I'm wondering if it'll show your self damage if they have the Ball and another 2 cost card? It seems like a lot of information. You know that they don't have 3-cost cards in hand (Gilded?), and maybe no 2-cost as well
@ofcitszen10 күн бұрын
yea, it gives a lot of info. If they have another 2-cost card as well, then it's up to rng whether it picks the Ball or not, but if it does you still get notified just like this
@peggyschmutt9410 күн бұрын
Let's go
@danielgoma890711 күн бұрын
From this video and a few others I’ve come up with a Navia Dehya Albedo deck that puts down both Dehya and Albedo’s summons on turn one and then stalls while using albedo burst to threaten enemy carries till Navia has the melusine claymore super stacked to finish the job
@ofcitszen10 күн бұрын
sounds pretty good :O
@4nime_Is_Life14 күн бұрын
*ITTO* use 13:55
@smolfloaty14 күн бұрын
i cant figure out what was the misplay on your end. still trying to understand and get used to the new meta.
@ofcitszen14 күн бұрын
dunno either. perhaps not having the new drill polearm made the difference between winning and losing
@Catsareaddorable14 күн бұрын
Will zen make a chevreuse deck?:D
@ofcitszen14 күн бұрын
already did in my previosu video :p
@nullzeon14 күн бұрын
where the heck did this new Liyue deck even come from??
@ofcitszen14 күн бұрын
some guy used it in the prince cup tournament and it's been going around ever since
@aspillust14 күн бұрын
ooh yay navia deck! i've been using furina and albedo with her and so far it's been going well, i have to keep an eye on my hp and dice but otherwise it's pretty smooth and generates a decent amount of crystallize :)
@Koni_Han15 күн бұрын
negligible damage💀
@menuvafei616415 күн бұрын
does navia, albedo, and kuki work? Or does navia, gorou, kuki work? Or possibly mona albedo navia? swap swap
@ofcitszen14 күн бұрын
they all work tbh, but none of them can compete with the top meta decks imo :/ anyway i think kuki + fast action switch might be the best choice
@hidehaise15 күн бұрын
i started using electro cicin and albedo for guranteed crystalize thru the summons and now the new fast action albedos summon gives 🫂
@hidehaise15 күн бұрын
prob not optimal but I FINALLY HAVE AN EXCUSE TO USE ALBEDO 🙏
@adamolition870215 күн бұрын
You do know you couldve used the Shrapnels, and for each one used you also draw one card. All you needed was 2 shrapnels drawn from the deck to kill him haha. Doable.
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
use the shrapnel and hope for another shrapnel? that's wild, but not a bad idea
@adamolition870214 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen i mean, better than giving up 🙃
@jiaquu15 күн бұрын
have u tried the melusine support yet its super fun (unless u have bad luck) it also works with navia bc of melusine claymore
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
i havent yet, need to try it out asap
@rii604615 күн бұрын
If u added new Lynnette card to break that freeze and those new Melusines cards those can gave you 2 food cards for free but its RNG based tho kinda risky. I saw someone recommending adding Mona instead of Deya for free quick action and free crystallization reaction.. Anyways looking forward for more decks form u man lets enjoy this patch and keep on experimenting .
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
lots of experimenting to do... lots of rng to enjoy
@sharmeenkhan833015 күн бұрын
bro i fought this deck with that card back too but in na
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
what a coincidence
@Marti69xD15 күн бұрын
Maybe dehya + albedo 👍🏻
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
perhaps, since albedo did get a buff after all
@Cry_Neon625015 күн бұрын
Have you tried mona instead of Deyha? I find a get a ton more crystals because of mona's fast swap
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
I have actually, and I think Mona pairs better with Navia. Plus, Navia doesn't seem like a stall character at all, so putting her in an aggro one with Mona is probably better. That said, I just wanted to try her out in DIN to see how it fares :p
@Cry_Neon625015 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen yeah fair enough lol Though I like how now we can have MIN (mona, Itto, Navia)
@danielssuarez481315 күн бұрын
new Lynnette card would've been good in that case , helps u with that freeze 🥶
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
wait you're right... that's insane
@danielssuarez481315 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen yeah, still was a very good game, can't wait to see the next one.
@user-bd4mb2lw6p15 күн бұрын
GG Zen, you did great
@Aka_Izuna15 күн бұрын
What is that cardback?
@agnozythehearthead984315 күн бұрын
It was given out today to Cat's Tail TCG players, a commemorative gift
@YouW1llNeverKnow15 күн бұрын
@@agnozythehearthead9843 To everyone or just those who play the TCG?
@hidehaise15 күн бұрын
@@YouW1llNeverKnoweveryone🎉
@nekonochesire602315 күн бұрын
Had the feeling but yeah Dehya alone isn't enough to get the shrapnel going
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
yea... it's kinda hard to get crystallize going
@TheSKTelecom15 күн бұрын
for cyno/chevy : drill is better than moonpiercer
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
i figured out by now, but thanks for telling. the drill is hella good
@moomoo694915 күн бұрын
Would gorou work better instead of Itto in this deck??
@Cry_Neon625015 күн бұрын
This deck works cause of Itto's summon to proc crystallize for Navia, its harder to get crystals with gorou since you can only get the consistently with his burst being up unless you run a lot of quick swap. Kojo creations did a stream with that deck in question though so it's worth checking that out to see if you like how it plays
@Mouradmourad-cz1of15 күн бұрын
Maybe try raiden instead of dehya, then you can use navia burst for more crystals
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
nah, going for raiden burst doesn't work in this meta because meta decks deal too much damage (threatening raiden's life) and raiden takes 1 and a half rounds to burst. That's why I can't use Shenhe SC anymore either :(
@CLTh4nos11 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszencan the arcane card protect her?
@thienphung840016 күн бұрын
13:29 you could have won there if u had Cyno talent which gives u +2 damage on that hit I suggest bring 2 so u can do +2 dam 2 times in 1 turn if needed, ggs
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
relying on getting cyno talent at a crucial moment like that is quite unreliable :/ but adding it wouldn't hurt either, so thanks for the tip
@thienphung840015 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen better than relying all on the moon pierce when all u get it just the unseen razor 😂
@TheSKTelecom16 күн бұрын
honestly its better to use dehya over an electro flex so u can use deadly pyro reso other plus is u can use sumeru resonance since dehya and cyno are both from sumeru
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
I do think pyro res is the better option now after a few more attempts, but I'll have to pass on Sumeru resonance
@lilliaplayer943916 күн бұрын
hopefully cyno gets the love he deserves :D
@w7ndI16 күн бұрын
cyno seahorse chevreuse anhilated me, jade spear and talent just deleted my mona lyney and navia. oh boy im looking forward to this patch…
@ofcitszen15 күн бұрын
jade spear is crazy
@aspillust16 күн бұрын
i'm suddenly scared to play co-op LMAO
@jiaquu16 күн бұрын
is kujou sara finally viable. maybe just perchance mayhaps she could replace seahorse here
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
wait youre onto something
@onion-headed16 күн бұрын
I got demolished by a Cyno-Navia deck with the damn melusines and Taroumaru pulling out the dice outta nowhere. Twice. Navia and Cyno decks are a nightmare to match against, especially when you prefer to play slower decks…
@YukiiSnowyy0216 күн бұрын
Everyone trying to make cyno/chevreuse as broken as possible, meanwhile me with my 12 dmg navia skill: :o It's funny tho that you could see they were going to discard the overcharged ball with the polearm, I feel like that may be a small oversight but idk
@jiaquu16 күн бұрын
theres something similar w xinyan apep, u can see beforehand if ur gonna discard the apep thing or not i dont think theyre gonna bother changing it plus its nice to know
@YukiiSnowyy0216 күн бұрын
@@jiaquu yeah i know it happens there but then it's only visible to you, here zen as the opponent could see which card was getting discarded which gave him more info than it should've
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
it really gave a bit too much info and i was able to save my cyno thanks to it
@rii604616 күн бұрын
I was waiting for you to post a video lol i live for your sarcastic "appreciation" gonna try this deck have fun. "Secretly" manifesting a new cryo fatui operative character deck from you👀
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
idk im probably gonna throw in some fatui friends in there and glue it together with the fatui conspiracy card
@gloom979916 күн бұрын
I was trying this out as well, but with Cicin Mage/Dehya instead of Seahorse... I think more application makes the deck feel better. With Cicin, you stay longer on Chev and get the OLs immediately, with Dehya you have pyro reso for Cyno. Plus I did go for talents and Guoba card. Would recommend!
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
it seems like a lot of people are still trying out different variants of this deck to find the perfect 3rd character, but so far any character with summons seems to be the way to go (just like the 2 characters you mentioned, as well as Fischl)
@gloom979916 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen yeah, I mean it's day 1 can't blame em lol The only reason I didn't pick Fischl is because I use her way too much already, so I felt like playing with Cicin! Overall I'm a huge fan of Chev/Cyno though, I really hope he finds a spot in tournaments since he's the tcg mascot
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
at this rate, he probably will
@gloom979916 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen #justiceforCyno
@dianafox217516 күн бұрын
Is it just me or with Chevreuse and new buffs Cyno is just unstoppable? Truly the king of TCG.
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
he just starts dealing way too much damage... it feels like 4.7 yun jin all over again (but thankfully he's not as broken as she was)
@dianafox217516 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen well rip to stall decks that bump into Cyno Chev I guess 😅
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
stall's been dead since 4.7 anyway, cuz it cant even survive against the aggro decks it's supposed to counter
@kasaneteto269215 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen Thats sad i like stall a lot tbh i like annoying aggro decks especcially noelle decks with them but oh well
@ofcitszen16 күн бұрын
Check out my opponent (Ark)'s KZread channel here: www.youtube.com/@Zolark
@Zolark16 күн бұрын
@---eo9jl17 күн бұрын
Awesome playing
@jiaquu20 күн бұрын
HOW DID THE KAVEH LOSE THAT BADLY 😭
@ofcitszen18 күн бұрын
idk either
@hidehaise23 күн бұрын
LMFAO 12:04 I said the same thing 😭 kaveh jumpscare
@ofcitszen22 күн бұрын
can't run from the meta
@nullzeon23 күн бұрын
fun challenge and hilarious play instead of tune
@Tophbbq23 күн бұрын
I've also noticed that AOC opponents are a lot easier than co-op opponents LOL but why is this? I guess people who queue for AOC want the rewards but people who queue for unranked co-op are really dedicated...
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
no, it's just that co-op matchmaking has a hidden MMR (Matchmaking Rating) system, whereas AoC doesn't
@aspillust23 күн бұрын
YO THE ZENLESS ZONE ZERO IS ZENFULL NOW edit: YOU GOT SOLDIER 11 TOO YAY :D also thoughts on lycaon? 👀
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
lycaon is amazing, hes one of ellen's best teammates if you havent seen that everywhere already. Just like anby, hes also a great stunner in like every team
@aspillust23 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen yay :)
@rii604623 күн бұрын
really like the idea of you showing and explaining while building a deck..always look forward to ur videos.
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
glad you like it!
@JustAPal23 күн бұрын
If the opponent uses hydro herald's burst, then you'll be able to use 4 dice attacks as well since the cost will be increased
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
very true, but that aint happening in a hundred games in arena of champions
@lamquangnhathuy23 күн бұрын
If you use liben, you are breaking the rule😅 btw how you manage to deal with oppoment was amazing🎉
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
how is liben breaking the rule? hes not attacking them in any way except emotionally
@lamquangnhathuy22 күн бұрын
@@ofcitszen sorry i though you can only use 5-dices every round, not 5-dices skill😅
@BluecoreG23 күн бұрын
I subscribed for snake arcade and Anby gameplay. 🌚 Will you upload your first shiryu defense final floor full clear run?
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
most probably! i am still mainly a gitcg yt channel, but im hoping to slowly add more and more ZZZ into the mix
@Seeboss23 күн бұрын
Lmao playing the card instead of tuning happens to me a lot, hoyoverse should ask for the confirmation of playing 0 cost things 💔
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
yea... for now we just have to play slower and more carefully :/
@kirank217023 күн бұрын
herald float 8 is everywhere lol
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
float 8 is crazy
@caveats23 күн бұрын
Amazing video, I love the commentary and deck building at the start, def elevated the gameplay!
@ofcitszen23 күн бұрын
glad you liked it! I'll do this more in the future then
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts23 күн бұрын
that is some cope on hydro herald.... but it's technically correct....
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I'm wondering if it'll show your self damage if they have the Ball and another 2 cost card? It seems like a lot of information. You know that they don't have 3-cost cards in hand (Gilded?), and maybe no 2-cost as well
yea, it gives a lot of info. If they have another 2-cost card as well, then it's up to rng whether it picks the Ball or not, but if it does you still get notified just like this
Let's go
From this video and a few others I’ve come up with a Navia Dehya Albedo deck that puts down both Dehya and Albedo’s summons on turn one and then stalls while using albedo burst to threaten enemy carries till Navia has the melusine claymore super stacked to finish the job
sounds pretty good :O
*ITTO* use 13:55
i cant figure out what was the misplay on your end. still trying to understand and get used to the new meta.
dunno either. perhaps not having the new drill polearm made the difference between winning and losing
Will zen make a chevreuse deck?:D
already did in my previosu video :p
where the heck did this new Liyue deck even come from??
some guy used it in the prince cup tournament and it's been going around ever since
ooh yay navia deck! i've been using furina and albedo with her and so far it's been going well, i have to keep an eye on my hp and dice but otherwise it's pretty smooth and generates a decent amount of crystallize :)
negligible damage💀
does navia, albedo, and kuki work? Or does navia, gorou, kuki work? Or possibly mona albedo navia? swap swap
they all work tbh, but none of them can compete with the top meta decks imo :/ anyway i think kuki + fast action switch might be the best choice
i started using electro cicin and albedo for guranteed crystalize thru the summons and now the new fast action albedos summon gives 🫂
prob not optimal but I FINALLY HAVE AN EXCUSE TO USE ALBEDO 🙏
You do know you couldve used the Shrapnels, and for each one used you also draw one card. All you needed was 2 shrapnels drawn from the deck to kill him haha. Doable.
use the shrapnel and hope for another shrapnel? that's wild, but not a bad idea
@@ofcitszen i mean, better than giving up 🙃
have u tried the melusine support yet its super fun (unless u have bad luck) it also works with navia bc of melusine claymore
i havent yet, need to try it out asap
If u added new Lynnette card to break that freeze and those new Melusines cards those can gave you 2 food cards for free but its RNG based tho kinda risky. I saw someone recommending adding Mona instead of Deya for free quick action and free crystallization reaction.. Anyways looking forward for more decks form u man lets enjoy this patch and keep on experimenting .
lots of experimenting to do... lots of rng to enjoy
bro i fought this deck with that card back too but in na
what a coincidence
Maybe dehya + albedo 👍🏻
perhaps, since albedo did get a buff after all
Have you tried mona instead of Deyha? I find a get a ton more crystals because of mona's fast swap
I have actually, and I think Mona pairs better with Navia. Plus, Navia doesn't seem like a stall character at all, so putting her in an aggro one with Mona is probably better. That said, I just wanted to try her out in DIN to see how it fares :p
@@ofcitszen yeah fair enough lol Though I like how now we can have MIN (mona, Itto, Navia)
new Lynnette card would've been good in that case , helps u with that freeze 🥶
wait you're right... that's insane
@@ofcitszen yeah, still was a very good game, can't wait to see the next one.
GG Zen, you did great
What is that cardback?
It was given out today to Cat's Tail TCG players, a commemorative gift
@@agnozythehearthead9843 To everyone or just those who play the TCG?
@@YouW1llNeverKnoweveryone🎉
Had the feeling but yeah Dehya alone isn't enough to get the shrapnel going
yea... it's kinda hard to get crystallize going
for cyno/chevy : drill is better than moonpiercer
i figured out by now, but thanks for telling. the drill is hella good
Would gorou work better instead of Itto in this deck??
This deck works cause of Itto's summon to proc crystallize for Navia, its harder to get crystals with gorou since you can only get the consistently with his burst being up unless you run a lot of quick swap. Kojo creations did a stream with that deck in question though so it's worth checking that out to see if you like how it plays
Maybe try raiden instead of dehya, then you can use navia burst for more crystals
nah, going for raiden burst doesn't work in this meta because meta decks deal too much damage (threatening raiden's life) and raiden takes 1 and a half rounds to burst. That's why I can't use Shenhe SC anymore either :(
@@ofcitszencan the arcane card protect her?
13:29 you could have won there if u had Cyno talent which gives u +2 damage on that hit I suggest bring 2 so u can do +2 dam 2 times in 1 turn if needed, ggs
relying on getting cyno talent at a crucial moment like that is quite unreliable :/ but adding it wouldn't hurt either, so thanks for the tip
@@ofcitszen better than relying all on the moon pierce when all u get it just the unseen razor 😂
honestly its better to use dehya over an electro flex so u can use deadly pyro reso other plus is u can use sumeru resonance since dehya and cyno are both from sumeru
I do think pyro res is the better option now after a few more attempts, but I'll have to pass on Sumeru resonance
hopefully cyno gets the love he deserves :D
cyno seahorse chevreuse anhilated me, jade spear and talent just deleted my mona lyney and navia. oh boy im looking forward to this patch…
jade spear is crazy
i'm suddenly scared to play co-op LMAO
is kujou sara finally viable. maybe just perchance mayhaps she could replace seahorse here
wait youre onto something
I got demolished by a Cyno-Navia deck with the damn melusines and Taroumaru pulling out the dice outta nowhere. Twice. Navia and Cyno decks are a nightmare to match against, especially when you prefer to play slower decks…
Everyone trying to make cyno/chevreuse as broken as possible, meanwhile me with my 12 dmg navia skill: :o It's funny tho that you could see they were going to discard the overcharged ball with the polearm, I feel like that may be a small oversight but idk
theres something similar w xinyan apep, u can see beforehand if ur gonna discard the apep thing or not i dont think theyre gonna bother changing it plus its nice to know
@@jiaquu yeah i know it happens there but then it's only visible to you, here zen as the opponent could see which card was getting discarded which gave him more info than it should've
it really gave a bit too much info and i was able to save my cyno thanks to it
I was waiting for you to post a video lol i live for your sarcastic "appreciation" gonna try this deck have fun. "Secretly" manifesting a new cryo fatui operative character deck from you👀
idk im probably gonna throw in some fatui friends in there and glue it together with the fatui conspiracy card
I was trying this out as well, but with Cicin Mage/Dehya instead of Seahorse... I think more application makes the deck feel better. With Cicin, you stay longer on Chev and get the OLs immediately, with Dehya you have pyro reso for Cyno. Plus I did go for talents and Guoba card. Would recommend!
it seems like a lot of people are still trying out different variants of this deck to find the perfect 3rd character, but so far any character with summons seems to be the way to go (just like the 2 characters you mentioned, as well as Fischl)
@@ofcitszen yeah, I mean it's day 1 can't blame em lol The only reason I didn't pick Fischl is because I use her way too much already, so I felt like playing with Cicin! Overall I'm a huge fan of Chev/Cyno though, I really hope he finds a spot in tournaments since he's the tcg mascot
at this rate, he probably will
@@ofcitszen #justiceforCyno
Is it just me or with Chevreuse and new buffs Cyno is just unstoppable? Truly the king of TCG.
he just starts dealing way too much damage... it feels like 4.7 yun jin all over again (but thankfully he's not as broken as she was)
@@ofcitszen well rip to stall decks that bump into Cyno Chev I guess 😅
stall's been dead since 4.7 anyway, cuz it cant even survive against the aggro decks it's supposed to counter
@@ofcitszen Thats sad i like stall a lot tbh i like annoying aggro decks especcially noelle decks with them but oh well
Check out my opponent (Ark)'s KZread channel here: www.youtube.com/@Zolark
Awesome playing
HOW DID THE KAVEH LOSE THAT BADLY 😭
idk either
LMFAO 12:04 I said the same thing 😭 kaveh jumpscare
can't run from the meta
fun challenge and hilarious play instead of tune
I've also noticed that AOC opponents are a lot easier than co-op opponents LOL but why is this? I guess people who queue for AOC want the rewards but people who queue for unranked co-op are really dedicated...
no, it's just that co-op matchmaking has a hidden MMR (Matchmaking Rating) system, whereas AoC doesn't
YO THE ZENLESS ZONE ZERO IS ZENFULL NOW edit: YOU GOT SOLDIER 11 TOO YAY :D also thoughts on lycaon? 👀
lycaon is amazing, hes one of ellen's best teammates if you havent seen that everywhere already. Just like anby, hes also a great stunner in like every team
@@ofcitszen yay :)
really like the idea of you showing and explaining while building a deck..always look forward to ur videos.
glad you like it!
If the opponent uses hydro herald's burst, then you'll be able to use 4 dice attacks as well since the cost will be increased
very true, but that aint happening in a hundred games in arena of champions
If you use liben, you are breaking the rule😅 btw how you manage to deal with oppoment was amazing🎉
how is liben breaking the rule? hes not attacking them in any way except emotionally
@@ofcitszen sorry i though you can only use 5-dices every round, not 5-dices skill😅
I subscribed for snake arcade and Anby gameplay. 🌚 Will you upload your first shiryu defense final floor full clear run?
most probably! i am still mainly a gitcg yt channel, but im hoping to slowly add more and more ZZZ into the mix
Lmao playing the card instead of tuning happens to me a lot, hoyoverse should ask for the confirmation of playing 0 cost things 💔
yea... for now we just have to play slower and more carefully :/
herald float 8 is everywhere lol
float 8 is crazy
Amazing video, I love the commentary and deck building at the start, def elevated the gameplay!
glad you liked it! I'll do this more in the future then
that is some cope on hydro herald.... but it's technically correct....
it works, can't argue with the results B)