Can you tell me what the difference there is between composite and fiberglass - are they essentially the same thing?
@PHSeaKayaksКүн бұрын
'Composite' is a general term relating to any kayak which is made from a woven material wetted with resin. 'Fiberglass' is often used interchangeably with 'Composite', but in reality refers to a specific type of composite material. We have not used fiberglass as a main construction material in our kayaks since the 70s; the nearest equivalent we use is 'Diolen', which is a nylon-like weave, and far less brittle - we also build composite sea kayaks using Carbon, Kevlar/Carbon, and Kevlar/Diolen weaves, and incorporate polyester or vinylester resin either via 'wet layup', 'vacuum bagging', or 'infusion' processes, depending on the section of kayak and overall spec.
@brucecoppola851218 күн бұрын
Must I remove the Connect seat to re-tighten the hip pads? I was able to flip the buckle up to loosen them to remove a shim but its impossible to tighten them. I can't seem to do it with the buckle visible, but reaching behind to grasp and pull the strap is impossible.
@PHSeaKayaks18 күн бұрын
No need to remove the seat! Make sure you're working across the kayak (i.e. stand on the left to access the RHS hip pad, and vice versa), and then push the strap through as far as you can from the back of the seat, before reaching in from the front to grab and pull it tight. The space is a little tight, but it should be doable - if not, consider enlisting the help of someone with smaller hands, or using a pair of pliers or similar.
@brucecoppola851217 күн бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Just the job for my lady friend!
@stanley7021 күн бұрын
P&H Scorpio MK II kayak with leaking bulkheads. This model after the recent facelift is just very poor quality . Full on new kayaks with bulges and small blisters . Leaking luggage compartment hatches as well as bulkheads . This is some kind of scandal that the most expensive polyethylene kayak on the market is so poorly made . Change the factory in China for some more professional because the one in which you produce these junk is definitely at the initial stage and as you can see from the workmanship and finish kayaks are just learning this technology sandwich . I was in Dublin a few days ago in a shop called I-Canoe which is a dealer of your brand and my hands fell as I saw exactly 3 Scorpio MK II's ! - It is simply a scandal how carelessly they are made ! . I was going to buy one for myself but have effectively cured myself of this intention . Maybe nautically they are good kayaks that work well on the water , but the quality of their workmanship for the price at which they are sold is some kind of grim joke ! .
@PHSeaKayaks19 күн бұрын
Hi Stanley, Thanks for choosing our kayaks - have you reached out to your dealer or ourselves with regards to getting the issue you're experiencing resolved? You're more than welcome to contact us on [email protected] with more information. If you're local to or ever passing Runcorn, where we've made each and every plastic canoe and kayak under all our brands since 1976 or so (when rotomoulded kayaks were first introduced), then we'd be glad to show you around, explain the process to you, and show you exactly how much work and passion we pour in to each and every one we build. Thanks.
@matte-d349Ай бұрын
Thanks for the overview. Interesting that smaller and larger models are coming. I have been able to do test paddles in a Cetus MV and HV, and found the HV far more comfortable for me; the MV pushed my knees down way too far. Is the Volan 160 cockpit ergonomics closer to the Cetus MV or HV?
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
Hi Matt, thanks for your comment! The Volan 160 is more spacious with a slightly higher knee position when compared to the Cetus HV :)
@matte-d349Ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks That's great, thanks! Do you have any "recommended paddler weight/height" for the Volan 158/160? Or Cetus' for that matter? I am 5'11" and ~205lbs. Thanks!
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
@@matte-d349 yes indeed - all listed on our website if you hover over 'Kayaks' in the top menu, click on 'Models', click on the model you want to look at, and scroll down a little. Max. Paddler Weights for the models you mention are: Volan 158: 245lbs Volan 160: 265lbs Cetus LV: 232lbs Cetus MV: 254lbs Cetus HV: 308lbs We'd recommend you look primarily to the Volan 160 or Cetus MV - the Cetus HV may also be an option if you want to carry a little more gear.
@mikecoglione1308Ай бұрын
I've had a volan for a couple years and really started enjoying it this year. My initial problem was the seat was too far forward and the rear lip of the seat made me feel like I had to prop myself up. Some minor changes of position with my dealer helped immensely. The boat is not for beginners but is very confidence inspiring. It's not super stable when you're not moving like a recreational boat but it has incredible secondary stability so you can hold edge or just move it around with enormous confidence. It is very, very hard to flip and the more wind or waves show up, the more confidence inspiring this boat becomes. Most people think that a following sea is good because you don't have to paddle as hard but in most boats a current from the back makes your yak want to weathercock sideways to then flip you. Not the Volan wow this kayak holds its stability and line amazing with both a cross wave or current behind. Its effortless to paddle. Like I said the worse the conditions get the more stable and nimble it feels. If you feel like you need to pick your days because of weather and you have at least some experience or skill this is a fantastic boat that gives enormous room for a progressing beginner or intermediate paddler to grow. Can cruise at 4mph all day barely trying with heart rate in zone 2 110-120's or exceed 7mph (according to Garmin and Strava) on full bore power. Speed is effortless, want to go faster just paddle a little harder there's plenty of hull to soak up the effort and you don't have to try very hard to go very fast. You can feel it and see the shore just cranking by. Obviously these high end designs don't come cheap, but aside from minor seat problems that were easily fixed with minor modifications it absolutely feels like a high end boat. It has changed how I look at the water. Now a "bad" day in terms of wind or waves is actually a "very good one" thanks to the Volan. I used to look at the P&H facebook page and think those exploits were absolutely insane and these paddlers were foolhardy to try to pull their mind blowing exploits. When you've paddled most kayaks, that assumption is correct you'd think those videos and adventures of being in waves bigger than most buildings would be impossible; not until you paddled a P&H boat. Wonderful, thank you, I cannot lay enough praise on this fantastic boat. It shows you have spent a huge amount of time with R&D to crank out something amazing. I will never get rid of my stellar boats because they are smaller, lighter, more portable and fun in their own way. Can you make a Volan double? Like a "Volan LV 190" for me and the wife? Make it ~24-25" wide, 19-20ft long, similar hull. Yah I know 2x kayaks don't sell well... Anyway thanks again I am very grateful for my paddling journey to have hooked me up with the Volan. Credit deserves to be given for a fantastic job that was fabulously engineered and executed. Many thanks
@EhkaimaАй бұрын
This is my dream kayak, I would love to have it but probably it's just a wish 😔
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
Keep dreaming, and we'll keep our fingers crossed we can build a Cetus for you one day!
@joethi4981Ай бұрын
How come you guys make such amazing and excellent kayaks? Better than anything in North America.
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
Must be something in the water... 😜 We are quite lucky to have a variety of world-class sea kayaking spots all within a reasonable drive here in the UK!
@brucecoppola851217 күн бұрын
@@joethi4981 The UK seems to have a high sea kayak makers per capita ratio: P&H, NDK, Rockpool, Valley...
@paulmartin58892 ай бұрын
I ordered a custom built Volan. Picked the kayak up in April 2024. The Volan is nimble. Fast. Tracks well without the use of the skeg. However, I do have complaints. I spent a great deal of money for the Volan. My rear/stern hatch leaks. I have water tested it and have come to the conclusion that the water is leaking in through the skeg box. Another problem I had is when attempting to lock my kayak the u-metal joint just immediately popped out. P &H didn’t use a washer or wing nut to fasten this attachment rendering the u-joint useless. Finally, I used the Customizer to put my kayak together. I ordered the standard foot pegs. Not glassed in. What did I receive? A square foot peg attached to a rubber-instead of hard plastic-adjustment line. That is glassed in. Oh. There is glue residue along my cockpit coating. Quality of build on my Volan is poor. And I received parts I didn’t order. If P & H didn’t have specific parts then that company should of contacted me . None of my other friends who paddle the Volan have problems with their P & H kayaks. I got a real ‘dud’ though. Hope P & H contacts me to rectify my concerns. I paid a great deal of money for my kayak and am not happy…Regards
@PHSeaKayaks2 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, Thanks for choosing our kayaks, and glad to hear the positives you've experienced - sorry to hear of the issues, however. Can we ask if you've raised any of those items with your dealer in the course of a warranty claim? We'd be very happy to work with them to investigate and resolve if possible.
@paulmartin58892 ай бұрын
I have contacted my dealer. He’s been cooperative. Presently, he’s out of town on an expedition. Since he left I’ve discovered more problems with the kayak. The dealer knows about the leakage situation, but not the other problems.For instance, my dealer was going to send me the foot pegs I ordered. That was good for me until I discovered that P & H glassed my foot pegs in. That option is on the P & H Customizer which I chose not to get. But somehow, I received glassed-in foot pegs. I will contact my dealer when he returns from his trip.
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
@@paulmartin5889 please keep in touch with your dealer, but feel free to email us on [email protected] if you need us to step in for any reason. We do glass the footrests in as standard on all Infusion layups - it's important to note that this does not mean the footrests are permanently attached - it just means the bolts affixed internally, rather than being drilled through the hull from the outside. You can still swap footrests to any of similar bolt sizing and spacings, which is the case for most footrest systems.
@flatheadfletch2 ай бұрын
Which is more capable, this or Volan ?
@PHSeaKayaks2 ай бұрын
It depends on your preferences, experience, and intentions really! Can you tell us a little more about those?
@johnraffaghello23 ай бұрын
Recently used a few of the poly boats to run some island tours, great quality boats for the price.
@mariewalsh13563 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thsnks!
@adison63403 ай бұрын
Какая цена?
@PHSeaKayaks3 ай бұрын
From £2,995 / €3,495 :)
@adison63403 ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks 😮 350,000₽ Пожалуй возьму китайца пластик за 70000₽ 700€
@PHSeaKayaks3 ай бұрын
@@adison6340 У разницы в цене есть веская причина - на самом деле несколько веских причин! Мы надеемся, что вы найдете что-то, что подойдет вашим целям и бюджету :)
@JoshPiland4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Is there a skudder demonstration video? All the best!
@flatheadfletch4 ай бұрын
I purchased the Volan 160 a year ago, wow ! So very responsive. This yak moves so much quicker in every way, at 42lbs it has become an extension of my body effortlessly. At 63yo and 215lbs I’m loving it. First new yak I ever bought !
@PHSeaKayaks4 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Thank you so much for choosing our kayaks, and especially for letting us know how much you're enjoying it!
@marcosgarcianorris4 ай бұрын
Hi P&H. Thanks for the video. Do you have any video or comments on adding a short rope or similar to the skeg so my buddy can pull it out when already in the water and it is jammed with a small stone or sand? It happens quite often unless I tip toe into the water 🙂. I don't want to drill before checking with someone.
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
Hey Marcos, For that, use a sharp, 3mm drill bit, and carefully drill a hole at least 5mm from any edge of the skeg blade, towards the bottom of the blade at the end closest to the stern, while supporting it on the other side with a block of wood (taking care not to drill your hand!) Once drilled, trim the hole with sharp blade, then thread a length of 2mm dyneema through - we then tie two overhand knots, plait it, tie another overhand about half way down, plait it some more, then tie off with a stopper knot - you can do whatever you wish though, but we'd recommend you don't create a loop that could snag on rocks or anything and damage the blade. Hope that helps! Mat
@marcosgarcianorrisАй бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Got it done. I spoke with one of the PH guys at Canoecopia...thanks.
@PHSeaKayaksАй бұрын
@@marcosgarcianorris great to hear! Happy paddling!
@snowleopard19185 ай бұрын
Big time disappointment. Went to sit in the Virgo HV to try out the fit and wow, it’s way too tight across the hips, guess these boats are for the super skinny. I’m 6’2” tall, 240 lbs, 40” waist and it’s super tight because the seat sides taper inward towards the seat back. To fit in there with the hip pads you’d need a 36” waist. My size 13 feet were also catching on the back of the deck pod. Maybe you could make one that’s made for a larger person.
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that! It sounds like you were sitting in the boat with the hip pads - many actually prefer to go without these (it allows easier trunk rotation for more efficient forward paddling, which of course, is the majority of sea kayaking!), and there are pre-installed foam shims that can be removed if you find them too tight but don't want to lose them completely. It's also important that you make sure they're adjusted to hook over your hips, rather than press into them. I'm a similar size to you (6'1", 250lbs, 40" waist - but only UK 9.5 feet) and found I was relatively comfortable in the boat, so I am confident there is hope for you to find comfort too! I'm surprised your feet were catching on the deck pod, as they should be well past it at your height - are you sure it wasn't another internal fitting the were touching? Perhaps try adjusting the footrests to a slightly different position, or positioning your feet on them differently. We can fit the footrests to a custom position if required, and/or build a boat without the deck pod for you. If you're looking for a boat with guaranteed comfort room, then I'd recommend taking a look at the Scorpio MKII HV.
@snowleopard19185 ай бұрын
I’m 6’2” 240lbs, currently I paddle the Venture Islay 14’. Do you think I’ll notice a speed or performance gain with the Virgo HV?
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely - the Virgo's hull is certainly more performance-orientated than the Islay's, without sacrificing too much stability.
@snowleopard19185 ай бұрын
Why is the Leo HV paddler weight so low. 124kg/245lbs? I have a Venture Islay 14 that I purchased back in 2014 ish and it’s paddler weight is 285 lbs. It’s the same width but shorter by 2’. I’m wanting to upgrade to the Virgo HV or Leo HV, but I’m 6’2” 240 lbs. so I’m guessing the Leo HV is not an option.
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! It's important to note that the paddler weight ranges are intended as a guide only, and there is no exact science to them - the widths published on the website are also maximum values that occur at a specific point - your Islay remains wider for longer, whereas the Leo is widest just behind the cockpit, but tapers relatively quickly from there. Different hull shapes also carry weight differently, and some may have a narrower window of load at which they perform optimally. With all these factors at play, it's far better to demo a kayak before purchase, rather than go off numbers alone. I'm 6'1" and 250lbs myself, and have paddled both the Leo HV and the Virgo HV without issue, although not with any hatch load - I am confident I could comfortably take enough kit for a long weekend at least though, as I've previously used a Delphin 155 for a fully-packed, 11-day expedition (albeit in a warm climate). If you're looking for the most spacious boat in our range, and want to be sure of gear capacity, then I'd point you to the Scorpio MKII HV.
@fergus..5 ай бұрын
The adjustment system for the side padding is awful, it does not stay in place, always moving about
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
If you'd like to chat with us about how to improve that fit for you, then just send us an email on [email protected]
@leoburns96745 ай бұрын
catching up to this… will the MV accept a “bear canister” in the rear hatch?
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
The diameter of the main bow (and certainly the main stern) hatch opening is enough to get in a BearVault, but only the height of the smallest (5 litre) canister would likely fit in the depth of the stern hatch, while in the bow hatch you could fit the next size up (7.2 litre).
@leoburns96745 ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks thanks for taking the time to research this! 😊👍
@PHSeaKayaks5 ай бұрын
@@leoburns9674 you're most welcome!
@billyhsu45676 ай бұрын
Great to see the composite Virgo. In addition to selecting the Ultralight version, what option combination would be the lightest? Thanks for any pointer.
@PHSeaKayaks6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and interest in our kayaks! If you're going for light over all else, then steer clear of almost any additions, stay away from Yellow, Orange, or Dark Blue gel coat colours, and choose a Custom Bulkhead Footrest. The Performance seat is marginally lighter than the Connect seat, but not enough to sacrifice comfort (if you prefer the comfort of the Connect seat, that is - a few do prefer the Performance - we have another video on our channel which looks at both seats in a little more detail). If you really want to go to the extreme with keeping weight minimal, we can also build the boat without the Day Hatch and/or Bow Mini Hatch (and their associated bulkheads). Thanks again! P&H
@billyhsu45676 ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Thank you very much for the prompt response.
@PHSeaKayaks6 ай бұрын
@@billyhsu4567 you're welcome!
@alanjones36567 ай бұрын
PnH if ya see this, make a 16'5" at 21 please!! You have spoiled me with my Scorp LV @ 21" and cannot go back wider!! Made too many paddles for my 21 wide boat!! LOL
@tuberider11718 ай бұрын
nice!
@ArnonBH8 ай бұрын
Hi Where I can order those seats?
@PHSeaKayaks8 ай бұрын
Via our dealer network: www.phseakayaks.com/find-a-dealer.php - best to call or email, as they may not list them online :)
@luki264611 ай бұрын
despite rinsing with fresh water afer every paddle skeg line snapped after less than a year of usage not the best quality ive instaled galvanised steel line as a replacment will see how long willl last
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
Hi there, This is unusual; the line has been very carefully selected for the purpose and typically lasts several years, even with frequent usage - we'd be happy to take a look if you'd like to email us on [email protected], or alternatively, raise the issue with the dealer through which the boat was purchased. Thank you!
@lukaszdobosz506411 ай бұрын
I'm trying to purchase skegline through p and h webside but you don't send to Ireland why is that's?
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
@@lukaszdobosz5064 unfortunately we're unable to ship directly to customers in the EU - please speak to your local dealer to order any spares or accessories.
@lukaszdobosz506411 ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks what is that British company cannot supply their customers in eu ? Get this sorted guys it's ridiculous. Last time I've asked my dealer to sort something out for me it took them a month
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
@@lukaszdobosz5064 Unfortunately not directly, no, but as the majority of our business is conducted through dealers we can help you out readily via those (as with boat purchases) - we're a small company, and many of the solutions to the issue are out of our reach and budget, but we are actively looking for solutions. Thank you.
@gferguson7311 ай бұрын
Iv just bought a new vergo, and the foot rest's come lose when I start to do a few power strokes which is very annoying, I paid a lot of money and thought this system would be better. I am going to have to able tie it or something in the hopes that it doesn't come lose anymore. PS it's the flag twist system I have.
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the issues you're experiencing! If you raise a warranty claim with the dealer you purchased the boats through, we'll work with them to get you sorted.
@flatheadfletch Жыл бұрын
I have a new Volan 160. The Connect seat makes the center of gravity to high. Plus my thighs are in the braces while legs are straight. How can I loosin up in the cockpit ?
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
Have you tried loosening off the backrest/footrests, and perhaps removing the hip pads? You could also swap the Connect seat for a Performance seat, which is more open at the hips and rises a little less towards the front.
@dc9mm2 Жыл бұрын
What is the thickness of the skeg BUNGEE not the pull cord but the bungee pulls the skep blade down as it looks really thin.
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
That would be a 4mm diameter bungee :)
@dc9mm2 Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Thanks
@pikemaster1972 Жыл бұрын
Amazing build quality
@lukaszdobosz5064 Жыл бұрын
Poor quality foot rests on both scorpio and delphin they falling of rails (plastic way to soft for that purpose) every one i know has boat only for few months 😮
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you're having issues! Please raise a warranty claim with your dealer and we'll work with them to get you sorted :)
@susanvokey9882 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an instruction sheet/video for replacing the skeg bungee cord? Mine finally rotted out :)
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
We don't have a video (yet!), but if you email us on [email protected] we can send you some written instructions :)
@NSkayaker11 ай бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Well, I emailed this address and was told to check with my local dealer? C'mon, has to be a central help spot for how to set up the skeg bungee around somewhere? Can't figure out what to do with the 2 zip ties that came in the package, and can't fit both ends of the bungee through the black stopper either. Picture instructions or video would be great for this (PH Delphin)
@PHSeaKayaks11 ай бұрын
@@NSkayaker you'll have received the standard autoreply from that email address, but I have checked and I do have your email and will reply within the next working day - thanks!
@flatheadfletch Жыл бұрын
You need to add a working man’s version of the Volan ! $6500 just unrealistic. !! How about a fiberglass version ?
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Is that CAN $ you're looking at? The Volan starts at $4,585 USD in Performance Kevlar/Diolen - we haven't used Fibreglass as a main construction material since the 70s as there are far better materials for our purposes for very little extra cost. The main cost is labour, and we have expert craftsmen who take time and care to build our sea kayaks to make them the best they can be, and we wouldn't ever compromise on that. If price is an issue, we'd recommend taking a look at one of our polyethylene models - the Leo and Virgo would be Volan-adjacent :)
@flatheadfletch Жыл бұрын
Update. Picking up my Volan 160 in the morning. Woohoo
@user-hr1lz8mv1o Жыл бұрын
👍
@lukaszdobosz5064 Жыл бұрын
Im wondering how would valkirie suit someone 197cm tall currently I'm using scorpio hv and it is to big and to bulky for me
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we don't think the Valkyrie would be the right fit for you - we'd recommend trying out the Leo HV or Virgo HV instead :)
@lukaszdobosz5064 Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks ok but according to p and h description valikirie has longer cokpit than scorpio hv bit narrower but that shouldn't be a problem
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
@@lukaszdobosz5064 we're not sure where you're reading that, but it is incorrect - the internal length of the cockpit rim on the Valkyrie is approx. 80cm, while on the Scorpio II HV it is approx. 82cm. The Valkyrie cockpit rim is also narrower overall and narrows much faster towards the front than the Scorpio's cockpit rim. The dimensions of the cockpit rim also do not describe the internal space of the cockpit, and there is much less internal room in the Valkyrie than in the Scorpio II HV. Our answer above was based on the real-life experience of our staff who are approaching your height (Chris Hipgrave, who is talking through the boat in this video, is one of those members of staff), and even though they are slightly shorter than you, they did not find much comfort room in the Valkyrie, hence our recommendation to you of the Leo HV or Virgo HV.
@GetOutandKayakMalta Жыл бұрын
awesome video! looking for p and h in Malta now 🙂
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Have you tried speaking to Kayaks and More? www.kayaksandmoremalta.com/
@joethi4981 Жыл бұрын
l have lots of kayaks🛶
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Good for you!
@joethi4981 Жыл бұрын
l have a lot of kayaks🛶
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
What's in your stable?
@matte-d349 Жыл бұрын
Wondering about the "Footrests glassed in" option in the "Customize" section of your website? Obviously they will no longer be adjustable, but wondering what the actual footrests look like with that option.
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Footrests are still adjustable when glassed-in, they're just mounted on glassed-in bolts rather than drilling through the hull and bolting through from the outside.
@matte-d349 Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Thank you! Good to know. Any upsides/downsides to either option, or is it just to not have the bolts visible from the outside?
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
@@matte-d349 no problem! Glassed-in footrests mean fewer holes through the hull so less chance of leaks, but they do make it a little harder to swap to different footrests if you wanted to in the future (i.e. if you installed a rudder and needed a toe pilot footrest).
@matte-d349 Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks Thanks again. Are the yakima footrests still available an option? I don't see it on the customization page.
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
@@matte-d349 not currently; unfortunately the supply is a little sporadic.
@PaddleDogC5 Жыл бұрын
How wide is the seat? I was thinking of a Cetus HV I was told they're 16" wide.
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
The Cetus HV Connect Seat is the widest, measuring approx. 45cm at the hips (without the hip pads fitted).
@robertgarfield8582 Жыл бұрын
Is there a particular silicone spray you recommend, or at least general type? Should it be a "dry" spray?
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
Any type of silicone lubricant spray :)
@Smartieboks2 жыл бұрын
I’m 165 cm tall. Should I go for LV or MV?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
Most likely the LV, unless you're approaching the top of the weight limit (80kg) or you're planning to carry a lot of gear with you - i.e. a long week in cold conditions or more.
@annettemackay59892 жыл бұрын
Where does one buy the yellow skeg rope?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
If you are in the UK/EU, you can purchase it on our webstore, here: store.phseakayaks.com/index.php/ph_en/outfitting/skeg/low-friction-skeg-line.html If you're in North America, please email [email protected] Thank you!
@perezfranco2 жыл бұрын
Voice so smooth I ended up buying the boat.
@perezfranco2 жыл бұрын
If I already own a Cetus, and I wanted to buy a play kayak, which would would be better choice for me: an Aries or a Volan?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
We'd say an Aries - then you have both sides of the coin, although we do know several people who own a Cetus and a Volan too.
@perezfranco Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks I tried a friend's Aries 155 and the thigh braces were a bit too low for my thick-as-hams thighs. I'm now thinking about a Volan 160. Would that be friendlier to chubby-legged paddlers? I fit a bit too snuggly on the unmodified Cetus MV, but comfortably after I lowered the seat a bit.
@PHSeaKayaks Жыл бұрын
@@perezfranco at 110kg and 6'1", I do find the Volan 160 more comfortable than the Aries 155, yes :)
@mikecoglione13082 жыл бұрын
Just got one this year it's a fabulous boat but I am still a little scared. Very, very fast, quickest boat I ever owned and responsive. What I like is that it is a very "mature" and complex boat in that it does various things well so it tracks really well but if you get it on edge it will turn on a dime almost like a packboat. The skeg really helps too in wind or waves, I just keep it down because it tends to make the boat more stable because... it's a bit tippy. I've always banked on more the stable and recreational-ish boats and the Volan is a handful. I haven't flipped it yet, haven't ever flipped a boat in almost 2 decades of paddling but this could be the first. What I don't like is you can't stop paddling it or you get in trouble. You have to stay on the power all the time. As long as you keep stroking forward then it's fine but if you want to stop and take a drink, snack or photos then better to get out of the boat and do it with your feet on the ground or bottom in shallow water. Am 6'4" pretty skinny and fit but still at this height I am thinking I should have waited for the HV version which is likely a little wider and likely more stable. Any news when that is coming out?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
Interesting feedback regarding the stability; we have heard the opposite from most! Perhaps it is your height... have you tried adding some load to the hatches at all? No firm timescale on the larger version just yet (it will likely be named the '166' or similar).
@mikecoglione1308 Жыл бұрын
@@PHSeaKayaks I think it is my height. Across most boats I tend to prefer wider ones and generally speaking find boats that are known as stable to be not so. The magic of composite construction that makes them so responsive unfortunately also makes these boats respond to all inputs. I would be very hesitant to take this boat out on open water but feel that way about most composites and still have my old Wilderness boats from 20 years ago for that reason. Most of my paddling is flat water but of course it's only flat if there's no wind as lakes and rivers can get pretty hairy too, maybe not nearly as challenging as the sea but certainly a handful if conditions rise up. I haven't tried loading the hatches. How would I go about doing that? How do you do it without having something rolling about as that can negatively influence stability. Filled water jugs maybe?
@flatheadfletch2 ай бұрын
I’m 5’11 and 207 lbs. I think the height of the seat off the bottom is what makes it feel tippy. Higher center of gravity ! This also makes it very responsive. I have no stability issues at all NOW that I’ve learned to slow my hip responses down. This yak responds so quick to body movement that it’s a whole new learning curve to be stable in !! I love mine. Zero regrets. I even fish from mine. Very very stable yak !!! Just have to learn new techniques !
@mikecoglione13082 ай бұрын
@@flatheadfletch I took some time and the boat hasn't settled down but what seems to settle it is bad water. No seriously like on a calm day this boat is kind of wasted its definitely faster but tippier than slower/stable boats. But when the wind kicks up and more "stable" boats feel like a drag the Volan just kind of sails on through the waves and allows one to go out on days that would give pause to lesser craft.
@crazygolf2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1995 p&H Orion boat I recently bought and would like to upgrade the seat as I suffer with lower back pain using the original fitted one. Do you have one that would fit your older boats?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, if your Orion has an ocean cockpit, then nothing else will fit - if it's the larger cockpit, then you could fit a backrest if none is present, but the only seat possibility is the one fitted - email us some photos of the cockpit and seat if you like and we can confirm: [email protected]
@pikemaster19722 жыл бұрын
I’d avoid P&H they discontinued hatch covers making the lifespan of the boat short to force customers to buy a newer model
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The case you're referring to is a polyethylene model which was produced by a third party before we took ownership of the brand, producing both composite and polyethylene models in house ourselves. Examples of the particular model in question are at least 18 years old, and therefore well beyond the 12-year maximum advisable lifespan of a polyethylene kayak (based on research conducted by ourselves and our supplier, but not a stretch of the imagination if you think of the longevity of any plastic item designed for outdoor use, most of which aren't intended for use in extreme environments where the user's life depends on their durability). Moreover, the quality of the hatch covers was not reflective of our standards, and rather than having an average lifespan matching or exceeding that of the kayak shell itself (as is the case with the KajakSport hatch covers we've used on all models since we took ownership of the P&H brand), often required replacing after just a few years. The mould used for their production had also reached the point where it required replacing, which would have bumped the cost of the replacements up significantly. In short, contrary to your statement, we discontinued those items as no longer felt it was responsible to enable the continued use of those boats long past their advisable lifespan, and also as the items did not meet the standards we strive for and customers expect from P&H. More information can be found, here: www.phseakayaks.com/blog/the-sun-is-setting-on-pre-2004-ph-capella-product-support/ Thank you.
@pikemaster19722 жыл бұрын
I’d avoid buying Pand H products as they have a tendency to discontinue hatches for example meaning boat has limited life span . Stay with Valley
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The case you're referring to is a polyethylene model which was produced by a third party before we took ownership of the brand, producing both composite and polyethylene models in house ourselves. Examples of the particular model in question are at least 18 years old, and therefore well beyond the 12-year maximum advisable lifespan of a polyethylene kayak (based on research conducted by ourselves and our supplier, but not a stretch of the imagination if you think of the longevity of any plastic item designed for outdoor use, most of which aren't intended for use in extreme environments where the user's life depends on their durability). Moreover, the quality of the hatch covers was not reflective of our standards, and rather than having an average lifespan matching or exceeding that of the kayak shell itself (as is the case with the KajakSport hatch covers we've used on all models since we took ownership of the P&H brand), often required replacing after just a few years. Valley still use a similar compound for the construction of their current hatch covers as those we have discontinued. The mould used for their production had also reached the point where it required replacing, which would have bumped the cost of the replacements up significantly. In short, contrary to your statement, we discontinued those items as no longer felt it was responsible to enable the continued use of those boats long past their advisable lifespan, and also as the items did not meet the standards we strive for and customers expect from P&H. More information can be found, here: www.phseakayaks.com/blog/the-sun-is-setting-on-pre-2004-ph-capella-product-support/ Thank you.
@perezfranco2 жыл бұрын
What is the paddle this lady in the video is using?
@PHSeaKayaks2 жыл бұрын
They're a set of VE paddles - unsure which model!
@MrClingclong2 жыл бұрын
That gentleman could make a fortune doing voiceover work. It's a voice I could listen to all day!
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Can you tell me what the difference there is between composite and fiberglass - are they essentially the same thing?
'Composite' is a general term relating to any kayak which is made from a woven material wetted with resin. 'Fiberglass' is often used interchangeably with 'Composite', but in reality refers to a specific type of composite material. We have not used fiberglass as a main construction material in our kayaks since the 70s; the nearest equivalent we use is 'Diolen', which is a nylon-like weave, and far less brittle - we also build composite sea kayaks using Carbon, Kevlar/Carbon, and Kevlar/Diolen weaves, and incorporate polyester or vinylester resin either via 'wet layup', 'vacuum bagging', or 'infusion' processes, depending on the section of kayak and overall spec.
Must I remove the Connect seat to re-tighten the hip pads? I was able to flip the buckle up to loosen them to remove a shim but its impossible to tighten them. I can't seem to do it with the buckle visible, but reaching behind to grasp and pull the strap is impossible.
No need to remove the seat! Make sure you're working across the kayak (i.e. stand on the left to access the RHS hip pad, and vice versa), and then push the strap through as far as you can from the back of the seat, before reaching in from the front to grab and pull it tight. The space is a little tight, but it should be doable - if not, consider enlisting the help of someone with smaller hands, or using a pair of pliers or similar.
@@PHSeaKayaks Just the job for my lady friend!
P&H Scorpio MK II kayak with leaking bulkheads. This model after the recent facelift is just very poor quality . Full on new kayaks with bulges and small blisters . Leaking luggage compartment hatches as well as bulkheads . This is some kind of scandal that the most expensive polyethylene kayak on the market is so poorly made . Change the factory in China for some more professional because the one in which you produce these junk is definitely at the initial stage and as you can see from the workmanship and finish kayaks are just learning this technology sandwich . I was in Dublin a few days ago in a shop called I-Canoe which is a dealer of your brand and my hands fell as I saw exactly 3 Scorpio MK II's ! - It is simply a scandal how carelessly they are made ! . I was going to buy one for myself but have effectively cured myself of this intention . Maybe nautically they are good kayaks that work well on the water , but the quality of their workmanship for the price at which they are sold is some kind of grim joke ! .
Hi Stanley, Thanks for choosing our kayaks - have you reached out to your dealer or ourselves with regards to getting the issue you're experiencing resolved? You're more than welcome to contact us on [email protected] with more information. If you're local to or ever passing Runcorn, where we've made each and every plastic canoe and kayak under all our brands since 1976 or so (when rotomoulded kayaks were first introduced), then we'd be glad to show you around, explain the process to you, and show you exactly how much work and passion we pour in to each and every one we build. Thanks.
Thanks for the overview. Interesting that smaller and larger models are coming. I have been able to do test paddles in a Cetus MV and HV, and found the HV far more comfortable for me; the MV pushed my knees down way too far. Is the Volan 160 cockpit ergonomics closer to the Cetus MV or HV?
Hi Matt, thanks for your comment! The Volan 160 is more spacious with a slightly higher knee position when compared to the Cetus HV :)
@@PHSeaKayaks That's great, thanks! Do you have any "recommended paddler weight/height" for the Volan 158/160? Or Cetus' for that matter? I am 5'11" and ~205lbs. Thanks!
@@matte-d349 yes indeed - all listed on our website if you hover over 'Kayaks' in the top menu, click on 'Models', click on the model you want to look at, and scroll down a little. Max. Paddler Weights for the models you mention are: Volan 158: 245lbs Volan 160: 265lbs Cetus LV: 232lbs Cetus MV: 254lbs Cetus HV: 308lbs We'd recommend you look primarily to the Volan 160 or Cetus MV - the Cetus HV may also be an option if you want to carry a little more gear.
I've had a volan for a couple years and really started enjoying it this year. My initial problem was the seat was too far forward and the rear lip of the seat made me feel like I had to prop myself up. Some minor changes of position with my dealer helped immensely. The boat is not for beginners but is very confidence inspiring. It's not super stable when you're not moving like a recreational boat but it has incredible secondary stability so you can hold edge or just move it around with enormous confidence. It is very, very hard to flip and the more wind or waves show up, the more confidence inspiring this boat becomes. Most people think that a following sea is good because you don't have to paddle as hard but in most boats a current from the back makes your yak want to weathercock sideways to then flip you. Not the Volan wow this kayak holds its stability and line amazing with both a cross wave or current behind. Its effortless to paddle. Like I said the worse the conditions get the more stable and nimble it feels. If you feel like you need to pick your days because of weather and you have at least some experience or skill this is a fantastic boat that gives enormous room for a progressing beginner or intermediate paddler to grow. Can cruise at 4mph all day barely trying with heart rate in zone 2 110-120's or exceed 7mph (according to Garmin and Strava) on full bore power. Speed is effortless, want to go faster just paddle a little harder there's plenty of hull to soak up the effort and you don't have to try very hard to go very fast. You can feel it and see the shore just cranking by. Obviously these high end designs don't come cheap, but aside from minor seat problems that were easily fixed with minor modifications it absolutely feels like a high end boat. It has changed how I look at the water. Now a "bad" day in terms of wind or waves is actually a "very good one" thanks to the Volan. I used to look at the P&H facebook page and think those exploits were absolutely insane and these paddlers were foolhardy to try to pull their mind blowing exploits. When you've paddled most kayaks, that assumption is correct you'd think those videos and adventures of being in waves bigger than most buildings would be impossible; not until you paddled a P&H boat. Wonderful, thank you, I cannot lay enough praise on this fantastic boat. It shows you have spent a huge amount of time with R&D to crank out something amazing. I will never get rid of my stellar boats because they are smaller, lighter, more portable and fun in their own way. Can you make a Volan double? Like a "Volan LV 190" for me and the wife? Make it ~24-25" wide, 19-20ft long, similar hull. Yah I know 2x kayaks don't sell well... Anyway thanks again I am very grateful for my paddling journey to have hooked me up with the Volan. Credit deserves to be given for a fantastic job that was fabulously engineered and executed. Many thanks
This is my dream kayak, I would love to have it but probably it's just a wish 😔
Keep dreaming, and we'll keep our fingers crossed we can build a Cetus for you one day!
How come you guys make such amazing and excellent kayaks? Better than anything in North America.
Must be something in the water... 😜 We are quite lucky to have a variety of world-class sea kayaking spots all within a reasonable drive here in the UK!
@@joethi4981 The UK seems to have a high sea kayak makers per capita ratio: P&H, NDK, Rockpool, Valley...
I ordered a custom built Volan. Picked the kayak up in April 2024. The Volan is nimble. Fast. Tracks well without the use of the skeg. However, I do have complaints. I spent a great deal of money for the Volan. My rear/stern hatch leaks. I have water tested it and have come to the conclusion that the water is leaking in through the skeg box. Another problem I had is when attempting to lock my kayak the u-metal joint just immediately popped out. P &H didn’t use a washer or wing nut to fasten this attachment rendering the u-joint useless. Finally, I used the Customizer to put my kayak together. I ordered the standard foot pegs. Not glassed in. What did I receive? A square foot peg attached to a rubber-instead of hard plastic-adjustment line. That is glassed in. Oh. There is glue residue along my cockpit coating. Quality of build on my Volan is poor. And I received parts I didn’t order. If P & H didn’t have specific parts then that company should of contacted me . None of my other friends who paddle the Volan have problems with their P & H kayaks. I got a real ‘dud’ though. Hope P & H contacts me to rectify my concerns. I paid a great deal of money for my kayak and am not happy…Regards
Hi Paul, Thanks for choosing our kayaks, and glad to hear the positives you've experienced - sorry to hear of the issues, however. Can we ask if you've raised any of those items with your dealer in the course of a warranty claim? We'd be very happy to work with them to investigate and resolve if possible.
I have contacted my dealer. He’s been cooperative. Presently, he’s out of town on an expedition. Since he left I’ve discovered more problems with the kayak. The dealer knows about the leakage situation, but not the other problems.For instance, my dealer was going to send me the foot pegs I ordered. That was good for me until I discovered that P & H glassed my foot pegs in. That option is on the P & H Customizer which I chose not to get. But somehow, I received glassed-in foot pegs. I will contact my dealer when he returns from his trip.
@@paulmartin5889 please keep in touch with your dealer, but feel free to email us on [email protected] if you need us to step in for any reason. We do glass the footrests in as standard on all Infusion layups - it's important to note that this does not mean the footrests are permanently attached - it just means the bolts affixed internally, rather than being drilled through the hull from the outside. You can still swap footrests to any of similar bolt sizing and spacings, which is the case for most footrest systems.
Which is more capable, this or Volan ?
It depends on your preferences, experience, and intentions really! Can you tell us a little more about those?
Recently used a few of the poly boats to run some island tours, great quality boats for the price.
Very helpful. Thsnks!
Какая цена?
From £2,995 / €3,495 :)
@@PHSeaKayaks 😮 350,000₽ Пожалуй возьму китайца пластик за 70000₽ 700€
@@adison6340 У разницы в цене есть веская причина - на самом деле несколько веских причин! Мы надеемся, что вы найдете что-то, что подойдет вашим целям и бюджету :)
Thank you! Is there a skudder demonstration video? All the best!
I purchased the Volan 160 a year ago, wow ! So very responsive. This yak moves so much quicker in every way, at 42lbs it has become an extension of my body effortlessly. At 63yo and 215lbs I’m loving it. First new yak I ever bought !
Fantastic! Thank you so much for choosing our kayaks, and especially for letting us know how much you're enjoying it!
Hi P&H. Thanks for the video. Do you have any video or comments on adding a short rope or similar to the skeg so my buddy can pull it out when already in the water and it is jammed with a small stone or sand? It happens quite often unless I tip toe into the water 🙂. I don't want to drill before checking with someone.
Hey Marcos, For that, use a sharp, 3mm drill bit, and carefully drill a hole at least 5mm from any edge of the skeg blade, towards the bottom of the blade at the end closest to the stern, while supporting it on the other side with a block of wood (taking care not to drill your hand!) Once drilled, trim the hole with sharp blade, then thread a length of 2mm dyneema through - we then tie two overhand knots, plait it, tie another overhand about half way down, plait it some more, then tie off with a stopper knot - you can do whatever you wish though, but we'd recommend you don't create a loop that could snag on rocks or anything and damage the blade. Hope that helps! Mat
@@PHSeaKayaks Got it done. I spoke with one of the PH guys at Canoecopia...thanks.
@@marcosgarcianorris great to hear! Happy paddling!
Big time disappointment. Went to sit in the Virgo HV to try out the fit and wow, it’s way too tight across the hips, guess these boats are for the super skinny. I’m 6’2” tall, 240 lbs, 40” waist and it’s super tight because the seat sides taper inward towards the seat back. To fit in there with the hip pads you’d need a 36” waist. My size 13 feet were also catching on the back of the deck pod. Maybe you could make one that’s made for a larger person.
Sorry to hear that! It sounds like you were sitting in the boat with the hip pads - many actually prefer to go without these (it allows easier trunk rotation for more efficient forward paddling, which of course, is the majority of sea kayaking!), and there are pre-installed foam shims that can be removed if you find them too tight but don't want to lose them completely. It's also important that you make sure they're adjusted to hook over your hips, rather than press into them. I'm a similar size to you (6'1", 250lbs, 40" waist - but only UK 9.5 feet) and found I was relatively comfortable in the boat, so I am confident there is hope for you to find comfort too! I'm surprised your feet were catching on the deck pod, as they should be well past it at your height - are you sure it wasn't another internal fitting the were touching? Perhaps try adjusting the footrests to a slightly different position, or positioning your feet on them differently. We can fit the footrests to a custom position if required, and/or build a boat without the deck pod for you. If you're looking for a boat with guaranteed comfort room, then I'd recommend taking a look at the Scorpio MKII HV.
I’m 6’2” 240lbs, currently I paddle the Venture Islay 14’. Do you think I’ll notice a speed or performance gain with the Virgo HV?
Yes, absolutely - the Virgo's hull is certainly more performance-orientated than the Islay's, without sacrificing too much stability.
Why is the Leo HV paddler weight so low. 124kg/245lbs? I have a Venture Islay 14 that I purchased back in 2014 ish and it’s paddler weight is 285 lbs. It’s the same width but shorter by 2’. I’m wanting to upgrade to the Virgo HV or Leo HV, but I’m 6’2” 240 lbs. so I’m guessing the Leo HV is not an option.
Thanks for the comment! It's important to note that the paddler weight ranges are intended as a guide only, and there is no exact science to them - the widths published on the website are also maximum values that occur at a specific point - your Islay remains wider for longer, whereas the Leo is widest just behind the cockpit, but tapers relatively quickly from there. Different hull shapes also carry weight differently, and some may have a narrower window of load at which they perform optimally. With all these factors at play, it's far better to demo a kayak before purchase, rather than go off numbers alone. I'm 6'1" and 250lbs myself, and have paddled both the Leo HV and the Virgo HV without issue, although not with any hatch load - I am confident I could comfortably take enough kit for a long weekend at least though, as I've previously used a Delphin 155 for a fully-packed, 11-day expedition (albeit in a warm climate). If you're looking for the most spacious boat in our range, and want to be sure of gear capacity, then I'd point you to the Scorpio MKII HV.
The adjustment system for the side padding is awful, it does not stay in place, always moving about
If you'd like to chat with us about how to improve that fit for you, then just send us an email on [email protected]
catching up to this… will the MV accept a “bear canister” in the rear hatch?
The diameter of the main bow (and certainly the main stern) hatch opening is enough to get in a BearVault, but only the height of the smallest (5 litre) canister would likely fit in the depth of the stern hatch, while in the bow hatch you could fit the next size up (7.2 litre).
@@PHSeaKayaks thanks for taking the time to research this! 😊👍
@@leoburns9674 you're most welcome!
Great to see the composite Virgo. In addition to selecting the Ultralight version, what option combination would be the lightest? Thanks for any pointer.
Thanks for your comment and interest in our kayaks! If you're going for light over all else, then steer clear of almost any additions, stay away from Yellow, Orange, or Dark Blue gel coat colours, and choose a Custom Bulkhead Footrest. The Performance seat is marginally lighter than the Connect seat, but not enough to sacrifice comfort (if you prefer the comfort of the Connect seat, that is - a few do prefer the Performance - we have another video on our channel which looks at both seats in a little more detail). If you really want to go to the extreme with keeping weight minimal, we can also build the boat without the Day Hatch and/or Bow Mini Hatch (and their associated bulkheads). Thanks again! P&H
@@PHSeaKayaks Thank you very much for the prompt response.
@@billyhsu4567 you're welcome!
PnH if ya see this, make a 16'5" at 21 please!! You have spoiled me with my Scorp LV @ 21" and cannot go back wider!! Made too many paddles for my 21 wide boat!! LOL
nice!
Hi Where I can order those seats?
Via our dealer network: www.phseakayaks.com/find-a-dealer.php - best to call or email, as they may not list them online :)
despite rinsing with fresh water afer every paddle skeg line snapped after less than a year of usage not the best quality ive instaled galvanised steel line as a replacment will see how long willl last
Hi there, This is unusual; the line has been very carefully selected for the purpose and typically lasts several years, even with frequent usage - we'd be happy to take a look if you'd like to email us on [email protected], or alternatively, raise the issue with the dealer through which the boat was purchased. Thank you!
I'm trying to purchase skegline through p and h webside but you don't send to Ireland why is that's?
@@lukaszdobosz5064 unfortunately we're unable to ship directly to customers in the EU - please speak to your local dealer to order any spares or accessories.
@@PHSeaKayaks what is that British company cannot supply their customers in eu ? Get this sorted guys it's ridiculous. Last time I've asked my dealer to sort something out for me it took them a month
@@lukaszdobosz5064 Unfortunately not directly, no, but as the majority of our business is conducted through dealers we can help you out readily via those (as with boat purchases) - we're a small company, and many of the solutions to the issue are out of our reach and budget, but we are actively looking for solutions. Thank you.
Iv just bought a new vergo, and the foot rest's come lose when I start to do a few power strokes which is very annoying, I paid a lot of money and thought this system would be better. I am going to have to able tie it or something in the hopes that it doesn't come lose anymore. PS it's the flag twist system I have.
Sorry to hear about the issues you're experiencing! If you raise a warranty claim with the dealer you purchased the boats through, we'll work with them to get you sorted.
I have a new Volan 160. The Connect seat makes the center of gravity to high. Plus my thighs are in the braces while legs are straight. How can I loosin up in the cockpit ?
Have you tried loosening off the backrest/footrests, and perhaps removing the hip pads? You could also swap the Connect seat for a Performance seat, which is more open at the hips and rises a little less towards the front.
What is the thickness of the skeg BUNGEE not the pull cord but the bungee pulls the skep blade down as it looks really thin.
That would be a 4mm diameter bungee :)
@@PHSeaKayaks Thanks
Amazing build quality
Poor quality foot rests on both scorpio and delphin they falling of rails (plastic way to soft for that purpose) every one i know has boat only for few months 😮
Sorry to hear you're having issues! Please raise a warranty claim with your dealer and we'll work with them to get you sorted :)
Do you have an instruction sheet/video for replacing the skeg bungee cord? Mine finally rotted out :)
We don't have a video (yet!), but if you email us on [email protected] we can send you some written instructions :)
@@PHSeaKayaks Well, I emailed this address and was told to check with my local dealer? C'mon, has to be a central help spot for how to set up the skeg bungee around somewhere? Can't figure out what to do with the 2 zip ties that came in the package, and can't fit both ends of the bungee through the black stopper either. Picture instructions or video would be great for this (PH Delphin)
@@NSkayaker you'll have received the standard autoreply from that email address, but I have checked and I do have your email and will reply within the next working day - thanks!
You need to add a working man’s version of the Volan ! $6500 just unrealistic. !! How about a fiberglass version ?
Is that CAN $ you're looking at? The Volan starts at $4,585 USD in Performance Kevlar/Diolen - we haven't used Fibreglass as a main construction material since the 70s as there are far better materials for our purposes for very little extra cost. The main cost is labour, and we have expert craftsmen who take time and care to build our sea kayaks to make them the best they can be, and we wouldn't ever compromise on that. If price is an issue, we'd recommend taking a look at one of our polyethylene models - the Leo and Virgo would be Volan-adjacent :)
Update. Picking up my Volan 160 in the morning. Woohoo
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Im wondering how would valkirie suit someone 197cm tall currently I'm using scorpio hv and it is to big and to bulky for me
Unfortunately, we don't think the Valkyrie would be the right fit for you - we'd recommend trying out the Leo HV or Virgo HV instead :)
@@PHSeaKayaks ok but according to p and h description valikirie has longer cokpit than scorpio hv bit narrower but that shouldn't be a problem
@@lukaszdobosz5064 we're not sure where you're reading that, but it is incorrect - the internal length of the cockpit rim on the Valkyrie is approx. 80cm, while on the Scorpio II HV it is approx. 82cm. The Valkyrie cockpit rim is also narrower overall and narrows much faster towards the front than the Scorpio's cockpit rim. The dimensions of the cockpit rim also do not describe the internal space of the cockpit, and there is much less internal room in the Valkyrie than in the Scorpio II HV. Our answer above was based on the real-life experience of our staff who are approaching your height (Chris Hipgrave, who is talking through the boat in this video, is one of those members of staff), and even though they are slightly shorter than you, they did not find much comfort room in the Valkyrie, hence our recommendation to you of the Leo HV or Virgo HV.
awesome video! looking for p and h in Malta now 🙂
Thank you! Have you tried speaking to Kayaks and More? www.kayaksandmoremalta.com/
l have lots of kayaks🛶
Good for you!
l have a lot of kayaks🛶
What's in your stable?
Wondering about the "Footrests glassed in" option in the "Customize" section of your website? Obviously they will no longer be adjustable, but wondering what the actual footrests look like with that option.
Footrests are still adjustable when glassed-in, they're just mounted on glassed-in bolts rather than drilling through the hull and bolting through from the outside.
@@PHSeaKayaks Thank you! Good to know. Any upsides/downsides to either option, or is it just to not have the bolts visible from the outside?
@@matte-d349 no problem! Glassed-in footrests mean fewer holes through the hull so less chance of leaks, but they do make it a little harder to swap to different footrests if you wanted to in the future (i.e. if you installed a rudder and needed a toe pilot footrest).
@@PHSeaKayaks Thanks again. Are the yakima footrests still available an option? I don't see it on the customization page.
@@matte-d349 not currently; unfortunately the supply is a little sporadic.
How wide is the seat? I was thinking of a Cetus HV I was told they're 16" wide.
The Cetus HV Connect Seat is the widest, measuring approx. 45cm at the hips (without the hip pads fitted).
Is there a particular silicone spray you recommend, or at least general type? Should it be a "dry" spray?
Any type of silicone lubricant spray :)
I’m 165 cm tall. Should I go for LV or MV?
Most likely the LV, unless you're approaching the top of the weight limit (80kg) or you're planning to carry a lot of gear with you - i.e. a long week in cold conditions or more.
Where does one buy the yellow skeg rope?
If you are in the UK/EU, you can purchase it on our webstore, here: store.phseakayaks.com/index.php/ph_en/outfitting/skeg/low-friction-skeg-line.html If you're in North America, please email [email protected] Thank you!
Voice so smooth I ended up buying the boat.
If I already own a Cetus, and I wanted to buy a play kayak, which would would be better choice for me: an Aries or a Volan?
We'd say an Aries - then you have both sides of the coin, although we do know several people who own a Cetus and a Volan too.
@@PHSeaKayaks I tried a friend's Aries 155 and the thigh braces were a bit too low for my thick-as-hams thighs. I'm now thinking about a Volan 160. Would that be friendlier to chubby-legged paddlers? I fit a bit too snuggly on the unmodified Cetus MV, but comfortably after I lowered the seat a bit.
@@perezfranco at 110kg and 6'1", I do find the Volan 160 more comfortable than the Aries 155, yes :)
Just got one this year it's a fabulous boat but I am still a little scared. Very, very fast, quickest boat I ever owned and responsive. What I like is that it is a very "mature" and complex boat in that it does various things well so it tracks really well but if you get it on edge it will turn on a dime almost like a packboat. The skeg really helps too in wind or waves, I just keep it down because it tends to make the boat more stable because... it's a bit tippy. I've always banked on more the stable and recreational-ish boats and the Volan is a handful. I haven't flipped it yet, haven't ever flipped a boat in almost 2 decades of paddling but this could be the first. What I don't like is you can't stop paddling it or you get in trouble. You have to stay on the power all the time. As long as you keep stroking forward then it's fine but if you want to stop and take a drink, snack or photos then better to get out of the boat and do it with your feet on the ground or bottom in shallow water. Am 6'4" pretty skinny and fit but still at this height I am thinking I should have waited for the HV version which is likely a little wider and likely more stable. Any news when that is coming out?
Interesting feedback regarding the stability; we have heard the opposite from most! Perhaps it is your height... have you tried adding some load to the hatches at all? No firm timescale on the larger version just yet (it will likely be named the '166' or similar).
@@PHSeaKayaks I think it is my height. Across most boats I tend to prefer wider ones and generally speaking find boats that are known as stable to be not so. The magic of composite construction that makes them so responsive unfortunately also makes these boats respond to all inputs. I would be very hesitant to take this boat out on open water but feel that way about most composites and still have my old Wilderness boats from 20 years ago for that reason. Most of my paddling is flat water but of course it's only flat if there's no wind as lakes and rivers can get pretty hairy too, maybe not nearly as challenging as the sea but certainly a handful if conditions rise up. I haven't tried loading the hatches. How would I go about doing that? How do you do it without having something rolling about as that can negatively influence stability. Filled water jugs maybe?
I’m 5’11 and 207 lbs. I think the height of the seat off the bottom is what makes it feel tippy. Higher center of gravity ! This also makes it very responsive. I have no stability issues at all NOW that I’ve learned to slow my hip responses down. This yak responds so quick to body movement that it’s a whole new learning curve to be stable in !! I love mine. Zero regrets. I even fish from mine. Very very stable yak !!! Just have to learn new techniques !
@@flatheadfletch I took some time and the boat hasn't settled down but what seems to settle it is bad water. No seriously like on a calm day this boat is kind of wasted its definitely faster but tippier than slower/stable boats. But when the wind kicks up and more "stable" boats feel like a drag the Volan just kind of sails on through the waves and allows one to go out on days that would give pause to lesser craft.
I have a 1995 p&H Orion boat I recently bought and would like to upgrade the seat as I suffer with lower back pain using the original fitted one. Do you have one that would fit your older boats?
Hi Simon, if your Orion has an ocean cockpit, then nothing else will fit - if it's the larger cockpit, then you could fit a backrest if none is present, but the only seat possibility is the one fitted - email us some photos of the cockpit and seat if you like and we can confirm: [email protected]
I’d avoid P&H they discontinued hatch covers making the lifespan of the boat short to force customers to buy a newer model
Thanks for your comment. The case you're referring to is a polyethylene model which was produced by a third party before we took ownership of the brand, producing both composite and polyethylene models in house ourselves. Examples of the particular model in question are at least 18 years old, and therefore well beyond the 12-year maximum advisable lifespan of a polyethylene kayak (based on research conducted by ourselves and our supplier, but not a stretch of the imagination if you think of the longevity of any plastic item designed for outdoor use, most of which aren't intended for use in extreme environments where the user's life depends on their durability). Moreover, the quality of the hatch covers was not reflective of our standards, and rather than having an average lifespan matching or exceeding that of the kayak shell itself (as is the case with the KajakSport hatch covers we've used on all models since we took ownership of the P&H brand), often required replacing after just a few years. The mould used for their production had also reached the point where it required replacing, which would have bumped the cost of the replacements up significantly. In short, contrary to your statement, we discontinued those items as no longer felt it was responsible to enable the continued use of those boats long past their advisable lifespan, and also as the items did not meet the standards we strive for and customers expect from P&H. More information can be found, here: www.phseakayaks.com/blog/the-sun-is-setting-on-pre-2004-ph-capella-product-support/ Thank you.
I’d avoid buying Pand H products as they have a tendency to discontinue hatches for example meaning boat has limited life span . Stay with Valley
Thanks for your comment. The case you're referring to is a polyethylene model which was produced by a third party before we took ownership of the brand, producing both composite and polyethylene models in house ourselves. Examples of the particular model in question are at least 18 years old, and therefore well beyond the 12-year maximum advisable lifespan of a polyethylene kayak (based on research conducted by ourselves and our supplier, but not a stretch of the imagination if you think of the longevity of any plastic item designed for outdoor use, most of which aren't intended for use in extreme environments where the user's life depends on their durability). Moreover, the quality of the hatch covers was not reflective of our standards, and rather than having an average lifespan matching or exceeding that of the kayak shell itself (as is the case with the KajakSport hatch covers we've used on all models since we took ownership of the P&H brand), often required replacing after just a few years. Valley still use a similar compound for the construction of their current hatch covers as those we have discontinued. The mould used for their production had also reached the point where it required replacing, which would have bumped the cost of the replacements up significantly. In short, contrary to your statement, we discontinued those items as no longer felt it was responsible to enable the continued use of those boats long past their advisable lifespan, and also as the items did not meet the standards we strive for and customers expect from P&H. More information can be found, here: www.phseakayaks.com/blog/the-sun-is-setting-on-pre-2004-ph-capella-product-support/ Thank you.
What is the paddle this lady in the video is using?
They're a set of VE paddles - unsure which model!
That gentleman could make a fortune doing voiceover work. It's a voice I could listen to all day!
We agree 100%!
@@PHSeaKayaks voice smooth as silk!