I couldn’t hardly hear a difference wow that’s crazy
@modelcitizen197711 күн бұрын
I've used a U87 in the studio. Tube mics, planar ribbon mics, you name it. With a few EQ tweaks, you can make a $100 AKG Perception 220 sound exactly like either of these. Spending more than $100-$200 on a large diaphragm condenser is stupid.
@MatthewBarelick15 күн бұрын
The original U47 I can hear a very tiny difference in the mids and highs but the difference is so minor that I think it could be corrected in the studio so that's why I just picked up 4 of the wa47
@irishRocker117 күн бұрын
I see the eleven rack in the background. Do you still get much use out of it? I'm kinda moving away from mine mainly cos support in windows sucks. eleven rack editor doesnt work anymore, even after fresh installs I just get a blank window. sometimes its not recognised in windows etc. Just showing its age basically. Reason im looking at an SSL video is cos I think i will replace the 11R
@Rv_Music10817 күн бұрын
@@irishRocker1 I only use the eleven rack for getting quick guitar sounds when recording. I just plug the output from the 11 rack into a line input on the SSL interface. I’ve never tried to use any eleven rack software. I have a couple presets that I like and it allows me to plug and play quickly.
@thecoycooter19 күн бұрын
I had bought a wa73 and sending it back for exactly what you hear here, how it chokes the top end
@TheMelodyGod21 күн бұрын
The sound in the video is the worst brother. Sheesh
@Wilmer77825 күн бұрын
I did a test once on a YT channel of mine that doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately. Remember EVERYBODY hating on the Focusrite Twintrak Pro mic preamp 'back in the day'? I got myself an ISA after having worked with pleasure with the Twintrak. I bought myself a Focusrite ISA, because... "it sounds better", according to "the best ears in th world" (LOL!!!). Well, I made a video and it got a couple of thousand views. I recorded both my guitar and vocals (same signal!!!!) through the Twintrak and the ISA and in the video I showed the processed and the unprocessed results and everyone (OF COURSE!!!) favoured the ISA!! "ISA sounds so much clearer"... "night and day difference" and whatever kinda bollocks they're commenting underneath the video and why did I say "bollocks"???? Well, because I was the only person who knew that, when they saw an on screen picture of the Twintrak, they're actually listening to the ISA and vice versa!! :O :O :O Only ONE out of hundreds of comments said: "oh wow!! That Twintrak sounds pretty damn good!!" ONLY ONE!! I senbt him a PM telling him it's actually the ISA he's listening to, but everybody else... let me stop right here, you know what I mean by now. After this test (and another one I did with my Mesa Boogie amp vs Line6 POD 2.0, same thing... vice versa) I stopped caring about what people are saying about a certain piece of gear. They all know best, but the facts proved them WRONG and it's my own bloody test(s)... :P EDIT: I think that, when people know they're listening to the Neumann, their brain's instantly gonna search for what sounds best about it and then, when they listen to the Warm, it's "vice versa" again. The people listening to these examples probably don't even know their brain's doing this to them and their final opinion about a particular piece of gear. LOL
@Rv_Music10819 күн бұрын
@@Wilmer778 haha wow, thanks for that story! I agree and personally don’t hear much of a difference at all. 🤷. There is definitely a psychological angle to it. Gear these days is good enough. No need to spend 10’s of thousands to record music. If you want to, more power to you.
@BojanBojovicАй бұрын
Like some church video, so many religious people in there comments hearing and seeing magic somehow. 😃
@williangalvao8127Ай бұрын
Really good man!
@Rv_Music108Ай бұрын
@@williangalvao8127 Thank you!
@AlexSoundFXАй бұрын
There is a difference... I actually prefer WA-47 here. U47 is a bad choice for strumming anyway.
@PietroFGRealАй бұрын
Slightly off topic question... What interface are you (or rather: were you using prior to the ssl 12) using to feed the ssl summing mixer?
@Rv_Music108Ай бұрын
@@PietroFGReal There was an apogee symphony before. Although i’m not sure if the previous setup was ever fully functional.
@PietroFGRealАй бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the results mate!
@DiosteestaBuscando2 ай бұрын
_// Thanks for sharing the video! Let me tell you something important: God loves you! God loves us ! He is no respecter of persons! because God wants us all to be saved! and let's go to the knowledge of the “Truth” God wants to save us from eternal damnation, which we all deserve because of sin, who entered the world through Adam, and death entered through sin, and thus death passed to all human beings, Therefore, we are all “Sinners” But God's Love was so great for us, that he sent his only Son (Jesus Christ), gave him to this world, to die and rise for all of us! No Respect of Persons! so that everyone who believes in Jesus Christ does not go to eternal punishment, but rather has “Eternal Life!” “ Jesus Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures; and he was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures Jesus Christ came to call sinners to “Repentance! “ and, he who believes in Him, has “Eternal Life! “But whoever refuses to believe in Jesus Christ, the wrath of God remains on him. Then, as through Adam's transgression, condemnation came to all human beings, in the same way, through the justice of Jesus Christ, justification of life came to all human beings! All of us who believe in The Only Savior of the world! The Only Mediator between God and us! The Lord Jesus Christ! The son of God! All of us who trust in Him; we have “Eternal Life! “ And we must know that there is salvation in no one else; because there is no other name under heaven, given to human beings, in which we can be saved. Only by Believing/Trusting in “Jesus Christ” can we be Saved! But Jesus Christ also said: Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Therefore, we must be doers of the Word of God! and not only listeners and/or readers, deceiving ourselves. So let's read the Word of God! There is His Will! what God wants us to do! Let us read mainly the Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and let us pray to God, our Heavenly Father, all the days of the life that He gave us! God loves you! God loves us! To Him alone be the Glory Forever! Amen! Bible Source: Acts 10:34-35 / 1 Timothy 2:3-6 / Romans 5:12 / John 3:16 / 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 / Luke 5:32 / John 3:36 / Romans 5:18 / John 6:47 / Acts 4:12 / Matthew 7:21 / James 1:22 /|]l
@RegebroRepairs2 ай бұрын
Any difference is likely because they aren't in exactly the same position, or just differences from one mic to another. The positioning makes just as much difference as the mic.
@victordiaz772 ай бұрын
The 2020 is for home studio, the tlm103 is professional
@PoulLarsenmusic2 ай бұрын
If he is holding a glass of juice like its a drink. A real friend would talk to him about it and at least ask how he is doing
@Rv_Music1082 ай бұрын
It was a mimosa! Lol. 😂
@chasekemp2 ай бұрын
with laptop speakers i cant tell the difference
@RunningRebels3 ай бұрын
Heard it on a pair of ATCs, Yeah the NEVE got a warmer body, but the warm sounds great a tiny bit ''harsh'' if i can say so.
@mbapppinhooo3 ай бұрын
Nice video dudE!
@andrewrice93833 ай бұрын
Warm 47 is really good, however, if I were doing a professional recording that is intended to stand the test of time for decades, I would most likely figure out a way to use a real Neumann 47
@Daniicecream_3 ай бұрын
better than Volt 476p by UA?
@Jelmerr3 ай бұрын
nice one :D
@JAO53JAO3 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff. As you acknowledge at the outset that the two 1956 models do not sound the same, it would be interesting to know if the WA47 sounded closer to the U47 than the other U47. ?? So, you ask if I could hear a difference - ever so slight, but sure. Could I pick it out if the mikes were used in two different songs - I doubt it. Does it really make any difference - absolutely not. There are so many other things going into a vocal recording that this very minor difference is not what I would be worried about. By the time EQ, Compression, and Reverb are applied and the vocal is run through Autotune and set in a mix, I am pretty sure no one could tell which mike is which. If the WA47 were $2,000 cheaper than the Neumann, it would make me seriously consider it over the real deal. Knowing it is possibly more than $10,000 (or more) cheaper than a 1956 U47 makes this discussion purely academic. No thinking for profit studio would waste the money here. Only if you bought the originals way back when they were the only game in town and still have them - only then is this a reasonable comparison - the real question is then "which would you use, not which you would buy". Otherwise, it is clear that that you would not put your money into buying a used original (well, maybe if you were just so wealthy that you could do anything you wished, but.....). Does not mean I would not want to own an original, but I would not buy one for its sound alone. I love these shoot-outs. Thanks,
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
Great comment! I tend to agree. It’s more the historical significance or rarity of a vintage U47 that gives it it’s charm and demand. As with most vintage gear the difference in sound is going to vary from unit to unit. Technology has gotten so good nowadays that it kind of doesn’t matter. Not to take away from legendary vintage gear. The remakes are gonna be slightly different. Better or worse? Who knows. Mostly negligible and not important in the grand scheme of creating art.
@TvAndroidMk33 ай бұрын
Português: Percebi que os graves abaixo de 200 Hz estão um tanto embolados e um pouco longos demais. Acredito que o Neumann possa ter um som mais limpo, com menos vibração em toda a sua extensão. Mas para os vocais parece estar ok. Inglês: I noticed that the bass frequencies below 200 Hz sound somewhat muddy and a bit too lengthy. I believe the Neumann might produce a cleaner sound with less vibration throughout its range. However, it seems fine for vocals.
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
Yep, the main difference was in the low end for sure. Nothing a high pass filter can’t tame.
@BobbyCrane3 ай бұрын
I feeeeel like a lil EQ bump, and saturation band on the 50-350hz could easily make these sound more comparable 👍🏼 I have a tlm 103 and I can’t justify buying it again if something that’s 100 bucks sounds this good!
@fcwy13 ай бұрын
Nice song! Love it for the demo! WOuld have loved to hear how it sounds with and without the 4k though.
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have an older video showing the 4k switch off and on but it’s not great. Perhaps I need to make another video showing that. 🤔
@trappa8883 ай бұрын
lol yall funny as hell im obviously missing something how tf is this good singing but if i say its bad im hating the world is crazy but it def sounds good mixing wise the pre amps do sound vey nice
@mangiatito3 ай бұрын
Do you suggest the Warm Audio WA-47 to recording a double bass (mozt pizzicato, jazz contest)?
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
I’m sure it would be great. The WA-47 should be good for capturing the low end frequencies
@BradsGonnaPlay4 ай бұрын
To potential buyers: don’t listen to the naysayers. Trust your ears, not their anonymous arrogance. You don’t need a Neve 1073 to make a phenomenal record. This will accomplish the *exact* job you’re buying it for. Edit: also look at all the blatant contradictions in their comments. Some are saying the high/low end is too harsh, while just as many others say there’s a lack of high/low end. If this were a double-blind test, a lot of these people wouldn’t know the Neve 1073 from a Universal Audio digital emulation. It’s all a bunch of hot air.
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
I tend to agree. A double blind test would be very interesting!
@krissheehy4 ай бұрын
Came back to this years later... Still love the performance so much!
@Rv_Music1083 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@yakucho81234 ай бұрын
For me the Neve is a bit Smoother an Natural sounding. But i just ordered an used WA73 EQ for 700 bucks. For that money its kindly to good compared to the neve. But hey. The last % is a big pricetag you have to spend. And im to broke for an Neve xD. Loved the Performance. I like how you sang it like "Telling a story" etc. Noth are great. Neve has this Legendary Status but you see a WA 73 in every Studio too... Its like you get 95% of the sound for just 900 bucks... I just using a dnx 286s at the moment and also planning to get an Klark Teknik KT-2A with an T4BLA opto. Im not even a singer or recorder. I just use it to talk on the Internet xD. I just LOVE Audio Gear and what people can do with it. I want it too! And you guys there kinda living my dream! Keep up the work!
@Rv_Music1084 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and the compliment!
@TheJonOsborne4 ай бұрын
Nice video! It's always sad to see an "engineer" who has not one but two vintage u47s and doesn't even know anything about the capsules, circuits, tube, etc. When he mentioned Vintage King that explained a lot, as they are infamous for selling $30k u47s without showing any internal pics and no description of the capsule that is in the mic they have "restored." A lot of people are getting Nuvistor scammed by VK. Do not trust that company and if you are buying a vintage u47 please do your research on what you're buying!
@danielnacrur11554 ай бұрын
Bela música e performance. Ambos tem um caráter vintage e soam bem. Neve vence, mas isso nao muda o que mais importa: gostar ou não da música. O microfone que está usando é um neumann u47 vintage ou um telefunken u47?
@CTG7114 ай бұрын
In this particular example, I cannot tell any difference between the two. Perhaps after engaging the EQ on both units there would be a more noticeable difference?
@Rv_Music1084 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe the eq sounds different. It’s be an interesting test. The eq on the warm is very colorful and musical. Definitely not a surgical eq but fun to play with.
@pikeysrock4 ай бұрын
Yeah, IMO TLM takes it.
@GiovanniNicotera5 ай бұрын
Has anyone tried it compared to the SSL 2+ ? Does the 12 have a better sound quality?
@Rv_Music1085 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s same preamps etc. in the 12 and the 2+. I haven’t tried them back to back but i’m sure the quality is identical
@drchristianhamilton-craig91865 ай бұрын
I also blinded myself and once doing so, they appeared very similar indeed (I agree with comments re mic placement and U47 having a bit more guitar level). If anything the vintage U47 may have been a tiny bit “smoother” in the mids but that was subtle. For the price, my money would be with the WA-47 (and with any luck I can one day compare to my friend Greg’s collection of U47’s and matching preamps!).
@shredder48415 ай бұрын
Neve is way better, not even close
@Capons_Place5 ай бұрын
For me it almost same but you can feel the brightness bump on the warm audio. Little more controlled bass and more overall “done” sound from the neve. Over all classic 1073 win here but with some little eq WA will sound 99 % same. So WA is the winder for the bucks. Great video! Great performance !!!🎉
@Rv_Music1085 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@bobcook5 ай бұрын
We were the distributor in Canada for Neumann in early 70’s. At the time the early models used a low voltage “peanut tube” that became hard to obtain after telefunken terminated production in mid 60’s. The new transistorized version was not as “warm” and exhibited a different sound according to the artists.. Eastern Sound in Toronto complained about the difference. Neumann did considerable research and found the difference was caused by a form of distortion. Caused by the tube amplifier. In fact they tried to reproduce the distortion but was unable. Finally they came to the conclusion the lack of distortion was due to the solid state amplifier. Curious to see if in fact this was a modified mic as we upgraded any U47/87 that was sent in for repair. Gotham Audio had the same complaints from their customers. A few kept their tube microphone for special use. FYI…. Bob Cook
@Rv_Music1085 ай бұрын
That’s a great question! I’m not sure if the U47 at Studios at Fischer has the original tube amp or the updated transistor. It definitely sounds great. Very interesting information, thank you for sharing.
@michaelbain64025 ай бұрын
WA 73 would sound great if not compared to the Neve. The Neve has a lot more body than the WA73.
@atav1k5 ай бұрын
I notice you have a lot of rack outboard gear. How do you manage tracking those devices without many outs and no ADAT out on the SSL 12.
@Rv_Music1085 ай бұрын
None of the gear in the desk is being used. The only outboard gear that I use is the wooden rack to the left. It has a power conditioner, 1073 style preamp, and an eleven rack that I occasionally use for recording electric guitar. The rest of the gear belongs to someone else who worked in the room previously.
@Rv_Music1085 ай бұрын
I’ve never used the feature but the SSL 12 does have ADAT in to control 8 more inputs via the software if you wanted to expand. I think it works with the Focusrite or SSl Octo preamps etc
@csilt6 ай бұрын
You should have multitracked so that the mics could have shared similar placement in relation to the sound source.
@ScrapesDaFleur6 ай бұрын
bringin it back! love the tune hahah
@Rv_Music1086 ай бұрын
Haha yep!, thank you:)
@kfk19886 ай бұрын
If I close my eyes, I can hear the switch over to the Neve, but not the switch back to the WA73. Weird! They both sounds great to me. Awesome video.
@sacalaitproductions72796 ай бұрын
There's something in the "T" and "S" sounds in the Warm piece that doesn't translate as nice as the Neve piece. I've learned this already on my WA73. It can be tweaked but those consonants are a slight problem. The Neve handles them better. But aside from that, they're very similar. Thanks for the comparison.
@DemoTVold6 ай бұрын
I listened on monitors and headphones and came to the conclusion that WA is better in every sense, including the absence of noise
@jasfordprodАй бұрын
trippin
@shure816 ай бұрын
Both sound good, and a good song by a good performer! Is the difference a $5,000 difference? Nope.
@DrumsterFire6 ай бұрын
Lodin was in his “drinking champagne because it tastes good” phase 😂. Don’t mind me, I come here when I want to listen to the song. Even though I have both wav files. 😅
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I couldn’t hardly hear a difference wow that’s crazy
I've used a U87 in the studio. Tube mics, planar ribbon mics, you name it. With a few EQ tweaks, you can make a $100 AKG Perception 220 sound exactly like either of these. Spending more than $100-$200 on a large diaphragm condenser is stupid.
The original U47 I can hear a very tiny difference in the mids and highs but the difference is so minor that I think it could be corrected in the studio so that's why I just picked up 4 of the wa47
I see the eleven rack in the background. Do you still get much use out of it? I'm kinda moving away from mine mainly cos support in windows sucks. eleven rack editor doesnt work anymore, even after fresh installs I just get a blank window. sometimes its not recognised in windows etc. Just showing its age basically. Reason im looking at an SSL video is cos I think i will replace the 11R
@@irishRocker1 I only use the eleven rack for getting quick guitar sounds when recording. I just plug the output from the 11 rack into a line input on the SSL interface. I’ve never tried to use any eleven rack software. I have a couple presets that I like and it allows me to plug and play quickly.
I had bought a wa73 and sending it back for exactly what you hear here, how it chokes the top end
The sound in the video is the worst brother. Sheesh
I did a test once on a YT channel of mine that doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately. Remember EVERYBODY hating on the Focusrite Twintrak Pro mic preamp 'back in the day'? I got myself an ISA after having worked with pleasure with the Twintrak. I bought myself a Focusrite ISA, because... "it sounds better", according to "the best ears in th world" (LOL!!!). Well, I made a video and it got a couple of thousand views. I recorded both my guitar and vocals (same signal!!!!) through the Twintrak and the ISA and in the video I showed the processed and the unprocessed results and everyone (OF COURSE!!!) favoured the ISA!! "ISA sounds so much clearer"... "night and day difference" and whatever kinda bollocks they're commenting underneath the video and why did I say "bollocks"???? Well, because I was the only person who knew that, when they saw an on screen picture of the Twintrak, they're actually listening to the ISA and vice versa!! :O :O :O Only ONE out of hundreds of comments said: "oh wow!! That Twintrak sounds pretty damn good!!" ONLY ONE!! I senbt him a PM telling him it's actually the ISA he's listening to, but everybody else... let me stop right here, you know what I mean by now. After this test (and another one I did with my Mesa Boogie amp vs Line6 POD 2.0, same thing... vice versa) I stopped caring about what people are saying about a certain piece of gear. They all know best, but the facts proved them WRONG and it's my own bloody test(s)... :P EDIT: I think that, when people know they're listening to the Neumann, their brain's instantly gonna search for what sounds best about it and then, when they listen to the Warm, it's "vice versa" again. The people listening to these examples probably don't even know their brain's doing this to them and their final opinion about a particular piece of gear. LOL
@@Wilmer778 haha wow, thanks for that story! I agree and personally don’t hear much of a difference at all. 🤷. There is definitely a psychological angle to it. Gear these days is good enough. No need to spend 10’s of thousands to record music. If you want to, more power to you.
Like some church video, so many religious people in there comments hearing and seeing magic somehow. 😃
Really good man!
@@williangalvao8127 Thank you!
There is a difference... I actually prefer WA-47 here. U47 is a bad choice for strumming anyway.
Slightly off topic question... What interface are you (or rather: were you using prior to the ssl 12) using to feed the ssl summing mixer?
@@PietroFGReal There was an apogee symphony before. Although i’m not sure if the previous setup was ever fully functional.
Looking forward to seeing the results mate!
_// Thanks for sharing the video! Let me tell you something important: God loves you! God loves us ! He is no respecter of persons! because God wants us all to be saved! and let's go to the knowledge of the “Truth” God wants to save us from eternal damnation, which we all deserve because of sin, who entered the world through Adam, and death entered through sin, and thus death passed to all human beings, Therefore, we are all “Sinners” But God's Love was so great for us, that he sent his only Son (Jesus Christ), gave him to this world, to die and rise for all of us! No Respect of Persons! so that everyone who believes in Jesus Christ does not go to eternal punishment, but rather has “Eternal Life!” “ Jesus Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures; and he was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures Jesus Christ came to call sinners to “Repentance! “ and, he who believes in Him, has “Eternal Life! “But whoever refuses to believe in Jesus Christ, the wrath of God remains on him. Then, as through Adam's transgression, condemnation came to all human beings, in the same way, through the justice of Jesus Christ, justification of life came to all human beings! All of us who believe in The Only Savior of the world! The Only Mediator between God and us! The Lord Jesus Christ! The son of God! All of us who trust in Him; we have “Eternal Life! “ And we must know that there is salvation in no one else; because there is no other name under heaven, given to human beings, in which we can be saved. Only by Believing/Trusting in “Jesus Christ” can we be Saved! But Jesus Christ also said: Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Therefore, we must be doers of the Word of God! and not only listeners and/or readers, deceiving ourselves. So let's read the Word of God! There is His Will! what God wants us to do! Let us read mainly the Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and let us pray to God, our Heavenly Father, all the days of the life that He gave us! God loves you! God loves us! To Him alone be the Glory Forever! Amen! Bible Source: Acts 10:34-35 / 1 Timothy 2:3-6 / Romans 5:12 / John 3:16 / 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 / Luke 5:32 / John 3:36 / Romans 5:18 / John 6:47 / Acts 4:12 / Matthew 7:21 / James 1:22 /|]l
Any difference is likely because they aren't in exactly the same position, or just differences from one mic to another. The positioning makes just as much difference as the mic.
The 2020 is for home studio, the tlm103 is professional
If he is holding a glass of juice like its a drink. A real friend would talk to him about it and at least ask how he is doing
It was a mimosa! Lol. 😂
with laptop speakers i cant tell the difference
Heard it on a pair of ATCs, Yeah the NEVE got a warmer body, but the warm sounds great a tiny bit ''harsh'' if i can say so.
Nice video dudE!
Warm 47 is really good, however, if I were doing a professional recording that is intended to stand the test of time for decades, I would most likely figure out a way to use a real Neumann 47
better than Volt 476p by UA?
nice one :D
Fascinating stuff. As you acknowledge at the outset that the two 1956 models do not sound the same, it would be interesting to know if the WA47 sounded closer to the U47 than the other U47. ?? So, you ask if I could hear a difference - ever so slight, but sure. Could I pick it out if the mikes were used in two different songs - I doubt it. Does it really make any difference - absolutely not. There are so many other things going into a vocal recording that this very minor difference is not what I would be worried about. By the time EQ, Compression, and Reverb are applied and the vocal is run through Autotune and set in a mix, I am pretty sure no one could tell which mike is which. If the WA47 were $2,000 cheaper than the Neumann, it would make me seriously consider it over the real deal. Knowing it is possibly more than $10,000 (or more) cheaper than a 1956 U47 makes this discussion purely academic. No thinking for profit studio would waste the money here. Only if you bought the originals way back when they were the only game in town and still have them - only then is this a reasonable comparison - the real question is then "which would you use, not which you would buy". Otherwise, it is clear that that you would not put your money into buying a used original (well, maybe if you were just so wealthy that you could do anything you wished, but.....). Does not mean I would not want to own an original, but I would not buy one for its sound alone. I love these shoot-outs. Thanks,
Great comment! I tend to agree. It’s more the historical significance or rarity of a vintage U47 that gives it it’s charm and demand. As with most vintage gear the difference in sound is going to vary from unit to unit. Technology has gotten so good nowadays that it kind of doesn’t matter. Not to take away from legendary vintage gear. The remakes are gonna be slightly different. Better or worse? Who knows. Mostly negligible and not important in the grand scheme of creating art.
Português: Percebi que os graves abaixo de 200 Hz estão um tanto embolados e um pouco longos demais. Acredito que o Neumann possa ter um som mais limpo, com menos vibração em toda a sua extensão. Mas para os vocais parece estar ok. Inglês: I noticed that the bass frequencies below 200 Hz sound somewhat muddy and a bit too lengthy. I believe the Neumann might produce a cleaner sound with less vibration throughout its range. However, it seems fine for vocals.
Yep, the main difference was in the low end for sure. Nothing a high pass filter can’t tame.
I feeeeel like a lil EQ bump, and saturation band on the 50-350hz could easily make these sound more comparable 👍🏼 I have a tlm 103 and I can’t justify buying it again if something that’s 100 bucks sounds this good!
Nice song! Love it for the demo! WOuld have loved to hear how it sounds with and without the 4k though.
Thank you! I have an older video showing the 4k switch off and on but it’s not great. Perhaps I need to make another video showing that. 🤔
lol yall funny as hell im obviously missing something how tf is this good singing but if i say its bad im hating the world is crazy but it def sounds good mixing wise the pre amps do sound vey nice
Do you suggest the Warm Audio WA-47 to recording a double bass (mozt pizzicato, jazz contest)?
I’m sure it would be great. The WA-47 should be good for capturing the low end frequencies
To potential buyers: don’t listen to the naysayers. Trust your ears, not their anonymous arrogance. You don’t need a Neve 1073 to make a phenomenal record. This will accomplish the *exact* job you’re buying it for. Edit: also look at all the blatant contradictions in their comments. Some are saying the high/low end is too harsh, while just as many others say there’s a lack of high/low end. If this were a double-blind test, a lot of these people wouldn’t know the Neve 1073 from a Universal Audio digital emulation. It’s all a bunch of hot air.
I tend to agree. A double blind test would be very interesting!
Came back to this years later... Still love the performance so much!
Thank you!!
For me the Neve is a bit Smoother an Natural sounding. But i just ordered an used WA73 EQ for 700 bucks. For that money its kindly to good compared to the neve. But hey. The last % is a big pricetag you have to spend. And im to broke for an Neve xD. Loved the Performance. I like how you sang it like "Telling a story" etc. Noth are great. Neve has this Legendary Status but you see a WA 73 in every Studio too... Its like you get 95% of the sound for just 900 bucks... I just using a dnx 286s at the moment and also planning to get an Klark Teknik KT-2A with an T4BLA opto. Im not even a singer or recorder. I just use it to talk on the Internet xD. I just LOVE Audio Gear and what people can do with it. I want it too! And you guys there kinda living my dream! Keep up the work!
Thanks for the comment and the compliment!
Nice video! It's always sad to see an "engineer" who has not one but two vintage u47s and doesn't even know anything about the capsules, circuits, tube, etc. When he mentioned Vintage King that explained a lot, as they are infamous for selling $30k u47s without showing any internal pics and no description of the capsule that is in the mic they have "restored." A lot of people are getting Nuvistor scammed by VK. Do not trust that company and if you are buying a vintage u47 please do your research on what you're buying!
Bela música e performance. Ambos tem um caráter vintage e soam bem. Neve vence, mas isso nao muda o que mais importa: gostar ou não da música. O microfone que está usando é um neumann u47 vintage ou um telefunken u47?
In this particular example, I cannot tell any difference between the two. Perhaps after engaging the EQ on both units there would be a more noticeable difference?
Yeah, maybe the eq sounds different. It’s be an interesting test. The eq on the warm is very colorful and musical. Definitely not a surgical eq but fun to play with.
Yeah, IMO TLM takes it.
Has anyone tried it compared to the SSL 2+ ? Does the 12 have a better sound quality?
I’m pretty sure it’s same preamps etc. in the 12 and the 2+. I haven’t tried them back to back but i’m sure the quality is identical
I also blinded myself and once doing so, they appeared very similar indeed (I agree with comments re mic placement and U47 having a bit more guitar level). If anything the vintage U47 may have been a tiny bit “smoother” in the mids but that was subtle. For the price, my money would be with the WA-47 (and with any luck I can one day compare to my friend Greg’s collection of U47’s and matching preamps!).
Neve is way better, not even close
For me it almost same but you can feel the brightness bump on the warm audio. Little more controlled bass and more overall “done” sound from the neve. Over all classic 1073 win here but with some little eq WA will sound 99 % same. So WA is the winder for the bucks. Great video! Great performance !!!🎉
Thank you!!
We were the distributor in Canada for Neumann in early 70’s. At the time the early models used a low voltage “peanut tube” that became hard to obtain after telefunken terminated production in mid 60’s. The new transistorized version was not as “warm” and exhibited a different sound according to the artists.. Eastern Sound in Toronto complained about the difference. Neumann did considerable research and found the difference was caused by a form of distortion. Caused by the tube amplifier. In fact they tried to reproduce the distortion but was unable. Finally they came to the conclusion the lack of distortion was due to the solid state amplifier. Curious to see if in fact this was a modified mic as we upgraded any U47/87 that was sent in for repair. Gotham Audio had the same complaints from their customers. A few kept their tube microphone for special use. FYI…. Bob Cook
That’s a great question! I’m not sure if the U47 at Studios at Fischer has the original tube amp or the updated transistor. It definitely sounds great. Very interesting information, thank you for sharing.
WA 73 would sound great if not compared to the Neve. The Neve has a lot more body than the WA73.
I notice you have a lot of rack outboard gear. How do you manage tracking those devices without many outs and no ADAT out on the SSL 12.
None of the gear in the desk is being used. The only outboard gear that I use is the wooden rack to the left. It has a power conditioner, 1073 style preamp, and an eleven rack that I occasionally use for recording electric guitar. The rest of the gear belongs to someone else who worked in the room previously.
I’ve never used the feature but the SSL 12 does have ADAT in to control 8 more inputs via the software if you wanted to expand. I think it works with the Focusrite or SSl Octo preamps etc
You should have multitracked so that the mics could have shared similar placement in relation to the sound source.
bringin it back! love the tune hahah
Haha yep!, thank you:)
If I close my eyes, I can hear the switch over to the Neve, but not the switch back to the WA73. Weird! They both sounds great to me. Awesome video.
There's something in the "T" and "S" sounds in the Warm piece that doesn't translate as nice as the Neve piece. I've learned this already on my WA73. It can be tweaked but those consonants are a slight problem. The Neve handles them better. But aside from that, they're very similar. Thanks for the comparison.
I listened on monitors and headphones and came to the conclusion that WA is better in every sense, including the absence of noise
trippin
Both sound good, and a good song by a good performer! Is the difference a $5,000 difference? Nope.
Lodin was in his “drinking champagne because it tastes good” phase 😂. Don’t mind me, I come here when I want to listen to the song. Even though I have both wav files. 😅
They Both sound incredible..