I had bought this around two years ago. and never looked back it's fantastic and tbs are great at communicating with there customers. they have had a lot of updates and never had a bad experience with it at all

Your videos are hands down THE best on this hobby!

Thanks for the review of this product! A long range R/C link explains a good bit about what happened recently... ...I was testing all the features of a brand new DJI craft, and I flipped the RTH switch to test that function. The last time I saw the dang thing, it was headed back to CHINA!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+R L :D

@XzadforSpacefox

6 жыл бұрын

It's education, not shaming that makes better pilots.

@sherwoodp2738

6 жыл бұрын

Xzadfor Spacefox g(non. Nnnnnjm

Men you now so much..Thank you.The pain is in this country be so much wet (rain all the time UK)..

Those with problems on windows 10 mission planner connection, but ok with smartphone and tablet read the following : After pairing the Bluetooth successfully, in the W10 BT screen, click "more Bluetooth options" then "COM ports". Delete both incoming and outgoing about the crossfire then click add and select outgoing on the Crossfire then OK. You will end up with a single com port for it, open mission planner and connect, should work. I will make a video tomorrow

Yay! A long range flight system that does'nt take an engineer, a professor and a flight mechanic to figure out !!

Just what I was looking for

Nice serie. Looking forward for the next one.

Ahhhh Geeezus!~ Minute 5:20 Rejoining the RC world after 55 years I've been reading and watching everything I can get my hands about FPV and finally the light bulb goes off! It's an incandescent light bulb mind you...not an LED.

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

Glad my videos are helping it all make sense! :D If you can't find something on the channel that you need, let me know!

@Navigator777777

Жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 As a matter of fact....Yes!~ Thank you! As a newbie in the RC/FPV world, sensory overload is an understatement! It's exciting and overwhelming. I had a 3 ch crystal plane with flags that cost more in the 60's money than my current plane and txmitter. I've a FMS Fox 3000 at FEDEX facility in Troutdale, Oregon due to arrive at my home in North Central Washington Tuesday. I have a Spektrum D-8 G2. It seems Spektrum was once a leader in FPV but sis no longer or perhaps changed names???? I'm unclear if my Spektrum D8 D8 can do FPV/Crossfire. If not, can you call out what gear will get me up and running? Thanks and Cheers from Tonasket, WA

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

Spektrum isn't great for working with non-Spektrum kit. FrSky used to be the goto for things like Crossfire, but now it's vendors like RadioMaster and the ExpressLRS rsdio system for modern hobby... best of luck

@Navigator777777

Жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 That's what I needed...just a push andto be told which way North is! ;-)

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

INAV for Beginners 2023 (Baby AR Wing PRO and INAV 6.1.1): kzread.info/head/PLYsWjANuAm4q-i0YGMJGLOfaYIuNIYPfF is a build using modern technology and choices... Best of luck

Great video, I am now looking to get into crossfire and this was extremely useful, thanks! - Alex

I look forward to the rest of the series! Thanks!

@terryjefferson747

3 жыл бұрын

InstaBlaster.

Yes please describe proper use of the spectrum analyzer. How to use the tool to solve problems. Also a general understanding of how to read the signal to noise ratio. The error and downlink would also be nice to have included in a segment. Thanks for the great work!!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Will do! :D

thanks

Very good info. Thank you.

BTW with betaflight F3 FC you can wire CRSF RX to UART2 which has the RX pin physically/electrically connected to the SBUS pin. this frees up uart 1 and 3 for other peripherals,

I will pay so much attention to a real expert like you Painless360, this is now in the hands of a expert, in the rc community.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+maxun1 thank you for the comment, ill sure try to make this system a little easier to get the most from.. happy flying!

Great video! Unfortunately, for some reason my TX module does not turn on when it is installed in the remote control, the two cables are connected to the module and the external mode is set to CRSF. Can you please tell me why? If I update it on the PC then it works

First: you make great video instructions! Seeing that TBS makes all the products for a whole package, and I haven't found videos for their latest combo, I would love to see you make a video about Vendetta II with Crossfire Micro, Immortal T and the Tango. I think it's the ultimate premium RTF package out there

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Bing80 thank you. If I can get my hands on the antenna and Vendetta II - I will! :)

My like made it 1000 ...

Hi +Painless360, I always love the high quality of your videos, great work! I have a small addition to your Crossfire antenna recommendation: to actually make full use of the diversity receiver, the two antennas need to be positioned 90 degrees apart, one preferably lying flat as does the TX antenna. This way the theoretical signal loss is only sin(PI/4), which is about 0.7 times the full signal strength. If you have the two antennas placed like you have in the video, not only is the signal strength low to start with (since you have them vertical and the radio antenna horizontal), but will a rotation of your aircraft not benefit of the dual antenna setup. Anyways, looking forward to part 2!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I am planning to spend more time on it in the next video as 90 degree gives better signal quality as you move the craft but lessens max range. Thanks again for the post! :D

@JeroenBrosens

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting to know what makes you think that. This doesn't extend your range - that's affected by antenna gain (and to a certain degree transmitting power). Two identical parallel antennas perform precisely the same as one: if you bank your aircraft *both* signals drop, whereas in a properly placed 90 degree setup, there will always be one antenna that is oriented towards your transmitter more optimal than the other. You will also get a noticable improvement in range when you use a directional antenna on your transmitter, but then you'll have to keep facing your aircraft. Do you fly long range FPV? The Crossfire is a very good system to do so, but then longe range video also becomes a thing (diversity the other way round!). Keep it up!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Jeroen Brosens as you say it’s about antenna alignment..

FrSky R9 Mini 4/16CH 900MHz Long Range Telemetry Receiver with Redundancy Function S.Port Enabled on pre-order now banggood Ready Made RC Elsa got the transmitter off eBay with the new style antenna for $40 bucks full Telemetry which means Lewis scripts VTX control pretty much everything

Please show how the Spectrum analyzer works

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Great idea, let me add that to the list, there seems to be confusion about how all of the new graphs work.. Thanks fro the post..

The PUNCH POWER of the signal, being able to stay connected thru vegetation for me is the best advantage these LOWER Frequencies afford. Like BLACKSHEEP have one of their 500 mm Discovery Frames, cheers !

A demonstration of the Find Mode will be useful

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Gon Qu got it. Thanks..

Just upgraded to a x9d from a devo 7e. Switch to Taranis bc I want to run TBS crossfire long range system.

thanks!!!!!!

I just bought this used. Circular status logo on Tx never lights up despite binding, tho no stick response. OLED seems fine although I can not enter any Output Mapping menu and wonder if this is why no stick response. Anyone encounter this? Concerned I bought a dud. Thanks

Hi very helpful video for me to understand TBS-Crossfire with Taranis, but I have a doubt that which are the sensors available with the TBS Crossfire Tx Rx system as in same class FrSky do have, like Lipo Cell Sensor, Current Sensor, Temperature Sensor, SP2UART etc. Thanks in advance

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

Please watch the series and my builds with flight controllers and Crossfire so see exactly what you can do with it.. Best of luck!

thank you for giving us all these useful infos. If I improve the radio signal with the tbs crossfire then I also need improvement on the video signal. Could you also tell us a bit about a video signal system that more or less fits the range of the tbs crossfire?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+SIU nice idea, thanks.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Charles R Taylor not sure why? ;) I talked a little about this in the second 'answers' video. For longer range you need to use 2.4 or 1.3 Gigahertz FPV with a good directional antenna and as much power as is legal in your area. When the FPV blue stuff gets a little cheaper, that might be worth a look too. Happy flying!

@streetracer2321

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. How is it useful to have long distance control if you can’t see where you’re going? Doesn’t make sense

What brand and model is the game style transmitter shown early in video? Please. Thanx and great paced vid with lots of info! Cheers

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Adding a time-code really helps me to find the bit you mean. If you mean at 2:20 then that is the TBS Tango radio... Happy flying!

LQ, RSSI and mixed LQRssi in the betaflight OSD How to interpret LQ and RSSI on the OSD (0 to 99) And how to interpret the mix of LQ and RSSI Antenna placement of the micro rx, straight line or V/L shape? For me only straight line worked well maybe because it is a dipole and the V and L shape is used for the diversity reciever? Additional: how to point the antenna on the tx module And a warning not to twist the TX antenna without loosening the sma connector Also: how to know if a antenna is broken? Interpretation of SWR values

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Cyndre Lien great suggestions thanks. I was planning to talk about the 90 degree options on the reciever antennas. You lose total range but gain stability of signal as the craft moves..

Very informative video, however i read somewhere that the frequencies that crossfire uses are widely used across the uk. Will i be able to use crossfire to great effect in the uk???

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, covered in the series..

Hiya. Thank you for this clear video. I have a question... say i have the 'full' size crossfire tx (2Watt) and i plug it into my dji fpv remote (into the 3.5mm ppm output jack) is it possible to get telemetry from the aircraft back to the crossfire tx ? My aim is to use the crossfire module with the dji remote ( to get the benefits of a good/solid long range radio link that is better than dji) but also get telemetry back to the crossfire tx ( which i can connect to an android tablet via bluetooth and then plot the position of the drone on a map on a using Telemetry viewer app).

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I have no idea, let me know if you get this working. DJI kit is not designed with 3rd party operability in mind...

@beefybeef1326

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 will do!. i have seen others get dji working with crossfire (but using the ppm output plug on the dji remote to the crossfire. However its using ppm with increased latency). Their aim was to get a more robust link control to their drone so they wouldn't failsafe. They were not bothered about getting telemetry back.

I'd like to see it's use with 1.3g video

Nice tutorial, thanks for sharing! The cable with servo connector (from micro receiver to your FC), is that custom made? Mine didn't come with that cable, and the TBS servo adapter is bulky/added weight.

Awesome:)

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rav! Happy flying!

Nice video. Now, how would you go about using your other non-Crossfire RX's ? Is this a dedicated system once installed? So, that you can only use the Crossfire system? I guess my question basically is, what do I do when I want to use my XM+, or RXSR receivers? It sure would be an expensive endeavor having to dedicate that one radio for Crossfire, or having to change all my receivers to crossfire...? Again, very nice video and I'm "SUBBED" :) Best

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Select internal vs. external transmitter and you can choose between the two. See my video on it. You can find it by Googling something like 'external module painless360'

As a newcomer to Quad flying and reading up on everything, I've seen a lot of reference to Crossfire and so came here as a first stop for detailed info. However, do the new VLOS laws now in place make crossfire redundant? I'm getting on a bit now so my eyesight's not what it used to be but surely there aren't many pilots who can see a drone more than a mile away with naked eyes? Assuming I'm going to stay within the bounds of the new laws, what value does crossfire offer?

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

Check out the full Crossfire playlist that covers all the basics. Crossfire isn't just about long range, it's also for bullet proof signal connection and faster, lower latency connections to the model too.. Best of luck!

@jm-bc1gv

4 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 :) already started reading and watching. so much to learn haha. many thanks

Hello I'm using the full module on a spektrum dx6 running ppm powered by a external battery in FCC region. I've looked through the power menu and don't see the 2 watt option mines seems to stop at 1 watt. Is there something else I need to do to enable 2 watt. I've gotten great range from 500mw. I just want what I paid for. Lol!

I'd be interested in knowing how to hook the Crossfire to a Eagle Tree Vector, and also how it stacks up against the Dragon Link V3.....

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Mark Pfeifer no CRSF support on the Eagletree system ( see my series on it) so you connect it as you you would any sbus system.. hope that helps..

Thank you for making the video, it's been quite educational since I am new to the whole TBS Crossfire system. My question is, how did you connect your crossfire RX to your Pixhawk FC? Through the RC input on the FC and using the Sbus protocol? Thank you!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

That is a good idea for a video. I'd use sbus and a MAVlink pair..

Dear i have a question . if TBS Crossfire and Frsky R9m both uses 918Mhz Frequency then why both have different range capacity.

@Painless360

3 жыл бұрын

Range is down to lots of things. The frequency you use is only one of them. There is antenna design, power, protocol, band usage, LORA style management of the link, smart firmware... The difference is that all of those things are far better on the Crossfire system..

@sayedmuhammadidrees1453

3 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 Got it, Thanks..

Hi. Hey, Painless, at 2:19 what Radio is that you have there? TBS is looking great. Hey, Painless, have you done anything on 3G/4G stuff? Control and for Video. I'd be interested in learning more about it. What about Emlid Navio2. In November the Emlid Edge is being released. I would love to get the Edge. Would suit me down to a T!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

That is a TBS Tango! :D What do you mean by 3G/4G stuff?

Is frequency hopping supported so that multiple people at the field can use 915 or 845 at the same time? If not, i suspect this is why CRSF can obtain much better latency over 2.4 range?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

I'll add that to the list for future videos..

Hi @Painless360, is it possible to plug an external 3S Liion battery to the Crossfire, while it is also plugged to the JR bay of the taranis. I imagine it is possible, but I can't find a clear answer in the manual. Thanks, and keep up the great content !

Spent thousands on this stuff, can't get any of it to work. Thinking of taking up water colors or bird watching

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

Please see this video - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmin0bRvgcq1m5M.html - that should help you find those videos of mine and help you find the answers you need. Best of luck

@no_dead_endsproductions3799

3 жыл бұрын

Lol the amount of research I've been doing and money I've already spent making me feel the same 😂 but gotta keep pushing I'm determined to become a great fpv pilot

@kris12211221

3 жыл бұрын

@@no_dead_endsproductions3799 since my comment I've had a few breakthroughs and several flights. I suppose it's not quite as difficult as it seems, but can get frustrating.

Are there any benifits to the taranis lua script, or can you configure everything on the crossfire tx screen? My full crossfire and rx's will be here in 2 days I'm sooo happy YOU are making these videos now.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+John Doe the LUA script and the OLED screen both allow you to do all the setup steps. I’ve not seen the signal/noise spectrum analyser graphs you get in the module in the script yet..

Is there any version or a way to combine which has 15+ channels and allows me to connect to two or more receivers at the same time? I need 15 channels, and a separate receiver on my gimbal. Any solutions?

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

I've seen two. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYhtrrGHYZCopso.html or using an Sbus to PWM converter.... Best of luck

ni am italian i bought the tx long renge crossfire with rx diversity, together i have pixhawak 2,4,8 and its taranis 9 plus ... i have not found a single video explaining how you can assemble the sadaure to do and how to connect these 3 things .. i'm forced to sell everything because i can't figure out how to make it work..you can't make a video on how to assemble the diveristy thank

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch the videos in this series and read ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-tbs-rc.html then you should be OK.. Best of luck with it

@andreapetrachi467

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 tanks grazie

Hello, great guide, I want to try fly longer range with inav and ardu, will fill module with Bluetooth be better or just lite one ?

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

Noth will work great. I don't use the extra features of the larger unit (with the exception of the screen!)

@Chris-vc1dh

Жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 so better radio like 16s can do a telemetry to a tablet by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth so I could use micro tbs module ?

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure that any of that can get the telemetry to a PC. If that is something you really want then I'd use separate telemetry radios. See my PixHawk 2023 series for how that works with MAVlink and Ardupilot.. Best of luck!

Can't the crossfire connect to the jumper t8sg plus or the ts 12

Two questions for the next instalment: 1) Wouldn't you be better-off just running SBUS rather than slowing down the CRSF protocol to 1/4 speed? Wouldn't SBUS then be slightly faster? And; 2) Can you still receive telemetry when you run SBUS, or can you only receive LQ through CRSF? ??? Thanks in advance! My TBS Crossfire is on order (I literally *just* placed the order earlier tonight), now I only have to wait until the micro receivers are back in stock. :)

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Those are quick ones - 1) |The whole point of CRSF is that's it's bi-directional and very fast. You need that to 'talk' to the module for setup from the LUA script.. S-Bus is only used at the far end to talk to non CRSF enabled flight controllers. 2) see the answer on the other comment you posted :D

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

As you asked, here is a sneak peak - kzread.info/dash/bejne/onaFzpuChbGcZ8Y.html ;)

Will that full Crossfire Transmitter work with the TX16S Max?

@Painless360

3 жыл бұрын

Yep - see my RadioMaster videos..

@nighthawkvs

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your quick reply. keep up the videos. I love them!

I'm very confused, I just bought a prebuilt drone and idk whether tbs crossfire is a receiver, I currently have R9M, should I change it?

@Painless360

3 жыл бұрын

The person who you got it from should be able to tell you that. R9M is a inferior system compared to Crossfire but for normal flying it's very capable..

@mohammedshahir2816

3 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 yes thank you, I saw videos earlier today, thanks for the reply

I have just installed a nano Rx in one of my builds, and have a Tango 2. I have them both bound, with a steady green light on both Rx and radio, but I don't get any stick movement in my GUI? Any help anyone has would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

What troubleshooting have you already done? Channel map etc...

@3000gtwelder

4 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 I figured it out thanks, I'm just an idiot lol. I forgot to select CRSF in my GUI. Thanks for getting back to me though!

Thanks for this series of videos :) I do not understand your explanation about how you should aline the antennas, by default the Radio antenna is horizontal and the one on the copter is either straight up for the micro or bend at 90 degrees in the up position for the big receiver, is it the right choice?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+BrutusTheUgly more in that next time.. happy flying!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

The next video is uploaded waiting for release so you can see all about that in that video if you look in the Crossfire playlist. ;)

@BrutusTheUgly

6 жыл бұрын

Great thanks you :)

Hello !prompt please here at me on Crossfire GPS data from the menu of Taranis does not appear I choose detection of new sensors it about nine finds but among them there is no GPS data. but also for some reason telemetry in lua script inav on the remote also does not go though 3D fixation eventually occurs but for some reason the data from the controller flight most likely do not reach the remote in General I do not know what the problem is. you can tell on Crossfire behind on the remote control should be the last menu item displayed GPS data here I do not have them. in the configuration settings of the flight controller, inav has checked the data telemetry feed.What can be done .Where to find the answer that can suggest the ?!prior to that, the lua Script was working fine through the port F which was flying Nicky. Thanks in advance !

does the region select limit the output power or just the transmission frequency?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Power too..

@jamble7k

6 жыл бұрын

Painless360 just seen it's possible to run it in open mode for "testing" purposes (why would anyone buy a 2w capable module that's limited by software?) good overview anyway cheers

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+jamble7k Every country has its own R/C power limitations and to get certification and comply with the laws, TBS have had to add this feature. It's up to you whether or not you want to ignore it, disable it, or use a country settings with a higher power level. Doing it that way the responsibilty for any law breaking would sit squarely on your shoulders. Happy flying!

How do I set my failsafe to cut, using the main module. You just skipped that part. It's the only thing I'm unsure of.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Please check the playlist ;)

Hello Painless, I was hoping you might be able to help figure out why I am not getting any response on the Reciever tab in betaflight for a crossfire setup. Followed you videos and other instruction on the web but I am stuck. I have a full crossfire transmitter and nano receiver. The shows bound and gets telemetry data. I set UART six up in betaflight ports as serial. I did have ch1 and ch1 backwards on mamba mini F4 FC backwardscfor a bit and hope that did not hurt the FC. Configuration page set to serial subs and crossfire. Still no respose on betaflight receiver page. Only thing I can think of is a problem with the uart? Thanks for any sugestions.

@bryontrott

5 жыл бұрын

Okay just writing the problem out helped. Finally realized that UART 1 was still set for SBUS!

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you got it sorted! :D

hallo, if you want to run crossfire with 1.3ghz video will it be ok or some tricks need to be done? thanks

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

It should work fine. Keep the antennas separated on the model as much as possible... Best of luck

Thanks for the video. My antennas (two Immortal T's) are mounted in front of the quad horizontally at about a 45 degree angle to the front of the quad. So should my transmitter antenna be mounted vertically so the ends of the antenna are pointed up and down and not pointed at the quad (unless it was straight overhead)? Thanks for your help.

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

See my video on antenna alignment in the Cro playlist where I cover that.

@JohnMark61355

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your help. I have subscribed and watched many of your CF videos. As a person new to CF, they have been very beneficial. The Failsafe on my quad was from a bad receiver.

can i use this with futaba sg14 and a dji A2 as fc on a looong range HEXACOPTER that is around 1m in size and weight 6kg.. im building a filming hexa to record video and take pics

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I don't use that radio or flight controller here. Best of luck with the build!

@08halit

4 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 yeah its a bit bigger then racing drones but even so the parts used should work,like the vtx used in small race drones,,there are those pumping out 1200mw att 5,8ghz.. could i use that in my build ?

150Hz updates - not 150Mhz :)

Before buying 'Micro Crossfire Module',I'd like to know if the Horus X10S is affected by inverted chip as some QX7 are.Tks

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it is..

With my drone turned on, if i turn on the radio my crossfire micro takes about 25~30 seconds to connect to the drone (nano receiver) is this behavior normal? If I do the same but turn on the radio first it connects instantly... Thanks!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

I'd always turn on the radio first anyway. I'd update to the latest firmware (v2.4) and see if that changes anything.. Best of luck!

@trt969

6 жыл бұрын

Painless360 Thanks for the answer, I was already in the 2.4 firmware, I just tried to bind it to another RX and the problem disappeared... Really weird, maybe something related to the open TX o the lua script. Thanks!

Is it possible to connect a crossfire receiver system to a different receiver so I can still have as many channels I want from my existing receiver somehow? I am trying to keep the amount of channels my 20 channel receivers have. It seems that the diversity receivers have a limited amount of channels but I want more.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I understand the question. You want two recievers?

@larsulrich3356

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 I want to be able to use all 20 channels that my current radio transmitter supports. I have an iX20SE. What is the maximum amount of channels that crossfire supports and which receivers would you recommend?

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. I've not used that many channels on my Crossfire stuff.. Next time I have it out I'll look. Let me know if you test it too..

Would you consider doing a comparison review with the R9M module from FrSKY? Module is $50, R9 is $55 and the R9 Slim is $25. I've had really good results with my updated R9M and R9 receiver... Starting to think everyone is affiliated or sponsored by TBS/doesn't want to talk about it.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

The FrSky version is very basic in comparison (no CRSF, no LUA script support etc.) but works great for longer range and, due to the reduced feature set, is a lot easier to setup.. If I get a set, I'll make some videos..

@windwalkerfpv

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it would be great to see an honest review/comparison. I have no Crossfire but really like my setup. Also, what would you need LUA script for, FrSKY has R9M settings built in the radio setup page so you can change power settings, telemetry, etc... Obviously no CRSF but has SBUS, Also I see signs that FrSKY will be improving protocols like F.Port/releasing a lower latency PWM as featured on the RX8R Pro receiver.

For long range fpv planes I can see this would be very cool. Wondering how such long range is useful for a racing quad?

@RobB_VK6ES

6 жыл бұрын

not so much for long range , rather it has better penetration for reliable coverage in areas that 2.4 has problems. e.g. dense brush, concrete buildings etc.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

The main advantage for a racing quad is the increase in speed over s-bus and the extra features the full duplex operation will give us when it's working (in BF 3.3 hopefully).

Hi, could you please demo the lua script setup for taranis to control pids via tx with CRSF.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

I will when it's supported fully. We'll need BF 3.3 for that...

@fatal510

6 жыл бұрын

You just need updated LUA files. github.com/codecae/betaflight-tx-lua-revised

I have just bought the ezuhf module and setup using 1.3ghz for video but find I can bind it ok but as soon as I get 100mtrs away signal is list and I have to go into hi, I am very interested in this series as I am thinking this is a better system , your thoughts on both this unit and the ezuhf would be great

@JeroenBrosens

6 жыл бұрын

EzUHF works on 433 MHz, 1.3GHz is on the 3rd harmonic (4x433~1.3G), in other words, your VTx is interfering with your EzUHF receiver. Use either another RC frequency or another video band. Just always make sure that your video frequency divided by your RC frequency isn't a whole number.

Mine just says waiting on crossfire, you can't even see the whole thing on the screen. does that mean the rx and tx backward on the inverter? I followed the vid to the t, updated qx7and micro tbs tx. Need help please

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you’ve installed the wrong LUA script. Check you’re using the one fur your radio. Best of luck!

Can you do a video on how to set this up with KISS FC and the settings in the Taranis for the LUA script? I can't get my telemetry working and my buzzer does not work now in my ESC's

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+3000gtwelder I’ll see what I can do. kiss.flyduino.net/download/bundled-firmware-v1-3rc30-for-kiss-fc-cc/

Hey are you planning on doing a 2.4/900mhz Diversity set up? Is it possible with the Crossfire?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

I wasn't until you wrote that! Let me see if it's something I can get setup.. :D

Hello, I am having a problem getting my Crossfire To Connect to my NAZA v2. Can you provide suggestions on how I can get Both devices to talk to one another.

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

I don't use NAZA here but I'd expect to have to use SBus. Be aware that an update may help as there were specific updates to the Sbus implementations for things like this earlier in the year. Best of luck!

Hey there! You mentioned the CRSF protocol was open, but I can't find any more information on it. Do you have some links to more information?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Shazzner I’ll ask the TBS boys. You looking fur a spec?

@Shazzner

6 жыл бұрын

Yes and if their source code is available, thanks! I'd much rather go with an open source implementation than a proprietary one.

@Shazzner

6 жыл бұрын

This is all I found so far: github.com/betaflight/betaflight/blob/master/src/main/rx/crsf.c

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Leave it with me..

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

OK, at the moment TBS will share the spec with anyone that asks by raising a ticket on the TBS website. The spec will be fully released generally to the public around spring next year..

How can I get the Hero session 4 video feed from the quad copter to mission planner hud ? Is there such a thing as a wifi transmitter I can setup on the drone that will connect to the camera and send the feed to a receiver I can install to the pc , and get the signal to the mission planner hud ? Anyone know ? I need part numbers ! Or do I have to install an separate FPV system , and just turn the go pro on record when I take off ?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Noah Wheeler you'll need a cable that will take the video- out from the camera and put it into a standard FPV transmitter. There are lots of details about how you then plug an FPV video receiver into a computer via some kind of video capture device that will allow you to then have the video in Mission planner. Hope that helps

Would u recommend this for a rx8 Spektrum controller? if so how can I setup with it?

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

I've not tried it in any of the Spektrum radios, sorry..

@BlindedByEvil

5 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 no probs. Do you know anything compared to the controllers you have used?

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

See my kit picks video from last summer for radio choices (I will be doing an update to it in a months time so it is a little out of date), FrSky seem to be making some odd choices when it comes to the inverters they are using in their radios that mean that you can't run the Crossfire system at full speed, despite them knowing about the problem. Some think it's a deliberate attempt to undermine the TBS product and sell their R9M system..

Hi I fly both mini quads and wings, i recently have put a ezuhf system in my wing, would the crossfire be better than the ezuhf ?I also have an auto pilot in my wing but it still uses pwm can the crossfire still use pwm if i needed to?I currently use 5.8ghz for video will the crossfire interfer with 5.8ghz or 1.3ghz?could you do a series on setting on up in a plane with an auto pilot and how to set fail safe to trigger rththankyou

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

All covered in this series, keep watching...

Hello. I must extant the range on my RC Car. How can I apply this to my RC-CAR Controller?? Any Help please !! Thanks.

@twistedsocal

5 жыл бұрын

this should work just fine. but just as with any low power tx signal, the ground itself will block signal. the diamond antenna is supposed to use the ground to extend range though so that is probably the way to go

Another needle in the haystack found. Learned that ★ this is not as easy as I had thought ★ tbs Crossfire seems to offer a lot ★ Crossfire adds a bit of complexity too I wanna buy one to get strong connection and long range too but I am unsure at what price regarding my frsky receiver infrastructure. I got the X9D plus last weekend and put it in sale when I got behinds frsky strategy to close their system for Access and leaving d8 owners behind and to kill Jumper as competitor from all Chinese Sales Channels pretty effectively. But I ordered a T16 Pro Hall the Moment I found out opentx will support T16. And now frsky has a problem to sell me stuff - except for high discounts which will hurt them. My question: this series is 2 years old and I am not sure what had happened with tbs Crossfire development meanwhile - except frsky no longer supplies tbs with frsky Radios. Is tbs Crossfire still first choice for fixed wing ... gliders in conjunction with T16 Pro Hall ? Thanks again.

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

It is for me...

@typxxilps

4 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 THANKS A LOT ... from germany

Hi, I’m looking at the frsky long range module and the international version works at 900 MHz and the EU at 868Mhz. Will the 900mhz equipment such as antennas work on the EU version? Thank you

@Nebul3r

3 жыл бұрын

if youre in europe get the eu version rest of the world prefer international version, no you cannot use a 900mhz antenna with a 868mhz, they are tuned for different frequencies, on the module itself you can just change fw suiting your location.

Will the 900mhz interfere with 5.8ghz or 1.3ghz video

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+dragon121978 answered later in the series.. Best of luck!

Does Crossfire package have instructions to install on a Spektrum DX8 G2? Any possibility of you doing a video on Spektrum install?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Prop Bender thanks for the idea. You’ll need to use the trainer port set to PPM and the 3.5mm cable supplied..

@propbender3301

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. This product really interests me. But all set up vids are FrSky.

Can I use the crossfire with a dx9 Spektrum radio?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+randall reis if you gave the Crossfire (not the mini) and use the PPM trainer cable to connect it to the trainer port on the radio you can.. I’m not sure that Spektrum have added CRSF support.. ;)

@itchyliabdo

6 жыл бұрын

Painless360 any chance you might cover spektrum dx9 setup?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Doubtful at the moment but it looks like TBS and Spektrum are working to add CRSF support to a later release of the radio firmware. The next video is uploaded waiting for release so you can see all about that in that video if you look in the Crossfire playlist. ;)

I'm trying to build an autonomous ground vehicle, can I use this frequency on the ground?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Deserthunter Mike you’ll need to check the laws/regulations in your country to be sure..

@MikeDesertHunterHale

6 жыл бұрын

USA

Hi :) Im planning on getting a crossfire micro, but are they frequencies it broadcasts legal in the UK? I'm having trouble finding a proper answer to this question

@Painless360

5 жыл бұрын

Please see the Antenna Lab videos for links to the documentation that covers what we can use in the UK..

@lakshithranasinghe

5 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 okay :) thanks for the reply

When I run the crossfire.lua my TBS CORE PRO V2 also appears with my Tx & Rx? Will the Taranis control the Core, i.e. if using the quads OSD to change settings the video Tx is locked on 25mW unless a call-sign is displayed then you're able to increase video power, however if changing via Taranis crossfire.lua it allows you to increase video Tx setting whether call-sign is shown or not?Also what is the device.lua in the Crossfire folder? If I run it I get an error in script?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+James Nathaniel things are changing very quickly with this technology. CRSF as a bidirectional telemetry connection will allow you to control anything at the far end with the right LUA script and that support is expected in Betaflight in 3.3. If you're having a problem then I'd recommend having a quick look in the forum or raising a ticket with TBS for help. I'll add this to the list of things to talk about in a future video.

Looking forward to a good thorough telemetry explanation. Can it or will it ever be able to pass through mavlink? Thanks for the vids.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

MAVLink from what exactly? Full duplex mode will be supported in BF3.3 from what I can see..

@Wayno_Complaino

6 жыл бұрын

From a pixhawk. I'm comparing to ULRS that has RC and a full transparent two way serial link. Its not very robust though so a commercial product would be preferable when one is available with more than just frsky telemetry.

@JeroenBrosens

6 жыл бұрын

Voting +1 for that. There are enough LRS's on the market, but the Crossfire is very useful regarding its serial downlink. Think telemetry, antenna trackers, flying autonomous missions etc. it would be nice if you could highlight this feature in one of your vids.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Jeroen Brosens I’ll add that to the list. Lots of options for MAVlink with this system..

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

MAVLink was one of the initial development goals/uses for this system. You can configure two of the pins on the Crossfire Rx to be MAVlink TX and MAVlink Rx and then connect those to the port on the flight controller sending the MAVlink telemetry. Then you can share that MAVlink data using Bluetooth with any device (only on the full size Crossfire TX module). Then you can connect to it with your device running Mission Planner/QGroundControl using that BT link and have all of your MAVLink telemetry and control over KM of range.. :D I'll cover this in the third video in the series..

Do i have to instal the lua script with taranis?

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't need to. The Crossfire scripts have been a standard part of the SD card contents for some time... best of luck

please review the micro system ,ive had a hard time getting it to bind up.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Chris Harris I'm not sure it's worth doing entire review just to help with one problem ;) What have you tried? And what is the actual problem you're having?

@mikesmith1290

6 жыл бұрын

I had that problem before. The button on the back of the Micro TX is very finicky about how long you press it. You need to press it once very quickly, then power on the RX. It should be in bind mode. If the light in the TX is blue the firmware on the RX needs to be updated. Just. Press the button again, very quickly and it will start the process of binding and updating. Hope that helps. It was driving me mad at 1st! If you press the button even a split second longer on the micro tx, it won't enter bind mode

can opentx on the x12s horus also communicate per crsf?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Ruben Hartmann last time I spoke to the TBS guys, they were looking for volunteers to test it. I don't have that radio here so I've not been able to try either. Might be worth a check in the documentation to see what the latest updates are. Best of luck!

Will the crossfire work on the QX7 if the crossfire is set to ppm?

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

I've not tried but with the mod, you can run the Crossfire at full speed..

@sparkey044

4 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 More interested in long range, where the speed part of it isn't that important.. thanks for your reply. Love and used your videos all the time.

When I bind my tbs crossfire the light on the micro receiver has a solid red and a flashing green, also the module stays orange. How do I fix this?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+Elliot_fpv sounds like the reciever isn’t bound. What troubleshooting have you done?

@elliotfpv2645

6 жыл бұрын

Painless360 I think it is bound because if I then turn off the crossfire tx the green light stops flashing

What is the difference between rssi and LQ?

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+John Doe added to the list for the next video!

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

The next video is uploaded waiting for release so you can see all about that in that video if you look in the Crossfire playlist. ;)

i wish somebody could just make a working solar power lipo battery itd be so cool

Wait, So if I pick the wrong region I can't use 2000mw power? And what frequency is better 868 or 915mhz? What is the micro v2 rx stock antenna tuned to? You're scaring me.😯 I thought the only difference in region was the mhz.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+John Doe don’t be scared, kit follow the manual. Best of luck!

@JeroenBrosens

6 жыл бұрын

US=915, EU=868 MHz. The antennas are probably tuned to none of these exactly, but somewhere inbetween.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

Also, if you have the full size Crossfire Google 'TBS Konami code' ;)

How to control dys mi 200 or iflight vtx thru tx

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

The control of a model is exactly the same with Crossfire as with any other system. I personally prefer the TBS, Immersion TRAMP HV or the HolyBro Atlatl HV smart VTX units that can be configured from the Betaflight OSD..

Will this work with FrSky QX7 Radio?, I heard there were some bugs.

@Painless360

6 жыл бұрын

+James I answer this in the video.. it’s still bot perfect..

im confused as to how the fpv system comes in

@Painless360

4 жыл бұрын

If your need to all this then check out the 'Introduction to FPV' playlist for how it all works...