I should add that Moza did send me this wheel for free, which I should have mentioned in the video, but it has not affected my review. I already have DD wheels from Fanatec, Thrustmaster and Logitech in my possession which have all been gifted to me - you can see them in the background of my footage or the reviews on this channel. I have chosen to use the Moza because it's the one I prefer. You'll also note there's no affiliate links here because their shipping prices are too much to make an affiliate programme work, so I don't stand to gain anything if you choose Moza over anyone else. I should have disclosed that it was gifted to me, but it slipped my mind because at no point did that remotely affect my opinion on the wheel and never would - I will always disclose if I have been paid for something or if a gift is influencing my video in some way

@Eskoxo

25 күн бұрын

"heres Why i Replaced My fanatec Wheel with Moza"... lol lets be honest here you would not have replaced anything only cuz u got it for free both of them are good enough to not replace and waste money for some very minor perceived difference.

@vandrayketv1316

25 күн бұрын

You did mention it

@simplysuperman6988

25 күн бұрын

Classic scummy youtuber behaviour, getting over €1,000 worth of equipment for free and saying it's an unbiased review and intentionally not choosing the paid promotion option when making the video.

@codyzempel5506

23 күн бұрын

Yeah no for sure ha I've been a loyal Gillonator for awhile and watching you upgrade throughout has been great, seems like everyone left Fanatec and quite honestly with the "issues" surrounding them now makes me as a consumer nervous for the future but good thing is that as far as DD's go the market has never been better! How did you like the Thrustmaster I haven't got my hands on that one yet that's one I haven't, Asetek was brilliant I think honestly they are up there with simucube which is saying ALOT but also comes with the price tag. Id be keen to try the R9-12 V2 because it seems like your happy with it and so are plenty of others and they have great rims which Fanatec still hasn't come out with an F1 style rim with a screen..Keep up the brilliant work man, I was really really rooting for you in creator series hahah hoping for Ben and Skyz to bin it, still happy for Ben but also congrats on the win!!

@awakeandwatching953

22 күн бұрын

would ypu conider the logi pro as yer main wheel if it had a gt/f1 style wheel? love mine but the wheel is ideal for me as i drive a broard range of cars but i would like a gt wheel in the future

Moza and Simagic are doing wonders in the market. Great price and FFB, a standard Quick release for more wheel support, and their wheels are awesome. being able to just slap an NRG QR on any old wheel and use t for my sim is awesome. And I'm shocked Fanatec STILL doesn't have a wheel with a display.

@filipivan5125

25 күн бұрын

Fanatec got too comfortable being a go to brand for entry or mid tier. And now they had to sell company to Corsair.

@davidromero2252

21 күн бұрын

I feel Asetek is better than Moza

@flyingphoenix113

16 күн бұрын

​@@davidromero2252, completely different target markets and price points. Moza's most competitive products are their entry-level products. Asetek's best are their high-end offerings. Moza's high products aren't competitive with Asetek's, and Asetek's entry level products struggle on the value front compared to Moza.

The fanatec killer was IN THE HOUSE THE WHOLE TIME

USB C has it's place and it is nowhere near sim racing. You need a chunky female connector that has solid solder footing, which USB C can't offer. There's a reason why the older style connectors have stood the test of time. HDMI monitors are good, but guess which cables and connectors broke first at college after several classes of abuse between HDMI & the blue screw type ones.

@Burntoilcoffee

24 күн бұрын

I was going to make the exact same point

i started with a thrustmaster spider that i used for a long time, it finally came to a point where i started playing sims because i want to understand motorsports better and i also want to learn how to drift, that i understood i needed a better wheel because that thrustmaster spider was not cutting it. After a lot of research I bought the moza r12 and never looked back, it was an eye opener.

I bought a Moza R12 with the RSV2 rim and I love it. I am still trying to decide if I want to go all the way for an FSR rim or just get the GS/KS rims instead currently. I came from a thrustmaster t300 with an SF-1000 rim and was planning on buying the R9 until after shopping around the R12 ended up being cheaper for me in my region.

If you are in the UK there are plenty of places that stock them on their behalf. EG GT Omega. In the bag there is normally some foam pads for the paddle shifter to reduce the noise down. they are normally out the way so easy to miss as just packaging. there is an FSR wheel that has a screen in it or for the GS you can buy a screen to attach to the top of the base as a mod from Moza. the telemetry also is for the rev light on the wheel.

Simagic P1000 pedals do also both. Loadcell and pedal position. You can switch it in the software directly

@AlexGillon

23 күн бұрын

Nice!

Moza is great! I had the CSL DD and I replaced it with the R5. After a few months I replaced the Moza wheelbase with Asetek Invicta. I still have the Moza setup for 2 player races if a friend comes over :)

3:13 Simagic P1000 pedals are able to detect load and position, and are relatively inexpensive for their quality. Although they are more premium than the moza pedals.

Great video mate, btw there is hands off protection on their software you need to turn on it ;)

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

Yea I tried turning it on but it didn't seem to work

@markburgess4148

26 күн бұрын

@@AlexGillon make sure the correct wheel is set in your preset, if you have the RS or KS set instead of the GS you are using, or vice versa then it wont work as the frequencies are different. (from the Moza support page)

@Return_of_Ep1cc

24 күн бұрын

@AlexGillon alex could u check my comment rq, it's important

While not in the same price range, I had some similar experiences that you did when swapping out my CLS DD 8Nm with an Asetek Invicta base and wheel. There is just so much detail that is missing with the CSL DD that I can now feel so clearly on the Asetek base. Not sure how much of that is due to the much better Asetek quick release, but I suspect it is a mix of both base and QR.

You can put the base ffb curve in pit house to x:5 and y:3. that removed that oscillation for me. you can play around with it

My gs wheel was perfect with the r9 base but when I upgraded to the r16 base the wheel started to make noises every time I turn. The gs wheel is not make to take more than 12nm

i bought the pedals, im playing at my desk tho, any tips on how to not make them loose?

I am currently using a Thrustmaster T300RS with T3PA-Pro pedals that I bought used 2-1/2 years ago. I don't get as much free time to use it as I wish I could, so upgrading to a DD base is something that may only happen in the future. But, Moza is the front runner if I do. The only thing is I.would like to try out a DD wheel and load cell pedal first to see if it is something I'd even want, but not too sure I can find anywhere near me that would have a display to test out.

Hi Alex can you make a video on the best setting for f1 on the moza pit house please

On the base FFB curve, on the bottom left point, put it almost flat. That will remove the oscillation

I personally have the Moza R12 and have been using it for 6 months and the thing is just perfect

Am I still able to reprogram all the buttons on the wheel for f1 23?

I did the same. I switched from Fanatec GT DD Pro 8nm to the Moza R21 with the FSR wheel

did u try simagic alpha mini? Nice video btw.

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

Not yet! I'm kinda starting with the more mainstream ones and working my way down 😂

Actually there is a setting called hands protection mode where you can toggle on or off

So excited! Planning to upgrade from Logitech G29. Definitely will get brake upgrate kit tok.

You know i had the r9, but my unit came with overheating issues when playing ACC. Then i got the Thrustmaster t818, but it was a disappointment. I decided to go with Moza again, but this time i paid premium money for the r16 v2 same gs wheel v2 and srp pedals so far no issues, but more important performance excellent and just playing with %60 of FFB

Because you sponsored? Edit: Guess before watching the video

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

This video is not sponsored, but they did give me the wheel, but that has not influenced my review, although I admit I should have stated that in the video

@KevKlopper

26 күн бұрын

@@AlexGillonif you are in the UK you are also legally required to state that you are sponsored when getting stuff for free I think, but I am not a lawyer

@Fin1878F1

25 күн бұрын

@@KevKlopper Mate don't try and get Alex done for a lawsuit

@MaxK934

25 күн бұрын

@@KevKlopperyeah chill out nobody actually gives two shits

@BwoahGT

24 күн бұрын

​@@KevKlopperRelax it KZread

I also have the middle finger problem with my Thrustmaster sf1000 wheel. I have had the wheel for 2 years and still have the problem.

Lovely kit. I have a G PRO DD and wish Logitech would have software to match Moza

Dd+ still blows This away.

@robertcarr4172

25 күн бұрын

Yes its in another league.

@dauntae24

22 күн бұрын

Wow. Solid analysis there Professor Scientist. 😂

@davidcupra4913

22 күн бұрын

@@dauntae24lots of experience

@dauntae24

22 күн бұрын

@@davidcupra4913 seems like basic math to me.

Im replacing my dd+ with simagic ultimate. Just in case I want that protection of having a unit with a brand I dont need to worry about supporting software etc. I love love my dd+ its almost as good as the ultimate. Its def as good as the alpha in power but the one thing about the dd+ is it always had a little more dampening or drag in the wheel like most fanatec products. The simagic has probably the smoothest and fastest shaft meaning almost no friction even when off. Its just a looser feel which makes rhe ffb feel more active when its on. And no im not talking about weight. Thats there a ton lol. Its just fanatec has this always on dampening no matter what you do but it doesnt actually hurt detial as weird as that is.

Selling any of your old stuff?

Are you playing f1 on steam?

usb B is for those with motion rigs that want a more secure and durable connection

I think of buying a moza with my first salary, so this video has been really helpfull. Thank you brother! ME WANT MORE

Never heard of the rattle before

Imagine being able to test these things before you fork out thousands. Lucky man!

The default button mappings are terrible on F1 23. I get around this by deleting the configuration xml file (which sometimes gets replaced when the game is patched) and then I can do my own mapping.

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

Good workaround!!

My r9 v2 made the same noise got a new one and it never came back

The oscillation can be removed .. Well for ACC😮 anyway I don't play F1. For ACC I would suggest starting with the default "ACC Official" setup and go from there. As for the rattle.. check to make sure the base has not come loose from your rig. I had an irritating rattle sound which turned out to be the nuts that hold the base loosening a little bit. Lastly if anyone in the UK wants Monza gear I highly recommend Overclockers UK. I had a minor issue with my first Monza Bundle so I returned it, repurchased and was without a wheel for less than 19 hours. Great vid 👍.. I luv the QR too.

In moza pithouse there is hand off protection

Its the exactly same the FFB and that 1nm on moza isnt quite an upgrade. The obly downsides of fanatec is the QR1 (there is QR2 really good) and the situation they are in. But fanatec is cheaper and pretty much identical.

I wont lie the moza has a nice raw snappy feel to it compsred to fanatec. But fanatec feels smoother and more polished. It depends on which feel you want more. Im one who wants smooth and raw like simagic. But moza would probsbly he my choice now over fanatec if I knew then what I know now. But the dd+ is a different story tjings a monster. I still main my 23nm simagic ultimate though I prefer its rounded smoother feel. Also ive proven many times that wheels do make you faster. Im faster on simagic over fanatec csl dd the dd+ gets close but no i prefer the feel of simagic with loading and unloading feel when cornering and i can push past the grip of needed thats the issue with fanatec. The center forces are almost to tight so when you pushed past ypu would just lose control with moza, simagic and simucube you can turn in that much more almost tbrough the forces without losing control. Its why ive found i much prefer a more loose less dampened feel even when more power. I eant to be able to push through the forces not the forced push through me. Fanatecs issue is they use built in dampening and that limits the feel that im talking about. But the reason why you were faster here was the pedals worked with you and the base. It wasnt just the base. Also something to consider you made that pb 2 days beofre this it could have been you were just hitting the point of getting better who knows. You were also mobing from a 5 to 8nm base to a 9nm base thats really over 10nm so you are getting that much more dynamic range for it telling you whats going on. That probably is it.

I had that noise, it wasn't the quick release, it was a grub type screw on the wheel base side that tightens up the shaft.

@AlexGillon

25 күн бұрын

I'll try it, thank you!

honestly ive tried both and i just like fanatec better but who knows its just personal preference

GT Omega are UK resellers of Moza racing stuff for anyone that's interested.

There’s a hands off protection setting

Rubber pads were included in my gs box

Fanatec killer 👀

Simagic would be a great alternative

The moza base gets hot while the fanatec doesn’t.

@vengeancesimracing

25 күн бұрын

Lies my dd1 gets hot af

@khaledhassan6341

25 күн бұрын

@@vengeancesimracing we are comparing it to the csl dd aren’t we?

The best choice in many ways (F1, WRC rally) = Moza, Fanatec or Thrustmaster?.

Can you share your pithouse and in game settings for the F1 game please? 😇😇😇

You are legally bound to mention this is sponsored, through a gift from the company. Get it sorted please

@vandrayketv1316

25 күн бұрын

He did say it was sent to him in the video

Pedals don't come with it though it's just wheel base and wheel you have to get pedals separately

I found moza to have this weird mechanical feel you couldn't dial out without losing feeling, like it's not nice adding dampening dialing it out because then you lose feeling so not a fan at all compared to Fanatec which just feels clean and smooth..I get price points it's ok but I'd rather still stay Fanatec and I tried both R9 and 12 not impressed unfortunately

@AlexGillon

23 күн бұрын

That's interesting, was it the R9 V2 that you tried? I found no negatives with the FFB compared to Fanatec, but I have only tried this one wheelbase

@codyzempel5506

23 күн бұрын

@@AlexGillon Alex it wasn't, the R9 I tried was right when they came out with it about 3 months later I got to test it and just found this odd mechanical feel that you couldn't dial out without completely dulling the sensation. The R12 I found wasn't AS bad it felt alot more refined even out of the box just made a few tweaks and it felt good. I do own a DD+ a long with F1 podium but I'd take the DD+ all day.

@AlexGillon

23 күн бұрын

@@codyzempel5506 Yea that's interesting, I wonder if the V2 resolved a lot of your issues. Either way it's just opinions, so maybe you prefer Fanatec, but I did for a long time until I tried this

Alex, no joke, can I buy your old loadcell pedal? I live in england

@Elwon20

24 күн бұрын

Bought some used Clubsport v3 pedals with brake performance kit unexpectedly thrown in for free from CEX recently for £290... they're awesome and I believe I got a bit of a bargain.

I bought the R5 bundle with the spring kit and just got the ES formula wheel mod. I would consider them like toyota. Very solid, does what it is supposed to do well but it is not the flashiest design. Granted it is the R5. The ES formula wheel mod is SOLID. I recommend them hightly.

I don't get how people keep saying this is an alternative to Fanatec, taking out the postage and getting it from a UK supply, The R9 base is £410, The cheapest GT wheel the KS is about £260, That's £670, If your happy with an after market power supply you can get the McLaren RTR bundle for £500 all in, For about 20-30 quid on top of that 670 you could also make up a Hub V2 wheel. Yes you may not have a metal QR1(And I have never had any trouble with QR1), But your talking 8nm, The best starter GT wheel on the market and a set of pedals for 500 quid, Even if you source the same set of cheap Fanatec pedals for the Moza setup it takes it up to about £740. And let's not forget, both are classed as starter bases.

You really should change the color of the buttons, when they're all the same color it isn't as unique! :)

You seriously don't think anybody will have a USB A-B cable lying around? I've got god knows how many. Did you only start with tech in the last three to four years?

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

I have actually got one or two lol, but most people I think won't have one, but maybe I've underestimated the type of people that will buy a racing wheel 😂

care to share your settings, i have the same base and rim and dont feel connected to the car in F1 at all, other games are perfect and ive used a million different settings in F1

Always love hearing fanatec users complain about shifters sounding like shifters lol

But what if you only have a ps5

"Here's Why I Replaced My Fanatec Wheel With Moza" Because you received it for free. This video should be deleted or edited to say as such. And you need to put that in the description not a pinned comment. This could be breaking the law as is

Only reason Im still rolling fanatec its cuz of GT7…

wow bro beat a 1:03.6

Fanatec got complacent with the initial lack of competition and has just failed to inovate on their product. The price premium for console compatibility is something that could likely push away most of their target audience since if someone is buying a $500+ DD wheelbase they surely aren't going to play only Forza and GranTurismo. Those shelling out that kind of money are most likely chasing the most hardcore sim titles and are on PC already. And on top of that the struggles that the company is facing right now are just a cherry on top of an already failing business.

Is it because they game it to you? Is that it? Common Alex. I’m sure it’s awesome but you didn’t buy it.

@mrbungle3310

26 күн бұрын

i mean jarno doesn't use fanatec also there are just better options out there,fanatec is just great at advertising

@AlexGillon

26 күн бұрын

They did give it to me, but I've also got DD wheels from Fanatec, Thrustmaster and Logitech that I could use, but I've always preferred the Fanatec, until now

@dmurphy1578

26 күн бұрын

@@AlexGillon no hate. We all know the system.

@TheDenseMan

26 күн бұрын

⁠@@mrbungle3310Jarno uses Fanatec and I believe Fanatec have really well built products. Just unfortunate their support system and delivery isn’t so good

@vandrayketv1316

25 күн бұрын

He did say it was sent to him in the video

Tbh the jiggling sound is maybe from u shaking the shit of out it at the start of video perhaps don’t do this for future reference 🤣🤣🤣

120 euro on cyprus

Does it steal your info like all other CHN companies?

The pedals are bit..meh, but I have the DC simracing pedals , value/ price best

It's funny to me how people are totally forgetting that Moza literally exist as a cheaper Fanatec alternative, it's literally the company foundation :) That's not a bad thing, but please don't compare it to Fanatec, it will never be Fanatec.

@AlexGillon

25 күн бұрын

Hopefully not 😬

It could be ps5 compatible 😢

Sticking with Fanatec after seeing this video

@HxR-eSports

18 күн бұрын

Sticking with Moza after watching fanatec nearly go bankrupt.

fancy giving me the fanatec😂

got it for free , should have said at beginning of video, of course you like it, lets be honest, no integrity in this review or others like it

Simagic Alpha mini is far far better. Only Slightly more expensive. Power wise it is 13.5nm this moza is weak as hell

I'm perfectly happy with my Fanatec GT DD Pro and see no reason in this video why I or anyone else should change to Moza if they already have an equivalent Fanatec setup. 99.99% of people who already have a Fanatec setup won't be gifted a complete Moza setup for free so will continue to stick with Fanatec as their equipment works just as well as Moza. Even if someone gave me a full Moza setup now I'd sell it on as I see no benefit in changing from what I have. I get that Moza is your choice and preference due to liking the quick release, the unique pedal functionality, and the software, but Fanatecs QR systems work fine, their load cell pedals already work perfectly, and their software (when using Fanalab) gets you manufacturer recommended settings within seconds and once configured never needs touching again. If you'd presented this video taking an approach of "Moza offers a competitive package to Fanatecs" then that would've been so much better and actually useful compared to "I've changed to Moza because I personally like it despite it not being significantly different and because it was free" which circumstantially applies to absolutely no-one but other simracing KZreadrs. You may've had good intent to show off Moza in a good light but all you've mainly done is made a pointless and irrelevant video that demonstrates KZreadr status exploitation.

Sorry friend, it's not about moze. My time in Austria is much better than yours, although I have G29. The steering wheel matters when you are looking for these limits, but you are so far from them that it is hardly a matter of the base. I don't know, maybe this is a promotional video. And if not, then say, look, I improved my best time after a couple of laps just by sitting behind this wheel, it’s kind of funny or something.

MOZA is putrid… Asetek, Simucube or nothing You have tested literally the worst wheel bases on the market..

@AlexGillon

24 күн бұрын

Those wheels are at a much higher starting point than what most people can afford, I prefer to test brands / products that more people can afford

@jeeezyf1

24 күн бұрын

@@AlexGillon dude.. I’m a fan of your work, but be real. If the great brands gave you free shit you wouldn’t be saying that. Everyone knows that. Like I said I love your content and thinking back your probably responsible for me really loving watching f1 on streams etc But there are people you will really listen to you, MOZA knows this also. But saying how incredible a 9nm MOZA is when quite literally it’s probably the worst DD drive money can but, they are the same price as sim magic and you have padded cells tattooed on your forehead if you would buy MOZA over them. Asetek and Simucube wipe the floor, then sim magic then save until you have the budget.