Hello. Do I understand correctly that the horn part presented in the video does not match the cello part? Could you please provide the cello part?
@DemirSezer13 күн бұрын
The cello part can be found in IMSLP. The only version with the piano accompaniment was the horn version though, that's why I used it in this video.
@user-gd7ul8gc2z13 күн бұрын
@@DemirSezer Thank you!
@r.i.p.volodya14 күн бұрын
I didn't know Scriabin had ever written such a thing....
@ph4st15 күн бұрын
@amitjena808216 күн бұрын
beautiful
@andrewc964316 күн бұрын
Finding new Scriabin is always a blessing. Thank you for posting
@DemirSezer16 күн бұрын
It is a blessing indeed. I recommend giving a listen to the original horn version as well!
@solom.k.a26 күн бұрын
6:35
@AsrielKujoАй бұрын
DEMIR SHEET MUSIC CREATOR???? YOU'RE SO COOL MAN :D
@DemirSezerАй бұрын
DAMN DAVIDE THANKS WELCOME ALIVE
@arbnis2120Ай бұрын
I got random notification rn
@Dylonely42Ай бұрын
Thank you for this sharing !
@SvetoslavSlavovPianoАй бұрын
wonderful piece,wish it was longer
@seojoonhan8363Ай бұрын
beutiful work!
@fazliddinerkaboyev6568Ай бұрын
Yes!
@tpianistАй бұрын
Really beautiful!!
@ValheurbiaАй бұрын
I recently learned Kitayenko’s and it was heaven.
@oosallytomatooo13212 ай бұрын
Damn ! I've already heard those chords at 2:16 somewhere !
@dudaschmitz63262 ай бұрын
absolutely beautiful!
@eddieandmaxie2 ай бұрын
ALKAN WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS 😂
@Orson2u2 ай бұрын
Concert pianist Ben Laude (“Tonebase” channel) makes the case that this work is Rach’s most personal opus. And therefore, to him, it is over time, appreciated much more than the the great 2nd and 3rd concertos. It grows on one. Dismissing it as a failure is a mistake. Pianist Nicholai Lugansky makes a parallel case, here kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3ijk8OGYM3fZso.html
@mrmaxboypvp50972 ай бұрын
just me or this does not look chopin? I kinda see it a little bit but not really.
@user-gt8gj4vg1q2 ай бұрын
this was apparently meant for orchestra but became lost, is it possible to make the orchestrated version????
@Alessandro_da_Rimini3 ай бұрын
a video for each version
@Whaijorhujishkomunyk3 ай бұрын
I love how Prok can be so lovely and 'utterly demented' (as someone commented elsewhere) in the same piece
@naphtanaptha3 ай бұрын
beautiful. didn't know blumenfeld wrote such modern harmonies (although for his time they were anything but). I associate him much more with more chromatic romantic harmonies, rather than the whole tone related, less tonal ones here. great find, thank you :)
@demon91664 ай бұрын
Ne zamandir muzikle ilgileniyorsun? Bu tarz eserleri dinleyip anlamaya calismak bile derin bir gecmisin oldugunu hissettiriyor.
@DemirSezer4 ай бұрын
6-7 sene filan
@demon91664 ай бұрын
Üstüne bir de gençsin. Ne oldu da müziğe başladın klasik müziğe? Öncesinde seninle sohbet etmek istemiştim aklımdaki projelerden bahsedecektim. Insta falan var mı? Nereden ulaşabilirim çok fazla sorum var. Ben de senin gibi Musedcoredan falan eserlerimi daha piyanoda çalamadan yazıp arkadaşlarıma göstermiştim. KZreaddan video atmanı bekliyorum bir cevaplık sohbet için. Videolarında kalitesinden herhalde haftalar alıyor
@tt-ew7rx4 ай бұрын
Why is this a full 5 min shorter than most other recordings? They omitted some repeats?
@DemirSezer4 ай бұрын
Could just as well be the tempo, I'll have to check it but I don't remember coming across any weirdness while making the video
@tt-ew7rx4 ай бұрын
@@DemirSezer That's 25min vs 30 min, proportionally quite significant. Maybe the others are taking repeats not written on the score? Are there different versions?
@danielhornby55814 ай бұрын
Stephen Hough’s recording is only 25:51 so very similar!😊
@paulybarr3 ай бұрын
As we can see, there are no repeat marks in the score, so it is simply down to tempo differences between interpretations.
@DemirSezer3 ай бұрын
To be fair while doing some other score videos I did notice some conductors outright skipping a few pages, not playing them (Rozhdestvensky with Scriabin's 2nd symphony); so it could be possible this is the case here as well. Possibly not though since it's a concerto
@jacquesvaissier19965 ай бұрын
Un pur délice !
@Mofos_of_Metal6 ай бұрын
Most comments about this piece seem to miss the point - the piece is called Ballade #2 - and it's CLEARLY inspired by Chopin's Ballade #2 in the opening theme. It's a tribute - but it's also an entirely new thing. Bowen was not "radically" innovative but was a perfect example of a composer who found his own new and unique voice within tonal music. He wasn't a mere 'throwback' - if you listen to a lot of his music, you realize that it's got this really unique marriage of super-late romantic ala-Rachmaninoff and impressionistic-ala Debussy/Ravel music - it's like a mix of Russian and French influences - combined with a uniquely English sensibility and style. I love his music for how potent the Romantic drama of it is - quite rare for English composers - and also how rich and opulent the harmonies are. I particularly love his fondness for augmented chords - a common feature of his work! He clearly took them from the impressionists but in his language they bring new colours to late-romantic harmonies.
@valerieheinderyckx45066 ай бұрын
Ce concerto vaut le détour et pourrait être présent dans le concert international... Merci infiniment. ❤
@gulsen69546 ай бұрын
Teyzem benim ya çok güzel
@chillerdude16 ай бұрын
This is just beautiful! Thank you very much
@gyeongchankim54236 ай бұрын
Majestic
@pietervoogt6 ай бұрын
I think from 6:30 it is the most romantic Prokofiev I ever heard
@suremate7 ай бұрын
Beyond a certain motivic similarity, I don’t think this piece is as heavily inspired by Chopin as people here claim. Harmonically, it’s worlds apart and the structure is also a lot more cohesive than the Chopin F major ballade which is very episodic.
@royercrafter7 ай бұрын
i honestly like this way more than chopin's take, its as if chopin had been taken into the future and had seen the likes of thelonious monk. I love this thing, thanks for uploading.
@orlandocfi7 ай бұрын
This lovely piece is lightly inspired by Chopins ballade 2…the composer has not borrowed heavily, as some commenters are suggesting.
@PenguinMilk7 ай бұрын
I would say heavily inspired...
@reimakousei7936 ай бұрын
@PenguinMilk structurally speaking, perhaps. But the material, as in melodic and harmonic structure, definitely encompasses Bowen's compositional style
@Xyriak7 ай бұрын
liszt
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
Feliszt Blumenfeld didn't work as well as I imagined it would :/
@AtlasRaider22 күн бұрын
Chopin too (étude op 10 no 10) 8:06
@tarikeld117 ай бұрын
0:06 these chords, something between late romantic and Ravel, just beautiful...
@musicboiscores7 ай бұрын
It kind of annoys me that it seems like there's no piano score for this piece with the actual flute part available on the internet, I have also never seen the piano score published with the flute part too... seems like everyone else is content with reading from the violin version...
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
It's a shame that the only available scores with piano and flute are behind a paywall
@Whatismusic1235 ай бұрын
Pieces like this are best forgotten as the trash they are. It is a good thing it's hard to find it.
@supasayajinsongoku44647 ай бұрын
I know I said this sounds like chopins 2nd ballade, but an even more striking comparison would be with rachmaninoffs 2nd prelude from his op.32 set. Please, please PLEASE go listen to this prelude if you havent already, the resembelances of that to this must be more then just coincedence. Besides, they did call York Bowen the english Rachmaninoff.
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
I had made a synthesia video of that a while back lol, looking back at it it's definitely extremely similar
@supasayajinsongoku44647 ай бұрын
@@DemirSezer also i forgot to add, whatever simularities it has with other pieces, it shoulden't take away from the beauty and epicness of the piece, so thank you for uploading this :)
@JaseBach7 ай бұрын
@@DemirSezer 6:03
@marinadela13617 ай бұрын
It means that Rachmaninov copied from Chopin. No surprise.
@supasayajinsongoku44647 ай бұрын
@@marinadela1361 i disagree
@SCRIABINIST7 ай бұрын
The style is very distinct and is a refreshing despite not being innovative. The only problem is that it's too similar to Chopin's 2nd Ballade that the listener will be marred from a great listening experience.
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
The more familiar you get with bowen's overall language, the similarity between chopin's ballade and this starts being less and less striking. For me, although there surely is some obvious resemeblance, I can easily listen to it without constantly comparing it to chopin's lol
@tonslywonsly7 ай бұрын
blumenfeld is the goat
@ChrisBreemer7 ай бұрын
An impressive piece, if perhaps a little prolix, veering between Delius and Medtner. Joop Celis is absolutely the man for the job. I remember a Grampohone reviewer praising his 'pulverizing virtuosity'. Why he is not more famous I do not understand.
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
Oh wow how have I never heard of Delius before? A new composer for me to explore haha
@classicallpvault82517 ай бұрын
Probably because he devotes most of his time to teaching at the Maastricht Conservatoire and isn't a full time concert pianist and recording artist.
@brianj9597 ай бұрын
I would never thought to have used ‘prolix’ to describe music before, but it’s a good choice for this piece: there are too many semiquavers for my taste, as if the composer felt he needed to constantly keep the chatter going, when actually the harmony often creates more than enough movement. Interesting work nonetheless.
@tobiascomposer7 ай бұрын
Pero agradezco el tiempo que te haz tomado para orquestar.
@tobiascomposer7 ай бұрын
Gracias por compartir, pero te hago notar que la escritura par C bajos está fuera de lo que realmente es...
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
haha gracias, no sabía mucho sobre organizar instrumentos cuando hice esto lol
@annazully26807 ай бұрын
I was going to try to learn, sat down for 5 minutes and said NVM lmfaooooo
@demon91667 ай бұрын
Tr de Chopinin op 10 etütlerinin hepsini daha önce çalan olmuş mu? Yoksa ben ilk olacam
@DemirSezer7 ай бұрын
Ne kadar zor olsalar da standart repertuarın en önemli setlerinden biri olduğu için çalanı çok vardır derim
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Hello. Do I understand correctly that the horn part presented in the video does not match the cello part? Could you please provide the cello part?
The cello part can be found in IMSLP. The only version with the piano accompaniment was the horn version though, that's why I used it in this video.
@@DemirSezer Thank you!
I didn't know Scriabin had ever written such a thing....
beautiful
Finding new Scriabin is always a blessing. Thank you for posting
It is a blessing indeed. I recommend giving a listen to the original horn version as well!
6:35
DEMIR SHEET MUSIC CREATOR???? YOU'RE SO COOL MAN :D
DAMN DAVIDE THANKS WELCOME ALIVE
I got random notification rn
Thank you for this sharing !
wonderful piece,wish it was longer
beutiful work!
Yes!
Really beautiful!!
I recently learned Kitayenko’s and it was heaven.
Damn ! I've already heard those chords at 2:16 somewhere !
absolutely beautiful!
ALKAN WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS 😂
Concert pianist Ben Laude (“Tonebase” channel) makes the case that this work is Rach’s most personal opus. And therefore, to him, it is over time, appreciated much more than the the great 2nd and 3rd concertos. It grows on one. Dismissing it as a failure is a mistake. Pianist Nicholai Lugansky makes a parallel case, here kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3ijk8OGYM3fZso.html
just me or this does not look chopin? I kinda see it a little bit but not really.
this was apparently meant for orchestra but became lost, is it possible to make the orchestrated version????
a video for each version
I love how Prok can be so lovely and 'utterly demented' (as someone commented elsewhere) in the same piece
beautiful. didn't know blumenfeld wrote such modern harmonies (although for his time they were anything but). I associate him much more with more chromatic romantic harmonies, rather than the whole tone related, less tonal ones here. great find, thank you :)
Ne zamandir muzikle ilgileniyorsun? Bu tarz eserleri dinleyip anlamaya calismak bile derin bir gecmisin oldugunu hissettiriyor.
6-7 sene filan
Üstüne bir de gençsin. Ne oldu da müziğe başladın klasik müziğe? Öncesinde seninle sohbet etmek istemiştim aklımdaki projelerden bahsedecektim. Insta falan var mı? Nereden ulaşabilirim çok fazla sorum var. Ben de senin gibi Musedcoredan falan eserlerimi daha piyanoda çalamadan yazıp arkadaşlarıma göstermiştim. KZreaddan video atmanı bekliyorum bir cevaplık sohbet için. Videolarında kalitesinden herhalde haftalar alıyor
Why is this a full 5 min shorter than most other recordings? They omitted some repeats?
Could just as well be the tempo, I'll have to check it but I don't remember coming across any weirdness while making the video
@@DemirSezer That's 25min vs 30 min, proportionally quite significant. Maybe the others are taking repeats not written on the score? Are there different versions?
Stephen Hough’s recording is only 25:51 so very similar!😊
As we can see, there are no repeat marks in the score, so it is simply down to tempo differences between interpretations.
To be fair while doing some other score videos I did notice some conductors outright skipping a few pages, not playing them (Rozhdestvensky with Scriabin's 2nd symphony); so it could be possible this is the case here as well. Possibly not though since it's a concerto
Un pur délice !
Most comments about this piece seem to miss the point - the piece is called Ballade #2 - and it's CLEARLY inspired by Chopin's Ballade #2 in the opening theme. It's a tribute - but it's also an entirely new thing. Bowen was not "radically" innovative but was a perfect example of a composer who found his own new and unique voice within tonal music. He wasn't a mere 'throwback' - if you listen to a lot of his music, you realize that it's got this really unique marriage of super-late romantic ala-Rachmaninoff and impressionistic-ala Debussy/Ravel music - it's like a mix of Russian and French influences - combined with a uniquely English sensibility and style. I love his music for how potent the Romantic drama of it is - quite rare for English composers - and also how rich and opulent the harmonies are. I particularly love his fondness for augmented chords - a common feature of his work! He clearly took them from the impressionists but in his language they bring new colours to late-romantic harmonies.
Ce concerto vaut le détour et pourrait être présent dans le concert international... Merci infiniment. ❤
Teyzem benim ya çok güzel
This is just beautiful! Thank you very much
Majestic
I think from 6:30 it is the most romantic Prokofiev I ever heard
Beyond a certain motivic similarity, I don’t think this piece is as heavily inspired by Chopin as people here claim. Harmonically, it’s worlds apart and the structure is also a lot more cohesive than the Chopin F major ballade which is very episodic.
i honestly like this way more than chopin's take, its as if chopin had been taken into the future and had seen the likes of thelonious monk. I love this thing, thanks for uploading.
This lovely piece is lightly inspired by Chopins ballade 2…the composer has not borrowed heavily, as some commenters are suggesting.
I would say heavily inspired...
@PenguinMilk structurally speaking, perhaps. But the material, as in melodic and harmonic structure, definitely encompasses Bowen's compositional style
liszt
Feliszt Blumenfeld didn't work as well as I imagined it would :/
Chopin too (étude op 10 no 10) 8:06
0:06 these chords, something between late romantic and Ravel, just beautiful...
It kind of annoys me that it seems like there's no piano score for this piece with the actual flute part available on the internet, I have also never seen the piano score published with the flute part too... seems like everyone else is content with reading from the violin version...
It's a shame that the only available scores with piano and flute are behind a paywall
Pieces like this are best forgotten as the trash they are. It is a good thing it's hard to find it.
I know I said this sounds like chopins 2nd ballade, but an even more striking comparison would be with rachmaninoffs 2nd prelude from his op.32 set. Please, please PLEASE go listen to this prelude if you havent already, the resembelances of that to this must be more then just coincedence. Besides, they did call York Bowen the english Rachmaninoff.
I had made a synthesia video of that a while back lol, looking back at it it's definitely extremely similar
@@DemirSezer also i forgot to add, whatever simularities it has with other pieces, it shoulden't take away from the beauty and epicness of the piece, so thank you for uploading this :)
@@DemirSezer 6:03
It means that Rachmaninov copied from Chopin. No surprise.
@@marinadela1361 i disagree
The style is very distinct and is a refreshing despite not being innovative. The only problem is that it's too similar to Chopin's 2nd Ballade that the listener will be marred from a great listening experience.
The more familiar you get with bowen's overall language, the similarity between chopin's ballade and this starts being less and less striking. For me, although there surely is some obvious resemeblance, I can easily listen to it without constantly comparing it to chopin's lol
blumenfeld is the goat
An impressive piece, if perhaps a little prolix, veering between Delius and Medtner. Joop Celis is absolutely the man for the job. I remember a Grampohone reviewer praising his 'pulverizing virtuosity'. Why he is not more famous I do not understand.
Oh wow how have I never heard of Delius before? A new composer for me to explore haha
Probably because he devotes most of his time to teaching at the Maastricht Conservatoire and isn't a full time concert pianist and recording artist.
I would never thought to have used ‘prolix’ to describe music before, but it’s a good choice for this piece: there are too many semiquavers for my taste, as if the composer felt he needed to constantly keep the chatter going, when actually the harmony often creates more than enough movement. Interesting work nonetheless.
Pero agradezco el tiempo que te haz tomado para orquestar.
Gracias por compartir, pero te hago notar que la escritura par C bajos está fuera de lo que realmente es...
haha gracias, no sabía mucho sobre organizar instrumentos cuando hice esto lol
I was going to try to learn, sat down for 5 minutes and said NVM lmfaooooo
Tr de Chopinin op 10 etütlerinin hepsini daha önce çalan olmuş mu? Yoksa ben ilk olacam
Ne kadar zor olsalar da standart repertuarın en önemli setlerinden biri olduğu için çalanı çok vardır derim
damn this is STUNNING and pretty consice :o
just like you
🤧🥵@@DemirSezer
11:45
2:46