Well i didn't won't to buy a SawStop contractor because i new the extra cost of things but guess what i did buy it 😅 i could have bought a laguna f3 for much cheaper price where somehow something tells me i should have but be happy with what you have cheers 🍻
@fb510m27 күн бұрын
toooo much whining vid of no value👎🏻
@mist49263 ай бұрын
Wow that is beautiful ❤
@AftonWoodworks3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@kennethholmes93154 ай бұрын
You seem challenged. Maybe this kind of thing isn’t for you.
@KentFollmer-pd2uc6 ай бұрын
Your problem with the bolts connecting saw to base was because you did not follow instructions. It tells you to leave bolts loose in the stand until after the four bolts are in.
@paulstrange8607 Жыл бұрын
Hi great job what grit sandpaper did you use
@justinb7558Ай бұрын
220 grit he stated
@michaelshelnutt3534 Жыл бұрын
Same setup is more now 5 yrs later...
@ianmcginnis1570 Жыл бұрын
You buy festoool and whine about getting nickel and dimed by sawstop! When I put my saw together I left the stand bolts a little loose and went together perfectly. I didn’t call sawstop and be a chad about something so insignificant! Dude you are the whiniest person I’ve ever heard.
@davidfitzgerald5217 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I'm in the process of making one for a client. What type of varnish did you use for the finish, look's amazing.
@WisdomShortvids Жыл бұрын
Its quicker to use a coat of varnish
@ranger374v Жыл бұрын
Its a great saw.
@leeleber8165 Жыл бұрын
I do colored epoxy inlays frequently. often with multiple colors. One of the things I have learned is that if you seal the pockets with a white pigmented wood sealer. This gives a much more accurate color (similar to the color in the mixing cup). Without the white background, the poured epoxy reflects the color of the wood behind it. This process also prevents color bleed of the epoxy into the grain of the wood.
@mist49263 ай бұрын
You should wear gloves glasses and a mask. I heard people can get very sick from resin
@thetoogies9812 Жыл бұрын
The 1:1 ratio is by volume not by weight. The two parts have different densities which means a pound of each will not have the same volume. Be careful when you measure quantities by weight.
@tomasmartinez7834 Жыл бұрын
Thank you great video. I appreciate your time I will let you know when mine arrives, I just order the 5 hp with large sliding cross cut table
@bobmedic3214 Жыл бұрын
Belt is on inside out
@ClimbHi19506 ай бұрын
Nope. It's supposed to be that way. The pulleys don't have teeth like a timing belt would. Prolly swapped roller gears or lack of bushing on the Shelix shaft.
@kennnva551Ай бұрын
@@ClimbHi1950 I just got a DW735 and installed the Byrd Shelix. When removing the chain, I pulled it and the sprockets off as a group ... kept all 3 pieces together (never removed the chain off the sprockets). THEN I set it aside with the screws sitting in the sprockets in their original orientation just so I'd know how they're supposed to be reinstalled. I did ALMOST forget transferring that spacer-washer behind the large belt pulley.
@larryjacobs5713 Жыл бұрын
What are you using to route these patterns?
@TechieTard Жыл бұрын
AF = As fuck! You weren't wining, you were pointing out legitimate facts. Except for the location of the controller.
@TechieTard Жыл бұрын
Man, I didn't realize that the nickel and diming was so obnoxiously expensive! This is the same saw a\I'm looking at with all the same extras, and that's fkn expensive. Gonna have to fabricate some stuff!
@darrellsaturnbigfoot Жыл бұрын
Nice, but why not use the router and 1/4” end mill to remove the epoxy instead of needless sanding?
@Ritalie Жыл бұрын
There is something wrong with the pricing. It's not acceptable. The technology cost pennies to produce. Modern circuit boards are not expensive, and there are no rare metals or hard to produce parts on a Saw Stop saw. The fact that they are almost 3 times more expensive than a comparable saw without the $20 worth of electronics, is unacceptable. The worst part is that the patent laws prevent any other company from creating their own version of blade stop technology. Bosch perfected a gas cartridge system that snapped the blade down quickly, and due to Saw Stop's lawyers (presumably) Bosch had to stop building their technology. In what world is it ok to prevent other companies from creating their own life saving technology? Stopping a blade is not some small thing, it's a matter of life or death. And no patent should be capable of blocking safety features on any piece of equipment, under any circumstances. This is a case where the government needs to do their job, and they need to actually set an expiration date for the Saw Stop patents due to National Interest. The government has apparently taken away at least 5,000 patents from their respective owners when the patent deals with something that has profound implications for day to day life, so there is already a well established precedent. But in this case, they need to make the patents open source, and prevent any company from holding a monopoly over "machinery safety features." This is a case where there is actually a good reason for the government to take the patent away, because Saw Stop is actively preventing other companies from offering an affordable product. Saw Stop saws are not affordable for the general public. Table saws are the single most dangerous piece of equipment ever created by man, and it it should be legal mandate that all new table saws must include some form of an electronic "flesh sensing technology." If someone wants a saw without the technology, they can flip a switch and shut it off. But it should be legally required to be included on all new table saws. Saw Stop is going about this the wrong way, and unfortunately karma is going to get them in the end. Karma is a real thing, we've seen it with GM and Chrysler, and many other companies. Viciously attacking other competitors who make a similar but sufficiently different technology that helps prevent injuries (Bosch) is not good business, it's just malicious. Allowing all the companies to have their own version of the technology would drastically reduce the cost, without putting anyone out of business.
@bigpapaporsche1 Жыл бұрын
Very nice job. Here a question that I haven't found an answer to. Could you have applied a stain to the box after you sanded the Epoxy flat and then apply a finish. I am making a Maple Table that I want a Black Epoxy Compass Rose ,CNC into, but I want the surrounding wood stained to match the interior of a RV Van. What do you think?
@AftonWoodworks Жыл бұрын
You could, but I think a stain would change the appearance of the epoxy even so lightly unless you wipe the stain off that portion. That was my concern on the recent boat table I built. See video on my channel.
@sandrarattray1202 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work. Quick question… was the raised outer rim glued on as a separate piece after you used Shaper to engrave the lettering?
@AftonWoodworks Жыл бұрын
Exactly right. Once glued, flush cut the outside edges and did the corners.
@bigdogmn73 Жыл бұрын
Great verse...Are you in Afton MN?
@AftonWoodworks Жыл бұрын
Yes I am
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@hankpikuni70242 жыл бұрын
That looks really good
@sonofabutcher70032 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the initial review and follow up! I recently ordered one of these saws and it’s good to know it has performed well for you. Too bad you got some off the negative comments that you did but I guess it goes with the territory. Personally I think some things are better left unsaid. What I picked up on you in your first video was that you are a person that is very attentive to detail. I imagine that’s a quality that shines through on your projects. I appreciate the heads-up on hole alignment with the stand. I’ll keep any eye out for it when I assemble my saw. Happy woodworking to you!
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment. Have fun with the new saw.
@sonofabutcher70032 жыл бұрын
@@AftonWoodworks the saw is awesome! Got er up and running. Went together pretty good…Took some time but no bolt hole align problems.
@pizzawarlord92322 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the vid. Love SawStop but glad to see , finally, someone call them out on gouging their customers and nickel & diming their loyal customers
@DavidMcCabe2 жыл бұрын
Owns Festool and Woodpeckers gear. I recommend, for your health and well being, that you don’t look at 2022 pricing.
@perrypainter2 жыл бұрын
Are you using 3/4” screws? Is the depth of the collar based on screw length or material thickness?
@11211lcb2 жыл бұрын
I have has the Origin for almost 2 years ago and I am very pleased. I have a small business, I design and build custome furniture. The Origin works great for me. But the Glowforge and the like interest me for smaller projects. I want to scale down. Do or can you substitute solid wood for parts like the lamp panels? Do you clean the edges, do they burn with the glowforge? Thank you.
@kevincinnamontoast36692 жыл бұрын
Next vid compare a Fiskars hatchet vs a Cleveland 5 axis cnc machine.
@dadrienharrison98402 жыл бұрын
Love it, Great job bro! Gotta get me a glowforge! Sooo many ideas!
@ronwhittaker63172 жыл бұрын
common sense would tell you that taking yourself out of the equation almost entirely would shoot the shit out of the gratification of the task. how many kids in a Chinese sweatshop did it take to make either one of those contraptions happen? learn to carve. you'll sleep better at night.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron. I am a crabby old man, but you put me to shame.
@onlinecourses76722 жыл бұрын
What was your set up like for this? Did you have the cutting board cut before hand or did them both together?
@mrkrause32 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info…..easy to understand…..to the point. Looking forward to more ideas what the Origin will do.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@geef08132 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an origin. Been seriously considering a glowforge, but can’t decide between that and a flatbed CNC. I really like the idea of a laser.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Ideally all three have a place but that is a lot of $$$$
@geef08132 жыл бұрын
@@AftonWoodworks that’s the truth. If 2022 is as good as 2021, maybe by the end of the year I could swing em both. Fingers crossed.
@Jesusistheonlyway5492 жыл бұрын
I would buy a Shark or a Stepcraft and buy the laser add on until you can afford both. I have a Mira 7 but buying an origin for large pieces. I will be adding a Stepcraft for 3D cutting later.
@geef08132 жыл бұрын
@@Jesusistheonlyway549 I ended up going with a xtool d1 and a xcarve 1000x1000
@Jesusistheonlyway5492 жыл бұрын
@@geef0813 how do you like your xcarve? Now that you own a benchtop CNC, do you still like your Origin?
@anthonyricchiuti41282 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FearsomeWarrior2 жыл бұрын
In the 2000’s my best friends shared a place in Argyle House off Huron Bvld near the crazy looking McNamara Alumni Center. Best memories of going to Burger King a block away and hanging out. They did not wash dishes. Their kitchen was not usable.
@kenblackwood50912 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem. I missed the washer off of the Dewalt shaft. Lost two belts and cracked two pulleys. Pulley was definitely free to move on theshaft without the 1/8" +/- thick spacer washer. Education is not often not free.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Great quote. Agreed!
@fadedprodigy86202 жыл бұрын
These are the type of videos I'm trying to find. I wanted to dive into shaper. But I can now see it's pros and cons.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@anchor20562 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
@pof19912 жыл бұрын
What idiots dislike the video simpletons
@pof19912 жыл бұрын
Looks great
@PeterPasieka2 жыл бұрын
This was obviously not a sponsored video. Thanks for your honesty.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Ha. You are welcome. I have calmed down since. :)
@elijahbachrach65792 жыл бұрын
“Things are changing, just like everything in life... and woodworking is being effected by that.” Yeah, no kidding. Your all becoming machinists and technicians. If operating a CNC is woodworking, then anyone who can download a file and press play is a master craftsman. I’ll stick to hand carving.
@ZachAshcraft2 жыл бұрын
Nah. Still have to properly mill lumber before CNC, understand grain direction, understand property joinery and the engineering of it all. CNC is far from an easy button. Just opens more creative possibilities
@elijahbachrach65792 жыл бұрын
@@ZachAshcraft that’s true! You need to prepare the material and install the appropriate cutter head. It is, in fact, literally harder than pressing a button. My point is that you are a machine operator and not a woodworker when press play, sit back, and watch to make sure nothing goes wrong. You are not making the cuts. You don’t even need to decide what cuts to make and in what order; the software handles that for you.
@AftonWoodworks2 жыл бұрын
That is one reason I like the shaper origin. You are still engaged and need to use your brain. It is a good “in between”.
@elijahbachrach65792 жыл бұрын
@@AftonWoodworks I see what you’re getting at. It would be nice to cut out perfect circles of any diameter with nothing but tape and the Shaper Origen, but for now at least, it’s still cheaper just to make a jig for my router. Anyway, I don’t think it’s brainless. Of course it takes plenty of brain power to design something for a CNC. I just think it’s the muscle memory and motor skills that make a good craftsman. I guess that’s what you’re getting at with it being an “in between”, because it’s still hand operated.
@peterhuggins59983 жыл бұрын
You said you were using 3/4" stock but your thickness is set to 1/2". Just an observation 🙂
@watermain483 жыл бұрын
Wow, it seems like you don't like a whole lot of things about your SawStop. I was surprised.
@SomewhatAbnormal3 жыл бұрын
Tools that can produce similar end products for sure, but the GF is definitely better for those detailed panels. Where the SO shines is in larger applications. I just cut 256, 20mm dog holes (96mm OC), on a 4’x8’ sheet of MDF. I used a 1/4” shank, 1/2” diameter double flute bit in “Helix” mode and I was able to cut all 256 holes accurately in a couple hours. This is very difficult to do using a drill and a PARF system - definitely not doable in 2 hours. Anyway, I like your video. Keep up the good work sir.
@AftonWoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@gitbse3 жыл бұрын
1:1 .... by volume. I hope I'm not the only one that was bugged by this. Nice work otherwise though. Definitely going to use some of this advice
@emr50813 жыл бұрын
Did you make a mistake with the lower placement of holes in a guide jig?
@AftonWoodworks3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I love making jig and prototypes on the glowforge to ensure that the final work piece is 100 percent accurate.
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Well i didn't won't to buy a SawStop contractor because i new the extra cost of things but guess what i did buy it 😅 i could have bought a laguna f3 for much cheaper price where somehow something tells me i should have but be happy with what you have cheers 🍻
toooo much whining vid of no value👎🏻
Wow that is beautiful ❤
Thank you
You seem challenged. Maybe this kind of thing isn’t for you.
Your problem with the bolts connecting saw to base was because you did not follow instructions. It tells you to leave bolts loose in the stand until after the four bolts are in.
Hi great job what grit sandpaper did you use
220 grit he stated
Same setup is more now 5 yrs later...
You buy festoool and whine about getting nickel and dimed by sawstop! When I put my saw together I left the stand bolts a little loose and went together perfectly. I didn’t call sawstop and be a chad about something so insignificant! Dude you are the whiniest person I’ve ever heard.
Nice job! I'm in the process of making one for a client. What type of varnish did you use for the finish, look's amazing.
Its quicker to use a coat of varnish
Its a great saw.
I do colored epoxy inlays frequently. often with multiple colors. One of the things I have learned is that if you seal the pockets with a white pigmented wood sealer. This gives a much more accurate color (similar to the color in the mixing cup). Without the white background, the poured epoxy reflects the color of the wood behind it. This process also prevents color bleed of the epoxy into the grain of the wood.
You should wear gloves glasses and a mask. I heard people can get very sick from resin
The 1:1 ratio is by volume not by weight. The two parts have different densities which means a pound of each will not have the same volume. Be careful when you measure quantities by weight.
Thank you great video. I appreciate your time I will let you know when mine arrives, I just order the 5 hp with large sliding cross cut table
Belt is on inside out
Nope. It's supposed to be that way. The pulleys don't have teeth like a timing belt would. Prolly swapped roller gears or lack of bushing on the Shelix shaft.
@@ClimbHi1950 I just got a DW735 and installed the Byrd Shelix. When removing the chain, I pulled it and the sprockets off as a group ... kept all 3 pieces together (never removed the chain off the sprockets). THEN I set it aside with the screws sitting in the sprockets in their original orientation just so I'd know how they're supposed to be reinstalled. I did ALMOST forget transferring that spacer-washer behind the large belt pulley.
What are you using to route these patterns?
AF = As fuck! You weren't wining, you were pointing out legitimate facts. Except for the location of the controller.
Man, I didn't realize that the nickel and diming was so obnoxiously expensive! This is the same saw a\I'm looking at with all the same extras, and that's fkn expensive. Gonna have to fabricate some stuff!
Nice, but why not use the router and 1/4” end mill to remove the epoxy instead of needless sanding?
There is something wrong with the pricing. It's not acceptable. The technology cost pennies to produce. Modern circuit boards are not expensive, and there are no rare metals or hard to produce parts on a Saw Stop saw. The fact that they are almost 3 times more expensive than a comparable saw without the $20 worth of electronics, is unacceptable. The worst part is that the patent laws prevent any other company from creating their own version of blade stop technology. Bosch perfected a gas cartridge system that snapped the blade down quickly, and due to Saw Stop's lawyers (presumably) Bosch had to stop building their technology. In what world is it ok to prevent other companies from creating their own life saving technology? Stopping a blade is not some small thing, it's a matter of life or death. And no patent should be capable of blocking safety features on any piece of equipment, under any circumstances. This is a case where the government needs to do their job, and they need to actually set an expiration date for the Saw Stop patents due to National Interest. The government has apparently taken away at least 5,000 patents from their respective owners when the patent deals with something that has profound implications for day to day life, so there is already a well established precedent. But in this case, they need to make the patents open source, and prevent any company from holding a monopoly over "machinery safety features." This is a case where there is actually a good reason for the government to take the patent away, because Saw Stop is actively preventing other companies from offering an affordable product. Saw Stop saws are not affordable for the general public. Table saws are the single most dangerous piece of equipment ever created by man, and it it should be legal mandate that all new table saws must include some form of an electronic "flesh sensing technology." If someone wants a saw without the technology, they can flip a switch and shut it off. But it should be legally required to be included on all new table saws. Saw Stop is going about this the wrong way, and unfortunately karma is going to get them in the end. Karma is a real thing, we've seen it with GM and Chrysler, and many other companies. Viciously attacking other competitors who make a similar but sufficiently different technology that helps prevent injuries (Bosch) is not good business, it's just malicious. Allowing all the companies to have their own version of the technology would drastically reduce the cost, without putting anyone out of business.
Very nice job. Here a question that I haven't found an answer to. Could you have applied a stain to the box after you sanded the Epoxy flat and then apply a finish. I am making a Maple Table that I want a Black Epoxy Compass Rose ,CNC into, but I want the surrounding wood stained to match the interior of a RV Van. What do you think?
You could, but I think a stain would change the appearance of the epoxy even so lightly unless you wipe the stain off that portion. That was my concern on the recent boat table I built. See video on my channel.
Beautiful work. Quick question… was the raised outer rim glued on as a separate piece after you used Shaper to engrave the lettering?
Exactly right. Once glued, flush cut the outside edges and did the corners.
Great verse...Are you in Afton MN?
Yes I am
Thanks for sharing!
That looks really good
Thanks for the initial review and follow up! I recently ordered one of these saws and it’s good to know it has performed well for you. Too bad you got some off the negative comments that you did but I guess it goes with the territory. Personally I think some things are better left unsaid. What I picked up on you in your first video was that you are a person that is very attentive to detail. I imagine that’s a quality that shines through on your projects. I appreciate the heads-up on hole alignment with the stand. I’ll keep any eye out for it when I assemble my saw. Happy woodworking to you!
Thanks for the nice comment. Have fun with the new saw.
@@AftonWoodworks the saw is awesome! Got er up and running. Went together pretty good…Took some time but no bolt hole align problems.
Enjoyed the vid. Love SawStop but glad to see , finally, someone call them out on gouging their customers and nickel & diming their loyal customers
Owns Festool and Woodpeckers gear. I recommend, for your health and well being, that you don’t look at 2022 pricing.
Are you using 3/4” screws? Is the depth of the collar based on screw length or material thickness?
I have has the Origin for almost 2 years ago and I am very pleased. I have a small business, I design and build custome furniture. The Origin works great for me. But the Glowforge and the like interest me for smaller projects. I want to scale down. Do or can you substitute solid wood for parts like the lamp panels? Do you clean the edges, do they burn with the glowforge? Thank you.
Next vid compare a Fiskars hatchet vs a Cleveland 5 axis cnc machine.
Love it, Great job bro! Gotta get me a glowforge! Sooo many ideas!
common sense would tell you that taking yourself out of the equation almost entirely would shoot the shit out of the gratification of the task. how many kids in a Chinese sweatshop did it take to make either one of those contraptions happen? learn to carve. you'll sleep better at night.
Hey Ron. I am a crabby old man, but you put me to shame.
What was your set up like for this? Did you have the cutting board cut before hand or did them both together?
Thanks for the info…..easy to understand…..to the point. Looking forward to more ideas what the Origin will do.
Thanks for the feedback
I’ve got an origin. Been seriously considering a glowforge, but can’t decide between that and a flatbed CNC. I really like the idea of a laser.
Ideally all three have a place but that is a lot of $$$$
@@AftonWoodworks that’s the truth. If 2022 is as good as 2021, maybe by the end of the year I could swing em both. Fingers crossed.
I would buy a Shark or a Stepcraft and buy the laser add on until you can afford both. I have a Mira 7 but buying an origin for large pieces. I will be adding a Stepcraft for 3D cutting later.
@@Jesusistheonlyway549 I ended up going with a xtool d1 and a xcarve 1000x1000
@@geef0813 how do you like your xcarve? Now that you own a benchtop CNC, do you still like your Origin?
Outstanding work.
Thanks!
In the 2000’s my best friends shared a place in Argyle House off Huron Bvld near the crazy looking McNamara Alumni Center. Best memories of going to Burger King a block away and hanging out. They did not wash dishes. Their kitchen was not usable.
I had the same problem. I missed the washer off of the Dewalt shaft. Lost two belts and cracked two pulleys. Pulley was definitely free to move on theshaft without the 1/8" +/- thick spacer washer. Education is not often not free.
Great quote. Agreed!
These are the type of videos I'm trying to find. I wanted to dive into shaper. But I can now see it's pros and cons.
Thank you!
Beautiful. Nicely done. Thanks for sharing.
What idiots dislike the video simpletons
Looks great
This was obviously not a sponsored video. Thanks for your honesty.
Ha. You are welcome. I have calmed down since. :)
“Things are changing, just like everything in life... and woodworking is being effected by that.” Yeah, no kidding. Your all becoming machinists and technicians. If operating a CNC is woodworking, then anyone who can download a file and press play is a master craftsman. I’ll stick to hand carving.
Nah. Still have to properly mill lumber before CNC, understand grain direction, understand property joinery and the engineering of it all. CNC is far from an easy button. Just opens more creative possibilities
@@ZachAshcraft that’s true! You need to prepare the material and install the appropriate cutter head. It is, in fact, literally harder than pressing a button. My point is that you are a machine operator and not a woodworker when press play, sit back, and watch to make sure nothing goes wrong. You are not making the cuts. You don’t even need to decide what cuts to make and in what order; the software handles that for you.
That is one reason I like the shaper origin. You are still engaged and need to use your brain. It is a good “in between”.
@@AftonWoodworks I see what you’re getting at. It would be nice to cut out perfect circles of any diameter with nothing but tape and the Shaper Origen, but for now at least, it’s still cheaper just to make a jig for my router. Anyway, I don’t think it’s brainless. Of course it takes plenty of brain power to design something for a CNC. I just think it’s the muscle memory and motor skills that make a good craftsman. I guess that’s what you’re getting at with it being an “in between”, because it’s still hand operated.
You said you were using 3/4" stock but your thickness is set to 1/2". Just an observation 🙂
Wow, it seems like you don't like a whole lot of things about your SawStop. I was surprised.
Tools that can produce similar end products for sure, but the GF is definitely better for those detailed panels. Where the SO shines is in larger applications. I just cut 256, 20mm dog holes (96mm OC), on a 4’x8’ sheet of MDF. I used a 1/4” shank, 1/2” diameter double flute bit in “Helix” mode and I was able to cut all 256 holes accurately in a couple hours. This is very difficult to do using a drill and a PARF system - definitely not doable in 2 hours. Anyway, I like your video. Keep up the good work sir.
Thanks for the comment!
1:1 .... by volume. I hope I'm not the only one that was bugged by this. Nice work otherwise though. Definitely going to use some of this advice
Did you make a mistake with the lower placement of holes in a guide jig?
Indeed. I love making jig and prototypes on the glowforge to ensure that the final work piece is 100 percent accurate.
That explains the burn marks!