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#1: Airbnb's Director of Experience, Katie Dill, tells us why Airbnb uses "stories" to design

In our world premiere, Katie Dill, Director of Experience Design at Airbnb, channels her inner “Steve Jobs” to explain how design at Airbnb is not just how it looks, but how it works, both in the workplace and on the screen.
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  • @hectorwearden202
    @hectorwearden2025 жыл бұрын

    33:54 How do you explain the role of design to people within the business? 1. Educate: talk about solving problems (it's not just about how something looks like, it's how it works). 2. Tell a story about where something was poorly designed (after all, 'when good design is there, you don't even notice it' so show the opposite). 3. Design is for all. Share the 'story' & get others to participate.

  • @paolaquintero2172
    @paolaquintero21724 жыл бұрын

    It will be great to have subtitles in the videos in order to resolve accesibillity issues.

  • @marchenrytube
    @marchenrytube2 жыл бұрын

    Very insightful conversation, i can't believe this was recorded in 2017. She really knows her stuff.

  • @PerLundgrenper
    @PerLundgrenper7 жыл бұрын

    Good talk! I was especially inspired by their pair system where designers can complement and learn from each other. I think a lot of teams make the misstake of hiring people who have the similar strength, which severely limits the team as a whole. Katie also has a nice way with words, which always gets extra points from me as a writer who implements design thinking in my work.

  • @larissacoutrim3805
    @larissacoutrim38057 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently working as a business designer at an innovation company in BR, and watching this was such an inspiration! Thank you soooo much! Can't wait to see the next ones! 😄

  • @HighResolution

    @HighResolution

    7 жыл бұрын

    🤗 this means a lot, thank you for watching and stick around we have a lot coming your way

  • @TreavorUnion
    @TreavorUnion6 жыл бұрын

    I gave her a Lyft ride a couple of years ago. I was on a sabbatical in Austin and staying at a tech house Airbnb. I told her this and she was like "I work for Airbnb! In UX." I was like, "Oh hey! I'm a UXD, too!" And we talked about how Lyft and Airbnb have a similar ethos.

  • @victorw2306

    @victorw2306

    6 жыл бұрын

    and she's working for lyft now lol

  • @keylarodriguez579
    @keylarodriguez5797 жыл бұрын

    Love love love this episode! Thanks so much, this was a great first one! I enjoy learning how other design teams work, collaborate and communicate.

  • @JulioReguero
    @JulioReguero4 жыл бұрын

    She knows what she’s doing, and if you don’t believe me take a look at the design of Airbnb across mobile and desktop platforms. It’s gorgeous and for the most part intuitive.

  • @PAWSITIVELY.PURRFECT
    @PAWSITIVELY.PURRFECT10 ай бұрын

    As a UX Designer who will be starting his first major job at a major organization soon, where I probably will be one of the few UX designers there - that last part of the interview was SO crucial! Thanks for this folks!

  • @nicole_nico22
    @nicole_nico225 жыл бұрын

    Finally met Katie last night :) Now I came back here to watch this again!!

  • @gregorykendall1387
    @gregorykendall13877 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful to see how big companies work and think in term of design process. It also helps a lot for job interviews :)

  • @maxinemae652
    @maxinemae6527 жыл бұрын

    this was awesome. thank you guys for bringing this to the mass audience!

  • @shoaibprasad7749
    @shoaibprasad77497 жыл бұрын

    Loved this line (Design works well with data scientist team and user research team). This is the most common thing that is ignored while starting a design project. Loving this high resolution series.

  • @ExploringDiaries

    @ExploringDiaries

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Shoaib, Hope you're doing great. Design is proving its effectiveness across disciplines & the understanding for the same is going to be a part of the 'Design Thinking' series we will be starting. The trailer is out on our channel, it would be great if you could visit & join the conversation. Cheers! #AwesomeByDesign

  • @karthikrajendran3394
    @karthikrajendran33942 жыл бұрын

    She seems like a good leader. It would be a privilege to work for her.

  • @andressasiegel
    @andressasiegel7 жыл бұрын

    Amazing!! Thank you guys. I'm really excited for the next videos.

  • @subtlemeat
    @subtlemeat7 жыл бұрын

    I really really appreciate you guys efforts on designer interview. That brought a great benefit to other designers around the world. Thank you again for this!

  • @phinehasjoy7318

    @phinehasjoy7318

    7 жыл бұрын

    CC Cheng

  • @akshayverma1
    @akshayverma17 жыл бұрын

    Great initiative and thanks so much for doing this! You're putting this great treasure-chest of insights and advice into the reach of designers around the world, who'd otherwise have no way to access it. Medium articles and the like are great, but there's nothing like a good video interview. :) I'd definitely go over this again and pull out the actionable stuff that I can apply. But, it would be great if maybe at the end of these videos you guys could recapitulate a little bit or add timecode links to the main points in the video description.

  • @ExploringDiaries

    @ExploringDiaries

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Akshay, we completely agree with you. There maybe material available worldwide, but nothing comes close to learning from the people involved themselves. We are trying to create series on 'Design Thinking', the trailer is out on our channel. It would be great if you could check it & perhaps join the conversation as we release the episodes. Cheers! #AwesomeByDesign

  • @willphy1012
    @willphy10127 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Ever consider adding subtitles? That would be really helpful.

  • @bertrandlirette4782
    @bertrandlirette47827 жыл бұрын

    I was kind of surprised to hear that AirBnB's vision of design 3 years ago wasn't really up to date. Saying their designers were at the end of the production line is really surprising to me. Glad to see it changed now!

  • @mirandadragon8369
    @mirandadragon83694 жыл бұрын

    LOVED this interview!!! Thank you

  • @avelc7704
    @avelc77046 жыл бұрын

    thank you guys for putting out quality videos for our industry. respect

  • @KarimElkharraz
    @KarimElkharraz7 жыл бұрын

    Amazing guys keep on

  • @HighResolution
    @HighResolution7 жыл бұрын

    If anyone watching has any follow up questions about the stuff we discussed here, comment here and we will respond! 🤗

  • @MrIvanisawesome

    @MrIvanisawesome

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to know how Airbnb justify nearly 80 people working on the experience design team; what do that many people do? My frame of reference is advertising where an agency with 80 designers (an enormous number) would be servicing multiple clients. Thanks!

  • @Keefkerr

    @Keefkerr

    7 жыл бұрын

    If possible, would be interested in some of the guidelines that Katie's team follows when creating a user storyboard. Maybe an example or relevant article?

  • @15or20

    @15or20

    7 жыл бұрын

    For Airbnb and others, I'd love a high level overview of the company to see how each department weighs against other departments. I'd love to see how the design/UI/UX teams work with executive/the C-Suite and/or developers or other departments. I think it'd be interesting, but also show how the company's culture embodies itself through interdepartmental dialog... or lack thereof.

  • @MrIvanisawesome

    @MrIvanisawesome

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for responding @Katie Dill! Its actually crazy how much your team do considering how few people you actually have. Respect!

  • @HighResolution

    @HighResolution

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think it is important to clarify the roles on the team but I think this is a really good question. I don't think the team is only made up of designers. Experience design teams generally need to have content strategists, design ops, data analysts, user researchers, product managers etc. Katie discusses this at 35:39.

  • @empireravenshadow5
    @empireravenshadow52 жыл бұрын

    Can't believe this is free

  • @jingyilai6039
    @jingyilai60397 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the video. Is it possible to have captions? even auto-generated ones. I want my friends with hard hearing to see this as well

  • @helenchang2017
    @helenchang20177 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic interview! thank you! Any thought about adding subtitles? That would be helpful : )

  • @Dolfino
    @Dolfino7 жыл бұрын

    very interesting. Thanks for creating this show!

  • @AV-uf2bk
    @AV-uf2bk6 жыл бұрын

    80 talented individuals i have no idea how she keep them in a one track

  • @alessandrotrezzi1330
    @alessandrotrezzi13307 жыл бұрын

    Would be very interesting to have a look at some design deliverables. She's talking about storyboarding, videos, prototypes and the big wall, if I'm correct, with all the user stories / scenarios. Any chance we can have a look? Maybe in the upcoming episodes? ;)

  • @daanondecock6475
    @daanondecock64756 жыл бұрын

    I love AirBnB and have used them about 40 times, but its based on the strength of the end product of nice and affordable places to stay, and is despite their user experience which I find to be rather lacking. They have done little in the past 6 years to make it easier for you to find the right place and the right place in a fast and efficient fashion. I so want to be able to sort my results by price and reviews, I want to be able to hide homes that I've looked at and I know don't fit my needs, I often travel to go to an event and would love to be able to see on the map when searching where homes are in relation to my destination(s) and the distance from those destinations, I want to know and see where mass transit is compared to a potential AirBnB, I want trailers/campers to be their own category and not show up when I'm looking for actual homes, I want to know the safety ratings of an area I am thinking of booking in, I'd like the hosts cancellation policy to be more obvious and I'd like to be able to filter based on that, I have a couple of dozen great reviews and would love to have Super Guest status like how hosts can have Super Host status, is there self-check in or not, and I'd like hosts to have some requirements for standard photos they should be including (I won't book a place that doesn't have a picture of the bed(s) I/we will be sleeping in). As it is I spend so much time switching back and forth between Google maps where I have mapped out distances between points and figuring out what areas would work best, then I go back to AirBnB and search that area, then I go back to Google Maps and look at the Street View to check out the house and surrounding area, and then I get directions between that AirBnB and my destinations around the city and whether I can walk to them, get to them by light rail, or if I'll need to Uber/Lyft there when I didn't drive there. Which brings me to my next point, I wish AirBnB asked me about some of the upfront stuff like; am I flying or driving, will I have a car (whether I drove my own or rented), what time do I expect to arrive, is having coffee shops/restaurants or shopping nearby important to me or not, etc. Show me homes that match those details. What Katie sounds great, but I don't see how it's being applied at AirBnB.

  • @Jan123.

    @Jan123.

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daanon DeCock Awesome feedback. So true!

  • @latinamamai18

    @latinamamai18

    6 жыл бұрын

    Daanon DeCock Hi I’m about to reserve a 2 bedroom apt for 1 year through Airbnb. How do I know I’m not being phished. I saw the post online and I contacted the host via email. He responded via email and he sent me the link to book the reservation, but his email was not on the Airbnb list. What should I look out for?

  • @daanondecock6475

    @daanondecock6475

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have never used AirBnB for a long term booking. I think the longest was 4, maybe 5 days. Pretty sure AirBnB recommends that all communication between host and guest go through the app, I can definitely see where it would be easier to handle disputes that way, but I have used text and occasionally email to verify small details, like sending the host an ETA of my arrival if I am en route driving from another state. Even that though would probably be best done through the app. Say you show up and you have trouble checking in and something isn't as they said, AirBnB probably won't care if you only have that communication in a private text message. I definitely would never do any sort of payment discussion or handling outside of AirBnB. Also, read all the reviews and look for any red flags. If there aren't any reviews, probably not a place you want to select for a long term stay.

  • @NicolaDiMarco

    @NicolaDiMarco

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes! And let's talk about customer support! I've been suspended for a (their) mistake while traveling and it was basically impossible to contact them

  • @bernardmaling3575
    @bernardmaling35757 жыл бұрын

    OH MY GAW!! I went to a "UX" meetup and there was no storytelling. There was no problem-solving for the users. There was no personas that pinpointed direction. It wouldn't have been so maddening but they looked down on me for being a bootcamp graduate.

  • @giovanniatalmi2347
    @giovanniatalmi23477 жыл бұрын

    Really inspiring interview. Great work guys!

  • @empireravenshadow5
    @empireravenshadow52 жыл бұрын

    She knows her stuff

  • @batphobic
    @batphobic7 жыл бұрын

    Consider putting links in the video notes to things referenced during the interview, such as Katie's mention of a TED talk about chickens...?

  • @yichen5527

    @yichen5527

    7 жыл бұрын

    www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_why_it_s_time_to_forget_the_pecking_order_at_work

  • @qentrepreneurship9987
    @qentrepreneurship99877 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys thanks for this vid...great job, good quality

  • @graphixobeatz
    @graphixobeatz6 жыл бұрын

    Hi folks! Awesome! Some of y'all can to add subtitles of this videos? Our community need so much of contents like that. The rest of world thanks!

  • @SunLikang1216
    @SunLikang12166 жыл бұрын

    Good questions. Insightful answers!

  • @BLKMARKET
    @BLKMARKET3 жыл бұрын

    Great interview.

  • @YoussefRina
    @YoussefRina7 жыл бұрын

    amazing guys!

  • @harambeboy
    @harambeboy7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, keep em comin!

  • @natanadaz
    @natanadaz6 жыл бұрын

    How could I support you guys without purchasing any of the Partners products? Patreon? This whole project is absolutely beautiful, congrats and Thank you for that!

  • @hayleyxu7234
    @hayleyxu72346 жыл бұрын

    That's incredibly amazing!

  • @BornAndErrorOccur
    @BornAndErrorOccur5 жыл бұрын

    Some great gems dropped..

  • @ShoaibMahmudOfficial
    @ShoaibMahmudOfficial5 жыл бұрын

    Really Loved it.

  • @ShankarMurugesan
    @ShankarMurugesan6 жыл бұрын

    Very useful. Thanks folks🙏

  • @gluehAffe
    @gluehAffe7 жыл бұрын

    Great insights!

  • @rachelosborne4217
    @rachelosborne42177 жыл бұрын

    Awesome interview. Enjoyed!

  • @tejasbhalerao01
    @tejasbhalerao017 жыл бұрын

    "The people problem is the most important to start with; the business case and data should be supportive and not the lead."- Katie Dill (Director of Experience, Airbnb)

  • @DeepfriedBaby

    @DeepfriedBaby

    4 жыл бұрын

    "The business case, the quant data that you have behind it is absolutely useful; its supportive, it shouldn't be the lead."

  • @romanoshyyko6916
    @romanoshyyko69166 жыл бұрын

    Thank you guys! Great work

  • @azambarjastehUX
    @azambarjastehUX4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this interview

  • @benniasal6089
    @benniasal60896 жыл бұрын

    Thanks - awesome content!

  • @ruizhang5170
    @ruizhang5170 Жыл бұрын

    Very insightful😮

  • @ashutoshpuri512
    @ashutoshpuri5127 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!!

  • @benny_august
    @benny_august7 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome!!

  • @abroter
    @abroter7 жыл бұрын

    add a subtitle please

  • @arvindbhallamudi9585
    @arvindbhallamudi95853 жыл бұрын

    The best podcast!!

  • @SunOh-xp1jf
    @SunOh-xp1jf5 жыл бұрын

    Can you please provide the auto generated English subtitles for episode from 1 to 12 of this series?

  • @edrdesigner
    @edrdesigner7 жыл бұрын

    Super

  • @barbararezende5835
    @barbararezende58352 жыл бұрын

    Incredible!

  • @GlugEvents
    @GlugEvents7 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting. :D

  • @snippetsnackbooks-es
    @snippetsnackbooks-es7 жыл бұрын

    Very cool Vlog ;)

  • @stepoutdoorz
    @stepoutdoorz7 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff.

  • @jnever9768
    @jnever97687 жыл бұрын

    I get why people are reluctant to place blame in organizations that they are currently employed. But I'm sick of designers placing the blame on ourselves for being in that scenario as pixel pushers and not product thinkers. I guess it all depends on context but if she did her due diligence as she said she'd know exactly why the design role at airbnb wasn't working when she signed on. It seems like it is working now which is great but we should be honest with ourselves on how that scenario comes about.

  • @Vladyyy
    @Vladyyy3 жыл бұрын

    Has that Jennifer Lawrence type voice

  • @julianafeix1332
    @julianafeix13326 жыл бұрын

    I love it!

  • @tryciarafaela
    @tryciarafaela2 жыл бұрын

    Do you work with user experience and leave the subtitles hidden? Wow, nice experience.. Just not.

  • @zhongwang5776
    @zhongwang57767 жыл бұрын

    Great talk!Thanks a lot for sharing!Could you please use the automatic captioning function?I‘m not English speaker and very much hope to see the subtitle. Appreciate!

  • @AmitDas-fz9jy
    @AmitDas-fz9jy7 жыл бұрын

    Any references, detailed approaches to learn about stroies in customer journey mapping? I have read through the comments but anything specific on how to get started on it, detailed, would be great. I am planning to get this started at my company and it's going to be very helpful. Thanks in advance. :)

  • @kanakarajukanaka7467

    @kanakarajukanaka7467

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sesuw

  • @JasonoftheNorth

    @JasonoftheNorth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Amit Das There are several free UX classes now on places like Lynda.com and Udemy. You may find some stuff on Coursera, too. Journey mapping specifically may be labeled under classes like User Research or User Empathy. Good luck! 😊

  • @revolvency
    @revolvency2 жыл бұрын

    I'm more interested on High Resolution business model, but after 1 minutes it's already solved 👍

  • @jingyilai6039
    @jingyilai60397 жыл бұрын

    Are there captions?

  • @paintbox33
    @paintbox337 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, great Insights! I work in the same industry as Airbnb, would you guys be interested in interviewing one of our design leaders?

  • @ColumCoyle

    @ColumCoyle

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bernard Kearney what's your company name?

  • @paintbox33

    @paintbox33

    7 жыл бұрын

    Colum Coyle i work for HomeAway, in their UK office.

  • @DeepfriedBaby
    @DeepfriedBaby3 жыл бұрын

    4:24 This host has a bias, and even a disdain for other professions. Katie handled it wonderfully.

  • @joell6888

    @joell6888

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where was the disdain? He said there was a flip side to his thoughts.

  • @FarrukhShumail
    @FarrukhShumail6 жыл бұрын

    Is that you Jay Pharoah ?

  • @AbhinavYadav-zm7ut

    @AbhinavYadav-zm7ut

    6 жыл бұрын

    hahaha thought the same

  • @josegonzalez570
    @josegonzalez5707 жыл бұрын

    she looks super jaded

  • @subrahmanyammuramalla147
    @subrahmanyammuramalla1473 жыл бұрын

    Design is just being intentional about something; rest of it is solving the problem to see if our intention can be implemented. That much is enough. P.S. She looks hot this way!!!

  • @annapankina5501
    @annapankina55016 жыл бұрын

    Interesting conversation! But this "ad-reading" in the middle is super annoying.

  • @Upstatetrash

    @Upstatetrash

    6 жыл бұрын

    It annoys me to no end when people try and monetize their content.

  • @amannvig

    @amannvig

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Upstatetrash you guys serious?! haha

  • @JulioReguero

    @JulioReguero

    4 жыл бұрын

    In life nothing is free, nothing!

  • @kittens3029
    @kittens30295 жыл бұрын

    She doesn't seemed too thrilled to be there

  • @ironbronz4378

    @ironbronz4378

    5 жыл бұрын

    Indeed

  • @gvyyuy

    @gvyyuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahahah I thought the same

  • @JulioReguero

    @JulioReguero

    4 жыл бұрын

    You don’t seem like you like her and/or the video.

  • @DeepfriedBaby

    @DeepfriedBaby

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone has the personality that fits your expectation.

  • @historia_tego_swetra
    @historia_tego_swetra7 жыл бұрын

    Jarred (Jerry) "reading text from a huge screen" - jeez, man, it was so boring you are not in high school anymore

  • @tlacuache_mt
    @tlacuache_mt6 жыл бұрын

    No sé inglés Carito :c

  • @geovanyramirez3062
    @geovanyramirez30626 жыл бұрын

    No sé ingles maestra

  • @arashlowni3428
    @arashlowni34286 жыл бұрын

    Ya but how many does Katie get paid?

  • @ram9ajju
    @ram9ajju3 жыл бұрын

    Listening to these podcasts of great designers is really worthwhile & enlightening. The only annoying part for me is the American accent. Can't focus constantly as it gets too boring and not specific. Vocabulary from a lot of people seems to be more repetitive as well. Constant use of words 'cool', 'awesome' , 'right', '' just annoy the hell out of me as they don't seem to be used in a particular context. They are always all over the place. Also sentences like 'getting shit done' are not pleasant to listen at all. Again just my opinion. People can disagree and I am fine with that.

  • @mete3254
    @mete32545 жыл бұрын

    W A S T E O F T I M Ę

  • @davidkang5264
    @davidkang52643 жыл бұрын

    The shrill belgian bailly warm because preface retrospectively deliver between a freezing maria. verdant, regular grease

  • @jackburgoyne918
    @jackburgoyne9185 жыл бұрын

    This is so awful.

  • @csjames69
    @csjames693 жыл бұрын

    Don't like Airbnb. Would rather stay at a hotel.

  • @joselivingroom5951

    @joselivingroom5951

    3 жыл бұрын

    No one asked tho

  • @adismell
    @adismell6 жыл бұрын

    My God, this a cold fish, isn't it... so boring. Someone like that has nothing to do with the image of airbnb.

  • @Danno1850

    @Danno1850

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're a cold fish

  • @dodgycable5763

    @dodgycable5763

    6 жыл бұрын

    You don't know what you're talking about. She isn't the public face of AirBnb but one of the people behind the brand, doing the thinking.

  • @rushipatel7786

    @rushipatel7786

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dodgycable5763 Doesnt matter behind or in the front.... What Luke is saying is that , theres clearly no passion in the speaker.

  • @nataliagorelova4989

    @nataliagorelova4989

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rushipatel7786 No, you just clearly don't understand design thinking.

  • @DeepfriedBaby

    @DeepfriedBaby

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're not hearing what she is saying. She gave a lot of insight into high level strategy, carefully said. Very professional.

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