Piccadilly Model Railways
Piccadilly Model Railways
HI EVERYONE,
Piccadilly Model Railways currently covers two layouts: An N gauge layout based around modern day Manchester Piccadilly.
This layout was started in October 2018 and represents Piccadilly station and an image of the WCML. The layout is broken in sections DCC depicted miles apart from each other separated by varying modelling features eg bridges, backscenes etc. It will included other smaller branch line stations so trains can go on a journey.
The other layout OO gauge Piccadilly Sidings is a fictional location near Manchester which is mainly a heritage lin but modern stock still passes through. This layout currently is an end to end but is
Kind regards,shortly going to be converted into a tail chaser with a hi long traverser as a fiddle yard. I am keen to see this complete as the layout is vastly under used. It’ll will be nice to see trains running continuously. Scenic areas of the layout need some work but will largely remain unchanged in the conversion.
Regards,
John
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John, I like the way that you have treated the water after the weirs. Very effective! Regards, Stephen.
Thanks Stephen, glad you like it.
the water has made a huge difference and the weirs and fast water areas look great next to the walkway and the mill.
Thanks Chris, Im really pleased with how this came out. Recent train incidents in the tunnel below leave me not seeing whats happening, so I need to remove the top section. All should be ok, sounds worse than it will be.
Hi John, great work, it looks fantastic. Water tutorial also very useful! Cheers, Karl
Thanks Karl, glad you liked it.
Good morning John! Both bodies of water turned out brilliantly! When I first saw you dabbing the white paint on for the rapids, I thought it was going to be a disaster! Should have known you're such a talented artist it would all end up looking fantastic! Cheers, Ian.
lol, what you like? Strangely others have said the same. Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. I wouldn’t have left it looking a disaster lol. Having said that you haven’t seen what is in store for the Torr Vale unit, drastic but very necessary. Worry not the river, buildings and walkways are safe, well I hope so anyway, ha ha ha.
Dear John, very interesting how you solved the leakage problem around the mill. Regarding the fact you built up the scenery around the mill in several sessions I humbly think it’s very easy to leave a kind of gap, like the one you now mentioned. Love the idea though to check the riverbed with actual water. Even though it sounds risky, it’s indeed a great way to check the base for leaks, although I do understand the volume count was indeed the drive for the H2O pour. Glad to see and hear the wetting of the mill base wasn’t damaged too much and appropriately restored, as well as strengthened. Love the way the weirs look after the glossy Mod Podge and the white whirls added. Great to see the way you did the riverbed around the mill did prevent the ominous creep around the river’s edges. In that sense it’s very interesting you chose a different method for the other river. Where you simply made the surrounding green scenic elements removable, which created a beautiful and crisp river edge with a very natural looking overhang of soil and vegetation. Cheerio
I can appreciate it may seem mad to use water, but it really did show any potential leakage. Water really does find the tiniest gap. I would however, make sure the riverbed is watertight before continuing, but probably would use water again. I’m not always the one to follow convention, lol
Maybe dry sand would have been a better idea than water to test the volumes needed, then it could be vacuumed up and no water damage.
Hi David, yes indeed that would work to some degree. I don't regret using the water as it found the tiniest of holes. I probably would do yhe same again, but vlearly much earlier in the build way before any foliage and riverbed scenics is added.
Hi John, That is super for a first go well done. Cheers Robert.
Thanks Robert, I suppose that's another thing that can be ticked off the list, a water / resin pour. Was bit scary if thats the right term but so much easier second time on Torr Vale. Thanks for watching Robert, much appreciated.
Superb John I must say and the white water effects on the weirs looks fantastic. It helps that you're good at art/ painting to get those effects. I must try modge podge at some point rather than yhe water effects cream that i currently use. Top job, glad it's all sealed and sorted. Cheers Andy
Thanks Andy, yes I think the mod podge has created some lovely effects. I got my ideas from Geek Gaming Scenics, Luke Towan and Kathy Millatt, so I cannot take any credit lol. Does stink a bit mind... ha ha well worth it though.
Hi John👍 You have a fantastic artistic eye. When you start painting the white water I couldn’t see how it was going to go. But boom it turned out fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing it’s given me the ideas and inspiration to start my water project. Keep safe and well. Andy
Fantastic Andy, using images of real locations really does help know what you are aiming for. May I suggest look at Geek Gaming Scenics, Luke Toward and Kathy Millatt on KZread, and others have brillant explanations / demonstrationson all these techniques. There is a massive wealth on modelling water.
Excellent John ! The white water at the weir is "stonkingly" good. Pity there was so much damage to the bottom of the mill but at least the end result was worth it. Great bit of scenic work. Cheers Euan
Thank you Euan, yes the bottom of the mill unit does look a mess, but least its largely unseen. I do have to do some drastic work on this unit though, after running trains as they keep catching the trains. I need to remove the top of the hill ( forest section so I can see whats going on. ) The joys of the hobby?
The rising pour and the creation of the weir has come out very well. The rive around the Mill made you work to get the result you wanted. Water will always find a means of escape if one exists - pesky life giving thing that it is. I'm pleased you conquered it and the mill really looks good in place. Stephen
Thats very philasophical Stephen, lol. Yes there are life lessons in this, but so glad I was able to conquer it.
Hiya John very interesting video my friend, i've got the glossy mod podge and yeah it hum dings my friend! but you achieved a great effect with it and the straw technique creating the movemnt is a great idea.
Thanks Digger, never used mod podge before this and the smell took me by surprise. All kept nice and tight in that pot, then burst out all in a big whiff, lol
looks brilliant buddy
Hi John You certainly learn new skills with model railways and disaster can always be just round the corner 😀😀 Resin looks good though John. Cheers Kev
You certainly do learn so many different skills. I don’t think any of us can honestly say we know everything. I certainly don’t. I do though try to focus on the benefits. Gratefully Torr Vale Mill was and is ok. I did the resin pour today, all good, ready to add ripples and white water, yay.
Hi John, Great your on Holiday a break away from all the stress of your job and then you put yourself through all this!!!!! but well done its looks so life like and its not even finished yet bring on the next video. Cheers Robert.
Thanks Robert, I guess its the fear of the unknown, how the resin will react. Gratefully I got the Torr Vale unit watertight and pour in the resin, that was scary bit. What if I had resin all over the carpet. Moving on... Ive added the water ripples to the Goytcliffe area, does look a bit strange as the mod podge isnt quite as glossy. Still to add white water, but going well so far.
@@piccadillymodelrailways could you add a gloss varnish over the hogmog to match the rest??? Cheers Robert
Yes I am going to put gloss varnish over the 'hogmog' lol indeed. What you like?
Nice one John, always a scary moment when you start the pour but the results look fantastic.
Thanks Paul, yes it was a bit scary first time, but had 2-3 goes now. I guess its the fear of the unknown and how we deal with it. All is good so far though.
Hi John! Every day is a school day - even during the holidays! Lol! Great result in the end though! Can't believe how clear that resin is! Good luck with the pour around the Mill! Cheers, Ian.
Hi Ian, yes such a relief. I did manage to seal the Torr Vale unit and just added resin, all good so far. We have to try these things, and after 2-3 goes with resin my confidence is beginning to increase. There are many types of resin and I happen to choose a crystal clear one and yes it is glass clear. However, british rivers tend to be that very muddy brown colour. Great if you work for Mr Wonka, lol
Learning never stops. In my model railway days, I did a lot of experimenting. Most of the time, success. We need to be willing to go outside of our comfort zone. Your experimenting with the river reminds me of a football match. Your team played a poor first half. You trail 2-0 at the half. But in the second half, you 3 goals and you are now in extra time. You now have a good chance to win the match. I believe you will prevail over the river. Bill and Janet from California
Bless you Bill, most definitely never stop learning. Kids in school keep reminding me of that. It took a few goes to get the Torr Vale unit watertight, but just added the resin, so far so good.
Thats impressive John very interesting indeed
Thanks Digger, I finally got the Torr Vale unit watertight, took 3-4 goes mind, lol. Literally just added the resin, time will tell how it comes out.
In the summer of 1976, I worked in a mill by the side of the Goyt. It's looking about the right shade to me! Regards, Stephen.
Was it Torr Vale mill by New Mills Central station by any chance was it? You kept that quiet, lol
@@piccadillymodelrailways No. Faulders mill in Stockport. It was a summer job after my O Levels. The Goyt and the Tame come together in Stockport to form the river Mersey.
Oh I see, I dare say both rivers were/are as filthy as each other.
@piccadillymodelrailways Growing up, they were clean on the way into Stockport, but once they had gone the mile through town as the Mersey, the river was dead. The foam off it would bleach your clothes. It was said that if you fell in, you would asphyxiate before you drowned! There were 27 coal powered mills in a square mile at that time, a gas works, a power station, and an iron foundry!
Blimey, how life changes. A world when 'health and safety' handn't been thought of by the sound of it.
Glad the mill section dried out and wasn't totally ruined. The section with the pour does look very effective as did the technique for the water effect over the weir. Cheers Euan
Thank you Euan, I stripped out the whole substructure to gain access to the riverbed from below. Did a third water test, and still leaked but I saw exactly where from. Glue gun came to the rescue. Making steady progress, lol
The new river looks very effective!
Thank you, the modpodge effects will create some fantastic ripples.
Hi John I've been on holiday so missed a few videos. I do my rivers in a similar fashion. However I do use sculptamould for the river bed sealed with acrylic paint then sealed on top with a small amount of the water mixture. This also seals the stones on the river bed too. I seal the masking tape with sealant, it's not overkill it's just common sense to me. My waterfalls are made the kathy millat way also. Great job so far, look forward to the next one. By the way the river goyt is that colour because it starts on the moorlands adjacent to the cat and fiddle inn so it's coloured by the peat, it's also sat in errwood and fernilee reservoirs on route cheers Andy
You do make me chuckle Andy, here's me thinking that mud colours the river water, silly me, lol. Thank you for your kind comments about the resin pour, I still cant believe the acrylic varnish wasn't waterproof, never mind. Even though I smoothered the 'silcone' compound, strangely it looks ok through the resin. Got to be a result. Btw, I went to create the mound you suggested by Goytcliffe viaduct to hide the clip. However, it was so close to the tracks it didnt look right. So I made some hollow containers, they fit better, hope you dont mind? Although, how someone gets to them is another matter. Perhaps they need a tardis to get to there, lol.
Great to know that you're not a resin-pour virgin any more!! Looks really good John, well done. Chris
Lol, first time for everything. If I do another river scene I'll definitely approach it very differently for sure.
Kudos John for sticking with it and overcoming a near disaster, many might have given up at that point. The silicone on the plastic wrap was very innovative, for a moment I thought you were going to peel the silicone water off the plastic wrap. It looks terrific being able to see the river bed. So well done
Thank you, it was Kathy Millet's idea to use cling film so I can't take the credit for that. Thank you for watching and commenting.
All end well John but that was a close call on the Mill. The resin has worked well on that section and it will be interesting to see how the larger poor come out. Good luck. Stephen
Thanks Stephen, I had to strip out the sub frame on the Torr Vale build, finding that it was all quite damp. I had to plug a few areas but found the main cause was a 3mm hole buried behind foliage. Seems to be working out ok. Ill breathe that sigh of relief when both parts of the resin are sucessfully in, lol
very interesting, glad it worked out okay
Thank you, Im still working on the Torr Vale unit, but should be ok.
Hadfield has come out absolutely brilliant. I've spent this morning catching up on your videos, and it has been time well spent. I've always liked the way your videos show a lot of progress, so it's been an enjoyable morning. Well worth it to see the final completed project. Take care John. Lee
Bless you, a well deserved cup of tea and a long lie down is perhaps in order, lol. Seriously though, I really do appreciate your support and encouragement. Thank you!
John, the broken bridge looks brilliant. I like it because it's broken and that makes it different, also the trains running past it will look really good. Looks very realistic. Well done again John. Lee
Thank you, the main reason was to avoid strange levels with the two bridges near each other. Glad you like the result.
Hi John, I hope you've been keeping well. I'm catching up on videos this morning, hence the late comments. It really is fun modelling a true station, and I can see that you have truly nailed this. It looks absolutely brilliant. I was so impressed with the station building and interior, but then, you added the details to the platform, and wow. Really nice work, John. Lee
Bless you Lee, thank you so much. Really glad you like it. You are right, it is fun modelling a real location, it is easy knowing what goes where and how it looks. Catch you soon, take care.
Thank you so much for this video, didnt have any idea on how to fit the detailing bits, so I recently tried (for the first time) fitting the vacuum hoses to my class 91, only to be fustrated that they fall off!!!, only when you advised to use the clear glue, did the penny drop!!!, i,ll order some of the glue, is the same glue suitable for the name plates, or would you recommend the double sided tape ?, Thank you!!!!!!😀
Hi, so glad the video was helpful to you. I always use double sided tape for nameplates, that way you won’t damage the bodywork on the loco and they are easier to position, so much cleaner too. Regarding vacuum hoses I always found I needed to drill out the holes slightly using a micro drill bit set and hand twist drill or pin vice as they are also called. Test each without glue first. Please say if I can help further.
This is awesome!!! Excited to see your model 323 arriving there like in real life :)
Thank you so much. Yes I agree that will be a bit of a milestone. Quite a while away though, Im afraid as the track is all up and Hadfield is a bit of a island. I want to get the 2 river pours done and we can then see how much time is left on the school hols. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Sorry John,
Superb bit of modelling John. The station is a fantastic build - definitely captured the real Hadfield. I do like the 3D printed retaining wall with its curved features. I'd finish those small bare areas before tackling the last station. Great bit of work. Cheers Euan
Hi Euan, thank you so much. I was getting all excited, thinking I could move on and get the water pour done. Then remembered OHLE gantries. OMG 3 days solid printing aaaarrggghhhhhhh ha ha ha. Fantastic to see your layout on Jenny Kirk's show. Looking sooooo good Euan.
@@piccadillymodelrailways I'd forgotten I'd sent in the clip - so when I heard Zoe say my name........ Just working on the layout's first tunnel - to disguise the entrance/exit to the 2nd helix - yet more Scalescenes kits used. It never ends, but I don't need to tell you that as you'll know what I mean. All good fun 😀
Did you 3d model the roofs … or?
STOP! I apreciate your comments, but please say all you want to say in ONE COMMENT NOT 14. Any more they will all be deleted!
Ok, saw you are using filament and 2mm grey board 👍
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Any reason why you didn’t cover the walls of the buildings with paper and cut the openings first ? Sorry about all the questions
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Any reason why you didn’t cover the walls of the buildings with paper and cut the openings first ? Sorry about all the questions
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Filament or resin printer?
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Are the buildings made from grey card or… ?
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John, outstanding modelling. You could be working as a 3d modeller making a very good income but you wouldn’t get the summers off🤣
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is that foamcore you have used for the curved backscene ? Did you paint them after curving them ? If so did they warp?
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great job with the hill/cutting. Any reason why you did not use insulating board as I have in my latest short?
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I see, you added the arches later 👍
great 3d printing and very quick too
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Just all round incredible work John
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what was the name/info on the package from Amazon?
Fred Bloggs, planet Zogg
Terrific looking destroyed bridge
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John, you always get your perspectives right. This makes for great scenes, which really lead the eye. Quite often, the derelict areas in front of service buildings like the carriage shed are rosebay willowherb jungles dotted with derelict abandoned bits. Often an overall beige straw area to contrast with all the green. Nothing high. Just a thought. You've created another atmospheric scene out of a "problem" corner. Regards, Stephen.
Thank you so much Stephen, we are very much on the same page with the area in front of the carriage shed. Ive ballasted the area with very sparing patches of grass, a few bushes and shrubs, not much and very low. I have a container and an abandoned narrow boat with rusted rail scraps, few relay cabinets. I am looking for more scrap, but time will tell what I can find. If you have any thoughts, Id be grateful to receive them.
@@piccadillymodelrailways Barrels! There's always barrels. 😄
Fair enough, Ill make some barrels.
Hi John, 😀😀😀❤👍👍👍 Cheers Robert.