1.5 years of MOZA R5 | Mods | Review
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** Retrospective Video Notes **
1) at 03:20 I mentioned there's more choice of steering wheels with R9 and above. All V2 wheels (and there's plenty of choice) are compatible with the R5 base, albeit, FFB quality may be impacted if the wheel is heavier. Used to not be the case, all good now.
2) Jimmy Broadbent saying he dials down his FFB to 3 or 4nm of torque ...there's a general assumption it's a tad higher.
First hand opinion after a year and a half of #MozaR5
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00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Opinions So Far
00:53 - Build Quality
02:05 - FFB
03:54 - Value for Money
04:37 - Wear n Tear
05:18 - Pedals
06:05 - Wheel
06:39 - Cabling
06:58 - Software
07:44 - Summary
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** Retrospective Video Notes ** 1) at 03:20 I mentioned there's more choice of steering wheels with R9 and above. All V2 wheels (and there's plenty of choice) are compatible with the R5 base, albeit, FFB quality may be impacted if the wheel is heavier. Used to not be the case, all good now. 2) Jimmy Broadbent saying he dials down his FFB to 3 or 4nm of torque ...there's a general assumption it's a tad higher.
Great video, answered all my questions!
Moza R5 is magnificent piece of kit. Well recommended.
Fantastic long term update! These are honestly more important than day 1 review videos, especially for buyers. Whether a product is good or not really depends on if it's built well enough to last! I also ran a G27 for years and then upgraded to the R5 and ES wheel + formula mod, though I mounted it immediately to a Next Level Racing Wheel Stand 2.0. The stand allows me to use my Secret Lab chair thanks to its wheel tray which stops the chair from moving, so it's like just having the front half of a full rig without having to spend $$$ on a chair too, and it's fairly portable (Though very heavy). If you do end up pulling the trigger and upgrading to something more rigid/permanent, I'd highly recommend it. You'd also then have the option of upgrading to a full load cell pedal set down the line if you wish, which is honestly the biggest upgrade you could make from your current setup. The SR-P Lite pedals aren't much of an upgrade over the G27 pedals tbh. I paired my R5 with SimJack/SimRuito Pro Pedals (Ali Express) and they are probably the best bang for buck pedals you can get.
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Appreciated 🍻 Next Level gear has hit my radar actually and cheers for the heads up on pedal options, comment sections are great for figuring out where all my money is going next 🙃 I said to myself that pedals may be the last upgrade I look at, but if I do, I've always wanted the vibes when I hit ABS ...although those options are a bit pricey, I still might! 😇
Im ording mine right now! I CANT WAIT!!! TYSM!
The Moza R5 is the best wheelbase or bundle you can have today! The quality is amazing-I've had it for 6 months with zero problems. The SRP-Lite pedals are the only thing that isn't great, but with some modifications, you can solve that!
@tnwmlhhh
Ай бұрын
Could you explain why aren't they great? I would like to buy them in the future
@username8878
Ай бұрын
@@tnwmlhhhpeople want load cell ones but if you are not bothered too much about that then the pedals are great! I really love them how they are ngl
@fernandoalcayaga8341
Ай бұрын
@@tnwmlhhh The pedals that come with the Moza R5 Bundle are the lite version of the Moza pedals. The issue is the "soft" feeling and resistance they have (for my taste). They require modifications to function decently well. In my case, I use 3DRAP Mods for the accelerator and the brake. This translates to a better performance in terms of feel. Obviously, the bundle pedals work perfectly to enjoy sim racing, but one always wants more!
@tnwmlhhh
Ай бұрын
@@fernandoalcayaga8341 thanks for the response!
@Baesic999
25 күн бұрын
I just bought the R5 bundle and made the mistake of buying the regular SRP pedals, not the SRP ***LITE*** pedals it made me pretty frustrated when I found out there is a software lockout for the SRP clutch with the SRP lite pedals. That was a major issue for me as I don't want to spend $60 Canadian plus $49 shipping from moza since no where seems to carry the lite clutch. Biggest scam imo because the clutch connects perfectly to the srp lite pedals 😂
love the r5 one of the best beginner dd´s out there and easy to upgrade today i rdered the gt wheel mod for lmu and acc nice video good jop
@tompsmith
11 күн бұрын
Cheers, appreciated! Hope you enjoy the mod when it arrive! 🍻
the smaller hands joke earned my subscription
omg thank you so much, i have the little spring inside the wheel laying around, I didn't even know what its for until I watch this video 😭
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
😂 ...I don't actually know if it does anything useful, doesn't sound like you've missed it
great vdo mate
Just ordered mine Can’t wait 😁
@hohiss83
21 күн бұрын
Good choice :)
@patrick247two
16 күн бұрын
If you are into FH 5 give these settings a try. Forza Horizon 5 advanced settings. vibration scale .3 If this is set too high driving through water and landing big jumps will cause painful vibration through the wheel. Vibration scale and 100 Hz setting work together. FFS 1.3 CSS 0.0 WDS 1.3 MTS 1.1 FFMS 1.3 FFLS 1.3 RFS 1.5 ORFS .8 SS .4 Moza settings 300 degree wheel rotation RS 10 GFFI 90 MWS 10 WSS 0 WD 0 MOTL 100 NI 100 WF 10 SDD 0 SPOSDD 0 0Hz 100 10Hz 110 15Hz 90 25Hz 30 40Hz 30 60Hz 300 100Hz 0 Linear SLS 10 on
love my r5 i use the ks wheel with it
when you said... I wish my wife had small hands!! hahah good one and great vid with a lot of info
@tompsmith
11 күн бұрын
Cheers, appreciated! 😸
After years of using T150 I've got R5 for my 30th birthday from my wife. I still clamp my wheel to the desk so the force is more than enough, I even have to lower it down because it gets exhausting for me 😅
@tompsmith
11 күн бұрын
She's a keeper! Mine bought me a PS2 when we first started dating, she's now my wife 😁😇 I don't do massive FFB either, it's not the gym 😸
Looks like after I get a PC, I'll start saving for this one. Been on a G920 for almost 4 years and I main ACC so it's gonna be a huge upgrade
@tompsmith
16 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's a journey acquiring all the bits for most, including myself. Whatever DD you get out there you won't be disappointed after a belt driven wheel 😎
Thank you so much , gonna get a moza because of this video
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
This is nice to hear, glad it aided some of your research and suits you and your setup. Hope you find yourself a good deal from somewhere 🤑 Plenty of KZreadrs with affiliate stuff for a discount buying from certain retailers, hunt around to save a few quid!
@mcdubzluca7710
7 күн бұрын
@@tompsmith thanks man love the moza r5 ended up getting in store for a better deal
Which firmware version were u using for this review? I noticed that the FFB was a lot higher with the latest few versions of the wheelbase firmware. I've ran this base on a few endurance races but i've yet to perform better than when I was on my g27 with my custom built gt wheel (750.5g without the QR) partially because I didn't like the "brake feel kit" they sold tome with these sets of pedals
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Hey, funny you should mention firmware. I updated it a couple of evenings ago before baselining some setups. I ended up rolling back quite a long way to 1.2.0.84. The later versions offset my wheel by 3 degree for some weird reason that really bugged me (like having the tracking in your car off), and some other stuff. I need to spend an evening fully testing it with ACC and documenting my findings. It annoyed me so much it'll be my next video to vent probably 😁🤬
Hello just want to put this out here as I recently upgraded to Moza R12. Budget-ish for people who want a bit more power Wheel: Moza R12 with ES wheel or R9( don't own one but still good enough but heard there's a bit of overheating issue so maybe run 70-80% FFB) Pedals: G27 pedals with TrueBrake v2.2 mod Shifter: SHH Thorn shifter (have both Sequential and H pattern) *Not really budget when I think about it but I think this is the cheapest way you can really go to a mid-end setup
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Just checked out some TrueBrake v2.2 mod vids on KZread, not seen that one before, looks good. A lot of people seem to have footwear for braking, but I like playing in my socks, so probably influences my light pedal preference 😁 Good mix of kit though
@JiriNovakCZ
Ай бұрын
Just moving away from G920 pedals + TrueBrake mod after 6 months (hardest spring). I'm upgrading to Simsonn pedals - a budget option but should be good according to review. The Logitech pedals have too much play which is noisy. The springs got softer after a while, there is basically no travel at the end where you actually brake. I can do 2:18.0 at Spa or 1:48.0 at Monza in ACC with them, so the modded pedals are not bad. But honestly, if I wouldn't buy Logitech set again. Now, when MOZA R3 is out, there is no room for Logitech IMHO. Or spare for a more advanced equipment if not limited to consoles.
Hopefully Corsair will stabilize Fanatec, I still have 15 months warranty on my CSL wheel.
What are you pithouse settings for rennsport? The ffb update ruined everything for me and I cant find decent settings online. Great review by the way!
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Hey! If you're on the RENNSPORT Discord server, you should be in the Closed Beta invite only group. I can look at posting my latest settings to the 'recommended-settings' thread this evening if I can tweak them to a more satisfactory point. I feel like what I'm using is a bit make do, but worried the next update will blitz it again 😬
@zaidjkhan1
Ай бұрын
@@tompsmith alright thank you so much!
Take that Jimmer clip with 2 forklifts of salt. ANyone watching him knows he runs his bases at way more than 3-4NM 🤣. Universally youtubers agree 10-14NM is the best place to be. I personally dont wanna spend 1000 euros on my setup so im eyeing down R9 + KS (what a beauty of a wheel !)
@cooldante11
Ай бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure the 3-4nm was in context of rally only
@snippidippi
Ай бұрын
Think dave cam is on 6nm?! And jimmy has said that sweetspot is around 6-9nm but real cars has around 10-12nm. Not 100% sure about the numbers as it was a while I saw he's clips
@filipivan5125
Ай бұрын
@@snippidippi I went through a lot of videos in the past 2 months of wanting a DD so bad :D but one of the guys has to have low FFB becuase of his past injury/arm issue, it might be Dave tho. Im surprised about Jimmer, used to watch him a lot before he moved to his own house and got moza sponsor him.
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
ahhhh, I can't tell you how long I thought about challenging this as it sounded dodge as soon as he said it. From watching these guys stream I'd have guessed between 5 and 10 somewhere certainly. I gave up thinking about it in the end and just rolled with it, but knew it'd be picked up on, and rightly so 😁 Every other piece of kit I've had a go on has been at least 6, and my hands were hurting after the last one which nearer double figures I imagine (ACC rigs at Insomnia event at the NEC).
@Fuzkin
Ай бұрын
Driving at 12nm fanatec dd and i do feel like i need more. Also games like acc you need high nm base to avoid clipping. Going from 12nm to even 9 feels like a toy
I have the Mozza R5 wheelbase and pedal kit and it is amazing. Not really any videos on how to set up the Mozza pit house software and how to fine-tune the wheel settings for certain games like NASCAR heat five most videos are geared toward formula 1 iRacing, etc which is a debbie downer
@tompsmith
16 күн бұрын
Used to love NASCAR racing on my first PC! There are a bunch of presets for different games included in the Pithouse software. I've sometimes paused games and switched the profiles to test them all out. Quickly narrows down a decent baseline to work with I found.
You might want to test the Alien Mods loadcell kit for the SRP Lites
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Caught a review of those today by Michael Smith weirdly enough, they look cool 👍🍻
@alexlupascu3605
Ай бұрын
@@tompsmith there's a contact form on the website. If you're interested and would like to test it I can send you one too 🍻
8 Nm dialed to 6Nm is the sweet spot for me if yu re racing 1-2 times per week
May i ask if the performance upgrade for the brake pedal fits on the throttle?
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Yah, all the pedals are the same essentially, so it'll fit any of them.
I just ordered the R5 bundle from their website. I live in the US and selected domestic shipping because I assumed it was shipped from within the US. Is this not the case?
@tompsmith
7 күн бұрын
It's figured out when you pop in your address. If it's an unreasonable delivery price, probably coming from their HQ. They may have distribution centres in the US these days due to demand, never know 🧐🧐
@BipolarBLKSheep
6 күн бұрын
@@tompsmith I cancelled the order and reordered from sim motion.
Does the R5 bundle come with a quick release so that I could put on the KS racing wheel?
@tompsmith
2 күн бұрын
@skyline14212 Yup, V2 or version 2 connection, kind of a T shape to the connector inside. If you check out the comments on the MOZA site for the wheel, others have bought the KS wheel for the R5 base, enjoy! 😎 mozaracing.com/product/ks-steering-wheel
@tompsmith
2 күн бұрын
@skyline14212 Yup, V2 or version 2 connection, kind of a T shape to the connector inside. If you check out the comments on the MOZA site for the wheel, others have bought the KS wheel for the R5 base, enjoy! 😎 mozaracing.com/product/ks-steering-wheel
@skyline14212
2 күн бұрын
@@tompsmith Thank You Man!
I don't get the fanatec issues tbh. I ordered a couple days ago and they started processing my order for delivery today already. The value of the cls DD with a powersupply brick from aliexpress for 35 euro to get 8NM is not beatable by moza.
@kachow6685
22 күн бұрын
watch Ermz video from about a month ago he covers the fanatec situation.
@tompsmith
16 күн бұрын
Would have got the same if they'd been in stock and likely not been disappointed! Dodgy order fulfilment and the company going through financial and leadership change. Probably won't go under, but when you're spending that amount of dosh, the noises of uncertainty are a definite purchasing factor. Glad it's worked out well for you though, plenty of amazing DDs these days 🍻
Do you guys think that a srp lite with brake mod is better or worse than a TCLM?
@filipivan5125
Ай бұрын
IMO if u have TLCMs u dont wanna go for a entry-level bundled pedals.... (I own TLCM) Make significant upgrades, dont tip toe 10 times to get where u need to be. Upgrade once a year or two years instead of 3 times per year AKA "buy once cry once". U should aim for Simagic P1000 price range...
6:32 LOL
I just wish they had one for Xbox. Do you know if the r5 works with a MacBook? If I get a 2019 i9 MacBook Pro, I can run windows and get VR on AC. Just need to know if my g920 will work with it.
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Not sure the latest on compatibility, but the Pithouse software does have an ios beta install available, so I guess it's not too far off officially... mozaracing.com/downloads As for getting it to work with console, this guy has found an adapter that works for both PS and Xbox kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3d7062SaN3Tlto.html Good luck!
@ianconklinmusic
Ай бұрын
@@tompsmith thanks man!
@Teddiebear4
Ай бұрын
they are about to relsease there moza r3 which is exbox compatable and it has 3.9 nm it comes out in decemeber if im not mistaken and is cheaper then the r5
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
@@Teddiebear4 yeah absolutely. I've just had a quick search and some R3s start shipping out from this week apparently abruzzi-official.co.uk/shop/moza-bundles/moza-r3-bundle/ I've seen conflicting release dates, not cross referenced for accuracy. With after market adapters and essentially a watered down R5 base for the R3 but everything else looking the same, you'd think it was just a software update required huh. Either way, wish these were around when I first started gaming, amazing kit these days.
@ianconklinmusic
Ай бұрын
@@Teddiebear4 is it actually coming out finally? I’ve looked at it forever and it has been announced since since august of 2023. Where did you see that it is coming out in December?
why are the brake & gas pedal so further apart?
@tompsmith
27 күн бұрын
Comfort for right and left foot on each pedal, but you can move them around to any config you fancy
I get that squeaky noises from my throttle, how do you fix it?
@tompsmith
29 күн бұрын
just some white grease at the joint did the trick for me
im pretty sure the R5 can take almost every wheel they offer now. it can take the v2 versions of the ones it couldnt before
@tompsmith
18 күн бұрын
YES! Not the case when I got it so a completely outdated comment. I'll get a comment up on screen at the point I mention "more choice of wheels", doh!!
so how loud would you say the shifter noise is?
@zepp9852
Ай бұрын
I have the bundle for a week now, shifters are quite loud id say but you dont get to hear them when wearing a headset. the only problem there is in cases where you have other people sleeping in the next room.
@tompsmith
29 күн бұрын
Yah, not too much louder than clicking a pen, just at a higher pitch is the only way I can think of describing it 🔊
好用嗎? moza r5 🧐🧐🧐
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
"easy to use?" is the translation I have. Any aspect in particular? 🧐 😁
Had to send my R5 back as it was faulty. They now don’t sell it on its own so I have to decide whether to go and get the more expensive R9 or 12. Very disappointed
@filipivan5125
Ай бұрын
R9 = 15bit encoder , same as R5 sadly R12 I cannot find any encoder info anywhere but if it did have higher bit encoder it would be a great buy as with R9 u will be clipping the FFB once u start wanting to run the base at 100% FFB :/. I would not buy r5 as thats entry level for those who sim race for 6-12months and then quit. Anyone else will want more power from their wheel.
@tompsmith
Ай бұрын
Did you send it back to MOZA or a retailer? Mad they can't replace it like-for-like ...but hopefully it's not a massive amount more for a wheel base upgrade 😬😬😬😬
What game is he playing?
@tompsmith
16 күн бұрын
Hey! ACC at the start, RENNSPORT later in the vid via my closed beta invite I received not too long ago. They're dishing out about 20k of them every week/month now (can't remember which), so if you're interested you can sign up and hopefully get an invite at some point.
The wife's hands comment took me out!
@tompsmith
28 күн бұрын
my assumption is she'll never see this 😂
@rossfindlay24
12 күн бұрын
ahaaaa me Too 🤣🤣
R5 is maybe one of the worst on the market .Dont buy it . overheat in like 30 min max and you lose FFB
@tompsmith
28 күн бұрын
If you can drop me your FFB settings being used and I can replicate it, that'd be interesting. Haven't personally noticed a drop in FFB when hot and a prolonged stint.
@suspektgaming7333
28 күн бұрын
@@tompsmith can we do it privet ?
@tompsmith
25 күн бұрын
@@suspektgaming7333 sure, you can find me on Discord under Smithy81
@suspektgaming7333
25 күн бұрын
@@tompsmith send my name is Lil Sus
@NickTrouble
23 күн бұрын
I owned the R5, R12, and R21 from moza. I am able to overheat all of them if I use ‘bad’ settings. Or some games just produce more heat, F1 game series being a good example. For the R5 I set force feedback to 80% and set a desk fan pointing at the base and it fixed most overheat issues. The r12 and r21 at 100% is a lot for most people, I ran my r12 with overheating only happening in the most extreme driving. I run the r21 at 80% and haven’t overheated it (but definitely can at 100%) In conclusion, moza gives access to a lot of settings and incorrectly using them will make overheating be an issue, but moza does produce more heat than other manufacturers and unfortunately thermal dissipation is not their strong suit