1. Jung = Answer to Job 2. Jung = On the Nature of Psyche 3. Owen Barfield = Savingthe Apperances 4. Patrick Harpur = The Philosopher's Secret Files 5. Thomas S. Kuhn = The Structure of Scientific Revolution 6. Andrès Ortiz-Oses = The Sense of the World 7. Noam Chomsky = Language of Mind 8. Jacques Vallée = Passport to Magonia 9. Arthur Schopenhauer = The World as Will and Representation 10. Peter Kingsley= Reality

@Belquer

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@rmmccarthy1240

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, 475!

@sawtoothiandi

8 ай бұрын

danke!

@AdolfStalin

8 ай бұрын

I could only find a handful of these in the states but it’s whatever

@sawtoothiandi

8 ай бұрын

@@AdolfStalin the jung at least should findable, routledge press

Rudolf Steiner used to point out, that it is futile to try an defeat materialism, as it is simply one of a variety of viewpoints of thinking (idealism being another one). It's findings are not wrong, they just represent one of many angles. People spend too much time nailing themselves to one point of view, where they could try to move in thinking, and view an object from various positions.

@abbasalchemist

8 ай бұрын

Very true. But our so-called materialists only do have a half-ass job of understanding Matter. To be a true materialist is to view matter and perceive it in all its strangeness and numinosity.

@kevinlogan6171

8 ай бұрын

@@abbasalchemist happy to see you here brother

@lindaraereneau484

8 ай бұрын

Or one could say materialism is correct within its domain but is a special set within a larger set, not the totality of reality but pertaining to a spectrum or part of reality that can be accessed by material perception and material tools.

@abbasalchemist

8 ай бұрын

@@lindaraereneau484 I agree, this is certainly the case. And so-called Materialists look at the surface of things and think they've apprehended the essence of the Material. They cut a fruit in half and gaze inside thinking they've reached one step closer to deciphering the mystery of matter yet fail to notice that all they've revealed is yet another surface. Matter is paradoxically impenetrable and infinitely divisible.

@bradmodd7856

8 ай бұрын

Likewise the physicist Rovelli points out the same thing, that we don't know what matter or ideas are yet, so it is too soon to reduce the universe to one or the other and he claims that most quantum physicists take this position and that he doesn't know any of the so called Materialists that BK rallies against because it was accepted science from 150 years ago, not today.

"The Payne translation has none of that malarky". Love it. Bernardo has a wonderful command of English. I could listen to him all day. Thank you for this wonderful conversation.

@fourshore502

4 ай бұрын

Youre welcome.

Analytic idealism shares a lot of parallels with Advaita Vedanta. I watch lectures by Swami Sarvapriyananda and recommend them to all who are interested in this mode of thought.

@cashglobe

8 ай бұрын

Then you’d definitely love Bernardo’s chat with Swamiji :) I agree there are many parallels, Advaita is a bit more like Dual Aspect Monism but I feel it’s somewhere in-between Idealism and Dual Aspect Monism. In Advaita, Brahman is the Ultimate Reality, from which consciousness and the illusory material world both arise. Idealism says that Consciousness is the Ultimate Reality. DAM says that there is an underlying reality from where the consciousness we experience and the material world are manifested. However, in Advaita, Consciousness is more fundamental than the material world. It’s Existence-Consciousness-Bliss. Idealism is Consciousness. Dual Aspect Monism is Existence: Consciousness/Matter. So again, it’s somewhere in between 🤪

@misaeldavid7

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@pueraeternum

8 ай бұрын

​@@cashglobe The way you describe advaita as a mode of thought can't be what it really is because that is just a point of view from someone looking at it from the outside. The "outside" is more figurative because the real vantage point here is another mode of thinking. Like an intellectual filter that compares and categorizes what it sees into it's own manner of seeing. That's where we get all these isms. Where as advaita itself deals with looking at things from the "inside" and again this is speaking figuratively because the inside is your own direct and actual experience and that is above any intellectual translation or mental imagery.

@FearlessWisdom

8 ай бұрын

Analytic idealism is closer to Yogacara Buddhism, since Vedanta is theistic and analytic idealism is not.

@michaeldillon3113

8 ай бұрын

I humbly say that I think you are correct on many levels . Swami Sarvapriyananda is a brilliant orator . Also for a long time I thought that quantum physics , more and more , was giving a scientific basis to advaita Vedanta . Also Idealism gives a philosophical basis to advaita . Bernardo brings all these elements together . He had a great discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda and is due to have one with Michael James , who knows a great deal indeed about the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi ( who is/ was the embodiment of Advaita Vedanta) . ✌️🙏🕉️

Huge respect for mentioning Valle and his book. With Bernardo we have yet another brilliant intellectual accepting the reality of UAP and the phenomenon and the new paradigm we’re about to enter. Fascinating times ahead

Only just started watching this vid but already the WARMTH of these two men is palpable. I've noticed that about healthy-minded people--they are firm in their beliefs and practices while having warmth in their personalities. Thanks for this terrific video. Also I feel that 'Saving the Appearances' by Owen Barfield is indeed a profound and accessible survey of thought and consciousness.

Oh guys, I love these 1 to 1 chats, ❤️🇬🇧

Bernardo, you're a hero too, your path is true. Thank you from a Ukrainian city under fire

I feel great affinity and a strange closeness to You Bernado. I really appreciate you and all that you do and all that you are. I never normally say this or comment on anything but Thankyou for sharing yourself and all that comes through you 🙏

Great idea to share the roots of your ideas in books.

@essentiafoundation

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

Glad to see Kuhn. Super underrated philosopher of science.

@gabriel.knight

4 ай бұрын

Underrated? Kuhn and this monograph is the first thing discussed and cited in ANY discussion of the sociology of science.

This is priceless! Thank you, Bernardo and Hans!

This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZread channel 6 months ago about self development. Now I have 501 subs and > 100 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.

@4thlinemaniac356

7 ай бұрын

They skipped the best most important book Thinking And Destiny by Harold Percival not to mention these Authors Mauro Biglino Marcel Grauile and Paul Wallis

A wonderful talk. One note: The Red Book is a Magician’s grimoire.

@TobiasC-mg4zk

7 ай бұрын

Liber Novus is scripture.

I have all these books and because like Jung I have a strong interest in Gnosticism my recommendation would be The Exegesis of Philip K Dick the American Sci-fi writer whose books were so good several were turned into Hollywood movies. Phil states in this book that he like Jung was a Gnostic. Two questions dominated Phil's thoughts throughout his life, What does it mean to be human and what is the true nature of reality! At a famous press conference in France in 1977 Phil talked about retrocausation, the future influencing the past, and claimed he had lived the future in an Ouspensky time loop and 13 years before Nick Bostrom claimed, we were in a simulation.

@mynamedontmind

7 ай бұрын

Remember the last published book by Dick which is a statement. But probably you just like his psychotic times in which he suffers.

@samrowbotham8914

7 ай бұрын

@@mynamedontmind he died before finishing his last book I am a friend of Tessa his last wife.

Wow! This was so much more than a list of books. I learned so much about the history of philosophy and many other topics. Thanks for this. Fantastic!

great!!! you should do more videos like this one.

Oh, only halfway through this video and it is already saved on my "Best of BK" playlist. I am laughing in part because I got "into" BK and idealism seriously about a year ago and have been struggling to decide what books I should read to fully understand idealism. (If any of you have suggestions for good books to read for somebody who is still a "beginner" please feel free to lmk! I've read all of BK's books and am trying to get started with getting a better comprehension of idealism's history and growth. Thanks!)

@craigbowers4016

7 ай бұрын

I just finished Jung's "Answer to Job" and have to confess, that while I found it quite interesting I was sometimes catching myself wondering how the topics discussed were going to be connected to idealism and materialism. I am still quite a novice at all of this, so I am looking forward to a video covering these books. I truly do want to study and explore this and by this I don't just mean an "Idealism for Dummies" 5 minute little article. I am looking forward to just thinking. (And like I mentioned before, if any of you have any suggestions for books/articles to read to learn more about idealism/philosophy please share. The next book on my list to read is "Idealism: The History of a Philosophy" by Jeremy Dunham, Iain Hamilton Grant, and Sean Watson. This book seems like one that may prepare me to start reading more actual philosophers. Okay, I'll stop ranting on a YT page! LoL)

@josephdebri8941

7 ай бұрын

@@craigbowers4016 The Supreme Doctrine by Hubert Benoit is a must read. Quite turgid, but worth the effort.

@4thlinemaniac356

7 ай бұрын

​@@craigbowers4016One cannot believe folks who had zero idea to the nature to God like Jung @Thinking And Destiny by Harold Percival @ The Naked Bible by Mauro Biglino @ The 5Th Kind channel Author Paul Wallis The Conspiracy of Eden @ The Pale Fox by Marcel Grauile the Nommo created US before the Anunnaki/Elohim enslaved US.

@craigbowers4016

7 ай бұрын

@@josephdebri8941 Thank you! I just looked into it a bit on GoodReads and it is definitely going onto my list. Ah! There are so many interesting things to explore, I wish I could simply retire and sit in my bed or--as I am right now--coffee house and read or study (which includes listening to videos like this) for the rest of my life. Okay, back to reading Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Representation". I'm about 200 pages in and I have to say that while I probably only understand half of it, I am truly fascinated by it.

This is one of the best videos I've watched on Essentia Foundation! I'll start from Answer to Job ! Thank you so much!

Another outstanding episode, thank you for all you do Bernardo and team 🙏🏻

I am so happy to discover your channel and watch videos like this, tones of inspiration and long reading lists awaits ! :) Thank you guys for your great work !

Barfield was a member of The Inklings, which included CS Lewis and Tolkien, who is said to have been profoundly influenced by Barfield.

@MILESVSOLDIER

8 ай бұрын

I wasn't aware of this. Thank you!

@whoaitstiger

8 ай бұрын

This is awesome, thanks for this insight!

@swainsongable

8 ай бұрын

I was assigned Barfield for a History of Science course in uni, and Kuhn the following year - same Prof included Castaneda and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, the latter being the topic for our term paper. (But I'd already read Pirsig a decade prior as a teenager, which is when it changed my life - and WHY I was in that course taught by Morris Berman, who wrote The Reenchantment of the World :)

@michaeldillon3113

8 ай бұрын

What joy it would have been to share a pint with those exulted people in the Eagle and Child in Oxford .

@nifftbatuff676

8 ай бұрын

Ok, thanks for the warning.

Bernardo 👍🏻 The Cure 👍🏻 Patrick Harpur 👍🏻

What a joy to listen to and see Bernardo K in his own milieu - am working my way through several of his volumes. This is a marvelous real-time, unedited and unintermediated encounter with a deep thinker and original polymath of our time. At university, I took Philosophy 101 taught by Thomas Nagel - I was lost (despite many funny moments in his lectures) and dropped out after a month. In my old age, I’ve been reading Nagel selectively. The bat essay had not yet appeared when I was in the course, but it is quite fascinating to read now.

Woah, Jacques Vallée. Such a courageous choice. And I absolutely agree-it's the rhinoceros in the living room. The existential, technological, political, religious and academic consequences for this revelation can't be overstated. It is quite literally the most profound realization for us as a species - yet, all of academia is in total denial. Liked/subscribed.

@kulturkriget

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, it is like living in bizarro world when the most important issue is just ignored. Or not even ignored, it is like they turn off their brain every time it comes up. I recently saw one physicist just answering the question about Grusch testimony with a "I don't believe we are visited by aliens" with no explanation why, and, more importantly, no explanation at all what is going on in the congress. Normally if you believe something is false you still have an interest in finding out what the implications of that belief actually is. Like, what is happening now if it is all lies, what would be the purpose? Wouldn't that be interesting to find out? It is just baffling.

@4thlinemaniac356

7 ай бұрын

Pfffft Religious???@Mauro Biglino The Naked Bible @ Thinking And Destiny by Harold Percival @The Pale Fox by Marcel Grauile OR for a Summary @ Clif high channel Kazaria video before The Cosmic Interview Parts #1 & #2 featuring Dr Lee Merrick

Thanks for sharing. What a fabulous set of books. 🙂🙏🏼

I've read "Reality" five times and am looking forward to the sixth.

@craigbowers4016

7 ай бұрын

It is the tenth book on the list, but I am seriously thinking about reading it soon. It sounds truly intriguing. Would you say that it is a good book for someone who knows a little bit about philosophy but is far from an expert?

@michaelhellerslien1602

7 ай бұрын

@@craigbowers4016 Yes, it's accessible. It's also a lot of fun as it reads like a mystery. The text is intertwined with a pre-socratic poem that puts its finger on something that feels intuitively true.

@TobiasC-mg4zk

7 ай бұрын

Beyond these great points, the reader can use Reality as a guide to rediscovering some extraordinary exercises in consciousness that were practiced by Parmenides and Empedocles. This is difficult to describe in any western frame of reference without co-opting terms like yoga or shamanism. These exercises are extremely powerful and life changing once you get the hang of them.

@BlankBey0nd

7 ай бұрын

Read zizek

@Blackdragon87100

7 ай бұрын

@@craigbowers4016 after reading it I've never been the same

Thank you very much for all the books shared! To my shame I haven't read any of them, except for Schopenhauer. He's my childhood hero after all 😊 As for Bernardo, Im as impressed with his brilliance, as confused with his view on the tragedy in Ukraine. Provided you believe in "from all things One and from One thing all" there could be no universal good or evil, where you stand is what you see. In case you believe in a free will - consequentially you believe that either side can stop the conflict in 24hrs. And if both choose not to - both are equivalently evil. In case you dont believe in a free will - you have to treat the tragedy of war as a natural disaster (human species are a part of nature after all) with no one really left to blame.

@TobiasC-mg4zk

7 ай бұрын

Supposing I do believe in free will, if Russia quits tomorrow then the killing stops. If Ukrainians surrender tomorrow there will be no Ukraine shortly thereafter. Putin recently tipped his cards when he said that this war isn’t about territory. Political and moral philosopher Vladimir Vexler interprets this cryptic remark to reveal Putin’s borderless vision of the Russian empire. A fascism borderless and Red as Aleksandr Dugin refers to it.

Very interesting discussion. It was pleasing to see Bernardo crediting Schopenhauer with being the most important figure within Idealism which he undoubtedly is. The World as Will and Representation is a such a seminal book and the work of a true genius. He produced the first fully fleshed out version of Idealism within mainstream Western philosophy.

@sciagurrato1831

7 ай бұрын

Bernardo’s book on Schopenhauer is striking and has riled up traditional Schopenhauer academics (“constipated academics” indeed). For me, Schopenhauer was not just a gloss on Kant, but actually went beyond him. Schopenhauer was the complete thinker - not only the depth of his thought, but the range of his curiosity and propositions. However, I don’t agree with Bernardo’s judgment on Schopenhauer as a person but then he’s probably not read much about AS’s life. And AS had an amazing life.

@runningfree1973

7 ай бұрын

@@sciagurrato1831 Yes, Kant forms the foundation of Schopenhauer's philosophy and the works of both Kant and Schopenhauer are best understood as comprising a single unified and interdependent system of philosophy. In fact, Schopenhauer urges his readers to first read Kant in order to better appreciate his own work. Another excellent and underrated secondary source on Schopenhauer is Bryan Magee's, 'The Philosophy of Schopenhauer', which I highly recommend. Like you, I disagree with the conclusions Bernardo draws regarding Schopenhauer's moral character. He certainly didn't suffer fools gladly but despite his flaws he was obviously highly attuned to suffering in the world. Sadly, and somewhat surprisingly, based on a number of comments Bernardo has made on this and various other issues, it seems he has succumbed to the woke mind virus. Apparently, even the most intelligent among us are not immune.

Wonderful. I actually discovered Bernardo through Patrick Harpur. Some googling one day led me from Harpur to 'Meaning in Absurdity,' which is one of the most important books I've ever read. Both writers helped to soothe my soul, if only a little bit. But that's more than most. I'm very grateful.

I really enjoyed this discussion and I am just starting out in reading philosophy so this was great. Thank-u Essential Foundation and of course Bernardo:)

I listened to all of this. Was already aware I knew very little about not a lot beforehand. Deeply reinforced that notion! Very interesting. Thank you.

Carlos Castaneda also made the distinction between the described, language-dependant world and the non-described world in his Don Juan books. He called them _Tonal_ and _Nagual_ . It’s similar to Schopenhauer’s world as representation and will. I’d love to hear Bernardo’s thoughts about Castaneda’s work.

@DannyPoet

6 ай бұрын

so true.. it makes me think of when i was learning a new language & living in Europe. the language was backwards to english line construct - so you had to actually change the way you think of communicating things logically.. very weird & ace. after a year abroad I felt it was rewiring my brain lol .. then u consider meaning without words as definition.. they say people who take silence vows stop thinking in words

A wonderful interview. Hans has been a tremendous addition for the Essentia Foundation.

Great discussion - thank you

What joy ... what pleasure to hear you two gentlemen ... so beautiful.

Thanks, I was waiting for this.

"Very important things happen in 1974…" one of them was the Revolution of April, 25 in Portugal. A new politic and social paradigm was born there. Thanks for sharing this books and talk.

wow cool to see passport to magonia on that list! the only one i have read of them. it had a deep impact on me as well. when i first heard of this book i thought it sounded absolutely loopy but boy did i do a 180 after educating myself more and reading it.

A book club! And a reading list! This is exactly what I was looking for. . . Thank you, mind!!

Great idea! Love this

Excellent discussion, but I felt that Hans missed a key opportunity. When BK stated that ufo disclosure would happen in the next few years, the question would be: “Does this prediction arise from your understanding of idealism, or are you privy to insider information?” Or at the very least: “What makes you say that with such confidence?” It struck me as an unusual statement coming from BK. Not because of the ufo reference, but because he was making a specific prediction about the future based on nothing he had said up to that point. It seemed out of character for him. I sensed BK wanted a follow up question, but the topic made Hans uncomfortable.

@essentiafoundation

8 ай бұрын

Indeed, I was a bit unprepared for this one:) and didn't want to go to deep into a rabbit hole during our conversation, but from a journalistic point of view I should have pushed on... So WILL follow up on this with Bernardo in our next sit down conversation. Thanks for this honest feedback, it's helpful!!

A very compelling list and overview - thank you for this. Bernardo, I have several of your books and have seen you on New Thinking Allowed a few times. It would be awesome if you wrote a book focusing on Daimons! Please consider doing so. Cheers from Toronto, Canada

Surprised not to see Plato on here but good list none the less. I’m going to pick up a couple of these. Also, really interested in the red book now.

Marcus Mueller deserves so much more limelight 🎉 His "Law without law" was truly awe-inspiring read for me

Great video! It's helpful to hear Bernardo's perspective on the contents of these books. To say the least, he has a knack for explaining things well. Would love to hear more about the history of materialism. Any Essentia videos around this topic would be awesome. Apparently the hard problem of consciousness wasn't a thing before the enlightenment era? You talked about projecting the linguistic structure onto the world (e.g., thing exists outside of me). Since ontological views seem to be cultural, was there something different about language before the enlightenment? Keep up the great work!

More lightly structures conversations like this, please!

I deeply appreciate your dedication for the waking up of humanity - what a great talk. 👌

The book "I Am That" was missed in the list of books. Nonetheless, great pointers by Bernardo.

What is the paragraph in "Jungs Answer to Job " that changes one's life?

Thx you Bernardo😊

What a good idea: a book club to whet our appetites or quench our thirst.

Can't wait for future videos! I've tried reading Schopenhauer, I just didn't get it. Kuhn was very influential for me, thats the one book I've read in this list. I feel I'm going to be pretty skeptical about Passport to Magonia, but I will try not to pre-judge. I've tried reading Kastrup's own The Idea of the World..., but I found it pretty tough going also.

I just HAVE to get my hands on these materials!

Great video, I've already ordered Answer to Job and will read World as Will and Representation next

Great talk. Great host..respectful

Goodness, what a valuable video! Thanks very much.

Great review of books, Helps one to decide what to read

Love this Jung , Patrick Harpur- Daimonic Reality is also a great read. Bernardo is one of my hero’s👍

In regards to the fine tuning problem, I would check out Tom Campbell's explanation ( which does not involve parallel universes ), it's the best one I've heard so far. In short, this is a simulation which was run and tested many times , most of which failed because the initial conditions were not right. It was started again, maybe thousands of times, each time tweaking a certain function until it found the right balance of physical laws that worked . That's why this virtual reality we call the physical universe appears to be fine tuned, because it was. No big problem if you follow MBT !

@mikedavis979

8 ай бұрын

MBT?

Thank you both Hans and Bernardo for this beautiful, enriching talk. Seeing the last 3 months many of Bernardo interviews on many different platforms, which i also value very very high, i found some pattern in his approach to eastern philosophies similar to that of Jung. There was some resistance of Jung towards the eastern approach mentioned by Heinrich Zimmer who wished he would have visited the great Maharishi in Tiruvanamalai on his trip through India. But Jung did not go there and if i remember properly he told him, what i could find there…“ There is no village or country road where that broad-branched tree cannot be found in whose shade the ego struggles for its own abolition, drowning the world of multiplicity in the All and All-Oneness of Universal Being“ It is obvious an excuse which Zimmer really hit. I think Jung felt that going there he could not have gone on with his western approach of thinking or giving birth his alchemistic ideas with which he was pregnant at that time. He felt that he was not ready or did not want a short cut and he would have been stigmatised as running to a Guru which would have ruined his whole work. Although Bernardo is having deep knowledge of eastern traditions and is having even Nisargattas I am That on his book shelf, very very often he says people pursuing eastern paths want to escape suffering. This maybe a reason in orthodox introductions of Vedanta,/ advaita vedanta, but really none, really none of the known personalities like Nisargadatta, Vivekananda , Ramakrishna, Jogananda, Ramana and many other western seekers verbalised ever that escapism was ever there goal, it was always finding god, experiencing god. The same with real Christian followers. They want to be in the holy Spirit and nobody aspires suffering as end in itself. Of course due to the dramatic life of Jesus, and the many writings about suffering it got a tool, a stepping stone towards god which was valued very much in western traditions. Please go on! Best regards from Vienna !!! Forgive my amateurish thoughts.

@stevenpham6734

8 ай бұрын

Coming from an Eastern background, I cannot imagine a way which (psychological) suffering is THE way to god. My limited knowledge of Western thoughts reconciles with this is this: the path to god is a sacrificial path, if suffering comes along the way then it is ok to suffer (not that you HAVE to suffer in order to get to god). Wonder your thoughts on it?

@copyninja8756

8 ай бұрын

People search for God to escape suffering

I need a job where I can justify reading all day.

@keithparker1346

7 ай бұрын

Become unemployed

really good discussion..

so interesting ...

You guys are great! A friend of mine sent this chat of yours my way… and I subscribed to your channel as a result. That act of mine trumps any adjectives I might otherwise throw your way. Cheers

Discovered this channel recently and I am very impressed with some video's with Hans and Bernardo, so in the basis a lot of appreciation and also gratitude to both men. However, the emotion Bernardo expresses (34:30 #7 Language and Mind - Noam Chomsky) seems in line with some superficial impressions I get from his X-account: this takes away just a little of my confidence as it seems to lack the philosophical meta-perspective. Taking an ethical stance is of course needed in various contexts, but to me it feels like Bernardo's emotions are taking over concerning these subjects.

Many thanks gentlemen. There’s my reading list for next year… plus one or two others by Bernardo eg Schopenhauer (before or after reading AS?!) 🙏🏻

Thank you. I'd love to have a guided tour through these books, or a book club with a knowlegeable leader. Is that coming? Thanks again.

@essentiafoundation

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I'm working on that! First book to discuss is 'Answer to Job' by Carl Gustav Jung, let me know if you have any particular questions on that book!

Very enjoyable. Thanks Gentlemen.

Great video.

Hans is such an adorable guy . And I owe my mental sanity to Bernardo and this is no joke.

34:25 physics is the syntax of nature 1:02:18 markus muller

I love Bernard when he starts off. I don't want to be too cryptic. lol I can't eat now after that. On another note Jung and Schopenhauer have greatly inspired me and of course Kastrup.

Very accurate your list, I personally have read Jung's entire work, but you can safely add Sara Reginella's book, Donbass la guerra fantasma, you will understand much more

Another great book is: "Science and Sanity" by Alfred Korzybski . An introduction to Non- Aristotelian systems and general semantics.

@christopherhamilton3621

7 ай бұрын

Hugely underrated indeed! An important part of the break & distinction between academia and early cross-disciplinary studies.

Very interesting talk, as ever Bernardo does a great job of communicating. Early on (about the 11-minute mark) he made a distinction between approaching this topic experientially or conceptually. I think this distinction is key, and is why so many maths/logic/left-brain types can be trapped in illusions when it comes to talking about consciousness. It's because they lack direct experience of all of it, that the more mystical/spiritual have. Hence they end up going around in circles. You could do another Top 10 Books list, just about the experiential side of this issue. Stuff like the Bardo Thodol, Terrence McKenna, Aleister Crowley, Dion Fortune, Israel Regardie, Rudolph Steiner.

@ubuntu21

8 ай бұрын

experientially or conceptually, is in its a paradigm.

@spacecityryder

8 ай бұрын

I really enjoy McKenna and Steiner. Never heard of the others you listed but I'll check them out.

@LambdaCalculator

7 ай бұрын

​@@spacecityryderSteiner is interesting, but those other recommendations should really come with a big fat disclaimer, because diving into things like Fortune, Crowley, and Regardie is a lot more than just exploring things experientially like McKenna did. Bernardo's warning in this video when he talked about Passport to Magonia, about how even people that chose to see reality can still be misled, should apply doubly so for those exploring these kinds of works, because they promote outright dabbling with rogue elements more powerful than yourself.

@inajosmood

7 ай бұрын

What you might forgot is that many people who you see like maths/logic/left-brain types, might have had direct experiences and all... But at some point, they came to the conclusion that these experiences are a function of their minds and that there is nothing more or nothing less to it, however profound these are. They found that this stuff in their mind will always be personal and that we also do live in a shared reality where we can verify stuff with other minds part of other bodies.... Or at least try to. I know what is possible when you dabble with stuff like Chaos Magick or Hermetiscism or the Kabbalah. Prank religions like the Discordians also found very interesting ways to fuck over their minds in an attempt to become enlightened. A few of their protagonists went to a mental institution. None of them teleported. I think all this is great to dabble with, because it shows us so much of what we are and aren't, but still nobody surpassed their humanness.

Thanks for the UAP headsup

I admire BK so much. I only wish Id the intellect to understand Jung enough to benefit. Back to Bernardo he comes across as a sincere compassionate and treats everyone with respect. He comes down to the level of the listener without ever making them feel stupid. A truly humble guy whose desire is to really help others. He never shows off though he well could.

I really appreciate both Bernardo and Chomsky and somewhat surprised to hear Bernardo’s very strong condemnation of his differences with Chomsky. I am going to speculate that the key difference is in viewing Russia from a European perspective and viewing Russia from the perspective of the American Empire. It would be interesting to hear both men discuss their differences.

I already read these books and it is a good choices...But if you read one writer read all Owen Barfield books because they are simple to read and very deep...Kingsley book is better than any thriller then ... And moving in a unique way...It is his best book... But about linguistic nothing beat Gustave Guillaume not even Chomsky...But very hard to study for english reader... I will recommend Wolfgang Schad book about mammals a life changing book... After Goethe book about plants...

Great interview. I already don't believe in the physical universe but discovered Kastrup after arriving at this conclusion. That seems to be a thing, LOL. I think we are a single electron existing within an older, homogenous, Universe I call Tao. The electrons bond together, since they no longer become matter, and a frequency is created. We are particles within that common frequency. If so, then each electron might be playing out every conceivable possibility from a unique action which spawned it. Like ripples from a stone's splash. If that's true then each electron would do the job of a string, or multiverse, and it's simpler. We know electrons exist.

This was fantastic

Yes Kingsley! I hope more people read him.

@abbasalchemist

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree!

@Pneumanon

8 ай бұрын

I have been feeling the pull to read Reality for a few years now, as well as the work of Corbin/Cheetham. I keep putting it off. Something tells me it will open up doors I won't be able to close again.

@abbasalchemist

8 ай бұрын

@@Pneumanon I confess that I felt the exact same trepidation and sense of crossing a threshold as you describe with respect to Reality. I can assure you, my life has never been the same.

@heygreydey

8 ай бұрын

just imbibed Kingsley’s latest, The Book of Life

@TobiasC-mg4zk

7 ай бұрын

Kingley’s writing has changed my life and worldview profoundly. I can deal with the guru mystique that surrounds him. His words are spellbinding like no other author I’ve read.

Another thing to add, sadly the fist part of this chat (the first video, not this one) which was filmed on the same day, is now littered with advertisements which makes it unwatchable. Not one or two they are happening every 6 mins (in the Uk), you probably are not aware of this. Thanks once again, this is such a beautiful channel…

@janklaas6885

8 ай бұрын

this is there biznizmodel,

@essentiafoundation

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know! I will look into it, to see if we can turn this off!

@tomthumb2062

8 ай бұрын

@@essentiafoundationno problem….

Let’s help youtube algorithm❤

Heel interessant .

Patrick Harpur's book is the last one I expected to find in here. Pleasantly suprised.

There are two conversations I would like to listen to before my life is gone. One is Kastrup with Wolfgang Smith and Kastrup with Vervaeke.

@Pneumanon

8 ай бұрын

Kastrup & Vervaeke have had discussions on Curt Jaimungal's Theory of Everything youtube channel.

@grdsinclairgrd

8 ай бұрын

@@Pneumanon thank you very much for the info. I am a follower of TOE. Thank you again.

This is an interesting discussion but I would like to explore with Bernardo the reason he finds the position of Chomsky on Ukraine so odious. I see the War as an extension of the American Exceptionalism Paradigm which follows the thought that America is the savior of the world and we need to move Nato to the East and do regime change in Russia. This is a dangerous idea that will kill us all.

@kulturkriget

8 ай бұрын

You know that Russia invaded Ukraine, right? It wasn't USA or Ukraine that invaded Russia. Chomsky is probably just stuck in some old anti-American mindset.

@oldman_eleven

8 ай бұрын

​@@kulturkrigetwhy did they invade. That is the question none of you are willing to look at.

@kulturkriget

8 ай бұрын

@@oldman_eleven We know why. Because Russia is an immature country and culture who can't handle their loss of importance, and they are stuck in a feudal mindset which means that they can't do diplomacy without threats and/or "bribes". They seems to be unable to understand normal trade relations. Same goes for Putin, who feel humiliated because he thinks he deserve more respect than he gets. West had finally had enough of his BS with this war.

@oldman_eleven

8 ай бұрын

@@kulturkriget I dont like the Putin dictatorship dont get me wrong. But NATO are breaking agreements without breaking them. They have pushed and provoked. And it all works out so well for the US war machine.

Great

I've been trying to decide which Vallee book to read 1st. Many recommend The Invisible College, Passport often comes up, but the one I'm most curious about is Messengers of Deception. Unfortunately, my public library system does not have any books by Vallee.

@colquest

8 ай бұрын

Surely they are cheap on Amazon

@kulturkriget

8 ай бұрын

How about Dimensions?

@rhyothemisprinceps1617

8 ай бұрын

Kindle versions are all $9.99, but I hate reading on Kindle (I don't have one, but can borrow one from a family member ). New paperbacks are pretty expensive & used are not much cheaper. There's also time to consider. If there is one book in which Vallee explains the purpose or meaning of the phenomenon - that's the one I want to read. @@colquest

@rhyothemisprinceps1617

8 ай бұрын

Some Amazon reviewers say Dimensions is almost identical to Magonia, but it is cheaper - so that's a plus. It is also shorter than Magonia; that could be a good thing if it contains all the same insights but is more concise. @@kulturkriget

Book 1: The paragraph.. But what does man possess that God does not have? Because of his littleness,puniness, and defencelessness against the Almighty, he possesses… a somewhat keener consciousness based on self-reflection: he must, in order to survive, always be mindful of his impotence. God has no need of this circumspection, for nowhere does he come up against an insuperable obstacle that would force him to hesitate and hence make him reflect on himself. CGJ : 1952 Just wonderful!!👍

@nicknijman2500

8 ай бұрын

"But what does man possess that God does not have?" Man possesses emotions unlike god, therefore man can experience perfect balance / pure love as an emotion unlike god. God can only experience perfect balance / pure love as a state of being. The fact that man can experience perfect balance / pure love as an emotion is a gift from god while god self is not capable of it. I find that quite romantic to be honest.

@thegeordierambler4373

8 ай бұрын

@@nicknijman2500 Well.. “Since [man] has been granted an almost Godlike power, he can no longer remain blind and unconscious. He must know something of God’s nature and of metaphysical processes if he is to understand himself…”

@nicknijman2500

8 ай бұрын

@@thegeordierambler4373 I agree. Man as a species has suffered from an identity crisis since its inception and man still does not know who or what it is as a life form. By understanding the nature of god man can learn to understand itself, or, by understanding itself it can learn to understand the nature god. Unfortunately, man still suffers from an identity crisis.

You can also add the research completed by the department of consciousness studies at Virginia university

So what was that paragraph regarding answer to job's suffering?

I highly-highly recomend you to read all Peter Kingsley books. He is truly a genius, just like Jung. "Ancient philosophy, mystery and magic", "In the Dark places of Wisdom", "Reality", "a story waiting to pierce you", "Book of Life" and his masterpiece "CATAFALQUE". I have read all of them, and you should also try. p.s. - also try "The Dialectics of Myth" of Aleksei Losev. In this book Losev rejected dialectical materialism and proposed that myth (idea) should be treated on equal terms with physical matter.

Hello, Hans . . . It's October 7 and I see you've posted a second book club video, but it's unavailable, at least to me. Is there something we have to do to gain access, like join your Patreon?

@essentiafoundation

7 ай бұрын

Hi Dorothy, I haven't yet posten another one, so curious what update you got that suggested that I did... But working on my review video of Book of Job and On the Nature of Psyche, coming up hopefully in two weeks time!

Thinking And Destiny by Harold Percival @ The Naked Bible by Mauro Biglino @ The Pale Fox by Marcel Grauile.

I read two of the 10 books already, answered your job. Truly, revolutionary. Profoundly insightful. I never thought of it this way,. The Israelis actual experience of Yahweh. If a mortal was clothed by this personality. They would be perceived as slightly sociopathic. The extravagant demands, the conch need for affirmation and worship, are all signs of a narcissistic personality or a borderline personality disorder disorder. People encountering this are often totally turned upside down.😮

You definitely have to read Dzogchen perspective. Both ontological and epistemology. Also Helgoland.

some good physics is a good support to idealism. what is life of schödinger, physics and philosophx of heisenberg, or anything of henry stapp will give you some solid arguments to dismantle physicalism