Your rant on the Ingenieur is well-articulated. Something I’d add is that I wish they’d have gone with a slimmer case shape. The dimensions are relatively thin but something about the wrist presence is too bulky to me. Unrelated, I like the look of the black 41 Ceratanium but 14.5 thickness sounds like a lot. Do you often notice it protruding high above the wrist?
@defenstrator46607 сағат бұрын
I think the gold is top tier perpetual calendar. Anything else will be bogged but not better. I like how you talk about what you like and dislike, and what you use the different watches for.
@defenstrator46607 сағат бұрын
I like that blue and grey NATO on the Mk20. Looks sharp. I appreciate your feelings for the Ingenuir. I just feel the watch is overpriced. It should cost Grand Seiko money, but they seem to think people are willing to overpay just because they can’t get a Royal Oak.
@griffon892 күн бұрын
I got the topgun woodland version, and been having some issues with the movement- the chrono hand wobbles when accentuated, and also “ticking” instead of sweeping. It’s still at the iwc service centre at the moment but incredibly disappointing. Just wondering if u ever noticed those issues?
@RandyswatchesКүн бұрын
I’m not sure what you are describing, however I’ve not had any issues. Fortunately the IWC extended warranty is robust and I hope you have a good experience once it’s returned to you. I know you’ll be taken care of. I think it’s impossible to produce large quantities of anything without an element of randomness that is beyond control. The question is, how do companies deal with defects? I’ve heard of even high end bespoke brands with warranty issues.
@88EP138 күн бұрын
Same design as the newer Ingenieur
@Randyswatches7 күн бұрын
I’ll have to look again.
@mjhastings45348 күн бұрын
Mark xx for me thank you for this video. I'm going out to get mine now
@Randyswatches8 күн бұрын
Congratulations! Let me know how much you love it after you’ve gotten to know it. I know it’ll be a part of your life forever. Don’t sleep on the accessory straps. Check with the 1916 company for factory straps at a steep discount, or negotiate a leather strap from your AD with the purchase.
@mjhastings45348 күн бұрын
@@Randyswatches thank you so much that's a great help. I'll be getting as many straps as I can for it even an orange rubber for fun
@denniskai23318 күн бұрын
I have a green XX and a white XVIII ... love them both. They're my most worn, most versatile, most legible watches. If IWC would just make slightly smaller watches with their other non-pilot lines, I would think they could crush the market.
@Randyswatches8 күн бұрын
Great pieces! Maybe they could score more market share that way… Or maybe game theory says that if everyone competes for the same market, no one thrives. It’s ok to have something that isn’t for everyone. It may even confer longevity at the expense of growth, since fashion trends come and go.
@Bungala9 күн бұрын
Really like the channel. All very relatable! I think the watch is pushing it on 54 mm lug to lug. I got a 7 inch wrist, but even though it theoretically would not have overhang the watches tend to slide some and I can't stand overhang. Size wise the 41 Ceratanium-one is much I better I would say, almost pulled the trigger on one recently myself even though I was in the hunt for the teal Petronas 41 chrono. Due to budget constraints I had to stick with the latter.
@Randyswatches9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback! Congratulations on your new piece. I’d love to try one on the black strap one day. I hear you on size. 41/42 is a perfectly sized “big watch” on me. But when you strap on the Lake Tahoe, there’s something about the punch it packs. I’m starting to think we need to spend more time talking about the emotional connection rather than the clinical specifications of what is essentially a piece of jewelry.
@charlymagne11 күн бұрын
I agree! Keep them coming. I’ve seen them all, and I am a big IWC fan too
@Randyswatches11 күн бұрын
Dear god, am I going to have to get a big pilot? I need time. Maybe next year. I’m glad you enjoy them.
@michaelm870911 күн бұрын
Seriously considering the Mark XX and your feedback is helpful as I think about possibly purchasing that.
@Randyswatches11 күн бұрын
If you order new, make sure to get a free leather strap. The online boutique will add one. Or get an AD to throw one in, or give a small discount. If somehow you can’t negotiate it, the 1916 company can hook you up at cost.
@michaelm870911 күн бұрын
As an IWC fan and someone who has owned several different IWC models I appreciate your content going deep into this brand from a collecting point of view. Very few videos like yours on you tube from that perspective. Thx for the video and keep them coming please.
@Randyswatches11 күн бұрын
I’m thinking of where to go next. Big pilot annual calendar (neo-vintage)? Big pilot/perpetual? I think it’ll be a classic big IWC statement piece. But I suspect I’ll need to be responsible for the rest of 2024.
@chasekania645619 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. I just got my first IWC - the Mark XX with a silver dial. I absolutely love it. So clean and elegant.
@Randyswatches15 күн бұрын
Congratulations! It’s incredibly versatile. Black strap or bracelet?
@bdegrds19 күн бұрын
The overseas is 2.5 times the price, so it's an odd comparison. AP, nautilus is 4-5 times the price. The complaint of no micro adjustment on the ingeniur does not make sense if the watch fits you, so you have to try it on. To say the ingeniur doesn't offer anything over mark 20 is not true. I sat down whith both at a boutique with a jewelers loop. The 2 are very different levels of finishing, and that's one of the most expensive ave time consuming processes of watch manufacturing. Ingeniur has hand painted dial with hand finished bracelet done to a holy trinity level. So to say generic could not be further from the truth.
@Randyswatches15 күн бұрын
That’s a fair response. Unfortunately my wrist fluctuates too much for a non-adjustable bracelet to “fit”. The quality is fantastic. But I feel it could have been so much more. Clearly you can see from my videos, I’m a big fan of IWC products. Thanks for the response.
@3_Gold_Coins25 күн бұрын
My new pilot has the wave.
@Randyswatches24 күн бұрын
It’s weird right? Don’t focus on it. Congrats and enjoy!
@dakotaxu479226 күн бұрын
The other Spitfire bronze which belongs to the Big Pilot family has a twin barrel system which makes it highly accurate even with the 8 day power reserve. Annoyingly tho, the big date is at the 12 o’clock position so you cannot see the date change at midnight when the hands block your view. The geniuses at the IWC design team felt that this was a good idea, and they also felt the need to put the 8 day power reserve display on the back of the watch, making it easier for you to crash the plane if you lost track of time and decided to take your hands off the steering wheel so that you could take off the watch to see how much power reserve was remaining on the watch.
@Randyswatches24 күн бұрын
That’s hilarious. Still beautiful.
@aquastyle26 күн бұрын
I'm seriously considering the Top Gun 41. I don't like it too big. I came from a Rolex Sea Dweller, 43mm, it was thick and top heavy so I sold it. I want something light and daily friendly but price point is on the higher end. Is it mainly because of the material? I'm new to IWC. Also loving the clear case back!
@Randyswatches24 күн бұрын
It’s a great piece, and more are becoming available. It also wears very light for its size. The cost is due to the ceratanium, which has a high failure rate in production. It’s a very difficult metal to mass produce. There are less expensive full titanium or ceramic versions that I think look great, and don’t discount stainless steel. There’s a specific C.03 with black on stainless steel that is a 250 piece limited edition that is stunning.
@aquastyle24 күн бұрын
@@Randyswatches Thank you! I read that Ceratanium can get marks easily and is not easy to clean. Do you find that true?
@Randyswatches21 күн бұрын
No. Any marks on it are just other material rubbing off onto the case. The case is not coated, the metal is hardened to an extreme, like ceramic. Mine is still flawless.
@darylwardsnyder440628 күн бұрын
Which Reed’s Jewelers location did you work with? I worked with them in Charleston, SC and had a great experience.
@Randyswatches28 күн бұрын
Columbia. They don’t carry IWC in that store, but if you are interested in a piece, they will drop ship it to the store and let you wear it around to see if you like before you purchase. And the manager is truly passionate about watches (mostly Panarai and Omega though). I’ve been wearing the Mark XX a lot lately, and choosing which strap to wear it with is almost as hard as choosing a timepiece. It looks phenomenal on any strap.
@darylwardsnyder440627 күн бұрын
@@Randyswatches The Mark XX is amazing. I’m fortunate to have a Boutique just down the road in Nashville and have gotten to know the store manager and his team very well. Do you have a RedBar chapter where you are? I head up the RedBar chapter in Louisville.
@Randyswatches11 күн бұрын
Never heard of RedBar. Just googled it. Unfortunately Atlanta and Charleston are the closest places near me that could sustain such a group. There’s plenty of money where I live (a lot of red necks have quite a bit of wealth that they don’t display) but they don’t typically delve into collecting.
@darylwardsnyder440629 күн бұрын
Love your passion for IWC. I’m equally enamored with the brand. I bought the white dial Mark XX last fall. Still love it. But I LOVE the blue dial too. So tempted to buy the blue dial on a blue leather strap, knowing I can switch the bracelet to either watch. Am I nuts to buy the blue in the same model? Have also thought about getting the blue dial 43mm Big Pilot. I owned it in the past and sold it. Big mistake. I’ve done that with watches too many times. That blue sailcloth strap looks amazing on the blue dial.
@Randyswatches28 күн бұрын
It’s a journey. I’m infatuated with them all. I think your journey is your own, and there’s no shame in rectifying a mistake, but maybe consider something outside of your style comfort zone that would be an occasional or weekend piece rather than an everyday. And maybe let it come to you rather than pursuing a look. As for the straps, call the 1916 company and let them know you need IWC straps. The concierge will hook you up with genuine straps at a discount, or consider thestraptailor.com and search IWC.
@darylwardsnyder440628 күн бұрын
@@Randyswatches All good thoughts!! I appreciate the ideas of letting them come to me instead of always being on the hunt. Thanks too for the insights on straps!
@SpookyConceptsАй бұрын
I tried the Engineur and liked it but it costs about 2 times what it should. That watch is (to me) worth $5K tops
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Thanks for the input. I wouldn’t go that far. I’d simply say that it not the timepiece I’d engineer in 2024 given the competition. I’d have flexed my watchmaking prowess.
@bdegrds19 күн бұрын
You obviously had no idea what you were looking at, luxury watches are not your thing
@SpookyConcepts19 күн бұрын
@@bdegrds lmfao alright whatever big luxury watch man
@Randyswatches10 күн бұрын
I suppose not
@mendipfox1650Ай бұрын
Love a nato strap. I’ve just popped one on my Omega Seamaster 300m Chronograph. Looks great. I have a nice green one on my Longines steel Bigeye too. Defo feeds into the pilot vibe. That’s for sure.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Those are great pieces. It’s great to be able to simply remove the strap/bracelet from the mark xx and slap a NATO on it. It’s the best argument against an integrated bracelet watch.
@mendipfox1650Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches I very nearly bought a mark XX. Ended up going with an Omega Railmaster with 40% off MSRP instead. Wonderful watch. Amazing for <$3k. It’s my simple three hander of the collection.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Great deal. I think the railmaster has a lot of class.
@aeolus1982Ай бұрын
Will you get the Ingenieur ? I love the ceratanium pilot. Stealthy AF 😍
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I will get the Inginieur if they develop exchangeable straps and a micro-adjust. The ceratanium is just an incredible all-around watch. Thanks for the comment!
@Kbo513Ай бұрын
There are Chopard Alpine Eagle, GP Laureato, Zenith Defy as competitors when they came up to the price. IWC provides some value in that it was designed by Genta himself while the other 3 are Genta inspired/integrated bracelet for their modern releases. Sure there are arguments that GP and Zenith released their original versions earlier than their counterparts historically, but the new releases borrows heavily on the Genta design elements. So if you compare within that space, I think IWC has some advantages. The other point of contention is the movement - it is borrowed, but a lot of other brands do that as well - Rolex recycles movements - Exp II and GMT, Tudor from Breitling B01, VC for the FiftySix. The borrowed movement provides 100m water resistance, 120 hr power reserve. Again if you compare that to the GP, Chopard, and Zenith - not all of them provide that. I’m not attacking you just providing counter arguments.
@Kbo513Ай бұрын
I did see an interview recently with the IWC CEO that they have plans on expanding the Ingenieur line later this year
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate the point of view. Maybe I’m salty because I wanted to explore that line, but I just can’t do a fixed-length bracelet, and I love strap options. I just think that, with IWCs incredible engineering history, they could have flexed and made a great watch… a real competitor to the overseas and Alpine Eagle. Keep following, maybe one day I’ll go vintage Ingenieur or buy a new model that they really put some effort into. Especially if it’s in titanium.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
@kbo513 Link?? I hope not, for my bank account’s sake. Seriously though, if they can do it without de-valuing the owners of the current model, I’m all for it. Thanks for the comment.
@Kbo513Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches Yes I like easy exchange strap options too. Zenith is definitely one brand that offers extra straps AND easy exchange. I got to meet and talk to the Zenith CEO in W&Ws - I’m set to get their blue Extreme diver. Got into them when they released the Zenith pilot. The IWC Ingeniuer has half links included for the standard bracelet. I was originally set to purchase the VC Overseas but Richmont group got greedy - made the blue Boutique exclusive and eventually dropped a lot of ADs in my area. I don’t want to play the game all over again for one piece when most of my purchase history was with my AD.
@JohnnyLee-ki3dlАй бұрын
Swiss watches are like that 😅. They won’t not give the best version of the watch on their first launch. It is a marketing strategy so that you spend the money to buy this version first. When they release an improved version you will upgrade the your current one. Rolex and Tudor are good examples
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I’d like to think it isn’t pre-planned obsolescence. More likely, it is a combination of artwork and machinery, as well as fashion. Since fashion changes and machines can be improved, I think it’s more likely that consumer feedback over time drives incremental improvements.
@LarsVader23Ай бұрын
Great video, thanks a bunch. The white dial version of the Mark XX is non reflective? Did I get this right? So we have a sunburst metallic reflection on the black, blue and green dials but the white is completely flat? I’m still undecided if I should go with either the black or the white dial version.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Good question. The white dial is not a flat white, or matte. It has some luster. There is a flat white dial on the top gun aces, but that has a completely lumed dial. It goes well with the steel.
@LarsVader23Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches thanks. I probably just misinterpreted/misheard it then.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Lars, maybe I’m mis-remembering. Worst case, call the online boutique, they will send you a video or if you order the watch and don’t like it, they will accept a return.
@LarsVader23Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches Its weird that only so few videos of IWC watches exist especially for the Mark XX in white. All the more reason your videos are a real blessing. Would be nice if you could show the reflections of your IWCs crystals compared to your other watches. The glass of your ceratanium chrono in particular looks like it doesn’t reflect at all.
@peterdinklage7515Ай бұрын
Excellent points on the Ingenieur. It’s a cool watch but they are way too proud of it at that price point. I think they have to know by know that they completely overshot, but they know they can’t just start selling it for ~$7k.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Hopefully they call it a “limited run” and give it time to cool off before doing a redesign and tanking the value. But I somehow doubt they are going to call me in as a consultant
@ansont1824Ай бұрын
I heard from my SA that although she can't share figures with me, that the line did so well last year, totally exceeded expectations, that she doesn't expect them to do much further with the line up in the coming year. Sit on their laurels I suppose.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Good for them. I don’t wish them any failure, obviously. I just hope that the secondary market stays strong so as not to devalue the brand.
@ansont1824Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches me too! I think too, that the brand has done better on the secondary market as of late, not as many pieces simply flooding the market. Thank you for all the work you've put into your videos, I've definitely enjoyed following your IWC journey.
@bdegrds19 күн бұрын
Lol no it's not worth only 7k
@raymondng9107Ай бұрын
Amazing collection. Thank you for the video.
@BoogieWithUАй бұрын
Nice collection! Would love updates on the durability of the ceratanium. Sounds great on paper, but I have doubts on actual performance. I’m looking for a blacked out watch, but it seems like all the coatings eventually rub off, and pure ceramic is fragile and can shatter. Thx!
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Theoretically, it’s as light and shatter resistant as titanium, but as scratch resistant as ceramic. Mine looks the same as the day it was purchased and I wear it almost daily, changing straps frequently. If it gets damaged, I’ll post an update video. But I’m not going to set out to destroy it. Maybe I’ll test the back of the ceratanium clasp if I get bored.
@coffeeboyclips1973Ай бұрын
Love the chronograph, looks amazing Iwc are very addictive and expensive
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Yes and yes. But I think my itch is sufficiently scratched.
@coffeeboyclips1973Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches absolutely, 4 iwcs is more than enough, if I had the money I would like 3, only have a mark 18 but is by far my favourite watch I've owned
@bseroy1109Ай бұрын
Gotta be honest, I tried the Ingenieur on this week and absolutely loved it lol. You have some valid points, though.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I’m not saying it isn’t a good watch. I’m saying if I have a choice between paying less for a Christopher Ward or more for an overseas, I would do either. But why do that when the Mark XX exists?
@frankv7068Ай бұрын
I’ve been obsessing with the green dial IWC model IW329306 just simple no date or complications as my last watch in my collection 👌🏽, but will probably settle for the JLC green reverso.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
That’s not settling, that’s a great piece. The black/white on the brown leather is something I thought hard about. Happy hunting!
@1000lightyrsАй бұрын
It seems like you're maybe a little bit annoyed about the modern Ingenieur? Haha, no I get it man. It's probably somewhat of a botched opportunity for IWC. The Ingenieur's always been my favourite line in IWC's collection. I've owned a 3227 and a 3239 previously. And it was always the Genta design that got me into it. Oddly enough, the one that ended up being my favourite, and I ended up owning long term is the odd one of modern Ingy's, the IW357002. I love the clinical dial, the case, and the way it hearkens back to the original 666. Even though it's not a Genta design, it still looks very much like you would think an Ingenieur should look like. It wears so beautifully on wrist, and even has the micro-adjust clasp like your Mark XX
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I’ll look it up, thank you. The old titanium with the black dial and red accents and black strap sell for 6k and has been in my chrono24 list for a while. Maybe one year I’ll go neon-vintage and get one.
@charlymagneАй бұрын
Congratulations! That Portugieser is awesome and an incredible movement with that perpetual calendar.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Thank you. I have yet to wear it in public because even though it looks amazing, I feel a little self conscious wearing it.
@charlymagneАй бұрын
You got it?!?! That’s awesome! Congratulations. That is an incredible Portofino.
@1000lightyrsАй бұрын
Ha that's funny, we might both be tripping, but you're right about the SCHAFFHAUSEN on the dials. I just blew up a couple pics of my Mark XVI and Ingenieur 3570 and it appears as though the bottoms of the F's are slightly higher than the other letters. I think it's just an optical illusion, but who knows, these luxury watch makers can be super quirky in their little details of slight.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I’ll show the perpetual calendar soon and you’ll see it is uneven as well.
@jedichurnАй бұрын
Was it hard to get IWC rubber strap off?
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
It’s no more difficult than any other strap, but the rubber can tear if you aren’t careful. I’ve put it back on once or twice just to confirm that I hate it.
@jedichurnАй бұрын
@@Randyswatches do you know if it can be order with a different strap? not an additional one. i just dont like the look of the original one. maybe it can be ordered with a rubber one?
@randys766Ай бұрын
Call the online concierge and ask for Lauren. I’m sure she can do it for you.
@jedichurnАй бұрын
@@randys766 thank you!
@Desdes9999Ай бұрын
Nice collection. Looking forward to some wrist shots of the Portuguese. Feel like you have all the bases covered with that IWC collection. Intrigued to see what VC you had in mind…… happy collecting!
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Overseas or overseas dual time black dial. But I just don’t know if I could justify another watch in the collection without purging some, and I can’t think of an IWC that I’d be willing to part with.
@peterdinklage7515Ай бұрын
Nice video. What kind of strap do you have on the Top Gun chrono?
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Ritchie canvas. They are almost exactly the same as Barton but a little more substantial.
@3_Gold_Coins25 күн бұрын
I don’t think this strap can work with my IWC as it has the easy x strap
@Randyswatches8 күн бұрын
It will
@tyrelfnx4528Ай бұрын
I love the mark 20, it's my dream but I don't think ill ever have it lol
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
The Grand Canyon was once just a trickling stream. The more discipline and patience you have, the sweeter it will be to look at it on your wrist. Open an account, save $1000 a year, and in 5 years buy a used piece that will remind you every day of your own value and determination.
@snowyevening7012Ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches You really have a way with words; you're fluent and persuasive.
@tyrelfnx4528Ай бұрын
Sir you're a real inspiration! Thanks for the words of encouragement, I'll definitely be putting them into practice.
@miadevich1738Ай бұрын
How many IWCs do you need? :)
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
I’m done. The box fits 4. I feel like it’s a sign.
@aeolus1982Ай бұрын
Add another 4 piece box 😂
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
God… maybe. I could easily pick another 4. Portofino hand wound, big pilot, enginieur titanium (vintage), and Novecento
@ramdhawad80842 ай бұрын
Your video made me pulled the trigger:) got the exact same one. Didn’t like the new strap system and found a great deal on this, so it was an easy decision. Thank you.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Congratulations. I know you will love wearing it. There’s just something special about it.
@robertanthonykozakiewicz76862 ай бұрын
Thanks for making the video... I just picked up my second spitfire, but was confused by the new movement thanks for clearing that up
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Did you get the new movement with the extended power reserve? Either way it’s still a killer watch and I don’t even think about it anymore.
@1000lightyrs2 ай бұрын
I love and feel your love of IWC man! I've been collecting luxury watches for almost 15 years now, and IWC watches remain very close to my heart. Just something about the brand and their pieces.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
They just speak to me. I’m afraid that the next brand that will speak to me later in life is going to be Vacheron.
@1000lightyrs2 ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches Snap! I'm retiring this year at 54 and VC is my top choice as my retirement watch. Probably either a Traditionelle, or a Fiftysix
@1000lightyrs2 ай бұрын
Maybe I should work 2 years longer lol
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
If I could only have one watch forever, I guess it would have to be an overseas black dial, probably dual time. But I’m wearing my spitfire today and I would miss it too much
@johnrobinson21372 ай бұрын
Ay you do you thats great that new watch is superb well done 👏
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Ty
@spectre65182 ай бұрын
How much does it weigh?
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
I didn’t put it on a scale, but I can. The watch feels like it’s a little heavier than titanium. It is not top heavy.
@spectre65182 ай бұрын
@@Randyswatches if you have the time to weigh it, please let me know! Thanks
@doukhobar2 ай бұрын
Are the numbers and/ or indices having lume, or only at the 3/6/9? That's killing me on the Mark series, whereas the Big Pilot 43 has a fully lumed dial.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Yes. However it does not bother me. It’s just to beautiful for me to care. Perhaps a Sinn or Zenith would be more your style.
@doukhobar2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have a nice Sinn with excellent lume. Too bad IWC doesn't offer full lume on their 40mm pilots. How do you tell time quickly at night with only the compass points? Even then, the 3 o'clock point wouldn't seem to have any lume at all due to the date? A weird design feature/flaw IMO.
@JasonChikowski2 ай бұрын
I have the IW326806 I bought 4 months ago, and I HATE the "EasX-CHANGE system"! I would Much rather have the regular strap. it feels cheap, as it rattles around when you shake it, because the clasp that grabs the spring bar is loose. The first inch on each spring bar end of the strap is Stiff! and doesn't move, making for a band that flares out and doesn't wrap around the wrist tight. This is because of the metal plate in the band on both sides to accommodate the EasX-CHANGE. You are NOT missing out on this proprietary crap band system that's designed to sell expensive watch bands and adds nothing of value that a regular watch band with built in quick release spring bars like Oris and Christopher Ward and other manufactures use. 120 hr movement is nice but this is a daily wear for me so doesn't;t matter and is about 7 seconds or more fast every day and I expected for the price it would be more accurate. Don't get me wrong, this is my FAVORITE watch I've ever owned but the watch band is unusable so I don't use it. and you have NOT missed out. Thanks for your review!
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
You bring up a good point, it is a little “rattly”. I think on the spitfire bronze, the brown leather fits so well that it just belongs and should stay. But I’ll say that the Mark XX looks so good on both leather and bracelet, that the ease exchange system is an added bonus. Thanks for your comment!
@charlymagne2 ай бұрын
Nice Job on all the videos, really enjoyed the 4 vid series. Once you get the Portofino, please share it with the watch geeks.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I’m considering the Portuguese over the Portofino. Hope I get it this year to share. Thanks for the nice words
@stebesplace2 ай бұрын
I would throw some caution to the IWC perpetual calendars. You can't adjust the calendar backwards if you accidentally move it forward. Or just wait for it to catch up. You would need to send it back to IWC and they charge near $1K to reset. I think you're getting to a point where if you want IWC, it may be worth looking into an Aquatimer to add a diver element unless you really want an office watch, dressed up. I would wait for W&W to happen in a couple of weeks to see what they release next.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
That’s a great thought. We will just see how it plays out when I’m ready to make another purchase. Maybe a hand wound 8 days will strike next. Appreciate the comment.
@m4ttyp4ntsАй бұрын
save your $1,000. if you accidentally advance it forward, just let it wind down. time will catch up.
@RandyswatchesАй бұрын
Or pull the crown out for a day…
@charlymagne2 ай бұрын
Loved the video. I have a Pilot 36 , black dial, bracelet. It looks very similar to the Mark 20. I REALLY want a green dial, Mark 20…. Am I crazy?
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
Yes. But that’s ok. Do it 👍
@charlymagne2 ай бұрын
Nice video! I’m watching all three of the series.
@Randyswatches2 ай бұрын
That sounds painful. Hopefully this year I get my perpetual calendar and make a better video. Thanks for watching!
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Your rant on the Ingenieur is well-articulated. Something I’d add is that I wish they’d have gone with a slimmer case shape. The dimensions are relatively thin but something about the wrist presence is too bulky to me. Unrelated, I like the look of the black 41 Ceratanium but 14.5 thickness sounds like a lot. Do you often notice it protruding high above the wrist?
I think the gold is top tier perpetual calendar. Anything else will be bogged but not better. I like how you talk about what you like and dislike, and what you use the different watches for.
I like that blue and grey NATO on the Mk20. Looks sharp. I appreciate your feelings for the Ingenuir. I just feel the watch is overpriced. It should cost Grand Seiko money, but they seem to think people are willing to overpay just because they can’t get a Royal Oak.
I got the topgun woodland version, and been having some issues with the movement- the chrono hand wobbles when accentuated, and also “ticking” instead of sweeping. It’s still at the iwc service centre at the moment but incredibly disappointing. Just wondering if u ever noticed those issues?
I’m not sure what you are describing, however I’ve not had any issues. Fortunately the IWC extended warranty is robust and I hope you have a good experience once it’s returned to you. I know you’ll be taken care of. I think it’s impossible to produce large quantities of anything without an element of randomness that is beyond control. The question is, how do companies deal with defects? I’ve heard of even high end bespoke brands with warranty issues.
Same design as the newer Ingenieur
I’ll have to look again.
Mark xx for me thank you for this video. I'm going out to get mine now
Congratulations! Let me know how much you love it after you’ve gotten to know it. I know it’ll be a part of your life forever. Don’t sleep on the accessory straps. Check with the 1916 company for factory straps at a steep discount, or negotiate a leather strap from your AD with the purchase.
@@Randyswatches thank you so much that's a great help. I'll be getting as many straps as I can for it even an orange rubber for fun
I have a green XX and a white XVIII ... love them both. They're my most worn, most versatile, most legible watches. If IWC would just make slightly smaller watches with their other non-pilot lines, I would think they could crush the market.
Great pieces! Maybe they could score more market share that way… Or maybe game theory says that if everyone competes for the same market, no one thrives. It’s ok to have something that isn’t for everyone. It may even confer longevity at the expense of growth, since fashion trends come and go.
Really like the channel. All very relatable! I think the watch is pushing it on 54 mm lug to lug. I got a 7 inch wrist, but even though it theoretically would not have overhang the watches tend to slide some and I can't stand overhang. Size wise the 41 Ceratanium-one is much I better I would say, almost pulled the trigger on one recently myself even though I was in the hunt for the teal Petronas 41 chrono. Due to budget constraints I had to stick with the latter.
Thanks for the positive feedback! Congratulations on your new piece. I’d love to try one on the black strap one day. I hear you on size. 41/42 is a perfectly sized “big watch” on me. But when you strap on the Lake Tahoe, there’s something about the punch it packs. I’m starting to think we need to spend more time talking about the emotional connection rather than the clinical specifications of what is essentially a piece of jewelry.
I agree! Keep them coming. I’ve seen them all, and I am a big IWC fan too
Dear god, am I going to have to get a big pilot? I need time. Maybe next year. I’m glad you enjoy them.
Seriously considering the Mark XX and your feedback is helpful as I think about possibly purchasing that.
If you order new, make sure to get a free leather strap. The online boutique will add one. Or get an AD to throw one in, or give a small discount. If somehow you can’t negotiate it, the 1916 company can hook you up at cost.
As an IWC fan and someone who has owned several different IWC models I appreciate your content going deep into this brand from a collecting point of view. Very few videos like yours on you tube from that perspective. Thx for the video and keep them coming please.
I’m thinking of where to go next. Big pilot annual calendar (neo-vintage)? Big pilot/perpetual? I think it’ll be a classic big IWC statement piece. But I suspect I’ll need to be responsible for the rest of 2024.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I just got my first IWC - the Mark XX with a silver dial. I absolutely love it. So clean and elegant.
Congratulations! It’s incredibly versatile. Black strap or bracelet?
The overseas is 2.5 times the price, so it's an odd comparison. AP, nautilus is 4-5 times the price. The complaint of no micro adjustment on the ingeniur does not make sense if the watch fits you, so you have to try it on. To say the ingeniur doesn't offer anything over mark 20 is not true. I sat down whith both at a boutique with a jewelers loop. The 2 are very different levels of finishing, and that's one of the most expensive ave time consuming processes of watch manufacturing. Ingeniur has hand painted dial with hand finished bracelet done to a holy trinity level. So to say generic could not be further from the truth.
That’s a fair response. Unfortunately my wrist fluctuates too much for a non-adjustable bracelet to “fit”. The quality is fantastic. But I feel it could have been so much more. Clearly you can see from my videos, I’m a big fan of IWC products. Thanks for the response.
My new pilot has the wave.
It’s weird right? Don’t focus on it. Congrats and enjoy!
The other Spitfire bronze which belongs to the Big Pilot family has a twin barrel system which makes it highly accurate even with the 8 day power reserve. Annoyingly tho, the big date is at the 12 o’clock position so you cannot see the date change at midnight when the hands block your view. The geniuses at the IWC design team felt that this was a good idea, and they also felt the need to put the 8 day power reserve display on the back of the watch, making it easier for you to crash the plane if you lost track of time and decided to take your hands off the steering wheel so that you could take off the watch to see how much power reserve was remaining on the watch.
That’s hilarious. Still beautiful.
I'm seriously considering the Top Gun 41. I don't like it too big. I came from a Rolex Sea Dweller, 43mm, it was thick and top heavy so I sold it. I want something light and daily friendly but price point is on the higher end. Is it mainly because of the material? I'm new to IWC. Also loving the clear case back!
It’s a great piece, and more are becoming available. It also wears very light for its size. The cost is due to the ceratanium, which has a high failure rate in production. It’s a very difficult metal to mass produce. There are less expensive full titanium or ceramic versions that I think look great, and don’t discount stainless steel. There’s a specific C.03 with black on stainless steel that is a 250 piece limited edition that is stunning.
@@Randyswatches Thank you! I read that Ceratanium can get marks easily and is not easy to clean. Do you find that true?
No. Any marks on it are just other material rubbing off onto the case. The case is not coated, the metal is hardened to an extreme, like ceramic. Mine is still flawless.
Which Reed’s Jewelers location did you work with? I worked with them in Charleston, SC and had a great experience.
Columbia. They don’t carry IWC in that store, but if you are interested in a piece, they will drop ship it to the store and let you wear it around to see if you like before you purchase. And the manager is truly passionate about watches (mostly Panarai and Omega though). I’ve been wearing the Mark XX a lot lately, and choosing which strap to wear it with is almost as hard as choosing a timepiece. It looks phenomenal on any strap.
@@Randyswatches The Mark XX is amazing. I’m fortunate to have a Boutique just down the road in Nashville and have gotten to know the store manager and his team very well. Do you have a RedBar chapter where you are? I head up the RedBar chapter in Louisville.
Never heard of RedBar. Just googled it. Unfortunately Atlanta and Charleston are the closest places near me that could sustain such a group. There’s plenty of money where I live (a lot of red necks have quite a bit of wealth that they don’t display) but they don’t typically delve into collecting.
Love your passion for IWC. I’m equally enamored with the brand. I bought the white dial Mark XX last fall. Still love it. But I LOVE the blue dial too. So tempted to buy the blue dial on a blue leather strap, knowing I can switch the bracelet to either watch. Am I nuts to buy the blue in the same model? Have also thought about getting the blue dial 43mm Big Pilot. I owned it in the past and sold it. Big mistake. I’ve done that with watches too many times. That blue sailcloth strap looks amazing on the blue dial.
It’s a journey. I’m infatuated with them all. I think your journey is your own, and there’s no shame in rectifying a mistake, but maybe consider something outside of your style comfort zone that would be an occasional or weekend piece rather than an everyday. And maybe let it come to you rather than pursuing a look. As for the straps, call the 1916 company and let them know you need IWC straps. The concierge will hook you up with genuine straps at a discount, or consider thestraptailor.com and search IWC.
@@Randyswatches All good thoughts!! I appreciate the ideas of letting them come to me instead of always being on the hunt. Thanks too for the insights on straps!
I tried the Engineur and liked it but it costs about 2 times what it should. That watch is (to me) worth $5K tops
Thanks for the input. I wouldn’t go that far. I’d simply say that it not the timepiece I’d engineer in 2024 given the competition. I’d have flexed my watchmaking prowess.
You obviously had no idea what you were looking at, luxury watches are not your thing
@@bdegrds lmfao alright whatever big luxury watch man
I suppose not
Love a nato strap. I’ve just popped one on my Omega Seamaster 300m Chronograph. Looks great. I have a nice green one on my Longines steel Bigeye too. Defo feeds into the pilot vibe. That’s for sure.
Thanks for sharing. Those are great pieces. It’s great to be able to simply remove the strap/bracelet from the mark xx and slap a NATO on it. It’s the best argument against an integrated bracelet watch.
@@Randyswatches I very nearly bought a mark XX. Ended up going with an Omega Railmaster with 40% off MSRP instead. Wonderful watch. Amazing for <$3k. It’s my simple three hander of the collection.
Great deal. I think the railmaster has a lot of class.
Will you get the Ingenieur ? I love the ceratanium pilot. Stealthy AF 😍
I will get the Inginieur if they develop exchangeable straps and a micro-adjust. The ceratanium is just an incredible all-around watch. Thanks for the comment!
There are Chopard Alpine Eagle, GP Laureato, Zenith Defy as competitors when they came up to the price. IWC provides some value in that it was designed by Genta himself while the other 3 are Genta inspired/integrated bracelet for their modern releases. Sure there are arguments that GP and Zenith released their original versions earlier than their counterparts historically, but the new releases borrows heavily on the Genta design elements. So if you compare within that space, I think IWC has some advantages. The other point of contention is the movement - it is borrowed, but a lot of other brands do that as well - Rolex recycles movements - Exp II and GMT, Tudor from Breitling B01, VC for the FiftySix. The borrowed movement provides 100m water resistance, 120 hr power reserve. Again if you compare that to the GP, Chopard, and Zenith - not all of them provide that. I’m not attacking you just providing counter arguments.
I did see an interview recently with the IWC CEO that they have plans on expanding the Ingenieur line later this year
Thanks, I appreciate the point of view. Maybe I’m salty because I wanted to explore that line, but I just can’t do a fixed-length bracelet, and I love strap options. I just think that, with IWCs incredible engineering history, they could have flexed and made a great watch… a real competitor to the overseas and Alpine Eagle. Keep following, maybe one day I’ll go vintage Ingenieur or buy a new model that they really put some effort into. Especially if it’s in titanium.
@kbo513 Link?? I hope not, for my bank account’s sake. Seriously though, if they can do it without de-valuing the owners of the current model, I’m all for it. Thanks for the comment.
@@Randyswatches Yes I like easy exchange strap options too. Zenith is definitely one brand that offers extra straps AND easy exchange. I got to meet and talk to the Zenith CEO in W&Ws - I’m set to get their blue Extreme diver. Got into them when they released the Zenith pilot. The IWC Ingeniuer has half links included for the standard bracelet. I was originally set to purchase the VC Overseas but Richmont group got greedy - made the blue Boutique exclusive and eventually dropped a lot of ADs in my area. I don’t want to play the game all over again for one piece when most of my purchase history was with my AD.
Swiss watches are like that 😅. They won’t not give the best version of the watch on their first launch. It is a marketing strategy so that you spend the money to buy this version first. When they release an improved version you will upgrade the your current one. Rolex and Tudor are good examples
I’d like to think it isn’t pre-planned obsolescence. More likely, it is a combination of artwork and machinery, as well as fashion. Since fashion changes and machines can be improved, I think it’s more likely that consumer feedback over time drives incremental improvements.
Great video, thanks a bunch. The white dial version of the Mark XX is non reflective? Did I get this right? So we have a sunburst metallic reflection on the black, blue and green dials but the white is completely flat? I’m still undecided if I should go with either the black or the white dial version.
Good question. The white dial is not a flat white, or matte. It has some luster. There is a flat white dial on the top gun aces, but that has a completely lumed dial. It goes well with the steel.
@@Randyswatches thanks. I probably just misinterpreted/misheard it then.
Lars, maybe I’m mis-remembering. Worst case, call the online boutique, they will send you a video or if you order the watch and don’t like it, they will accept a return.
@@Randyswatches Its weird that only so few videos of IWC watches exist especially for the Mark XX in white. All the more reason your videos are a real blessing. Would be nice if you could show the reflections of your IWCs crystals compared to your other watches. The glass of your ceratanium chrono in particular looks like it doesn’t reflect at all.
Excellent points on the Ingenieur. It’s a cool watch but they are way too proud of it at that price point. I think they have to know by know that they completely overshot, but they know they can’t just start selling it for ~$7k.
Hopefully they call it a “limited run” and give it time to cool off before doing a redesign and tanking the value. But I somehow doubt they are going to call me in as a consultant
I heard from my SA that although she can't share figures with me, that the line did so well last year, totally exceeded expectations, that she doesn't expect them to do much further with the line up in the coming year. Sit on their laurels I suppose.
Good for them. I don’t wish them any failure, obviously. I just hope that the secondary market stays strong so as not to devalue the brand.
@@Randyswatches me too! I think too, that the brand has done better on the secondary market as of late, not as many pieces simply flooding the market. Thank you for all the work you've put into your videos, I've definitely enjoyed following your IWC journey.
Lol no it's not worth only 7k
Amazing collection. Thank you for the video.
Nice collection! Would love updates on the durability of the ceratanium. Sounds great on paper, but I have doubts on actual performance. I’m looking for a blacked out watch, but it seems like all the coatings eventually rub off, and pure ceramic is fragile and can shatter. Thx!
Theoretically, it’s as light and shatter resistant as titanium, but as scratch resistant as ceramic. Mine looks the same as the day it was purchased and I wear it almost daily, changing straps frequently. If it gets damaged, I’ll post an update video. But I’m not going to set out to destroy it. Maybe I’ll test the back of the ceratanium clasp if I get bored.
Love the chronograph, looks amazing Iwc are very addictive and expensive
Yes and yes. But I think my itch is sufficiently scratched.
@@Randyswatches absolutely, 4 iwcs is more than enough, if I had the money I would like 3, only have a mark 18 but is by far my favourite watch I've owned
Gotta be honest, I tried the Ingenieur on this week and absolutely loved it lol. You have some valid points, though.
I’m not saying it isn’t a good watch. I’m saying if I have a choice between paying less for a Christopher Ward or more for an overseas, I would do either. But why do that when the Mark XX exists?
I’ve been obsessing with the green dial IWC model IW329306 just simple no date or complications as my last watch in my collection 👌🏽, but will probably settle for the JLC green reverso.
That’s not settling, that’s a great piece. The black/white on the brown leather is something I thought hard about. Happy hunting!
It seems like you're maybe a little bit annoyed about the modern Ingenieur? Haha, no I get it man. It's probably somewhat of a botched opportunity for IWC. The Ingenieur's always been my favourite line in IWC's collection. I've owned a 3227 and a 3239 previously. And it was always the Genta design that got me into it. Oddly enough, the one that ended up being my favourite, and I ended up owning long term is the odd one of modern Ingy's, the IW357002. I love the clinical dial, the case, and the way it hearkens back to the original 666. Even though it's not a Genta design, it still looks very much like you would think an Ingenieur should look like. It wears so beautifully on wrist, and even has the micro-adjust clasp like your Mark XX
I’ll look it up, thank you. The old titanium with the black dial and red accents and black strap sell for 6k and has been in my chrono24 list for a while. Maybe one year I’ll go neon-vintage and get one.
Congratulations! That Portugieser is awesome and an incredible movement with that perpetual calendar.
Thank you. I have yet to wear it in public because even though it looks amazing, I feel a little self conscious wearing it.
You got it?!?! That’s awesome! Congratulations. That is an incredible Portofino.
Ha that's funny, we might both be tripping, but you're right about the SCHAFFHAUSEN on the dials. I just blew up a couple pics of my Mark XVI and Ingenieur 3570 and it appears as though the bottoms of the F's are slightly higher than the other letters. I think it's just an optical illusion, but who knows, these luxury watch makers can be super quirky in their little details of slight.
I’ll show the perpetual calendar soon and you’ll see it is uneven as well.
Was it hard to get IWC rubber strap off?
It’s no more difficult than any other strap, but the rubber can tear if you aren’t careful. I’ve put it back on once or twice just to confirm that I hate it.
@@Randyswatches do you know if it can be order with a different strap? not an additional one. i just dont like the look of the original one. maybe it can be ordered with a rubber one?
Call the online concierge and ask for Lauren. I’m sure she can do it for you.
@@randys766 thank you!
Nice collection. Looking forward to some wrist shots of the Portuguese. Feel like you have all the bases covered with that IWC collection. Intrigued to see what VC you had in mind…… happy collecting!
Overseas or overseas dual time black dial. But I just don’t know if I could justify another watch in the collection without purging some, and I can’t think of an IWC that I’d be willing to part with.
Nice video. What kind of strap do you have on the Top Gun chrono?
Ritchie canvas. They are almost exactly the same as Barton but a little more substantial.
I don’t think this strap can work with my IWC as it has the easy x strap
It will
I love the mark 20, it's my dream but I don't think ill ever have it lol
The Grand Canyon was once just a trickling stream. The more discipline and patience you have, the sweeter it will be to look at it on your wrist. Open an account, save $1000 a year, and in 5 years buy a used piece that will remind you every day of your own value and determination.
@@Randyswatches You really have a way with words; you're fluent and persuasive.
Sir you're a real inspiration! Thanks for the words of encouragement, I'll definitely be putting them into practice.
How many IWCs do you need? :)
I’m done. The box fits 4. I feel like it’s a sign.
Add another 4 piece box 😂
God… maybe. I could easily pick another 4. Portofino hand wound, big pilot, enginieur titanium (vintage), and Novecento
Your video made me pulled the trigger:) got the exact same one. Didn’t like the new strap system and found a great deal on this, so it was an easy decision. Thank you.
Congratulations. I know you will love wearing it. There’s just something special about it.
Thanks for making the video... I just picked up my second spitfire, but was confused by the new movement thanks for clearing that up
Did you get the new movement with the extended power reserve? Either way it’s still a killer watch and I don’t even think about it anymore.
I love and feel your love of IWC man! I've been collecting luxury watches for almost 15 years now, and IWC watches remain very close to my heart. Just something about the brand and their pieces.
They just speak to me. I’m afraid that the next brand that will speak to me later in life is going to be Vacheron.
@@Randyswatches Snap! I'm retiring this year at 54 and VC is my top choice as my retirement watch. Probably either a Traditionelle, or a Fiftysix
Maybe I should work 2 years longer lol
If I could only have one watch forever, I guess it would have to be an overseas black dial, probably dual time. But I’m wearing my spitfire today and I would miss it too much
Ay you do you thats great that new watch is superb well done 👏
Ty
How much does it weigh?
I didn’t put it on a scale, but I can. The watch feels like it’s a little heavier than titanium. It is not top heavy.
@@Randyswatches if you have the time to weigh it, please let me know! Thanks
Are the numbers and/ or indices having lume, or only at the 3/6/9? That's killing me on the Mark series, whereas the Big Pilot 43 has a fully lumed dial.
Yes. However it does not bother me. It’s just to beautiful for me to care. Perhaps a Sinn or Zenith would be more your style.
Thanks. I have a nice Sinn with excellent lume. Too bad IWC doesn't offer full lume on their 40mm pilots. How do you tell time quickly at night with only the compass points? Even then, the 3 o'clock point wouldn't seem to have any lume at all due to the date? A weird design feature/flaw IMO.
I have the IW326806 I bought 4 months ago, and I HATE the "EasX-CHANGE system"! I would Much rather have the regular strap. it feels cheap, as it rattles around when you shake it, because the clasp that grabs the spring bar is loose. The first inch on each spring bar end of the strap is Stiff! and doesn't move, making for a band that flares out and doesn't wrap around the wrist tight. This is because of the metal plate in the band on both sides to accommodate the EasX-CHANGE. You are NOT missing out on this proprietary crap band system that's designed to sell expensive watch bands and adds nothing of value that a regular watch band with built in quick release spring bars like Oris and Christopher Ward and other manufactures use. 120 hr movement is nice but this is a daily wear for me so doesn't;t matter and is about 7 seconds or more fast every day and I expected for the price it would be more accurate. Don't get me wrong, this is my FAVORITE watch I've ever owned but the watch band is unusable so I don't use it. and you have NOT missed out. Thanks for your review!
You bring up a good point, it is a little “rattly”. I think on the spitfire bronze, the brown leather fits so well that it just belongs and should stay. But I’ll say that the Mark XX looks so good on both leather and bracelet, that the ease exchange system is an added bonus. Thanks for your comment!
Nice Job on all the videos, really enjoyed the 4 vid series. Once you get the Portofino, please share it with the watch geeks.
Absolutely. I’m considering the Portuguese over the Portofino. Hope I get it this year to share. Thanks for the nice words
I would throw some caution to the IWC perpetual calendars. You can't adjust the calendar backwards if you accidentally move it forward. Or just wait for it to catch up. You would need to send it back to IWC and they charge near $1K to reset. I think you're getting to a point where if you want IWC, it may be worth looking into an Aquatimer to add a diver element unless you really want an office watch, dressed up. I would wait for W&W to happen in a couple of weeks to see what they release next.
That’s a great thought. We will just see how it plays out when I’m ready to make another purchase. Maybe a hand wound 8 days will strike next. Appreciate the comment.
save your $1,000. if you accidentally advance it forward, just let it wind down. time will catch up.
Or pull the crown out for a day…
Loved the video. I have a Pilot 36 , black dial, bracelet. It looks very similar to the Mark 20. I REALLY want a green dial, Mark 20…. Am I crazy?
Yes. But that’s ok. Do it 👍
Nice video! I’m watching all three of the series.
That sounds painful. Hopefully this year I get my perpetual calendar and make a better video. Thanks for watching!