I had the idea for this channel while on lock down during Covid-19. I have always been a petrol head and I love nothing more than a throbbing V8 or a screaming V10. I have worked in the motor trade for many years and back in 2013 I drove my first fully electric car. Yes it was only a Mitsubishi i-Miev, but I was immediately impressed at how quickly it could leap off at traffic lights, and having a 40 mile commute every day, it cost next to nothing to run. Very soon I became an EV convert.
This channel is about doing real world reviews on electric cars with real time footage of pulling up to a public charge post for the first time and seeing how easy (or hard) it is to start a charge.
If any manufacturer or dealership would like to loan me a car for a few days to do a thorough real world review and range test, please contact me at [email protected]
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I won’t compromise on security (fogged up windows) for the sake of range.
I suspect 'charger rage' will become more common place as more people buy electric and the charging network increases at a rate that fails to keep up.
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I find that driving at 100km/h compared to 120km/h on longer journeys saves me a charging stop. The few minutes you save by flogging it is very quickly eaten up 😂😂
Looking to upgrade my current Kia soul first edition. So this was a great watch
I'm thinking about buying one of these beauties, 2nd hand for 20k with 30.000 kms in it. Can someone help me out with a doubt I have... some CCS chargers are, nowadays, 160, 70, high charging speeds, in these chargers that are price per kWh do I pay only what my car can charge like the Honda E 30 to 46kws tops or does one pay the "full speed" the charger announces?
You’ll pay for the energy you use, not the speed it goes in.
Took my Manager home a few times in the first CX I had ,.She said exactly the same thing about the comfort of the seat. She did not want to get out.
Great review, I have owned 3 CX's , 2 BX's and a XM. Citroen are known for their ride comfort.
i am looking at the e 208 for my 70mi commute on highway about 5 times a month...... how do you think the car will handle the range on highway at 70mph
I’m surprised you suggest the first 19miles is the most efficient. Coming from Torquay to Exeter you have to face a lot of 60-70mph roads , all up and down between Newton and Exeter ( unless going old dawlish road) I find is the most less efficient section before reaching the M5 after telegraph hill , unless this is the point you took your reading after regen on the hill section of telegraph Also with the Tesla open network now, you could of saved on charging cost by nearly “half”
My energy tariff at home is 25p a kilowatt. How how do Instavolt get 75 pence and they’re not even on a motorway? Yes they have to turn a profit and they have costs but this seems excessive. If this was the petrol companies there’d be an enquiry
Didn't get the weather report!
My partner is looking at the e 208 for her commuter car. Round journey of 80miles on duel carriageways 3 days a week. How do you think the e208 will hold up in winter?
Winter with the heater on, on my personal commute, I get 160 miles. Summer same commute, 200 miles.
wheel in its lowest position fully extended tends to cause friction burns on the old wedding tackle!
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A better result than expected. About 3.4-3.5 miles/kwh overall on a less windy day? About 160 miles max range. Which is 2 hours+ of driving plus a small buffer and time for a break anyway. The upgraded version coming out this year is supposed to be more economical due to a heatpump keeping the battery at the optimum temperature.
So with aerodynamics and temperatures that isn’t bad. MPV version of that is about the same. I could do with bigger battery than have on my e up. Probably Stellantis Group car.
Looks like a very smooth and comfortable ride! Would you recommend it as my first EV? Will mostly be used for work commutes (20 km each way), rarely much longer distances. Will be replacing a 2015 Yaris Hybrid.
Yes, it’s a great starter EV. Great commuting car, and it will also do longer journeys.
@@chargeelectric9905 Thank you! I can get a practically new 2023 GT model for 27 800-ish USD right now, which is a steal around here. So I might just pull the trigger.
@@chargeelectric9905 I just pulled the trigger 😁
@@tommyb9711 Did the same with an 2020 GT. Cannot wait for it to arrive now :D
@@colinwiseman You won't be disappointed! I'm really loving this car!
Hmmm, 300 miles on my '83 Mercedes 300TD 5 cyl diesel. Heater about 80-83F in shirt sleeves. I won't have to stop if I try, out and back...
Was that the same vehicle you tested? as there were changes made to the drivetrain and heat pump efficiency was improved on later models
Yes, it was the exact same car about a week after the first range test.
@@chargeelectric9905 Many thanks.
It actually does tell you when you’re using less than the max i-Pedal setting. On the dash, in the bottom of the right-hand dial, there’s a little tick mark that lets you know the setting, up to the maximum (which is i-pedal). I just purchased the EV model and I love it!
I have this car the range on this is shocking bad gets no where near 350 km except on the back of a tow truck
None of these electric cars have the range they claim. I know ppl who own ev cars and a lot of them are frustrated with the lies they were told. During winter a lot of the folks I know at work who own ev, told me they don’t even get anywhere near 210km. The heating and AC kills the battery and other thing’s amongst just those two. They’re a big waste of money just to say you own a cool electric car, and that you “care” about the environment. When they figure out their battery issues and distance I’ll give a try, but no way am I paying thousands for a car that cant even give me at least 800km. Imagine having to stop several times to charge a car. Smh
well done, great review, thanks. Very close to ordering this car.
KIa have a software stop on rapid charging; if you wanted that extra 3%, you have to unplug and replug; it used to be about 84%, but they upped it to 97% sometime in the last 18 months; and it seems to be common across a range of Kia and Hyundai EVs, as my 2016 Soul's limit is now 97%. It does also vary on the SOC when you started, if the battery has above a certain %, it wont stop (I forget exactly what that % is) I did a 270+ mile trip to Manchester and back, a couple of weeks ago, and averaged 5.1 miles/KWh; cruising at 60-65mph in heavy traffic; obviously, with a ~92 mile original range, I had to charge 3 times; but one was a destination charger, so didnt cost me any time; the other two took 15 & 20 minutes, charging to 80%; the 20 minutes was via a fairly old BP Pulse charger that gives a max of 50KW, but only seemed to be giving 45 ish. I'm not sure about the new Soul, but on my old 2016 model, it doesnt matter if you only choose DC chargers on the KIA satnav - it will display both - and there is no way to filter out private chargers, or sort Rapid from Fast or Slow chargers - which is UTTERLY STUPID.
In the real world whenever anyone comes home on a trip they refuel. Really this is doing really great
I wish i found you sooner. This is what everyone wants to know about each specific ev. Thank u
Using the active cruise control is also more efficient than drivng manually.
Really good review...I have just leased this car on the strength of it without even taking one for a test drive! And I have no regrets whatsoever, it's a brilliant car and your observations are spot-on. Thank you!
Question. My e-c4 does 1.2 mil/kw when the heaters on for normal mode. Is there a something wrong with it? Anyone knows
It does seem a bit low. But a lot will depend on heat setting and journey type. I’m currently running an e-208, and this winter running with climate set to 21 degrees C, I’m averaging 3.3 mi/kwh. But my daily journey type could be very different to yours.
Front door looks different colour white to me
No usb ports on front seats?
Halfway mark and your average speed is 78 ish kph. Hardly any good for a road trip that you’d be wanting an average of 100 kph. So, not a real test. For any ICE, I’d be wanting to get to my destination as quickly as legal whilst keeping the fuel economy low and often beating the car makers official lowest average for litres per hundred kilometres.
I was driving to the speed limits where ever I could. It was a real test of a route I used to do when I was self employed. I know everyone drives different routes as everyone leads different lives and lives in different areas. It was a real test of that route on that particular day.
@@chargeelectric9905 Yes I understand this part as you made it clear from the beginning. All I was thinking about was a different, more realistic scenario. As you mentioned it was a route that you hadn’t taken in over a decade. This part alone made it unrealistic. Something better would be a route you do several times a year as from a buyers perspective this provides real value as we will all be making the transition to a non ICE vehicle at some stage in the near future. For the Australian market the prediction is by 2025 all new cars sold will be 50% electric and our charging network is well behind where it needs to be to cope with this prediction. Hence the reason for my original comment. A great video that I enjoyed watching just the same as an owner of a 23 Kia EV6 GT. 👍😎🇦🇺
😂range anxiety ffs,how much does it cost for 180 miles?
Its hard to hear you
29 hours ! why would anyone choose this over a 2 min fuel stop ?
Essai très intéressant. Pour avoir une e-c4 depuis 6 mois je confirme les valeurs constatées. Ce véhicule parfaitement adapté aux trajets quotidiens domicile travail est egalement adapté, grace à sa charge DC de 100kw aux trajets autoroutiers périodique. Il est confortable et permet une conduite apaisée.
13:12 omg I thought National speed limit was 70!!😮
9:21 that noise Sounds sweeeeet ❤
6:09 Sorry to myder I’m thinking of getting one - iPedal- or lower regen levels- when you take foot off and regen kicks in do the brake lights come on? Without pressing the brake, when you release foot off accelerator do the brake lights come on? Always wondered - had diff answers ? Thanks
It’s been a month so you probably no the answer but I’ll answer: yes, I was able to see the brake lights go off in the reflection of the car behind me and I pressed the accelerator.
4:18 Seat covers shopping for that would be fun 😅 What’s the reasoning/purpose of that shape? Thanks 🙏
2:14 Scuse ignorance but is it set up on a diff platform to the 70plate hybrid? I loved that car, especially the ride height- is the ride height same or lower or higher do you know than that? Tia
1:15 ❤ Execeterrrrrrr
It's the same with heat pumps,they are being pushed really hard but until they are cheaper to run and a lot cheaper to buy then no one is going to willingly get one and the government wasting tax payers money to incentives people is criminal
Looking at buying a two year old one of these, it’s £16k….would you recommend?
Yes I would. Very comfortable, not bad looking. Also consider its sister car the Peugeot e-2008. This feels a bit more solid and is a bit more practical in the back and boot.
The 2008 is coming out at about 1/2k more for a 2 year older model though 🤷🏻♂️
Can you remember the temperature on the two journeys? You had been running the car before you started the second test and was presumably warmed up? Cheers.
The temperature if memory serves, was between 8 degrees and 13.
e.C4 hs new battery and engin too :)
Over the years the years they have done the same with diesel, Lpg and now electric. ps currently have a 12 plate diesel soul 38 mpg round black country recently dropped to around 35 in cold and merry hill shoppers but £60 for 3 weeks 300 mile in tra15 ffic. but have been watching Kia some interesting things coming. May be a while till I get one on the used market. I did see one like your test think it was a 15 plate for £15k.
Is it 2023/2024 version of a car ?
It is the 2022 model.
I phoned up the wife and told her about the McMuffin. She was shocked and disgusted about your lifestyle choices ;)
So it was you! 😆
Any heat on in the car? Looks a bit cold! Thanks for the range test though; really useful!
I had the heater on while charging first thing in the morning, then turned it off when I left. The drop in temperature inside the car was so gradual I didn’t really notice. I just used the heater when on the chargers. I was quite comfortable for most of the journey.
@@chargeelectric9905 I could see your breath in the air at one point 😂
good review i currently drive a kia ev6 but i intend to down size in the next year or so with a dodgy hip I'm thinking of the niro or the e2008 so hopefully you'll get around to reviewing those in the near future. regarding the queuing to charge if there was a black board where you have to enter your car reg on arrival would it bring some order. i don't like the exmas music either my grandkids call me the grinch