In January of 2023, I began a simple, if ambitious project: to catalog, hopefully listen to, and in some cases perform - every piano concerto ever written. My catalog now has about 3800 pieces by over 1600 composers, but there's still a large body of works that either have never been recorded, or if they have, they have not been published on KZread or anywhere else I could find. However, many of them do have sheet music readily available. So I decided if I can't find a recording, I'll go ahead and make one. Yeah, it's MIDI, but better than nothing at all. Hopefully someone will hear these and be inspired to perform them for real.
I may entertain requests, with the following rules:
* Must be a piano or other keyboard concerto. May include other soloists (just not vocals).
* Must be public domain - published pre-1929 and composer dead for 70+ years
* Must have sheet music available legally and free (preferably full parts)
* Must not already exist on KZread
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Thank you very much for rescuing this music from oblivion. A wonderful composition of elegance and beauty. Blessed be The Composer!
Thanks for listening, more to come.
Music collector here! Thank you very much for your contribution to music, reviving works by forgotten masters! Please continue with your work! Is there any way I can help you with your work? Thanks, again!
Well, I'm always open to suggestions for other composers to look at. I notice you're in Spain? That's a bit of a blind spot for me, I'm sure there's some good Spanish composers that aren't on my radar - most of the ones I know about are much more recent and generally not public domain. I seem to have done a lot of German ones, but that's just what's available to me, not a deliberate choice. (It does seem like the majority of classical music from this time period does come from there, but maybe that's just what's been preserved mostly.) I'm also looking for more sources for scores. IMSLP has been pretty good for that, but there's a lot of stuff they don't have. I know there are some libraries that lend out scores, but mostly only to orchestras, and anyhow I mostly stick with digital copies of the scores rather than paper manuscripts, so I can freely mark them up. Beyond that, just spreading the word helps. I'd like to get the attention of some orchestras if you happen to know any - the whole point of this channel is to inspire these lost works to be performed for real.
This sounds like a synth version.
That would be because it is. See disclaimer in the description. The purpose of this channel is to create simulated performances of never-recorded works, in the hopes of maybe inspiring a real orchestra to perform and record them. Obviously a real performance would be far superior, but this is better than nothing at all.
Great to hear this! Thank you for your work on making it available.
Thanks for listening. It's too bad I can't seem to find his second concerto (nicknamed "Prairie"), beyond the solo reduction on IMSLP. I've played it myself (sans orchestra of course) - it's short, only one movement, but there's some good stuff in there.
@@Darrel_Hoffman Yes it's a pity that 'La Prairie' isn't available in any of the reliable world catalogues - Paris would be the obvious place to start, but it doesn't appear in the France Union Catalogue, so is perhaps either lost or in private ownership.
Wonderful! I really enjoyed
Thanks, more to come. Not from Nicolay - these two are the only concertos he wrote that I know of. But my next few releases are from around the same time period.
@@Darrel_Hoffman Thank you. I am going to be enjoying your next works with pleasure.
What software/VST are you currently using to play the MIDI?
I do my note-entry in a program called Mozart, which I've found is the fastest and easiest for that of all the programs I've tried. I used to use Mozart exclusively, but (starting from the Kleeberg Concerto) I now export MIDI from that and import it into MuseScore, which gives much better sound quality. I do all the polish now in MuseScore (articulation, ornaments, dynamics), but Mozart is still way faster for the basic note-entry since it can be done entirely from the keyboard, while MuseScore (and most other programs I've seen) require constant switching between mouse and keyboard, or sometimes using both at once, which really slows you down. I know a lot of people use Sibelius, Encore, Finale, Dorico, and a few others, but those are all a bit expensive, while MuseScore is free. (Mozart isn't free either, but I've had it for years - granted I'm a few versions older than their current one.) To be slightly pedantic, the output from MuseScore is not technically MIDI but a newer format called SoundFonts. I think it's still MIDI under the hood, but with some enhancements. MIDI has been around a lot longer, but it has some major limitations - First, you're limited to 16 channels at a time, which these concertos definitely push against. You can share channels and play multiple notes at once, provided they're the same instrument, but if 2 instruments on the same channel need to play the same note but with different lengths, you just can't. This also applies to instruments which can be played in more than one way - e.g. pizzicato vs. arco on strings need to be separate instruments, so you either need to use more channels, or do lots of voice-changes every time it switches. Also it's not possible in MIDI to change the volume mid-note. Not a problem for the piano as real pianos can't do that either, but most of the other instruments can, so that's harder to deal with.
Thanks for letting us hear mvts. II & III. The fyrexianoff video of mvt. I gives the performers: Eugene Logvinovsky/SO of the Kiev Music Institute named after R.Gliere/Vitaly Protasov.
Pardon for my ignorance, what does fyrexianoff means?
oh nvm it's a youtube channel! i remember watching some piece uploaded by someone with that name lol
Yes, it's actually the 3rd-largest of my sources for piano concertos on KZread, after Remus Platen and Corentin Boissier's collection of channels. And unlike those two, they're mostly score videos as well. Fyrexianoff is the reason I was inspired to do scores instead of just audio-only.
NOTE: This is the 2nd and 3rd movements only. The 1st has been recorded, and if you haven't already done so, I strongly suggest that you listen to that first. Links in the description.
Wonderful! More to come. Please
Good to know there's an audience even for these older works. My main focus is on Romantic period concertos, but there's only so many of those that haven't been recorded, while there's lots of forgotten stuff from this time period. These are also generally a lot less work - except when I need to write cadenzas - I probably spent more time on the two cadenzas than I did on the whole concerto and I'm still not satisfied with them. Ah well. More are definitely coming, so thanks for listening.
If you'd like to hear a better rendition of part of this, Martin Walsh has done an excerpt of the third movement here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJWuta2Mib2Wgbw.html It's not the complete piece, but I'll admit that it definitely sounds better than my version.
For whomever interested: in the YT channel Martin Walsh (also doing MIDIs of unheard music) you'll find Zellner's Symphony #1. A string trio is available on CD or Spotify. Nothing else that I'm aware of, despite he wrote several chamber and piano works, another Symphony and lieder.
Might as well provide a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4F3wc5qnajPmZM.html I took a look at his channel - he's mostly doing symphonies, while I'm focused on piano concertos, so there's not much overlap. Besides Zellner, he's done one movement of the Gyula Major concerto, which I'll admit sounds better than my rendition. He also did a work by Carl Joseph Brambach, whose concerto remains one of my favorite that I've transcribed, possibly due for a re-mastering since I've improved my sound quality since then by using MuseScore.
@@Darrel_Hoffman yep you guys make me both happy with different stuff. A few people also do solo piano works on MIDI but solo piano literature is immense (however studies are welcome especially because there's no imperative need of expression; well not completely true but .... Ok). MIDI doesn't work well for chamber music that could also be a great source of unheard masterworks. It doesn't work at all for vocal music unfortunately hence God knows how many great cantatas, oratorios, masses, motets, etc. we'll never enjoy. Sore for off topics.
Do you have xml file for the synthesized midi?
I have the MuseScore files I created for this, and that can export to XML, but I've never done that before, so I'm not sure how the fidelity is. They are also optimized for audio over visual, so I did some things that are maybe not pretty in the interests of making it sound better. (e.g. spelling out ornaments explicitly rather than just using the symbols, doubling up on the string parts for a fuller sound, etc.) If you just want the sheet music, the original PDF's are free on IMSLP, which is where I found them. Link is in the description. There's one file for the piano (which was also used for the visuals in this video) and another for the orchestra parts.
You found a Baroque addicted, dude!
Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was much of an audience for this sort of thing, given how relatively few people watched my other Baroque or early Classical pieces - It might be the Bach name that helped here - almost nobody's heard of Barbieri or Masek or Tapray, but Bach is a household name. Granted not many people know about THIS Bach, but the name could still be a draw. I might do more of these if people are interested, as there's a much larger pool of them to choose from. (The more recent stuff is far more likely to have existing recordings.) And they do tend to be a lot less work, as they're usually shorter and with fewer parts. I do prefer Romantic period stuff personally, but that well is running a bit dry, and they take a lot more time to do. I may space them out to give them the time they need and do these simpler ones in between.
@@Darrel_Hoffman thanks much 🙂
Thanks a lot for this concerto and the subsequent number 2. It's unbelievable how a very good composer like Steibelt is criminally underrated and mostly forgotten. Whatever I happen to encounter it's as a minimum good music, often great music. He's unfortunately solely remembered for the infamous defeat in an improvisation's challenge in Vienna against Beethoven. As much as Beethoven is the greatest (or amongst the greatest) of all times, Steibelt would certainly deserve a much better destiny and more executions of his works. Coming to his 7 piano concertos you have fille out the gap but you made me curious about his 8th ...... God knpows if there's any score...... It's still desirable that Shelley would opt one day to complete Steibelt recording and perhaps even catch up with piano sonatas, also not entirely available. However your choice is very much appreciated: at least we can guess how the music would be and, my firs reaction, concertos number 1 & 2 are as good as Ferdinand Ries jobs.
Yes, the 8th would be very interesting to hear as it's apparently one of the first piano concerti to include a chorus. (Beethoven once again beat him to the punch with the Choral Fantasy, but that's not quite a concerto.) Another unrecorded piano concerto including a chorus is the Henri Herz #6, which is the only one of his 8 that Shelley did not record. From what I hear the orchestral parts have been lost, so I've been working on a reconstruction based on the cues in the piano solo part. I can't synthesize the voices, however, so that one is going to be questionable.
@@Darrel_Hoffman yes thanks I very much regret Shelley did not record HH #6. But would be interesting to hear your reconstruction. It's sad how much music have been lost due to war, fire, careless attitude, self or posthumous destruction, etc. (my favorite rediscover would be the cello romances of Schumann destroyed by Clara: if only one additional manuscript existed, hidden somewhere by Joachim who salvaged violin concerto by miracle ..... Also Sibelius whole eight symphony would not be bad ..... )
It'll be posted here eventually, but obviously a reconstruction takes much more work than mere transcriptions, so this will take a bit longer. Part of the problem is that while the piano reduction does tell you vaguely what instruments are doing what during the Tutti sections, you get no such clues at all during the piano parts, so my arrangement may end up being a bit sparse for that, but it's better than nothing.
@@Darrel_Hoffman God bless your pioneering job. Very much appreciated!
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God bless you for this one. Mayer piano music is wonderful and so underrated that no one would dare more to execute his concertante. At least we have a midi..... One day someone would make it humanly. With thanks again
There's actually a fair number of Mayer's works on IMSLP, including another earlier concerto (sadly lacking the orchestral parts, so I can't transcribe it unless I find another source). There's a bit of confusion in that there are two Charles Mayers (I believe father and son? But that's only a guess as one is occasionally referred to as "Jr.") And there's apparently some doubt as to who wrote what.
@@Darrel_Hoffman interesting.... Didn't know about father and son. Who's the author of op 200, the wonderful studies, father or son?
I am by no means an expert - this concerto is the only work of his that I am familiar with, and only because of my work for this video, though it's enough to make me interested in taking a deeper look. I'm going by comments on the IMSLP and Wikipedia pages (linked in the description). I would suspect that most of them are by the elder, but there's a couple works that have publication dates after his death in 1862 that are more likely the work of the younger (died in 1904), though posthumous publication is not unusual. (And I'm only guessing that the two are related based on the "Jr." sometimes seen in the name. It could be just a coincidence.)
Very worthwhile, rare discovery. Thank you so much for your dedication to this!
Thanks for listening, this was a fun one, especially the third movement - even if it took me twice as long as usual. So many notes. Fun to play as well, though I'm not nearly at the level where I could play this in public with an orchestra or anything.
Reminds me of Mozart #25
It does, doesn't it? The opening bars are close enough to be near-plagiarism. I had to check the dates - Mozart's #25 was 1786, and Kleeberg's was 1809, so it's almost certain he was familiar with Mozart's works. The Mozart is generally played a bit slower, but then maybe I went too fast? For scores from this time period, they rarely put the actual BPM intended, so there's room for interpretation.
@@Darrel_Hoffman Pastiching can be fun… especially when trying to synthesize multiple sources. My D Minor concerto (on my channel) tries to do that with three different concertos at once, the Mozart and Beethoven C Minors, and (in the third movement) the Chopin E Minor. I have several other concertos if you’d like to listen.
Nice, have a subscription. I'm always looking to expand my catalog, part of the motivation behind starting this channel. I've been (very slowly) working on a concerto of my own, but nothing in a state I want to publish yet. I will eventually premiere it here, but it's a lot of work. I've also done some arrangements of other works - I have a concerto orchestration of Beethoven's 2nd piano sonata that's basically complete, but needs some polish. I'm also working on reconstructing Henri Herz's 6th Concerto after my moderate success transcribing the 5th (the orchestra parts are apparently lost, which may be why it was never recorded while the other 7 have.) Only problem with that is it involves a chorus in the 3rd movement, and that's going to be impossible to simulate well, so it'll just be oohs and ahhs - better than nothing, I guess? We'll see, it's going to be a little bit before I put any of that up.
Excelente
Félicitations. Ce doit être une grande joie de raviver l'oeuvre d'un compositeur oublié. Bonne continuation
Merci, c'est la mission de cette chaîne. Si par hasard vous êtes à Paris, je serais curieux de savoir s'il existe une dédicace à ce compositeur à l'adresse où il habitait lorsqu'il l'a écrit et qui figure sur la première page de son deuxième concerto. Je ne sais cependant pas s'il était suffisamment connu pour de tels honneurs.
Concerto muito bonito, pena que a orquestra é fake.
Obrigado por ouvir. O objetivo deste canal é divulgar obras esquecidas que não foram gravadas por uma orquestra real. Espero que alguém com acesso a uma orquestra se inspire para gravá-la de verdade.
Well, this seems to be more about how MIDI can spoil a “Romantic” concerto …. :( By the way, have you ever considered giving a simulated performance of Henryk Bobiński's first piano concerto (whose full score is available on IMSLP)? I found the live performance of its first movement (kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqx6wbKxm9LSj5M.html) to be quite attractive, yet the remaining two movements (as well as his second piano concerto) appear to have remained unrecorded.
Since I did this one, I've switched over to MuseScore for the audio, which might sound a bit better, but yeah, a simulated performance will never be as good as a real one. I might consider at "re-mastering" some of the ones I did earlier like this one by putting them into MuseScore, though I already have 2 versions of this one, so maybe not right away. I've also heard a performance of the first movement of the Bobinski #1: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6ijlsmxntnVYZs.html - Might be the same one? Only that's a score video. I could take a look at doing the other 2 movements, though I'm not sure I could do the 1st movement justice when there's a real performance available...
I have just released my rendition of the 2nd and 3rd movements: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqWD1tKmiJW3pbQ.html The 2nd concerto I could only find a piano solo reduction of the middle movement, so I can't do much with that.
“I saw at one time on KZread a discussion about piano concertos that open with just the soloist ….” May you post the URL? (Also, I suspect that there has been some discussion of violin concertos that start with just the soloist, but I cannot find such a one. Although I have heard recordings of such concertos before, I am sure that there exist many more such concertos that have not yet been recorded.)
I would have if I remembered where it was. I spent most of a year prior to starting this project doing nothing but listening to and cataloging piano concertos, so there's literally thousands of them it could've been. Kind of wish I'd taken more detailed notes on stuff like that but I didn't know I was going to be starting this channel at the time. It's probably somewhere in my catalog playlists, but there's over a month solid of music in there if you listened to it non-stop.
bro the music software vibes hit me like a truck
Please read the disclaimer in the description. I'm well aware that this is no substitute for a real recording. The purpose of this channel is to bring attention to long forgotten pieces that have never been recorded, in the hopes that someone will be inspired to perform them for real.
It's always wonderful to come across and hear a completely new piano concerto! While the string section tones are still very rough, I think you've succeeded very well with this reproduction. To the composer's credit, the music is very fine and well written. Though one could have hoped for a more substantial final movement, as it is, a slightly unbalanced work on the whole. Thank you for the huge effort you've made with this!
Thanks. Yes, I agree that the third movement was somewhat lacking, and like the second, far too short. The first movement is well over half of the piece. As always, I would love to hear this played on real instruments. The strings are the always hardest to reproduce well on the computer, and given how much prominence is given to the cello part, that hurt this one a bit.
This concert is dedicated to the Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna (1786-1859), the daughter of Russian tsar Pavel (Paul) I (1754-1801; ruled the country in 1796-1801) and later the wife of Karl Friedrich (Charles Frederick; 1783-1853), the Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. Probably there is some information related to Kleeberg (in old manner is the writing Cleeberg possible, too) in Russian and German archives. In Wikipedia, I've found nothing about him.
Thanks for that. Some of that (the dedication) is on the title page, though between the font choice and poor scan quality it's a bit hard to read (and that's after I boosted the contrast on it too - the original from IMSLP is even worse). I assumed there would be more info from German sources, but didn't consider Russian. There's probably some French sources as well, given that's where this edition was apparently published. But if these sources exist, they seem to not be online, so it might require more digging into actual libraries rather than just the internet. Searching under the alternate spelling of Cleeberg didn't yield any additional results (Google apparently already corrects for that by offering close phonetic matches.)
Thanks again for letting us hear this work. According to the New Grove Dictionary, there are three Fleischmann concertos, Op. 1 (1794), Op. 3 (1796), and Op. 4 (1797).
Okay, that's good to know, a surprising amount of work for such a short career. I might try doing the others if I can find them, though I'm not sure how I'd go about tracking them down. The Fleisher collection I was pointed to only has one work of his, a symphony, Op.5. (And even if they had the concertos, I'm still not sure if they'd loan things out to anyone but orchestras.) I'd ask in the UC forums, but this is well before the romantic period, so it's probably off-topic there. Don't suppose you know of any similar forums that cover baroque and/or early classical? (I think this is kind of borderline, since it could also be played on harpsichord according to the cover page.)
Grateful as I am for this, I do believe that a more sophisticated computer realisation would result in a better listening experience.
Yeah, as I've stated before, the medium does have a great deal of technical limitations. The goal is not to be the definitive recording but rather to promote awareness of the piece and inspire those with the means to arrange a real performance.
@@Darrel_Hoffman If you are using Musescore to input the music, then you should look into using Musesounds: from what I've heard (though I don't use Musescore myself), it's free and rather straightforward to install and operate. Much like the Noteperformer soundfonts are for Dorico and Sibelius programs: but unlike Musesounds, there is a one-time price tag on Noteperformer, though.
@@Darrel_Hoffman I quite understand, but listening to this is extremely trying and needs to be improved in order to attract attention from possible performers.
@@Darrel_Hoffman I think the sound reproduction needs to be a lot better in order to attract possible performers to the music.
I'm using a program called "Mozart", though my sounds are coming from an "GeneralUser GS" by S. Christian Collins, connected through CoolSoft VirtualMIDISynth (the default sounds in Mozart are much, much worse, trust me.) It works reasonably well, though there are some problems with individual instruments that bother me - most notably, the viola does not sound good without the violin parts on top of it. Strings in general are harder to do in MIDI just due to the variety of ways in which they can be played. MIDI is limited to 16 instruments playing at once. I can change which instruments those are, but never have more than 16 at a time, so I have to do tricks to make those 16 channels sounds like more instruments than they actually are. Individual string instruments do not sound like a real string section, so in the louder parts, I will layer them over with Ensemble Strings or Tremolo Strings to give it more body. But this takes more channels. To fully realize strings can take as many as 7 channels - violin (shared by I & II), viola, cello, bass, pizzicato, tremolo, and ensemble, but that leaves only 9 for the rest, which usually isn't enough, so I end up dropping some of the special effects. The other problem that's particular to MIDI is that it is impossible to change the volume of a note mid-note. So when you want something to start of quiet and get louder over time while just playing one note (or vice versa), you simply can't - MIDI just doesn't do that. You have to stop playing the note and then start again at the new volume. The compromise is to stagger volume changes between the various instruments so those start/stop bits are not so obvious. That was more of a problem with this piece than most of my earlier transcriptions. I think it might take something more advanced than MIDI to truly capture some of these pieces well, but that is something I don't know how to do currently. My next few pieces are going to be simpler ones I think, until I find a way around these limitations.
Thanks again Darrel. A wonderful discovery! This certainly whets the appetite to hear the work with the full orchestration of 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets (B♭), 2 bassoons + 4 horns, 2 trumpets (C), 3 trombones + timpani + strings.
Yes, I expected it would have the usual standard set of instruments, and that looks about right. But I'd be completely guessing on what plays where, and at best it'd be my own original arrangement unless I could find the actual parts. (I have done some arranging - one thing I plan to post at some point is my own orchestration of a Beethoven sonata into concerto form, but I'll save that for later. I may even post some completely original stuff - all this study of the form has given me some ideas for my own composition, but that's obviously a lot more work.)
The full score and parts have been digitized by the National Library of Norway. You can view them on that website as well as Borgstróm’s piano concerto in d minor. Tuomas Palojärvi has now uploaded on KZread the first few pages of the Concerto, Op. 22 using the full score and including the first cadenza left out in the present realization. It would be great to hear the entire work with the original orchestration.
Took a bit of searching (their search tool only seems to work if you type in Norwegian), but I found it. Unfortunately it does suffer from some of the same readability issues as the reduction score I worked from, but I should be able to work with it still. Expect it to appear in the future - but not right away, this will take some time and I've got others that will be going up first.
Glad you found it. I tried three times to include the URLs for the full score and parts in my comment, but KZread wouldn’t allow it to post. All I could do is mention where the mss are.
Could you link the Palojarvi recording? YT is generally okay about posting other YT links, and I'm curious how he handled that cadenza - I started putting it in there and it still sounds really out of place in that location to me - just really interrupts the flow of that rising run in the strings...
I like having a single file with timings or links to the beginning of each movement. Thanks again for letting us hear unrecorded/little performed piano concertos.
Alright - I may still have to split some of them up if they're really long - I think I may have technical limitations when it gets to an hour or more, but for average length 20-30 min. I'll stick with one video.
Yes, this was recorded by Hyperion. The key is F major rather than d minor.
Really? Definitely sounds minor at least at the beginning. I can correct that easily enough. As for the Hyperion recording, I did search for it on KZread without any luck. So maybe it'll show up eventually, this is here in the meantime. (Meanwhile, the one I did of the Herz #5 is still my most popular video, even though the Hyperion recording is available and linked both in the comments and the description. Maybe there's some advantage since it's a score video and not just a title page? Not sure how much that adds to the draw. Maybe it's just that Herz is slightly more well known than some of these others? Who knows how any of this works. Maybe I will release the Herz #3 someday anyhow, even though the Hyperion is available, since I've got it nearly finished, but I've got enough others in the backlog for now.)
I looked at the ends of the first and third movements and F seems to be the principal key. It is wonderful to be able to follow the music with the scores.
Incidentally, where do people stand on one video for the whole concerto vs. separate videos for each movement? I was going to split up the longer ones but leave the shorter ones as one video. Didn't do that here because 1.) The second movement is really short in this case, and 2.) It doesn't quite end so much as leave you hanging for the third. Also, the last time I did that with the Brambach, KZread only likes to promote your most recent video, so I had 3 times as many hits on the third movement as on the first (if you were one of those people, by the way, I do recommend going back to hear the whole thing, the first movement is pretty good.) It's not too much more work to combine them, but I've got one in the works that's probably over an hour long, and I think that might be pushing it for a single video...
Nice--A LOT of work! If you're looking for a better sound, and can afford it, I use Finale for my classical stuff. The factory sounds are pretty good. Here's my arrangement of Rachmaninoff's G Minor Prelude using Finale: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIKbk7Opp8LTiZs.html (I'm not plugging it, nor am I compensated or connected with them, but just remember hating how my MIDI arrangements sounded without a lot of editing.)
I'm using Mozart (not sure how well known that program is but I've had it for years). The sounds are from CoolSoft VirtualMIDISynth, which is WAY better than what Mozart sounds like by default. I don't have the budget to get anything else at the moment. I looked at Sibelius, but the free version only allows 4 voices, which isn't nearly enough for these. (I'm usually using all 16 allowed by MIDI - there've been times I wished I had more.) What I really need is a better video editor. I've been using DaVinci Resolve to make these, but some of its settings are way too arcane, and I've been having a terrible time with the audio. Either it renders with no sound, or with the sound is duplicated on top of itself with an offset so it's all echoey, or the sound is out of sync with the video, or worst yet - the sound is perfectly fine locally - until I upload it to KZread and then it's completely gone. The Bohner concerto from a few weeks ago had that problem initially, and so did this one (at least I had the sense to not make it public until I got one that worked this time - took about 8 attempts). I eventually had to recreate all 3 movements using Canva for the video, which works, but it's like video editing for babies. I need something in between that works reliably; there's just too much guesswork in my current workflow. Anyone else who does score videos, I'd love to get some tips on what software you use for it. (Hopefully free, because again, no budget...)
It would be great if you could do whatever you can with Herz pc6, even without the choral texts. It looks like Hyperion won’t record that. Hyperion was sold to Universal Music, so many of their recordings are now being posted on KZread, Naxos Music Library, etc.
Unfortunately, I just took a closer look at the Herz #6 and it turns out it actually does not have a full score - just the piano and chorus with orchestral cues. I hadn't looked very closely because I knew it had a chorus and I couldn't do much with that. Best I could do would be a piano solo rendition with some fakey oohs and ahs for the chorus in the finale. I suppose that's good news about Hyperion though, they've always been kind of a pain - I wonder how many other gaps in my catalog I can now fill with these new Universal releases?
Darrel, I applaud your efforts, but pianist Howard Shelley recorded all the Herz piano concertos with the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra (except No. 6) on the Hyperion CD label years ago. These are readily available, including No. 5 on youtube.
I didn't find full versions of them when I searched for them. My experience with Hyperion is that they are insanely strict about copyright infringement, and have taken down numerous videos for this. I've seen some of them up there, but they're either mostly just excerpts and not the whole piece, or they've been muted for copyright violation. Ah well, maybe I'll hold off on the 3rd (it is one of his longest at around 30 min - I have it all transcribed, but it needs some polish) and work on something else instead, I've got several others nearly ready to go.
Ah, I see what happened - this was released only about a week ago: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGFpmMx8m9fQqs4.html i.e. after I started work on this piece. So it wasn't available when I looked but was added later. Anyhow, watch that one while it lasts. We'll see if it gets taken down again...