Thank you! My relatively new Champion Dual Fuel 4550 starting watt 3650 running watt has that exact problem! Fuel is just flowing out there when I start it. Must be the same makers, or same makers of the part. Now I know the issue at least! Thanks again! Well done!
@grahamalford23573 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. I took my carb apart and then used metal polish on the pin. I loaded a q-tip on my drill with some metal polish and the inside of the pin shaft. It worked!
@Watch-enthusiast.Florida11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video it help me fix mine 😊
@topthatjh42 Жыл бұрын
I know this was 9 years ago. Just curious to know if it worked
@johnhicks735 Жыл бұрын
That fuel you can remove ethanol fuel out of gasoline fuels that has it inside of it. By watching A video on KZread channel on how to that process step by step. If that's something you would be interested in learning how to do At home for your generator.,or even your lawnmower.& Etc. That's gasoline.,or even two stroke also known as 2 cycle fuel mixtures to.
@andrewkurz8596 Жыл бұрын
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
@brianbirkes6618 Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS!!! I bought a GP5500, It failed in less than 10 hours. Customer service did nothing despite it being a 100 percent design flaw. Seal failure allowed light rain to leak into the gas tank. rusted out. Cost $400 to replace. They don't care about their customers. The rust caused mine to stick and it flooded all over the back of my truck.
@arron19 Жыл бұрын
Sept 2022 Hurricane Ian watch this video an you saved the day thank you!!
@TheArcV Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that - hoping for a speedy recovery for you
@captyoyo Жыл бұрын
Fixed the leak on my generator but the generator won't start. Should I check the spark plug? Fuel is running thru the system.
@USR8823 Жыл бұрын
I'm having this exact same problem with my Generac generator. Thank you so much!
@johnnyohness2 жыл бұрын
I have called everywhere and under that part number, the float pins in stock are the metal ones. No one seems to have polymer float needles. Where did you order your's Sir? Could you post your source, please?
@jamesrudolph77942 жыл бұрын
Good information about this particular carburetor issue. For those with less mechanical aptitude please use the correct terminology for the hardware involved to avoid confusion.
@chaoticlizzards6532 жыл бұрын
This happened to my 2020 Indian motorcycle, not happy about it
@lvsoccer18702 жыл бұрын
Great video. We took apart our same generator and the tip of the float needle was all gummed up. We installed a new needle and no more gass leak. Thank you for the terrific information. Two thumbs up!! A++ info.
@topthatjh42 Жыл бұрын
Did you use a Honda or original Generac float
@ttiimmffiisshheerr4993 жыл бұрын
Will that same pin work for a general 6500?.
@TheArcV3 жыл бұрын
You mean for a Generac GP6500? Maybe. It depends on the carburetor shipped with that model and the model revision. Mine has a Huayi Standard of Japan carburetor. I bought my GP5500 back in 2011 or so. I believe that Generac has replaced the carb model in later models of generators so it might no longer be the same.
@louiedee2793 жыл бұрын
I have the 5000 generac. It leaks out. I have not taken out carb. I will eventually have to take it apart.
@kwalshblvd3 жыл бұрын
Huge help, thank you! I just completed my first small engine repair job.
@kwalshblvd3 жыл бұрын
Also, I should add that I own a Champion Dual-Fuel unit from Costco. Looks exactly the same.
@tinkergene4 жыл бұрын
I replaced the needle with the Honda o e m - I cleaned the brass seat - and it still leaks a little- it’s not leaking from the bottom bolt - gas is coming out of the air cleaner so the Honda needle didn’t help me - that’s $ 23.00 spend for nothing
@TheArcV4 жыл бұрын
You probably need a full carb cleaning and test. The float itself might not be buoyant enough to push the pin into the seat with enough pressure to fully shut off the fuel. So you might need to replace that also.
@SimmeringPotpourri4 жыл бұрын
I have a ETQ TG52T42 and I started mine up tonight to get it ready for the snow that is coming and sure enough it started to leak from the bowl. I'm going to buff mine tomorrow but I appreciate the video and hopefully it helped me pinpoint the problem.
@timothysnyder26244 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. I was able to clean and get it running. Yellow gunk covered everything. Only using Tru-Fuel from now on.
@mikehenderson12684 жыл бұрын
What would be the cost for taking it a shop[ for repair?
@joesgarage89534 жыл бұрын
To clean the carb and replace the float pin? Depends on the labor rate as the parts are cheap. I think you are looking at 100-200 USD. But they might not want to put in a plastic needle.
@mikehenderson12684 жыл бұрын
@@joesgarage8953 Thanks, Joe. Seems a plastic needle would never get corroded. Thanks
@mortalman67615 жыл бұрын
Great Info. My Powermate generator had the same issue. It fixed it and yes.... it dumps an excessive amount of fuel all over the place if not repaired. Thanks.
@aslanr65 жыл бұрын
stabil is the problem, That stuff kills engine parts
@chuck06835 жыл бұрын
I have a 4000 Watt generator I bought used $40 it leaks around the same area
@helenah76685 жыл бұрын
Mine didn't just leak it POURED out in a 4 day outage :( . I'm going to try taking it apart from the bottom first as it seems much easier to me. Either way they took the solenoid off but I do understand more chance of stripping it. May as well change the oil while I'm fixing it...........better find a you tube for that too, lol.
@jamesakenhead88586 жыл бұрын
Excellent diagnosis... great part substitution... looks like a long term fix
@fordpinto6 жыл бұрын
I have a lowes version of that generator, bought it around 2007 after a large storm in the Chicago area knocked out my area for about 9 days. Threw in a 220 breaker and backfed the breaker box,(yes I killed the main) it was great having one of the few houses fully powered, while the rest of the neighborhood was dark. It ran for about 5 or 6 days non stop. After the outage was fixed,I put stabilizer in and ran for a bit and cut the fuel and ran the carb dry. Since then I've started it a couple times a year with fresh fuel and stabilizer, then ran it dry. I've only needed the generator 2 or 3 times for short outages, but I developed the same issue and of course it happened when I was going to need it. I'm in Tennessee now, our neighborhood is getting new power lines and poles, so I pulled it out of the shed to get ready,filled it with gas, and it was pouring out the carb. I ran across this video looking up the carb, I was curious what I was going to see inside the carb, I haven't tinkered with small engines in years, long before selonoids we're on them. I was able to give it a good cleaning and it worked for now, but will order the parts and have them on hand if it happens again. I'm beginning to think it's better to leave the carb bowl full of stabilized fuel when stored,as from the random videos I've seen, most of them stated they also ran them dry for storage.
@TheWilferch6 жыл бұрын
Let me ask....this guy in this other vid...... also speaks about a fuel leak for Generac....but only dis-assembles the float bowl from the bottom, and doesn't disturb the upper part of the carb body where all the delicate linkages are that you took apart and had to be so very careful to get back together. This other guy also fixed it in another way simply cleaning the pin channel with a Q-tip and did not replace the metal pin with a plastic Honda part. Maybe the best of both worlds is to marry your guy's 2 vids---> kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqOj19SHdZrflLw.html. His "take-apart" with your plastic pin suggestion......
@TheArcV6 жыл бұрын
Wil, the problem with mine was that the shaft of the float pin had a spot of corrosion, which made it get stuck in the extremely tight tolerance of the pin channel you speak of. So cleaning the pin channel wold have done nothing to fix the issue for my machine. That other video might be a good quick fix for just a dirty carb. I actually fixed mine three times with the last being the content of my video. The first time, I replaced the corroded metal pin. The pin corroded again, and I fixed it a second time by buffing the corroded spot off the pin shaft. However it started corroding again after this and stuck again. The third (and final time by the way as it is still good over three years later) is by taking the metal pin problem out of the equation and putting a compatible plastic pin in there as apparently was done on the similar Honda carb. Keep in mind that I always use fresh fuel with stabilizer. So the metal pins used for the carbs, and the replacement ones on the market must not tolerate ethanol-gasoline fuels. No such problems with the plastic pin. Also note that I think Generac quietly fixed this problem in later models.
@TheWilferch6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your detailed response. I think we're on the same page. The point missed perhaps is one could access the pin and replace it with a simpler approach by removing the float bowl from below as the other guy did in the other, listed video. If you watched his complete video, he gets to the float and the pin and holds the pin in his hand. No doubt plastic vs repeated metal corrosion is a better fix. Lastly....how did Generac fix the later models.....do you know?...did they use a different metal alloy for the pin that is less prone to corrosion?
@TheArcV6 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be a simpler way. One thing I caution on is when removing the solenoid from the bottom of the float bowl, it is very easy to strip the brass cross-head screws that hold that in place. These are screwed in tight. Without taking the carb completely off, it may strip more easily since you cannot apply as much firm pressure with the carb still mounted. (YMMV). Also, you cannot inspect the parts as easily. I do not know for sure about later models. Only that there were far fewer reports online and at the BBU that there were leaks due to stuck pins and Generac may have changed the carb type from the Huayi Carb that my model has at some point past 2012. Check out this site (not mine) which has a wealth of info on this entire issue: home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/
@andres30966 жыл бұрын
How you can tell when your carb is leaking? , I'm asking because mine trow a lot of dark smoke and I don't know if that's the problem help please
@joesgarage89536 жыл бұрын
The carb on my model used to leak because the metal needle would get stuck in the valve due to metal corrosion on the needle itself due to ethanol / gas mix. The result was not dark smoke -- gasoline would literally pour out if the top of the carb somewhere and flow down until it came off the bottom of the carb bowl and all over the ground. So your problem is probably not leaking carb. Dark smoke usually means your air-fuel mix is way too rich. This can be due to dirty or poorly adjusted carb, dirty air filter or some combination of these.
@jeffflowers7296 жыл бұрын
I have the Troy Bilt version of this generator with the same engine/carb. I inherited mine from a neighbor who moved away and just said it doesn't run. Anyway... I also discovered that turning the fuel on my carb would also flood. The solenoid could stop flooding if it were working correctly. Mine doesn't because it's not powered or not operating correctly. I don't think your solenoid is working properly either. I tried to freeze the video to verify but couldn't see. When the solenoid is NOT powered, engine off just stored, it should be extended to stop fuel flow to the jet. When it IS powered, it should retract allowing flow. On a bench test my solenoid needle extends when powered. This is wrong. Yours looks like it is retracted unpowered just like mine. Every youtube video on the subject of a carb solenoid shows that doing a bench test, powering retracts the needle. It just makes no sense that ours extends when powered and even more confusing, even extended it's not long enough to stop fuel flow. If it were our engines would not run. But it really is the job of the float/needle to stop fuel flow anyway. Think about how many small engine carbs don't have a solenoid. I realized watching youtube videos like yours that our carb is one of very few with that little spring on the needle. Except, mine didn't have a spring at all! So even with the float all the way up, the needle wasn't being pushed up enough to seal. I I think mine was at a shop by previous owner and they took the carb apart to diagnose and lost the spring and figured it wasn't needed since most don't have one. What I did was take a spring from a ball point click pen. Had to cut it trial and error to get the right tension but it works. I suspect it was really just your spring was worn since both needles have a rubber tip and the barrel was very clean. I think if you just gave the spring a little tug to stretch it a bit it may have solved your flooding issue. But kudos for finding that compatible Honda needle! with the new spring.... Edit: using the pen spring was short lived. started leaking again. After pricing out individual pieces, I just went with a complete aftermarket carb for $30.
@DiomedesArgos6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Flowers got a part number? I’m 2 years past the Honda polymer float swap and I’ve still got the issue. Luckily haven’t needed the generator.
@jeffflowers7296 жыл бұрын
I ordered if off Ebay. I forgot to test the solenoid before installing it but doesn't matter. There's no carb leak so the float/needle is doing it's job and the generator runs fine. I do use the shut off valve anyway for good measure. If you order this one, in the write up it says manual choke only, but I easily took the lever off the old carb and installed it on the new carb. It even had the screw ready and waiting for the lever to be mounted. Comes with gaskets and fuel filter. I did need a small hose clamp as nipple on the carb is smaller diameter and to cut the existing fuel line to install the filter. If the link doesn't work it's item number 272884557267 and the seller is autoparts688. Good luck! www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-Fits-Troy-Bilt-XP-30477-030477-Pulsar-PG10000-PG10000T-Gas-Generator/272884557267?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
@paulmuller14437 жыл бұрын
what size motor and make got model#
@paulmuller14437 жыл бұрын
hope your still around i got the exact same problem now i have a number for the neddle. the generator i'm working on has no markings for the motor so i need a bowl gasket and gasket for the carb to a/f housing got any numbers i can use thanks
@chrisperkins57217 жыл бұрын
Thank you I goofed and had to replace gaskets and now struggling with a carb leak. Will order a Honda pin and make the change while I clean it all out. Appreciate the video!
@genecoppola44207 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, ordered the Honda part today..
@kungfu2toe7 жыл бұрын
Its e10 and drying out the rubber hydroscopic e10
@genecoppola44207 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, what's up with the doll?
@netgeni597 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this detailed video. I was able to use it for reference to disassemble my carb for cleaning and get my generator started again.
@jted687 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was very helpful in diagnosing the same leak on my generator. It is a Honeywell branded 5500 unit....actually a Generac. Everything on mine looks exactly like your unit. I bought this generator in 2012 having no issues until yesterday. If I observe corrosion on the needle, I will take your advice and replace it with the Honda part. I also found a source for non-oxygenated gasoline in my area....all my small engines and motorcycle now run on that fuel. Thanks again for your video, it will save me a lot of hassle.
@mafelkins7 жыл бұрын
I WOUNDER if it stayed fixed?
@joesgarage89537 жыл бұрын
Just a note that since I replaced the float needle with the plastic part, it has not become stuck due to corrosion issues for 2+ years.
@DiomedesArgos6 жыл бұрын
Joe's Garage thanks for the video. Followed the same procedure and unfortunately 2 years later I’m in the same boat again with a leaking carb. I wonder if a full Honda carb would work.
@joesgarage89536 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Mine is STILL going fine with the plastic float needle in there. Maybe open your up and see what is causing it to stick now. If you used a plastic needle in there, I don't see how that part could corrode.
@oneangrycanadian62055 жыл бұрын
Of course then won’t own up lol. Seems a lot of people have this problem and it is dangerous. For the cost of a simple pin that’s non corrosive You would think the would own up and send a fix the cheap bastards.
@billcort84937 жыл бұрын
thanks very thanks nice and step by step good
@joesgarage89537 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Hope you are able to fix your carb. Note that models newer than mine (after 2013) may have better carbs that might have the issue fixed.
@billcort84937 жыл бұрын
my is model DEWALT DG300B HAVE SAME OF YOUR carb the part arrive today so tomorrow starts to work lol thanks
@archiedoughman53297 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much in your very informative and educated info regarding Carburetor, now I know how to repair/fix my GenSet, thanks a lot and God Bless
@ToanNguyen-oz9ee8 жыл бұрын
where r u order oem Honda parts . Can u post the web site for us Thanks
@skilltech23574 жыл бұрын
www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/part/universal/525554 will this one work?
@easternripple8 жыл бұрын
Your video was really helpful. My carb was completely gunked due to my negligence. I've since cleaned & repaired it thanks to your guide. I will now be much more stringent with maintenance. The manual says to change oil every 100 hours. I haven't put mine to regular use yet in 2 years. How often do you change the oil if not in regular use? I'm still searching for a polymer pin with your supplied item #. The suppliers I've asked all said they are all metal pins & I have to buy a full repair kit. Still searching. Thanks for your time here, very helpful.
@esteban91949 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. I followed your instructions and it solved my problem perfectly.
@joesgarage89539 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Mine is still giving no problems after putting in the Honda part as well.
@JimmyDean19929 жыл бұрын
That's great. Mine has been pouring. It's a 2010. Will that pin work? I have 2-3ft of snow coming in 24 hours!
@joesgarage89539 жыл бұрын
You might want to look at Ken Vann's video too...much better of the disassembly. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXqGzNlvYbWpl84.html Also see his web site: home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ The part number I used is at 11:03 in my video. Ken Vann used some other part number and a metal pin, which is documented on his site. But he had good luck with it.
@JimmyDean19929 жыл бұрын
Okay thanks. Do you know if that needle will work with my year?
@joesgarage89539 жыл бұрын
JimmyDean1992 Not sure. I suspect Generac had the carb model changed at some point due to the leaks. Ken's site has some info on the carb model I think. Mine is around the same age as yours however so it might be the same.
@JimmyDean19929 жыл бұрын
Seems like they still have not fixed the problem. Checked with the company and there is no recall. So I just cleaned it for now to get me by and then I have to order the plastic one that Honda makes as a replacement.
@JimmyDean19929 жыл бұрын
Great video? Using the plastic Honda pin completely stops this issue for good?
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Thank you! My relatively new Champion Dual Fuel 4550 starting watt 3650 running watt has that exact problem! Fuel is just flowing out there when I start it. Must be the same makers, or same makers of the part. Now I know the issue at least! Thanks again! Well done!
Thanks for the tutorial. I took my carb apart and then used metal polish on the pin. I loaded a q-tip on my drill with some metal polish and the inside of the pin shaft. It worked!
Thanks for the video it help me fix mine 😊
I know this was 9 years ago. Just curious to know if it worked
That fuel you can remove ethanol fuel out of gasoline fuels that has it inside of it. By watching A video on KZread channel on how to that process step by step. If that's something you would be interested in learning how to do At home for your generator.,or even your lawnmower.& Etc. That's gasoline.,or even two stroke also known as 2 cycle fuel mixtures to.
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS!!! I bought a GP5500, It failed in less than 10 hours. Customer service did nothing despite it being a 100 percent design flaw. Seal failure allowed light rain to leak into the gas tank. rusted out. Cost $400 to replace. They don't care about their customers. The rust caused mine to stick and it flooded all over the back of my truck.
Sept 2022 Hurricane Ian watch this video an you saved the day thank you!!
Glad to hear that - hoping for a speedy recovery for you
Fixed the leak on my generator but the generator won't start. Should I check the spark plug? Fuel is running thru the system.
I'm having this exact same problem with my Generac generator. Thank you so much!
I have called everywhere and under that part number, the float pins in stock are the metal ones. No one seems to have polymer float needles. Where did you order your's Sir? Could you post your source, please?
Good information about this particular carburetor issue. For those with less mechanical aptitude please use the correct terminology for the hardware involved to avoid confusion.
This happened to my 2020 Indian motorcycle, not happy about it
Great video. We took apart our same generator and the tip of the float needle was all gummed up. We installed a new needle and no more gass leak. Thank you for the terrific information. Two thumbs up!! A++ info.
Did you use a Honda or original Generac float
Will that same pin work for a general 6500?.
You mean for a Generac GP6500? Maybe. It depends on the carburetor shipped with that model and the model revision. Mine has a Huayi Standard of Japan carburetor. I bought my GP5500 back in 2011 or so. I believe that Generac has replaced the carb model in later models of generators so it might no longer be the same.
I have the 5000 generac. It leaks out. I have not taken out carb. I will eventually have to take it apart.
Huge help, thank you! I just completed my first small engine repair job.
Also, I should add that I own a Champion Dual-Fuel unit from Costco. Looks exactly the same.
I replaced the needle with the Honda o e m - I cleaned the brass seat - and it still leaks a little- it’s not leaking from the bottom bolt - gas is coming out of the air cleaner so the Honda needle didn’t help me - that’s $ 23.00 spend for nothing
You probably need a full carb cleaning and test. The float itself might not be buoyant enough to push the pin into the seat with enough pressure to fully shut off the fuel. So you might need to replace that also.
I have a ETQ TG52T42 and I started mine up tonight to get it ready for the snow that is coming and sure enough it started to leak from the bowl. I'm going to buff mine tomorrow but I appreciate the video and hopefully it helped me pinpoint the problem.
Thanks for posting this video. I was able to clean and get it running. Yellow gunk covered everything. Only using Tru-Fuel from now on.
What would be the cost for taking it a shop[ for repair?
To clean the carb and replace the float pin? Depends on the labor rate as the parts are cheap. I think you are looking at 100-200 USD. But they might not want to put in a plastic needle.
@@joesgarage8953 Thanks, Joe. Seems a plastic needle would never get corroded. Thanks
Great Info. My Powermate generator had the same issue. It fixed it and yes.... it dumps an excessive amount of fuel all over the place if not repaired. Thanks.
stabil is the problem, That stuff kills engine parts
I have a 4000 Watt generator I bought used $40 it leaks around the same area
Mine didn't just leak it POURED out in a 4 day outage :( . I'm going to try taking it apart from the bottom first as it seems much easier to me. Either way they took the solenoid off but I do understand more chance of stripping it. May as well change the oil while I'm fixing it...........better find a you tube for that too, lol.
Excellent diagnosis... great part substitution... looks like a long term fix
I have a lowes version of that generator, bought it around 2007 after a large storm in the Chicago area knocked out my area for about 9 days. Threw in a 220 breaker and backfed the breaker box,(yes I killed the main) it was great having one of the few houses fully powered, while the rest of the neighborhood was dark. It ran for about 5 or 6 days non stop. After the outage was fixed,I put stabilizer in and ran for a bit and cut the fuel and ran the carb dry. Since then I've started it a couple times a year with fresh fuel and stabilizer, then ran it dry. I've only needed the generator 2 or 3 times for short outages, but I developed the same issue and of course it happened when I was going to need it. I'm in Tennessee now, our neighborhood is getting new power lines and poles, so I pulled it out of the shed to get ready,filled it with gas, and it was pouring out the carb. I ran across this video looking up the carb, I was curious what I was going to see inside the carb, I haven't tinkered with small engines in years, long before selonoids we're on them. I was able to give it a good cleaning and it worked for now, but will order the parts and have them on hand if it happens again. I'm beginning to think it's better to leave the carb bowl full of stabilized fuel when stored,as from the random videos I've seen, most of them stated they also ran them dry for storage.
Let me ask....this guy in this other vid...... also speaks about a fuel leak for Generac....but only dis-assembles the float bowl from the bottom, and doesn't disturb the upper part of the carb body where all the delicate linkages are that you took apart and had to be so very careful to get back together. This other guy also fixed it in another way simply cleaning the pin channel with a Q-tip and did not replace the metal pin with a plastic Honda part. Maybe the best of both worlds is to marry your guy's 2 vids---> kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqOj19SHdZrflLw.html. His "take-apart" with your plastic pin suggestion......
Wil, the problem with mine was that the shaft of the float pin had a spot of corrosion, which made it get stuck in the extremely tight tolerance of the pin channel you speak of. So cleaning the pin channel wold have done nothing to fix the issue for my machine. That other video might be a good quick fix for just a dirty carb. I actually fixed mine three times with the last being the content of my video. The first time, I replaced the corroded metal pin. The pin corroded again, and I fixed it a second time by buffing the corroded spot off the pin shaft. However it started corroding again after this and stuck again. The third (and final time by the way as it is still good over three years later) is by taking the metal pin problem out of the equation and putting a compatible plastic pin in there as apparently was done on the similar Honda carb. Keep in mind that I always use fresh fuel with stabilizer. So the metal pins used for the carbs, and the replacement ones on the market must not tolerate ethanol-gasoline fuels. No such problems with the plastic pin. Also note that I think Generac quietly fixed this problem in later models.
Appreciate your detailed response. I think we're on the same page. The point missed perhaps is one could access the pin and replace it with a simpler approach by removing the float bowl from below as the other guy did in the other, listed video. If you watched his complete video, he gets to the float and the pin and holds the pin in his hand. No doubt plastic vs repeated metal corrosion is a better fix. Lastly....how did Generac fix the later models.....do you know?...did they use a different metal alloy for the pin that is less prone to corrosion?
I agree that would be a simpler way. One thing I caution on is when removing the solenoid from the bottom of the float bowl, it is very easy to strip the brass cross-head screws that hold that in place. These are screwed in tight. Without taking the carb completely off, it may strip more easily since you cannot apply as much firm pressure with the carb still mounted. (YMMV). Also, you cannot inspect the parts as easily. I do not know for sure about later models. Only that there were far fewer reports online and at the BBU that there were leaks due to stuck pins and Generac may have changed the carb type from the Huayi Carb that my model has at some point past 2012. Check out this site (not mine) which has a wealth of info on this entire issue: home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/
How you can tell when your carb is leaking? , I'm asking because mine trow a lot of dark smoke and I don't know if that's the problem help please
The carb on my model used to leak because the metal needle would get stuck in the valve due to metal corrosion on the needle itself due to ethanol / gas mix. The result was not dark smoke -- gasoline would literally pour out if the top of the carb somewhere and flow down until it came off the bottom of the carb bowl and all over the ground. So your problem is probably not leaking carb. Dark smoke usually means your air-fuel mix is way too rich. This can be due to dirty or poorly adjusted carb, dirty air filter or some combination of these.
I have the Troy Bilt version of this generator with the same engine/carb. I inherited mine from a neighbor who moved away and just said it doesn't run. Anyway... I also discovered that turning the fuel on my carb would also flood. The solenoid could stop flooding if it were working correctly. Mine doesn't because it's not powered or not operating correctly. I don't think your solenoid is working properly either. I tried to freeze the video to verify but couldn't see. When the solenoid is NOT powered, engine off just stored, it should be extended to stop fuel flow to the jet. When it IS powered, it should retract allowing flow. On a bench test my solenoid needle extends when powered. This is wrong. Yours looks like it is retracted unpowered just like mine. Every youtube video on the subject of a carb solenoid shows that doing a bench test, powering retracts the needle. It just makes no sense that ours extends when powered and even more confusing, even extended it's not long enough to stop fuel flow. If it were our engines would not run. But it really is the job of the float/needle to stop fuel flow anyway. Think about how many small engine carbs don't have a solenoid. I realized watching youtube videos like yours that our carb is one of very few with that little spring on the needle. Except, mine didn't have a spring at all! So even with the float all the way up, the needle wasn't being pushed up enough to seal. I I think mine was at a shop by previous owner and they took the carb apart to diagnose and lost the spring and figured it wasn't needed since most don't have one. What I did was take a spring from a ball point click pen. Had to cut it trial and error to get the right tension but it works. I suspect it was really just your spring was worn since both needles have a rubber tip and the barrel was very clean. I think if you just gave the spring a little tug to stretch it a bit it may have solved your flooding issue. But kudos for finding that compatible Honda needle! with the new spring.... Edit: using the pen spring was short lived. started leaking again. After pricing out individual pieces, I just went with a complete aftermarket carb for $30.
Jeff Flowers got a part number? I’m 2 years past the Honda polymer float swap and I’ve still got the issue. Luckily haven’t needed the generator.
I ordered if off Ebay. I forgot to test the solenoid before installing it but doesn't matter. There's no carb leak so the float/needle is doing it's job and the generator runs fine. I do use the shut off valve anyway for good measure. If you order this one, in the write up it says manual choke only, but I easily took the lever off the old carb and installed it on the new carb. It even had the screw ready and waiting for the lever to be mounted. Comes with gaskets and fuel filter. I did need a small hose clamp as nipple on the carb is smaller diameter and to cut the existing fuel line to install the filter. If the link doesn't work it's item number 272884557267 and the seller is autoparts688. Good luck! www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-Fits-Troy-Bilt-XP-30477-030477-Pulsar-PG10000-PG10000T-Gas-Generator/272884557267?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
what size motor and make got model#
hope your still around i got the exact same problem now i have a number for the neddle. the generator i'm working on has no markings for the motor so i need a bowl gasket and gasket for the carb to a/f housing got any numbers i can use thanks
Thank you I goofed and had to replace gaskets and now struggling with a carb leak. Will order a Honda pin and make the change while I clean it all out. Appreciate the video!
Thanks Joe, ordered the Honda part today..
Its e10 and drying out the rubber hydroscopic e10
Thanks Joe, what's up with the doll?
Thank you very much for posting this detailed video. I was able to use it for reference to disassemble my carb for cleaning and get my generator started again.
Thank you. That was very helpful in diagnosing the same leak on my generator. It is a Honeywell branded 5500 unit....actually a Generac. Everything on mine looks exactly like your unit. I bought this generator in 2012 having no issues until yesterday. If I observe corrosion on the needle, I will take your advice and replace it with the Honda part. I also found a source for non-oxygenated gasoline in my area....all my small engines and motorcycle now run on that fuel. Thanks again for your video, it will save me a lot of hassle.
I WOUNDER if it stayed fixed?
Just a note that since I replaced the float needle with the plastic part, it has not become stuck due to corrosion issues for 2+ years.
Joe's Garage thanks for the video. Followed the same procedure and unfortunately 2 years later I’m in the same boat again with a leaking carb. I wonder if a full Honda carb would work.
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Mine is STILL going fine with the plastic float needle in there. Maybe open your up and see what is causing it to stick now. If you used a plastic needle in there, I don't see how that part could corrode.
Of course then won’t own up lol. Seems a lot of people have this problem and it is dangerous. For the cost of a simple pin that’s non corrosive You would think the would own up and send a fix the cheap bastards.
thanks very thanks nice and step by step good
You're welcome. Hope you are able to fix your carb. Note that models newer than mine (after 2013) may have better carbs that might have the issue fixed.
my is model DEWALT DG300B HAVE SAME OF YOUR carb the part arrive today so tomorrow starts to work lol thanks
Thank you very much in your very informative and educated info regarding Carburetor, now I know how to repair/fix my GenSet, thanks a lot and God Bless
where r u order oem Honda parts . Can u post the web site for us Thanks
www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/part/universal/525554 will this one work?
Your video was really helpful. My carb was completely gunked due to my negligence. I've since cleaned & repaired it thanks to your guide. I will now be much more stringent with maintenance. The manual says to change oil every 100 hours. I haven't put mine to regular use yet in 2 years. How often do you change the oil if not in regular use? I'm still searching for a polymer pin with your supplied item #. The suppliers I've asked all said they are all metal pins & I have to buy a full repair kit. Still searching. Thanks for your time here, very helpful.
Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. I followed your instructions and it solved my problem perfectly.
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Mine is still giving no problems after putting in the Honda part as well.
That's great. Mine has been pouring. It's a 2010. Will that pin work? I have 2-3ft of snow coming in 24 hours!
You might want to look at Ken Vann's video too...much better of the disassembly. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXqGzNlvYbWpl84.html Also see his web site: home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ The part number I used is at 11:03 in my video. Ken Vann used some other part number and a metal pin, which is documented on his site. But he had good luck with it.
Okay thanks. Do you know if that needle will work with my year?
JimmyDean1992 Not sure. I suspect Generac had the carb model changed at some point due to the leaks. Ken's site has some info on the carb model I think. Mine is around the same age as yours however so it might be the same.
Seems like they still have not fixed the problem. Checked with the company and there is no recall. So I just cleaned it for now to get me by and then I have to order the plastic one that Honda makes as a replacement.
Great video? Using the plastic Honda pin completely stops this issue for good?
Excellent Video! Thanks!