Jon -- As a relatively new subscriber, I appreciate the extra effort you put into your reviews with honest comments on the strengths of models balanced against their weaknesses, saving potential purchasers from having to discover them on their own. And if there is weakness, you offer a remedy, if there is one. The photography, editing, and chapters are top notch,.The narrative is informative and interesting. And, you balance your piloting skills for the novice as well as the advanced. Overall I'd say it's a 10/10. Thanks to you and your wife. -- Bob

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Bob! Our ultimate goal is for people to enjoy flying and have fun. Happy to hear from you!

Glad to hear you're working with KMRC burners. I love their burners! Easy to use and great price on them as well! I already have a few of them, and they were awesome in helping me out when I had a problem with one of them. Great company. They're my go-to for afterburners!

Thanks 👍and happy landings ✈️😃

I was told this is the fun jet to get, so I'll do that!

Very nice Jon, got to try one! Cool mod on the cannards. Glad to hear you going to KM RC Models Burners. Been using his for a while. So easy, and the V2 is really versatile.

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the fellow behind KMRC has wanted to work with us for a while now, so we figured it was time to change things up a little. Thanks man!

My experience with 64mm edfs, underpowered, with little flight times. Have had great success with Arrows 50mm, same speed with less weight more agility and better overall control than the 64s... Great follow-up video, always excited for Saturdays. I get a 1, 2 punch from jon, then tail heavy boys.. Good time to be in Rc

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

It's lacking just a little for thrust, but good energy management makes up for it!

Thanks for the canard mod idea, modified mine yesterday and tested it today, at standard cg, take off delayed, moved cg further back, flies great and landing so much better and slow….thanks again

@TwoBrosRC

9 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@chrisdaws2421

9 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC it’s gone from ok plane too…great fun in a small field, just so much better

@Biba22392

8 ай бұрын

What things do I need to adjust in my remote control for the modification? I understand trimming the elevator up, but do I need to adjust the gyro? I have the original Reflex v2 from FMS and want to keep it. Would be nice if someone could help me :)

@chrisdaws2421

6 ай бұрын

@Biba22392 fms gyro is not adjustable, works as is or turn off , either way it flies ok

@Biba22392

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisdaws2421 Okay, then the gyro works the same after modifying the canards and there's no need to adjust the gyro because of that and it just flys better than before right? Thank you very much!

Hi Jon, my crucial mod on this plane is changing to an 80A esc and fly on 5s 2200/2800. 50% more power and a whole bucket load more fun. Power to get out of problems and no alpha lock anymore.

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

At the cost of more wing loading, though. Useful if you're flying fast which is not something we're usually concerned with. Happy to see it works for you though!

Great video Jon! Can you please add more info on how actually did you attach the canards in this angle? What did you do to make it hold?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Just CA glue, nothing special!

Great review of this as usual....very informative. Just wondering what angle you modded the canards to... I've got one in the box still and would love to incorporate that.... Cheers

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

As far down as they can go. Roughly 15 degrees down.

Not looking for a small delta, but now i want one😂

5280 Afterburners Rule 🤙

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

They're definitely good!

@itzjoeylo4501

10 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC I’ve got a blue light for one of my custom built and painted assembled EDF jets. It’s my Freewing BaE Hawk bought the primed version. Still in the hanger, waiting for some nicer weather in Oklahoma 🇺🇸 to complete her paint job. Thanks for the great 👍 Content - As my wife would say, “You funny, you got jokes…!” 😂😆🤣

Great review! Could you please tell us your Spektrum settings für the servos and AS3X?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

150% rates, 2x gain, 17 roll, 45 pitch, 10 yaw.

Sorry Larry. I'll still be buying from you!! Gotta buy local!

I'm wondering if it might be possible to use the hinges from the Freewing 64mm F-18 to allow the canards to move in flight. I used the hinges on a Freewing F-8 to give it full flying stabs and it worked great.

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

It's probably possible, though it might be a lot of work for very little tangible benefit. The canards only begin to noticeably affect airflow at high AoA and slow speeds.

Great video after 1 year testing! One question, is it possible to use a 4 channel receiver for this model like the AR410 4 Spektrum? Thanks 😃

@TwoBrosRC

8 ай бұрын

You could use a simple 4 channel receiver, but you'd have no gyro which is absolutely needed if you get the CG far enough back.

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It's a good plane. Only complaint is the esc gets confused with the smc packs if you charge them to HV.

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

We didn't have that problem with ours, oddly.

Great Video! Is this FMS Rafale in your opinion, better than the xfly su-27?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! We've never flown anything from X-Fly so we can't speculate.

Hi, I bought the 64mm Rafale and now it's ready to fly. I set it up like you (AS3X with same gains + tilted canards). I have a last question before flying it. How much did you trim your elevator down with the tilted canards? Thanks again for your video - you're the reason I bought it and really am happy about it...

@TwoBrosRC

6 ай бұрын

Elevator is actually trimmed up with the canards pointed down. Try about 1 to 2mm up. You may need more or less depending on your center of gravity. Join us on Discord and share your flight with it! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

nice flights, can you tell me, if the canard flaps are fixed, why are they lowered forward?

@TwoBrosRC

5 ай бұрын

We explained in the video. Listen starting at 2:10

Thanks for the canard tip ... I just cut mine off and adjusted them. I'll try it out tomorrow if weather permits. Do you hand launch in "SAFE"?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Yup, we always launch in SAFE by hand. Be sure you trim the elevons up a bit to compensate for the downward canard position, otherwise it'll lawn dart on ya!

@allensrcadventures

10 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks.

A buddy bought this for me as a first edf for a birthday gift and it'll be in Thursday I can't wait to learn new flying characteristics. Should I glue the canards in at an angle if using this a a first jet?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

No, we'd recommend that you don't try this mod until you've gotten used to how it flies first.

@williamwallace9427

10 ай бұрын

Unless you plan on flying slow in big circles at high angle attack don’t ruin your new airplane

When you hand Launched with stock setup are you in stable mode?? or off?

@TwoBrosRC

5 ай бұрын

We used SAFE.

With rhe canard mod. It's needed fly with gyro? I have one and fly wo gyro.

@TwoBrosRC

7 ай бұрын

The canard mod is only needed if you're moving the CG back where we have it. At that point, a gyro becomes incredibly useful.

After the canard mod, do you still have as much up elevator authority during normal non high alpha flight?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

You need the trim in order to counteract the pitch down moment of the canards, regardless of what angle of attack the jet is flying in.

@flyingfools47

10 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC I was referring to whether or not the mod negatively affects the pitch up authority (even after being trimmed out)

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Not at all. If anything, it's more pitch sensitive because we're running a very aft CG.

Were you able to get to the wing mod yet? If so, any feedback?

@TwoBrosRC

3 ай бұрын

Full span elevons? Nope, haven't finished it yet - been way too busy with other projects. It's something we'd like to do in the future though.

Shi…. Now I’ll need to get this too 🤣 Did you try the Freewing 6S setup too?

@TwoBrosRC

3 ай бұрын

Nah, never saw the point to the extra wing load of 6 cells.

@ficosk8

3 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC yes thats the counterpart/disadvantage. The edf weights a bit more, the battery weights more and the ESC weight more. Than you are around 150g more on a lighter Lipo pack. That´s why I´m thinking to let my Futura 64mm just light 4S on my 180g packs... But sometimes speed and almost unlimited vertical are also cool xD

What battery did you use?

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

2200 4 cell packs. SMC sells great batteries in that range.

Curious, how do you go from 10/10 to 8.5/10. What changed?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Should be covered in the vid.

What about not flying with the canards at all or do they add alot to the performance of the jet ? I think the jet looks better without them.

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Without canards, it would likely need a lot of trim *and* a gyro to help stabilize it.

@williamwallace9427

6 ай бұрын

Yeah right 🤣🤣 It’ll fly better without the canards. It absolutely does NOT need a gyro. This guy gives amateur advice at best

AS3X Gains mix on the Throttle?? Did I hear this Correctly?! Can you make a how-to-do mix gains on throttle vid 😄👍

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Set gains to relative in your receiver, assign a mix of throttle to the gain channel you're using. Make sure it's a curved mix. On high throttle, reduce gains. On low throttle, increase gains. It functions similar to a full scale flight computer.

@feelgooddany

10 ай бұрын

@TwoBrosRC hey thanks for the quick reply. Gonna try to set it up .. but for now it's hocuspocus for me

@feelgooddany

10 ай бұрын

​@@TwoBrosRCstupud question: can I use this on every jet or just the Rafale?

Bro I have it but I’m waiting for the right time for the maiden

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

👀

“Crucial”?? Hardly. Gimicky? Yes

@TwoBrosRC

6 ай бұрын

Fixing the jet so it can't get stuck in high alpha isn't a gimmick.

Price

@TwoBrosRC

9 ай бұрын

💰

so basically it's more of a second jet

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

Sure, if you want it to be!

@ThePhantomRocket

10 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC I've flown a few planes, and some scratch builds, but I'm definitely still a beginner - medium skill pilot, my younger sibling is getting really good with the trainer, so I'm looking at maybe getting him something for Christmas :)