Irvine is literally one of the strongest characters in the game lol. Fast ammo after using doom train kills 90 percent of the game in one cycle

@nathank2289

4 күн бұрын

Thank you. He is literally the first party members who can reach 9999 damage thanks to pulse ammo, which I actually really easy to find in disk 3.

@christopherrainwater991

4 күн бұрын

I never do even though he is cooler than Zell but every playthrough I can't turn my back on White Tyson. Then for the last member it's either Rinoa if I'm trying to make their love make sense at the end or it's quistis cause she is a badass.

@tompalmer4544

4 күн бұрын

I've only played ff8 1 time, full through, around original release. My team through the game was Irvine squal an rinoa thought they were the best

@nathank2289

3 күн бұрын

@@tompalmer4544 You should give it another try someday. Time travel mysteries make more sense the second time through.

@szunaloneheart3148

Күн бұрын

@@tompalmer4544 exactly the same setup for me and both of my siblings back the days

Oh no... they didn't tell her about Irvines Cheap speed ammo technique

@Leonhearth0

12 күн бұрын

Squall with Lionheart, Irvine with Quick Shot and Zell with his infinite Top Punch/Feint combo make Omega Weapon a joke.

@asham868

12 күн бұрын

i was gonna comment on that. junction him right and use fast ammo and he turns enemies to swiss cheese

@That_KVO_Breh

12 күн бұрын

Thank christ someone said it. When I saw the thumbnail I knew no one at whatculture has played FF8 long enough to have seen how broken Irvine is.

@zzmej1987

11 күн бұрын

And nobody had watched a speedrun. XD

@wolfsokaya

11 күн бұрын

Back in the day,i didnt know of (or just dont remember) using that method, but having the AP rounds shooting max damage early in the game stuck to me.

Irvine definitely does not belong on this list. Most places i go where people discuss ff8, he is usually mentioned as part of the team. And pulse ammo is hardly ever used for him. By the end of the game, normal ammo hits just as hard and it isnt even the best option.

@HandsomeLongshanks

8 күн бұрын

I use pulse ammo on him due to low level runs. You never quite get 9999 damage otherwise.

Amarant from _Final Fantasy IX_ is one of my mains when I go back for replays, despite being such a late-comer.

@nesoukkefka1741

9 күн бұрын

He is honnestly a good character, if Trance could be more controlled he would be even better, also find it ironic that his transition in story from lone wolf attitude to someone embrasing friendship is kind foreshadowed and supported by how he can become one of the best support in the game, Chakra is good to give MP to any character, Aura giving Regen + Auto-Life is a good buff (especially in Trance, makes him the only character able to put auto-life on the entire party in one turn), can Revive party member (or even the entire team with Trance) and can use Curse (altough random) to increase the damage of his teammate and his own.

Kimahri sad, but Kimahri remain strong.

@RyuzakiTaiyou

12 күн бұрын

Kimahri remain on bench.

@NigelWatersFWA

12 күн бұрын

Ehhh....not that strong.

@fijiwaru

12 күн бұрын

Lmao! Only true players know kimahri thief before Rikku is OP. Even after Rikku, a second thief is godly while building the party up.

@54raynor

12 күн бұрын

Kimhari think Jess should be Jess.

@somnus_aeternam

12 күн бұрын

Hornless!

I appreciate Jess just being upfront, saying she's a new fan and just learned some of these characters. Respect

@MrDestro0000

12 күн бұрын

No doubt, lots of people, when asked, like to pretend they've been fans since the beginning, to their own detriment. We don't care how long you've been a fan for, just that you're a fan. And honestly, I'd rather you be honest, because then I get to geek out on how phenomenal some of those old games are. And then maybe you go off and play it, and we get to compare notes.

@Midragor

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I get your point, but becoming a new fan, with her job and the tsunami of spoiler that comes with it, is no easy task. I wish her all the best because a lot of these games deserve a playthrough or 6

@zbennalley

12 күн бұрын

@Midragor yeah FF has a huge dedicated fanbase, so she won points in my book by being honest.

@EclecticCamel

12 күн бұрын

She doesn't write most of the videos she does. You can see who the writer is at the end of the video. Not dissing her at all, she's done some of her own stuff.

@cameronfloyd5137

12 күн бұрын

Truth, Jess is great

Kimahri is one of those JRPG party members that rewards the player for knowing the "ins-and-outs" of the game (kinda like most other Blue Mages in the series). If you put Kimahri through Wakka's sphere grid, he gets a ton of HP, Attack, Accuracy, and surprisingly a lot of Magic Attack as well. A couple of Kimahri's Overdrives scale off of Attack (Jump and Seed Cannon for example) while others scale off of Magic (Fire/Aqua Breath), so having a mixture of both is best for Kimahri specifically. Wakka and Lulu's paths on the Sphere Grid are also close to each other so Kimahri can easily switch over from Wakka's path to Lulu's path with the right Key Sphere. Using a Special Sphere to teach him Steal/Use OR a Skill Sphere to give him Mug is also a great idea to allow him to steal from Yenke and Biran to get some Lvl 3 Key Spheres (which are a pain to get without a lot of grinding). BUT all of that is only if you know how to use Kimahri. On my first playthrough I put Kimahri through Tidus' path on the Sphere Grid and had a lesser Tidus with underwhelming Overdrives (his Magic was weak so Fire/Aqua Breath were on the weaker side, other Overdrives were still good though). Kimahri is definitely the hardest character to use to their fullest but he's a beast if you put a lot of effort into him and that's his main problem compared to the rest of the cast. The rest of the party each has a defined role in combat as well as enemies that they hard-counter easily, making them very straight-forward (maybe even a little too easy to use in the beginning), while Kimahri doesn't have that luxury, making it VERY easy to neglect and leave him on the bench since he's so dang anti-optimal. The player needs to WORK to make Kimahri shine while the other party members need little to no investment.

@KegOfMeat

11 күн бұрын

Kimahri only really has a role in the early game as the tank because you don’t have Auron and Kimahri’s weapon has Piercing on it. First run I did I sent him down Lulus path so he just became a less effective magic user while the second run I sent him down Auron’s path. He still didn’t fair that much better to be perfectly honest. He was my least used character, well he and Rikku. I’ll also just point out even though it’s not relevant to Kimahri, but teaching Tidus, Wakka or especially Auron Mug is so useful.

@frankbrodie5168

11 күн бұрын

I'm a serial FFX player. And it is in fact stated on many many comments sections as my favourite (offline) game of all time. I've definitely done play-throughs where I've kept Kimahri in at all times that he's available just for the laugh of it. But he's also definitely my least used FFX character overall over the years. Probably because I like the girly characters.. so sue me lol

@TheLionHammer

11 күн бұрын

@@KegOfMeat I like to slap Mug on Wakka cuz of his high attack and accuracy.

@TheLionHammer

11 күн бұрын

@@frankbrodie5168 understandable, I think he's everybody's least used. Also Yuna, Lulu, and Rikku are great, no suing necessary.

@nesoukkefka1741

10 күн бұрын

@@KegOfMeat Teaching Kimahri Mug or Steal is actually usefull, cause Biran and Yenke are the earliest source of LV3 Key Sphere, with Master Thief to Kimahri so that he can steal 2 LV3 Key Sphere per steal, you can get enough LV3 Key Sphere for the rest of the game just from that fight alone.

I like to change Amarant's name to Queen. That way his tagline becomes, "I am the flaming Queen!"

@johanhalvarsson2148

9 күн бұрын

Am I immature for thinking "turd would suit that line better"?

Umaro’s biggest use is at the Colosseum, where you can’t control the character anyway and the characters with more abilities tend to choose the ones they use very poorly.

I’m team Kimahri on FFX. My boy is essentially a blue mage and is great to slip in at times.

@Nezumikniver

12 күн бұрын

Love me some Kimahri!

@sootythunder3111

12 күн бұрын

Kimahri is a character that really snowballs, if you keep him in the party and get as many blue mage spells as possible he easily becomes the best party memeber, he is not the best at any 1 thing, but he is the second best at everything once you get all the spells

@dylanbyard4594

12 күн бұрын

Hell I used him as more of a tank/damager and he was a beast at that.

@SeanSpencerNekoEspirito

12 күн бұрын

With the HD re-release of FFX and the subsequent improvement to the sphere grid, he's a great character! But you have the admit, in the OG version his spot on the sphere grid really set him back.

@nesoukkefka1741

10 күн бұрын

@@SeanSpencerNekoEspirito Not really, used properly he can go to Rikku's grid allowing to get Steal and Use long before she joins, and then you can wait and once you get a LV2 Key Sphere, you can send to Yuna's path and grab Holy long before Yuna gets it, by this point he will be your strongest character, you can also go the other through Wakka and then Lulu's path and this allow him to grab the -aga tier spells long before Lulu.

Irvine slander is crazy and not tolerated

@josesavant

11 күн бұрын

They're insane... they need to go and play FF VIII again.

Who tf doesn't use Irvine? LoL. When he is maxed out, he is absolutely BROKEN, doin max damage to every enemy on the screen with deadly precision. Like to where I can remember having everyone else lay on the ground and Irvine just carry them through the final 4 fights of the game.

@ZackeryGee

12 күн бұрын

Irvine is always in my party due to his limit break. AP ammo destroys enemies while Dark Ammo can cripple enemies! It's like an early doomtrain.

@lesterama6110

12 күн бұрын

Indeed. He was crucial to me for defeating King Tomberry early

@dantecoal7584

12 күн бұрын

Basically never used him in either the OG game for PS1 or for the Remaster. All the content was easy enough to clear without him, and mr cowboy just wasn't a character I liked, lol.

@leebratina1089

11 күн бұрын

Whoever wrote this part of the script obviously didn’t pay attention to the storyline. He’s the outsider that is the only one that remembers their childhood, and his personality is often a reflection of that. Without him, we would t have had the connection between the GFs and the memory loss.

@nesoukkefka1741

11 күн бұрын

And with max Str and Luck his Fast Ammo, is the most damaging of his limit break, on top of having really fast animations unlike Zell.

I'm definitely a Cait Sith defender. Don't tell me sh*t about his stats or battle strategy...He's a Cat riding a giant Moog in a little Cape. I'm sold!

@josesavant

11 күн бұрын

I always put him in my party, one of the weirdest characters controlled remotely by Reeve.

@randy_colocho

11 күн бұрын

​@@josesavantsame. Once he became available he never left my party.

@pc2950

10 күн бұрын

Cait sith is a great character. His dice or slot limit break can be great.

@saltyk9869

10 күн бұрын

The fact that they kept using Rebirth Cait Sith while talking about OG Cait Sith really took me out of it. Rebirth Cait Sith is actually good if a little esoteric.

@Pishcott85

10 күн бұрын

Agree

Just started the video, and I gotta say if people don't use Quina in FF9, they've failed. Period. Homies Blue Magic is OP as hell.

@DarkFrozenDepths

3 күн бұрын

early game Limit Glove cause Phoenix downs revive you with such low HP is nuts.

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

I think the grinding and/or hunting and/or knowing what enemies give what spells is a turn off to a lot of people. Younger me doing FF9 for the first time, didn't have easy access to all of this information, back when I first played FF9, internet was still new-ish, and I didn't have the brady guide for that game, and I dunno if Gamefaqs even existed at that point and unless you start right away, at eating just the right enemies, Quina is going to seem like they are useless. The fork attacks can be good, but it's like gambling... sometimes you get awesome damage, other times he'll hit the enemy for 10 damage. So, after awhile, when you get the choice to NOT use him, you either choose between RNG or someone who is more reliable like Freya or especially Steiner (even moreso if you've also Vivi in the group!) and well the choice is pretty clear. All of these other characters appear to be way better than Quina, if you didn't get some of their more busted spells. Quina is the embodiment of a GuideDangIt character. No Guide = eating everything (which is a right chore to do, even if you do know exactly what enemies should be eaten) which is a huge turn-off.

Snow was a crazy tank especially in the end game

In Final Fantasy Tactics Cloud is an unlockable secret character. The problem is you get him so late in the game and he's level 1. Not a useless party member by any means, but by the time you get him you've pretty much got your party locked in.

@Aelvir114

5 күн бұрын

Would be nice if he targets the enemy instead of the tile

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

Cloud is a useless character. The main thing he brings to the Table is charged attacks that take way too long to execute, and you have other characters (coughOrlanducough) that are better. Orlandu does everything Cloud can do, instantly and his equipment that he comes with is better than Cloud's. Mustadio who you get way earlier in the game, his guns always hit and he throws his items no matter what job he is IIRC (not that you'd want him to be any other job because his starting job is just that awesome), Agrias has some of the better swordskills and you get her pretty earlier too, she's basically an Orlandu-in-training, and there's plenty of other special characters that one can choose from. By the time you get to Cloud, you already consistently have a squad full of special characters that covers pretty much every playstyle without the need to have a useless character that can barely do anything without tons of extra help (doing stuff like casting Haste on him, etc).

Irvine is the most egregious inclusion on this list. His AP ammo shot is OP AF, and endlessly available by modding Tonberry Cards or Sharp Spikes.

Ah Irvine... My party in FF8 was always Squall. Zell and Rinoa... Unless the game forced other characters.

@gman24310

10 күн бұрын

I always used Squall, Rinoa, and Quistis. If I couldn’t use any of them for any reason, I would use Zell.

@jeffreyperez4319

10 күн бұрын

Mine is Squall, Rinoa and Irvine.

@EFFCtoocool

10 күн бұрын

I used Irvine instead of Zell, I don’t want no damn Chicken Wuss in my party! Honestly the FF8 answer should have been Selphie, you use her a lot early on when you have no choice but unless you are trying to cheese a fight with The End she doesn’t get a look in after the mid point. Honestly though, FF8 does a good job of use all characters.

@nesoukkefka1741

9 күн бұрын

@@EFFCtoocool Selphie's Slot giving her access to any spell right from the get go (nothing satisfies me more than cast a fucking Ultima at the Dollet Mission XD) would be really great.... if it wasn't for how easy to break into 1 million pieces FFVIII was.... Did somebody says Card Mod ?

Snow I actually found quite useful. As well as having the highest HP, which made him a great Sentinel, he also had very high strength, which I found useful in high attack paradigms.

@nesoukkefka1741

9 күн бұрын

He also has the fastest spellcasting animations of the team, which makes him a good Ravager and a good Medic.

Red mage in ff1 is legit part of most strongest party set ups.

Umaro + relics = A MONSTER. Cyan is honestly a more useless character in the OG FF3(6). The WAIT time for his specials is so slow it's crazy.

Oh man, I always use Irvine when I play FF8 along with Zell, although it's honestly mostly cuz I like their limits

@BlanckOne

12 күн бұрын

As a matter of fact, Zell and Irvine have the most broken limits, you can do a ridiculous amount of damage if you know what you're doing.

@FightingFurball

12 күн бұрын

@@BlanckOne especially AP Ammo is so easy to manufacture and absolutely broken if you just steal the materials

@Collin255

12 күн бұрын

@@BlanckOne oh I know! That's why I always use them! The amount of damage you can do with Zell's limit makes him the biggest damage dealer by far.

@stefaandeswert377

12 күн бұрын

Dream team right there.

@JimTheFly

11 күн бұрын

@@Collin255 When I realized how easy it was to just keep going on and on with Zell's limit, he was a guaranteed no-drop from my team.

I loved using Umaro. Putting him in a party with strong magic users and casting berserk as you ascended the Cultist Tower worked for me very well

@Freefall347

10 күн бұрын

The Cultist Tower is on place where he really shines, since you don't have to worry about all the enemies with permanent Reflect with him, and most of them have terrible defense. Honestly, FF6 is so easy to break open that having one guy constantly on auto-attack isn't all that detrimental. Cyan's Sword Tech, on the other hand, usually feels like a complete waste of time charging to the higher levels because it always feels like you could be having other characters do other things.

@streetkingsmagazine

6 күн бұрын

​@@Freefall347THIS

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

@@Freefall347 They fixed that in the Pixel Remaster, you tell Cyan which sword tech you want him to use and then he'll wait the amount of time while you can control other characters. Honestly how it should have been from the start. It makes Cyan a bit more usable, though still having one character just stand there half the battle isn't very productive, but at least the first 4 techs are more usable than they were before.

@Freefall347

2 күн бұрын

@@Dhalin That's good to hear, only took them a couple decades to figure out a fix for one of the worst special powers in the game (was going to say worst, but Gau's Rage is pretty bad too, just because of the randomness in farming anything useful).

@Dhalin

2 күн бұрын

@@Freefall347 Uh. Gau can get the two best rages in the entire game as soon as you get him (templar and stray cat). Templar will decimate everything pre-WoR and Stray Cat is straight up OP for the entire game.

Kimahri was designed to be a "second" option. You want a second mage? A second healer? Second armor breaker? etc.

@jeronmortensen9160

11 күн бұрын

Yes! This! I would always use khimari as my backup white mage for when Yuna left the party during the Bevelle events, including that damned Evrae fight.

@saltyk9869

10 күн бұрын

To be fair, they acknowledged that but also said, you basically always have access to a better version of him. Personally, I always sent him down Wakka and then Auron's path. Making him a decent damage dealer and taking advantage of how most of his weapons have piercing.

I used Umaro when I was younger, but as I got older and better learned the battle system (and RPG mechanics in general) I quickly learned that his overall damage output was lacking terribly compared to literally any other character when it came down to it, particularly if you are a fan of min maxing specific character stats long before Umaro becomes available (a feat that is even easier in the Pixel Remaster).

Oh, I thought the Cait Sith entry was going to touch on the subject that his limit break can party wipe you but I guess having only two limits is the extent of his awfulness in Jess's eyes.

@JimTheFly

11 күн бұрын

I was expecting this. When I learned that Slots has a "Party End" option I went "I'm never using this piece of crap. Ever."

I actually love Umaro especially when speed leveling on fast forward; you can get his physicals up to scoring 9999s with the Rage Ring which is a nice alt to avoid the game regressing into an Ultima spamming army lol

@Lastjustice

12 күн бұрын

Just equip atma weapons and offerings, kill everything in a barrage attack. This creams even the bonus dungeon bosses in the remake.

I liked the Red Mage in FF1 and would sometimes swap a White Mage for a Red Mage.

@Lastjustice

12 күн бұрын

White mage helps in the middle of the game, as you can survive a few of the more challenging fights easier with white mage than a red(especially if you tackle the bonus dungeon content on a lower lvl.), but later on you can produce such a offensive team that healing because far less useful, and you then have a character with low damage compared to rest just kinda is there. Red mage gets the legendary Lightbringer in the remake, which allows them to cast holy for free every fight. No other class can wield it.

@ShadowLynxXIII

11 күн бұрын

I usually go warrior, white mage, black mage, & red mage (sometimes swap with thief & very rarely monk). Red is versatile with both white & black spells giving good support & being able to use swords makes him good melee when the spells are used up

@nesoukkefka1741

9 күн бұрын

Also worth mentionning Red Mage were busted in the NES version, due to a programming error the Intelligence stat had no effect in spell damage, this mean he could cast as well as a Black Mage or a White Mage with better equipment and better survability.

@nostrum6410

8 күн бұрын

red and white mages were both almost as useless as the thief. mixture of black belts and fighters is the way to go

@GLJosh

8 күн бұрын

@@nostrum6410 I used to do Black Belts only runs on the NES, difficult in the early to mid-game, but fantastic during endgame.

Max props getting into the FF universe, Jess. I got into it in ‘02 when an ex loaned me a chipped PS1 and some games. Including FF7 & FF8. (8 the best in the series).

Snow is actually the best member to have in the final hunts. He's the strongest Sentinel user using him to tank makes those fights immensely easier where was Hope is just bad at even his best class.

Using the wrong shot for Irvine and you can get Pulse shot as early as Disc 1. Irvine is one of the top strongest characters in the game, rivaling Zell, Rinoa, and Squall.

@DustinDonald-cz9ot

6 күн бұрын

He surpasses Zell pretty easily as his animations are faster and no need to input commands like Zell.

I usually use a red mage in FF1. And the class I never use is thief. Red Mages makes the fisrt half of the game easy, but theives and ninjas only make running away easier.

I used Irvine pretty heavily. Stock up on ammo, draw the curagas from the garden hidden draw point, junction that magic to Irvine's HP, and then spam Irvine's limit break. So many bullets. So much damage

Irvine is the best character in the game period. There is nothing more badass than Irvine blasting bosses with Armor piercing ammo.

Obtaining Irvine's pulse ammo is easy if you find the guy laughing on the highway in Esthar who turns into a monster that drops tons of energy crystals that convert into pulse ammo.

1. In FF9 when Zidane has to go to the lost continent, leave Amarant in Eiko's party. 2. get chocobo, and use dead peppers to get Amarant's final weapon in one of the cracks 3. when segment completes you revert to Eiko and Amarant in Kuja's palace 4. equip Amarant with his final weapon and just one-hit blast through that level like it's not even there.

In Final Fantasy X, Auron is only the armor hunter thanks to Piercing in his weapons. Kimahri gets this in many weapons, but has a much wider stat gain. Sending him onto Rikku's path gives you a terrific story fight setup, and lowers how many characters you have to focus to 5.

cait sith is a beast in rebirth

@saltyk9869

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, he's got some great skills but he also has a bit of a learning curve and some luck-based skills. That being said, he is certainly not a slouch in Rebirth.

I love that Irvine, literally the biggest damage machine in the game, is on a list of least used characters. Whack.

I used that dude in final fantasy 10 because he reminded me of panthor from thundercats

Final Fantasy Tactics and specifically the War of the Lions version and Final Fantasy IV: The After Years actually both have more than 16 playable characters. The original Tactics had 16 unique playable characters in addition to non-unique ones you could recruit; War of the Lions brought the unique total up to 24. After Years had 22 playable characters. And before anyone tries to say they are spinoffs and don’t count, they are still Final Fantasy games and thus Final Fantasy Characters and the title only says “Final Fantasy characters” and not anything like “Main series Final Fantasy characters”. And there are no such statements in the description or intro. So FFVI and Type-0 don’t hold the record for playable characters.

I'll call hax on your Umaro, he was KEY in getting through the Magi tower.

I teamed up Umaro with Relm & Strago for the memes: imagine an abominable snowman throwing around a little kid & an old man. 😂

@steveperry2321

6 күн бұрын

The lulz were the only reason some of the characters were used for me in several of the games.

Irvine and Zell were my freaking tag team champs with their limit breaks

Meliaodul is very good in the WotL version since her skills are no longer dependent on breaking armor, she has very good stats and plotwise it makes a lot of sense lining her up in all history battles after you recruit her, you'll get extra dialogue on most battles.

See Irvine in the thumbnail is a crime. His quick shot ammo limit break can deal so much damage. I’m pretty sure the WhatCulture team member who wrote this put him on the list to enrage people.

I appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning. Thanks Jess!!

I can understand why a new player would not use Irvine, but he is easily a top three character for the difficult end game challenges. AP bullet limit breaks deal insane damage.

I can’t believe Irvine is on this list… his ammo ability was so helpful in my Remaster playthrough. Yes I did get this strongest Ammo but I found that his other ammo’s did a lot of damage as well, so I didn’t always have to use AP Ammo (I think that’s the name).

I like to use amaranth because his Chakra keeps garnet topped up so she can use expensive summons every turn

Irvine reminds me of that Xenogears character that also used ammo, in steroids, because you needed Ammo for his regular guns, and Ammo for his darn Gear, Yes, the gear also used oversized ammo shells to do damage... and once you get powerful attackers like Emeralda's Gear and Maria's Seibzehn, poor kiddo will be benched for the rest of the run along with Rico and my favourite whip wielder.

Porom is a great character to use. Her magic healing is powerful and she gets holy earlier. Cait Sith is also a decent tank, his limits slot are just unpredictable but then they aren't needed.

"top characters nobody ever used" Me whose main party was squall, Rinoa and irvine: am i a joke to you?😀

Also, FF13's roster is set apart not just by their weapons and eidolons, but also their crystariums. Not every character can get every ability. Some are locked out of some really potent stuff like Curasa/Curaja and Bravera. Lightining and Hope for instance can't block in their Sentinel crystariums. Snow just isn't used often cause his overall crystarium and unique features aren't good. Only thing he has going for him is Steelguard and his high HP, which you can still ignore. Also, Sovereign Fist is just a poor man's Highwind since Fang has way more atk power. And this is ignoring the fact that Snow still comes up short before you get full Crystarium access anyway.

Regarding Kimahri, I usually send him straight to Rikku to learn steal, then wait at the level 3 lock near holy until I get a level 3 key. This keeps him useful until post-game level up. But he's probably the least useful of the 7.

Irvine's advantage over Zell is that his limit break doesn't take forever. He also can hit pretty good mid - early late game and reach 9999 each hit before anyone else with the AP ammo and fire ammo. His limit is not worse than Squall actually. It is worse against Renzo + Lion Heart but that doesn't occur every use. Squall's lowest limit is 4 hit and Irvine's will hit for more. I like all the characters in FF8. Not to mention that there's no need to min max anyway since game is easy.

I just came in to thumbs this down. I always use Irvine in FF8.

@niallocarroll4450

12 күн бұрын

Same, his Limit Break is one of the most useful especially in the late game

@always_ariel

12 күн бұрын

I adore Irvine

@Lascie

12 күн бұрын

@@niallocarroll4450 Without a doubt. The damage is insane.

@Lascie

12 күн бұрын

@@always_ariel Probably my fave character in the whole game.

@jamyroc1

12 күн бұрын

The dude is cracked, he is always on my team

Irvine?! His damage output is crazy!

I missed this video the other day, but I just wanted to praise you for including FF Tactics. Meliadoul was sadly outshined before her acquisition, but she has more reliable damage potential than Rafa and Marak(or however you want to spell their names) so they get the boot from me. That one caveat aside, I do mostly agree with this list. with the top pick being a sad tale of under development on Square's side. That said, they were also the only character who had the chance to cause an automatic win/loss with their limit break, so it was certainly a gamble.

Irvine an OG. His Limit Break was amazing

Kimahri kinda could be a extra thief level 3 key sphere are hard to come by

I love Irvine in Final Fantasy VIII. My party for defeating Omega Weapon is almost always Squall, Rinoa and Irvine.

I killed Emerald weapon in 4 turns cause of Cait Sith’s Slot limit break. He will forever be in my team.

Irvine is actually overpowered. He can do 9999 damage the earliest because getting the AP ammo is extremely easy to get 99 of once you can mod cards which I’m pretty sure is when you get Diablo.

In defense of Cait Sith, who I don’t really use… his usefulness has become a bit better in the remake but still lacks a bit partly because you only get to use him at the end of the game and there’s better options.

In ff8 Irvine is a beast at high STR. Cast meltdown on a boss, aura on Irvine, and use his fast ammo limit spam right out of the gate, OP. And you basically have an infinite supply of the good ammos thanks to Ifrits ammo refining of basic items. Pulse ammo is far too slow and time limited to be any good. Plus Squall needs to be on low Hp %, and ko'd allies to have a decent chance of using Lionheart via renzokouken, risky. Basically, Irvine is a minimal fuss, maximum damage, safe powerhouse. Ff8 is so much more fun on repeat plays. Irvine also has retroactive character development when you realise he choked when sniping Edea because he was the only one who knew her real identity. Its also fun to spam R1 wildly like pulling the trigger yourself, something they brought back for the gunner dressphere in ffX-2.

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

Squall's Lionheart is hard to get? I take it you never tried casting Aura, lol. It comes up on regular occasion. Just like Selphie's Full Cure.

Irvine IS the go to for Speedrun

Irvine is stupid strong. He's basically a must use.

I absolutely love using Meliadoul in Tactics. It's easy to dismiss both her and Agrias when Orlandu is right there, but you have to remember that he's completely busted as a character. I won't even run him in my team anymore when I do a FFT playthrough, which is often as it's one of my favorite games of all time. The turning point was in War of the Lions, where her Sword arts were changed to still do damage to monsters and humans with safeguard equipped. In the original PS1 release it would do no damage if there wasn't a piece of equipment in the targeted slot, which was crippling for her. Post WoTL she's perfectly capable offensively across the spectrum of enemies, just specifically deadly against non-safeguarded humans. What I really want is a version of Tactics where Gaffgarion becomes recruitable. I always loved him as a character in design and in personality, so it always felt bad having to take him out. It would be cool to have a male Holy Knight that didn't feel as busted as Orlandu that could also utilize the exclusive bard abilities too.

@saltyk9869

10 күн бұрын

Really the biggest problem is that she joins so late in the game. I think almost every other character, except Byblos, is available before her.

Everyone uses Irvine no? The speed ammo spam made him a monster

So...I always use red mage in Final Fantasy 1. It's a great "jack of all trades" character that can fill any role. And Porom is a great character in Final Fantasy 4. She tends to heal a bit more than rosa, cry can confuse enemies in the PSP port (the only port you should play anyway), and twin magic isn't good, but it has helped me out a few times. Also in the 3d version. Cecil and Rosa with twin magic, all I'm saying (not that I would ever recommend the 3d version over the PSP's complete collection)

I used Amarant a lot in 9, but I also tried to steal absolutely everything

Great job Jess! I hope you’re enjoying Final Fantasy

Irvine Kinneas is useful when bosses have many targets and for a fast paced victory.Amarant for quick and devastating attacks.Snow she was right is for staggering enemies but if you fight a group of monster he is the guy.Caith Sith you have to level him up to see his full potential and with the right equipment and materia he is a menace.

Now I'm wondering which 7 characters Jess didn't know before this video and if she agrees about the characters she did know of

I ALWAYS used Irvine, it was one of my party staples because he was awesome, though I never had an issue with his limit using ammo because I had a pocket station (the playstation's VMU), and as such, I ALWAYS had dark matter, and from that, an unlimited supply of pulse ammo

Amarant’s damage floor is soo much higher than everyone else’s.

I always used Kimarhi. Wakka and rikku on the other hand were always left on the bench. Then water fights were a pain

Red mages are great, especially in the remake of Final Fantasy 1. You can do a solo red mage run while the rest of your party takes a dirt nap, then upon promotion give your team the best lvl ups they can get.(They get the same lvl ups as both classes, and can survive the game solo just fine.) Red Mage gets the Lightbringer, a powerful sword that can spam holy. Outside of a few bonus dungeon challenges, a red mage can heal more than well enough to keep the party alive. At the end of the game your team can be so brutally offensive with a Knight, Ninja, Black Wizard you won't get hit enough care about healing. The red mage/wizard brings more to the table than a whitemage/wizard does. If everything is dead, you don't need heal anyone.

@nostrum6410

8 күн бұрын

red mage was still a bad toon to go with

in ff8 the least used character would probably be Selphie. Yes, she does have "The End", which literally ends the current phase of the fight. But it's tedious to "Do Over" until you get it. Quistis will probably be used extensively for farming purposes (Initiative+Degenerator). And Zell, Squall, Irvine and Rinoa are all capable of big damage. So in the end, there is really no reason to use Selphie. While i love ff8, game is really unbalanced. But there are mods out there that overhaul the whole battle system. If you like ff8 it's worth looking into them.

@nighthero7

5 күн бұрын

I would agree that Selphie's is the weakest due to Limit RNG and the fact using magic outside of draw cast is bad. Her one upside though is with just Ifrit and her Ultimate weapon, she can auto-kill with undodgable basic attacks, so there is that. Only Squall can claim to do that.

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

Selphie + Aura is more for the endless Full Cures. Full Cure comes up on her slot like 80-90% of the time when she's buffed with Aura. With her in the group, you will never die, even if the boss breaks all of your Curaga spells, lol. The End is cool and all that, but that's not why I love her.

@achilleaskifonidis5824

3 күн бұрын

@@Dhalin It depends on how you play. If you play aggressively and know how to utilise the junction system you don't need much healing most of the time. And at disc 4 you can pretty much stock on invuln items and stop caring altogether. While I love ff8, since it was one of the first games I've ever played, it's gameplay is really bad. That's why I love the modders. The gameplay overhauls are great. And so was one story overhaul I played recently.

Kimahri is so cute that I mostly feel bad for not using him, but he really is quite bad in battle :( But there are some characters on this list that I use quite often. Like Amaranth who is great in the story-game. I also like the red mage but I really do recognize his flaws....

People seem to be sleeping on Amarant. Yeah, as a character, he's poorly written, unimportant, and off-putting, but his moveset is amazing. "Lacks a full hit ability"? He can easily hit the 9999 damage cap through sheer power. He's a jack-of-all trades done well. High physical damage output, a magic attack with a shifting element based on his equipped weapon, excellent support abilities, healing, rezzing, pre-rezzing. If all of that isn't good enough, he can just throw money at the problem, literally. Sorry... I get a little defensive about FF9, and Amarant is my favorite character in terms of design and mechanics. From a literary perspective? Yeah... I get the hate. On that front, it is totally earned.

Yup, I expected the comment section to go hard on the Irvine defense.... personally, I didn't use him much myself, but still knew how strong he was. It's Sephie imo that you would likely use the least unless you know how to get "The End" to go off reliably.

@Dhalin

3 күн бұрын

I love how everybody who mentions Selphie talks about The End, and says nothing at all about how busted Full Cure is. Like, dude. Cast Aura on her, and Full Cure comes up at least 80% of the time. She can full-heal the party every turn she gets while the other two can just focus on damage. Irvine and Squall with Aura means the boss is down in a few turns.

@DarkFrozenDepths

3 күн бұрын

@@Dhalin full cure is counterproductive if you want to use limits more often

umaro was the best character with his relics to bring to the world of ruin tower of magic... he could over ride the rules and use melee the whole way which all of the mobs were super vulnerable to.

i wont argue with a normal playthrough of ffx, however if you play it no sphere grid, Kimahri is SOOOOOOO USEFULL till Yuna gets summons

OK, I’ll give you Amarant even though I used him because I thought he was cool, but Irvine is one of the most busted players in all of Final Fantasy 8. his limit break is pretty insane as soon as you get access to doom train and fast ammo.

I saw the thumbnail, and wtf? I always used Irvine Kinneas he's one of those OP characters in FF8 especially in early game.

In fft ms. Mal comes with a save the queen. So she's a big boost to agries sword skills when you equip he with it

Irvine is incredibly op, what are you talking about? Amerit is also good with utility. Especially with he can counter spells with the same spells that hit him. Kmirie is very op if you exploit the sphere grit.

Isn’t Irvine considered the best to have on your party as he’s utterly OP

I use Irvine all the time. I enjoy his character and his Limit is always fun to use because of the level of interaction in the game itself.

Umaro, Gogo, and Mog -- can't play with them in FFVI but I also can't let them go undiscovered.

@steveperry2321

6 күн бұрын

Gogo is a beast. But MOG strago rely and umaro I rarely use unless forced

Jess I criticized your pronunciation of a character name one time and I apologize for that. Bad show on my part. You’re a great presenter and you did a bang up job on this list.

Red mage is suggested at the game start with the default party, so pretty much everyone played through FFI the first time with a red mage. Cait Sith is literally the most broken character in FFVII. His slots limit break can instantly kill any enemy in the game, and it can be slowed through button pressing to ensure the player gets the desired outcome. Why no honorable mention of the original Edward as the progenitor useless character? He was the spoony bard!

I actually remember using Kimahri quite a bit while playing Final Fantasy X. Yes, he's the jack-of-all-trades character in a game where you can swap them all in and out of the front line, but FFX compensated for this, and the return of turn-based mechanics, with a heavy focus on strategy and planning. Even normal encounters could go south fast if you played lazy or careless, and a lot of the boss battles required the player to get incredibly creative with how they used their abilities. Which is why I always appreciated having that jack-of-all trades character, not just who could use piercing attacks and learn steal long before Auron and Rikku joined the party, but who could quickly jump in with any other of my must-have abilities if the corresponding specialist suddenly became compromised. Remember that blob thing you had to fight to start unlocking Auron's limit breaks? The one that was resilient to physical damage AND could absorb magic attacks? If Kimahri couldn't cast haste and didn't have a second piercing weapon, that's where the game would have ended for me.

I always played with Irvine, Zell, Selphie, and Squall. I didn't care for Quistis or Rinoa, whatever their names are, and if I could've, I would have not played with Squall as well. The dude brought my mood down. Had to edit just to vent my disappointment! I love snow and always used him. I never really liked using Hope and Vanile, however you spell her name.

Irvine is broken as hell, always in my party once obtainable except when the game forces otherwise. Red Mage is also broken as hell if you give it the right equipment, as it can use most of the games most useful spells that aren't Ultimates (Lv.8), and is very Sword and Armor savvy, being the ONLY mage that can boast that and take quite a hit without going down, majority of my parties consist of at least 1 Red Mage and 1 Thief. Kimahri is abysmal as a Blue Mage, that is true, but also is great for hunting alongside Auron because both have weapons that constantly come with pierce, and if you are planning to do the monster collecting sidequests, that comes in quite the handy as most of the worst enemies to collect, are armor types.

Did you know that sacrifice Cait Sith did (and came back from) Was there to make people think all the characters are going to be fine and there is nothing bad going to happen. And we all know what happens after. On a side note if you use him in the temple of the ancients after Aerith’s death he will do his fortune dance then sheepishly walk off… as Aerith had no future.

I was actually much more a physical attack player, using magic to heal self & hinder enemies. So… Umara when he’s doling out 9999 per hit, was actually ok, especially when the whole roster had to b split into multiple parties for certain dungeons. Almost every character gets to see play & I wouldn’t want to get caught with any weak link in my chain

Did a wonderful job of pronouncing names! Lol Amarant was a fav character of mine by design but can agree he wasnt my go to for fighting in FF IX