handedly, but still. Weird they would choose an actress who looked so similar to a young Marina Sirtis.

The Wrath of Khan is my favourite film of all time.

I like Marcus...dude is animated!

Kirk kills Doomsday machine....it could have been sentient...this was the first story of Ahab.....also Obsession cloud creature

What about Worf killing Duras?

3:41 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SHOOT A HOSTAGE

Definitely missing Picard in First Contact here!

3:10 Titus Welliver BB (Before Bosch)

So what about Worf and what he did to Duros? That was pretty brutal and it was certainly revenge.

What about Gul Dukat? He was a far better described villain with far more camera time who actually sees himself as a hero!

@michaelmckinnon1591

4 жыл бұрын

Gul Dukat is one of those shades of gray charachters in the Star Trek universe who is a hero villain and plays the good guy in some episodes and the bad guy in others and appears in TNG and DS9.

6:51 no stun setting on your phaser there, sparky?

I'm disappointed my friend I just knew you were going to have Worf killing duras on the list one of my favorite episodes

As a rule, I'm not wild about the Abrams films. BUT...In "Star Trek: Into Darkness" get get to see Spock as we never saw him in TOS. I have often wondered, with his incredible Vulcan Strength, just what would happen if he ever lost his temper completely against some enemy. In this film we actually get to see it. So...Yeah...I like this one.

What about the Klingon Dahar Masters and the Albino? Sisko definitely looked at Dax differently after that...

You mentioning Sisko's darker actions makes me think that could also be a list: The worst things our favourite starfleet captains ever did. TBH Benjamin Sisko could be at least twice on the list. Once for the one you mentioned here and a second time for spreading fake informations and killing a romulan diplomat in order to sway romulus to turn on the dominion.

Damn, that was refreshing

The Conscience of the King, TOS. Lenore's murder of anyone who can ID her father as Kodos is effectively destroys him. Rather than save him, she leaves even more blood on his hands.

Arguably one of the best? I'm sorry, your intellect is now very much in question. It is simply the best, no argument.

The Vengeance Factor is a terrible example because it could have been solved by: Riker: Slaps comm badge Riker: Riker to Enterprise. Lock on to Uta and beam her to the brig. Fin.

It's interesting that this is your perspective. My perspective is that there's not nearly enough retribution. In fact, I have found a federation to be weak and unstrategic, inviting further terrorism.

I agree with #1. The Wrath of Khan is the most vengeful and perhaps the best of the film franchise.

Garak killed a man who helped administer a brutal regime that killed 800 million of his people. Don't really see that belonging on this list.

@AprilGabrielle

4 жыл бұрын

No one loves Garak more than me, but it was still revenge. For Weyoun and the Founders destroying his home world. For killing Mila. For everything.

@AshPrimeDCFC

4 жыл бұрын

@@AprilGabrielle I get it, I just don't see it as "most brutal".

I don’t think you’re number two on this list technically be called an act of revenge. If anything it is Sisco getting down on the level of Michael Edington. And if it were a act of revenge he would have not sent out the warning to the planet before he launched the poison. He gave them plenty of time to evacuate. They didn’t believe him. So anyone who died from that the responsibility is on their heads. They chose to think that because he was Starfleet he would not do it. Never underestimate Starfleet captains. The only horrible captain was captain Catherine Janeway.

Star trek II was THE best trek film in my humble opinion

@ThomasTrue

3 жыл бұрын

And I'm pretty sure that Khan attacking the Enterprise was fully justified for that ridiculous toupee Shatner was wearing.

@sifrost6869

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasTrue LOL yeah less said about that the better, it didn't even get a credit in the film

Star Trek is not about perfectionism. It's about optimism. But even for these people on your list, Section 31 is looking for recruits!

Its more than likely been said a dozen times. But I'd argue Sisko's darkest revenge was against the dominion. He engaged in a plot that could have guaranteed the destruction of the federation and the loss of all its Allies, when he participated in a murder of a Romulan general/ senator. He knew what our favorite tailor would do. He knew exactly. Honorable mention to convincing God's to murder millions of Dominion people in the wormhole. If a "bad guy" Did that to the federation it would be the most horrendous thing and we'd scream how unfair it was ;)