Thanks - Superb presentation. I found the 0.001-inch "click" accuracy amazing. Your vacuum demo with the dado well worth it. Now going to forgo the purchase of a Kreg and buy an Incra lower end package, then upgrade more later. Best

I have a decked out setup with an amazing DC router. Lots of money, but it’s the last time I’ll ever need to invest in the table. Love it!

Thanks great review. I just bought the Incra Ls Super system and can't wait for it. I bought the table top and everything above for under a $1,000. I will build the cabinet myself.

@theodorebowers9737

3 жыл бұрын

H A PPY FOR YOU YOU WILL SEE

It makes beautiful half blind dovetails and it does it quick and easy, once you set it up, which only takes a few minutes. not only did I make new drawers for my kitchen, I then did the same for all the bathroom vanities. I then went around looking for more drawers to make (it was comical). I made new drawers for my garage cabinets. I just love this unit. I am retired and I am having a ball making things. It may be a bit pricey to buy, but it is a solid unit that will last for many years. I plan to leave it to my son after I am gone. The only thing I can see that may need replacing is perhaps the router itself. Even good ones don't last forever. So yea, I am happy with it and intend to use it to make things (not just drawers) for years to come.

This is an super accurate system! Thx for this instruction-video

Really good series. I appreciate you answering my questions and I now understand the set up. Also, you cleared up a question I didn't ask about why the 25" rather than the 17". I have decided the set you displayed is the one for me. Good to know information. Please continue with more great videos. Thanks from a new subscriber.

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve. Spread the word. I'm looking to expand my reach. I'm slowly getting better with the editing too. Lol.

@jimpalmer1944

8 жыл бұрын

+The German Joiner I will share with my local woodworking group.

Good Job! I think you might have missed comments on your insights, sometimes. Maybe because you thought those were not important! They are to me! I have a 52-inch TS-LS positioner with a Wonder Fence and I get you on the right-side gray-space. Also, I'm almost from the start, tired of always needing my table saw in the middle of a router operation so I want to separate the two tools. I'm almost sold on the Incra table and the extra positioner I'll need.

Thanks for this! Helps me a lot.

Eso, aún más automatizado "será la de Dios"... Así pues... no se si muchísimos carpinteros de antes, merecían una calle en su nombre, una estatua... o quizás una cotapada = golpe en la cabeza (en asturiano), por "no pensar"... Gracias por el vídeo Maestro... Se ve de sobras ese su arte que tiene para trabajar, y además para explicar las cosas... Aunque no entiendo el Inglés, le Deseo Mucha Salud para seguir explicándonos cosas... Saludos & Salud Para Toda Su Familia.

You got plenty of space in that shop! You should have bought the TS-LS model, I know you probably figure that one out already.

Thanks for the explanation; very helpful. You'd increase your subscriber base if you answered all viewers questions and not just the odd random ones. After all you inspired the questions.

Good review. Thank you.

Hi, First let me tell you this is a greate review! This will help with my decision of buying the Incra LS. one quick question, Which brand and model of vacuum are you using with your setup?

very cool. have been looking for a serious router....looks like this is it!

@royalsbuilt1216

5 ай бұрын

You will like it. It has its downsides. Like takes up space. But it’s good. I wouldn’t get the same lift again though. Micro adjust is tough with the thumb dial

Excellent video! Thank you. I've been going back and forth between the Incra and the Kreg...not anymore.

@theodorebowers9737

3 жыл бұрын

I telling you now don't get that krag thing no anything like this true me please NITE & DAY. NO NITE AND SUNSHINE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE DON'T GOOD THERE for what they do A guess it has it places too but not with me ! If that all you can get right now wait till you can you will be happy.

Very nice review im looking to buy this fence not the hole table because i have a very small area do u think it could be used taken on and off ? Of the table my router table is on the leftwing of my table saw and i would have to remove it often ?

I need to make a 3ft box. Could I use this system to make the box using dovetails? I think you said the fence is 2 ft, but could you do one end of the board turn it around and do the other side?

what's the complete model number (Combo kit) and router mount? great video btw!

Have you tested the clean sweep mag inserts with holes? You have a very big insert plate in comparison to your router bit.

just bought this setup putting together tomorrow.good to see what to watch out for well done

@royalsbuilt1216

5 ай бұрын

How do you like it so far

Hi, just happened upon your channel. great stuff! I thumbed up & subscribed how could i not. lol just wondering what size shop you got there? I currently have 12' x 20' very small, the wife gave me the thumbs up to expand. going to 24' x 28' trying to get an idea of what thats actually gonna look like. if your shop is comparable i will be a happy camper! ...lol thanks and keep up the good work.

I ordered pretty much the entire system on the 7th of March 2016 and have yet to see it shipped. There is a bit of a wait because of demand I guess. Here is what I ordered and I can't wait for it to be devlivered! Here is my list: #1- The table, table top and the 25 inch LS Wonder system, #2- The Porter Cable Router 75182 motor (not sure if 3 or 3.25 hp as varying specs have me guessing until I see in my own hands)... #3- The Incra PRL V2 router lift setup, #4-the Wixey remote digital readout and a collet or so for flexibility. I've decided against the dust collector for now as the Aluminum extrusion table framing allows for I think 1/2 inch plywood or such material for custom framing of the table its self. I ordered a no wheel setup because I'm going to make my own mobile base. I think I paid close to $1400 with discounts/taxes/shipping/10% this and that... Be warned, your wife may not be as forgiving as mine and don't forget to get some tooling!!! :)

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

+Webendowed Hey buddy. Yea it's a great setup. You're gonna love it but they usually are pretty backed up on production. Well worth the wait though. I think you made the right choice on the mobile setup. I'm not impressed with mine to be perfectly honest. If I was to do it again I would skip it too. The dust collection on the other hand I love. I have it setup to suck both from the wonder fence and the Cleansweep. Makes a huge difference. As far as tooling I have a bit of an illness and collect more crap over the years. I probably have 100 Router Bits. lol. Oh yea btw, it's a wonderful thing having an understanding wife. Makes it easier to spend all that money Let me know how you like the digital readout

@Webendowed

8 жыл бұрын

I did seriously consider the dust collection system but I can craft the same thing at a more reasonable price with both hose options and say "I did it myyyyy waaayyy!!!' (little musical note there :) ) Take care and I will let you and your viewers know what I think of the digital readout system when this thing finally arrives.

@bw162

Жыл бұрын

Things haven't changed much in the wait times. In 2023, it is 2.5 months. Crazy! I don't understand the company philosophy that doesn't build to meet demand.

Good video . (for longest reach for dado cuts the wonder fence can be removed and the saw fence used as the guide) AND this out all dust suction to under table suction (fence does none when dado cutting , anyhow)

@glenpowel

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

I ordered the clean sweep and depending on how it is ordered you chose the "special rings" as part of the package; or not. Your choice. If you haven't modified your original rings I'll be glad to trace my rings onto paper and send the pattern to you.Thanks, DocMebane, NC

Great video's! I have ordered mine but sadly it is do to ship in 4 to 5 weeks

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

Yea. Good things come to those who wait I guess lol

@MAGAMAN

5 жыл бұрын

You were lucky, it's 8 to 10 weeks for me. Which is fine, because I need to make room for it before it shows up, which is no small task.

@iamthewelcher

3 жыл бұрын

LOL...it's 5 months now!!!

very nice. can you show some product you made?

TS-LS seems like overkill for a router table-but a nice setup with the the lift and table.

Okay, I finally got a router table, seven years later. Actually, it's a work in progress. I picked the Jessem Master-Lift Excel II with the wheel on the side to raise and lower the router in the Jessem phenolic table. I really wanted the Incra Cleansweep with the MagnaLock rings, but I guess I wanted the wheel more. I just ordered the Jessem TA fence for too much money and I just need to get a micro-adjust for the fence, which seems like it should come with it for that price. I had bought the Bosch MRF23EVS 15 amp router because I read on some forum that it was the same diameter as the 12 amp router, but it is too big and won't fit the lift. So I have to make three 6mm spacers and jump through some hoops to get the switch to work, since it is in the fixed-base handle, which needs to be removed to put it in the lift.

@dahut3614

11 ай бұрын

That's *four* spacers. I had to mill down the 0.246-inch thick "6mm" aluminum that I bought at Amazon to 0.222-inches and bent them into a slight V-shape on the press brake at work- about a 150° obtuse angle. With the spacers, it now tightens in the 4.2-inch Porter Cable configuration! There is a removable aluminum ring on the Jessem table (no plate) which holds the insert rings that is 5.23-inches in diameter and 3/8-inch thick. If someone could tell me the diameter of the Magnalock rings (and the distance across the "magnet bumps"), maybe I could make a custom ring that could fit the Magnalock rings...

@dahut3614

11 ай бұрын

It looks like about 4-13/16-inch across the "magnet bumps" and 4-3/16-inch on the round part. This is small enough to fit. I went to the Rockler store to measure the rings in the Incra Lift that fits Rockler tables. This is accurate to the extent that I could measure using a tiny keychain tape measure with not-as-young-as-they-used-to-be eyes!

@royalsbuilt1216

5 ай бұрын

Sorry I’ve been away so long. I bet you’ll like that router lift more than the one I got. The thumb wheel is difficult. How do you like the setup?

Does the incra fence has an adjustable out feed fence part?

the first thing you have to do is learn how to use the scales and rulers with the cross hair system. I threw my Biesemeyer fence in the corner and replaced it with an Incra system many years ago. I also scratch built down draft dust collection boxes for both tables. you need to get the ring set before you loose a finger or a 2x4 down the hole

Hi bro loved your video, just want to know the cost of the whole system including the motor and all the accessories. I am living in kingdom of Bahrain.

Excellent video! I just sub'd to your channel. I've got the same Incra 27" x 43" Table, stand, and LS-25 Super System along with the Incra Mast-R-Lift 11 router lift + all the clean sweep metal rings and standard metal rings, Incra wheel kit, and the JessEm power switch. However I do not have the Clean Sweep Dust Cabinet yet. How do you like your Incra Dust Cabinet, and are you glad that you purchased it? Any problems in accessing your router's speed control through the Clean Sweep access door? I have a Bosch 1617EVS router in my Incra Mast-R-Lift 11 lift. Cheers from Ontario Canada.

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing. The clean sweep cabinet is great very happy that I have it and no issues with the router speed controls. You just need to make sure they're facing the right direction. I love the cabinet, although it's a little bit of a pain assembling it. The o my thing I would say to stay clear of is the wheel kit. I don't like it at all.

@TYB439

3 жыл бұрын

@@royalsbuilt1216 What is wrong with the Incra wheel kit? Why don't you like it?

I love my incra with wonder fence. But for dados, dado blade on table saw is more efficient than router. However it's nice for stop dados.

They sent me the whole set of rings for me, but I purchased EVERYTHING. They did not include the T-trac though on mine. How powerful is your dust collection? I did subscribe.

@royalsbuilt1216

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 3 HP powermatic. It works pretty well. Thanks for the comment. It may be time to start making videos again. It’s been a long time.

I really like this system, but think I would prefer a wider table for longer pieces. Does that seem legitimate or is that just analysis paralysis?

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

+Dahut I wouldn't say it was paralysis by analysis. It really boils down to preference. A longer table would help support a larger piece, but at the same time as long as the piece registers against the bit, you wouldn't have an issue no matter the size of the table. Think about a router base. It's maybe 6 inches across, but if the bit registers correctly, the cut will be clean. Besides you can always use an outfeed roller ;)

@dahut3614

8 жыл бұрын

+The German Joiner Well if you're happy with it then it can't be too bad! It seems like these JessEm Clear Cut Stock Guides might be a worthwhile accessory: www.incrementaltools.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=JE04215 . Also, I see they have special MagnaLock rings with extra air passages for use with the Cleansweep system: www.incrementaltools.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=INC-CSMLRINGSET

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

+Dahut Nice! I really like those. And I thought they were sending the magnalock rings with the grooves but I was wrong. I think I'm going to modify the ones I have and machine some grooves or drill some holes in them.

What router did you install?

Excellent

How much for the whole package? $1700 ?

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

It was about that. Every so often they have deals though

@robertavery8897

7 жыл бұрын

Chuck Johnson I just bought the system for $1200. With the best lift system. Thought u would be interested. TSLS 32 in system#2

@chriss4169

6 жыл бұрын

I just bought the highest package as well as Jessem hold downs for the router fence. It was 1393 delivered

Why is the position of the ls body so far of the table

@royalsbuilt1216

8 жыл бұрын

I got the 25" LS. So the design is that it hangs off the table. Honestly not a huge fan of it hanging over just cuz of how it looks, but I haven't had any problems with the stability of it.

This voice sounds like Hawkeye off MASH!

And now, in the year of our lord 2021, you will not be wasting ANY scrap ply !!

With the woodpecker router lift, this setup will be over $2000.....

2 ways to make this router table even better: - add a superPID to control router rpm. - add some electrickery to activate dust collection automatically.

Why on earth does anyone need a 52” fence on a table saw. Track saw dude!

@royalsbuilt1216

5 ай бұрын

We’ve got the track saw too. A couple actually. Lol. 52” keeps us doing repeatable cuts faster. We rarely use the capacity though.

These days he just killed $50 worth of plywood!

Whow, what a brain dead design having the router motor enclosed within the dust extraction cabinet. Ow, that's OK its made is the USA.