I've been looking to move away from a Canon EOS M with ML firmware and was looking into the Sony ZV-E1 but it's wayyy too expensive, especially with full-frame lenses. I feel like the CinePi and other projects like it will open up a whole new world of open source cameras and may disrupt the monopoly that Sony, Canon, RED and others have on the camera market. Also, since this is all open-source and not sold under a brand, I feel like there might be a way to legally record compressed RAW internally (which RED has a patent on). Awesome work, I mean it. How would AF work on this? Maybe a couple GPIO pins could control the focus ring motor? Also I just read an article about the FourThirdsEye IMX294 module/sensor. How does it compare to the IMX585 that you're using?
@lilianafortty259020 күн бұрын
Where I can find the manual to assembly the cam?
@BlankedEye20 күн бұрын
wow dynamic range looks amazing!
@rameshoflondon22 күн бұрын
Impressive ! Its always exciting when seeing new products developing esp. with a community . Q: the camera module, was this a special request or is it readily available retail/online ?
@zoetmoments5625Ай бұрын
is there a how to building this and is what lens mount would you recommend for build MFT. EF E-mount. could you create a TUT video for this please EXTREMELY & HIGHLY INTRESTED. am in wedding film making.
@shueibdahirАй бұрын
What in the world? The image is phenomenal!!
@MassimilianoPrelliАй бұрын
Is the bit depth of the resulting image 16bits or is it a 12bit image in a 16bit container?
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
The resulting image is 16bit in ClearHDR mode.
@RichShumakerАй бұрын
Wow just Wow. This is exactly what I was wanting to see happen with the RasPi as a Camera System.. Truly Amazing!!! If you know, how high can a camera go on the HDMI Output of the Pi for Live work? Can the Camera to Pi to Live HDMI out go above the old RaspiVid 8 bit 1080p30fps? I want to use it for Live work, obviously, heheh, currently I use a RasPi HQ HDMI out to PC Capture.(4k 10 bit is the highest my capture card goes but I am capped at 1080p30 8bit) If the HDMI out could go to 4k 10bit or higher I could see using something like the Atomos or other Recorders.
@KirmesRuf6Ай бұрын
Wow... More than fantastic so far! Would love to see some internal raw similar to redcode raw (Dsmc2 had so many options and ratios!). That combined with a full frame sensor would be spectacular! Or apsc with a speedbooster
@babbagebrassworks4278Ай бұрын
I wondered why it was not impressing me, er was watching in yt small window at 360, whoops. Kind of crazy this can be done with off the shelf Pi5 and Image sensor. Perhaps powering via coreless drill batteries?
@TimmyaguilarАй бұрын
Let’s gooooo! Excited for this project!
@klyesam4006Ай бұрын
Can you try some low light stuff? it looks like the sensor is right for it.
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
Absolutely, it can perform in those situations. It's noisy when you push the ISO to extreme, but that's the case for all sensors; but when you shoot RAW you must do denoise in post to make it fair, cause most camera's will do the same internally. We will have a monochrome version to test with soon, that should have even greater sensitivity and perhaps we will do a demo for that one.
@jacobdavidcunningham1440Ай бұрын
is the speedbooster to reduce/undo the crop, not sure what the crop is on the IMX585 vs. HQ cam (5.5) this sensor is really $250? damn or am I looking at the wrong one 3:49 this part reminded me of the song six underground ha
@shueibdahirАй бұрын
These sensors are quite small so yeah
@BrianVoelkerАй бұрын
I can't wait to build one! Are we thinking audio too, maybe digital in?
@thehydrobladeАй бұрын
Seems like you are having a fun weekend shooting. This might be your best footage yet!!!
@Marma92Ай бұрын
More and more impressive! Thank you so much!
@soejrd24978Ай бұрын
Where exactly is this? Looks lovely
@dakshwadekarАй бұрын
How long would it take to complete the entire camera without serious bugs?
@thehydrobladeАй бұрын
Is the addition of audio next?
@T---TАй бұрын
Love it, can't wait to build my own!
@jomtheoneАй бұрын
Ima noob can you tell me everything I need to get this
@Pat-NewmanАй бұрын
Wow this is pretty amazing. Is it possible to shoot in H.265 or something? Kind of curious what sort of fps you'd be able to get in 10 bit. Would be really cool to be able to use an apsc sensor in this. So much potential. You've done really impressive work with this.
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
RAW in this case is probably the most ideal format as the Raspberry Pi 5 has no hardware encoders built in and the processor is not capable enough to do H265 in real-time at any meaningful resolutions. So contrary to popular belief that RAW is very computationally expensive or hard thing to do in camera, in many ways it is much easier and a simply much better solution in the end. ( other than the amount of storage space it occupies. )
@Pat-NewmanАй бұрын
@@cinepicamera Oh that's really interesting. I didn't realise that.
@unfa00Ай бұрын
Please fix 0:26 and reupload!
@krassebewegtbilderАй бұрын
Amazing footage. Do you have any indoor, low light situation shots?
@nicolaeionescu4646Ай бұрын
Much how things changed when people started building their own computers this is going to change the camera market. Custom camera bodies, different sensors, cooling fans, will become all the rage. Cine Pi is leading the charge.
@soejrd24978Ай бұрын
I👏want👏to👏build👏one
@RichShumakerАй бұрын
How different is the Starvis 2 over the Standard Pi HQ?
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
Larger 4K 16-bit Dual Gain Output Sensor, it is quite significant as far as it's application for cinematography. Look up IMX585 vs IMX477
@RichShumakerАй бұрын
@@cinepicamera thank you I definitely will those are crazy specs. Can CinePi use the full spec of the sensor?
@LutzTeichmann5 күн бұрын
@@cinepicamera i hope raspberry will release a camera module with that IMX585
@baths4carsraspberrypicomputerАй бұрын
looks soooo good
@BrianVoelkerАй бұрын
I cant wait to build one!
@OnlyEricBАй бұрын
Same! 😁
@nbshftrАй бұрын
eta on a video about the camera itself?
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
Yes, might do a small showcase / demo of the prototype camera; however keyword there is "prototype"... it is not reflective of a final design that is ready for wide spread use. CinePI does not ( and for the foreseeable future will not manufacture hardware). We are focused on the providing the open source software to make cinema camera functionality possible. I really want to emphasize with our project the point is not to make and sell camera's like Sony, Panasonic, Blackmagic, etc...that defeats the purpose and those companies all have way more resource's to do a better job. The idea is to make more accessible the tools and knowledge that goes into the development of cinema cameras and to empower users to make their own.
@nbshftrАй бұрын
@@cinepicamera dont get me wrong, i understand the point of cinepi, i just wanted to know what this newer version looks like
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
@@nbshftr Yea, we don't mean to keep the camera secret or under wraps; just don't want to convey that we produce the camera as a product and showcase it as such.
@nbshftrАй бұрын
@@cinepicamera when the camera enters a less prototype-y phase, will there be a video breaking down the components / how to build one?
@OnlyEricBАй бұрын
@@nbshftrMy exact question. @cinepicamera will we see the breakdown and future knowledge how to videos?
@VietinghoffAlexАй бұрын
Looks so good!! So what this sensor made by the community?
@schoolpost2009Ай бұрын
It is a Sony sensor ( not a custom sensor ), packaged onto a custom PCB module developed by a member of the community that makes it compatible with a Raspberry Pi 5.
@VietinghoffAlexАй бұрын
@@schoolpost2009 ohhh, super cool!
@SereneBobcatАй бұрын
The dynamic range of that Starvis sensor is kind of crazy.
@unuzualvizualАй бұрын
i can't explain why but the 'image texture' made me remember the Digital Bolex D16. looking great! :)
@burner887Ай бұрын
This is great. I love this project, keep it up!
@OnlyEricBАй бұрын
Newbie here: Can someone direct me on how to build this step by step, please? 🙏 Thank you
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
It'll be a process at the moment to build a camera similar to the one used to record this footage shown here. That is why the camera is not shown as it is still largely a "prototype" The sensor modules are small batch made by some community members, and the software is still being worked on. But in due time, it should become more wide spread and more friendly to newcomers.
@JohnCena-xy5kbАй бұрын
U guys are back 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@catdaddycoinsАй бұрын
this is insane. BULLISH
@dakshwadekarАй бұрын
Cool.
@Uncle-Quinns-GarageАй бұрын
I might need some help on the tab welding of the batteries. I'm a first timer. I'm good on everything else though.
@BrianVoelkerАй бұрын
I cannot wait to build one. I have my custom 3D printer ready to go!
@thehydrobladeАй бұрын
I can't wait to start building mine!
@nbshftrАй бұрын
holy shit
@MassimilianoPrelliАй бұрын
It's so much better than I've ever hoped it to be. I've been following developments on the project ever since the old golf video was mentioned in an article (probably even before the discord was created, let alone have I joined it) while searching for a truly modular camera. I have some ideas about that too. I love how it can be a 16bit BMPCC OG (I still use it and it produces great images, but it's such a fragile camera I had to basically fix and rebuild). I can't wait to make one myself in the future!
@theawesomegamer_Ай бұрын
Can't wait! I've been wanting to build one for a while.
@nicemirkoАй бұрын
Holy shettttttt, this is dope. I'm super excited!!!
@AltcineАй бұрын
Excellent work man. Really excited by this 👏🏾👏🏾
@Microfiom35Ай бұрын
wow that's awesome super clean image and smooth We like to see a footage in low light
@CoscarelliFanАй бұрын
Just recently got into Raspberry Pi. I own two BMPCC OG's. This looks AMAZING.
@patrickdonnelly5223Ай бұрын
Excellent idea! Blacks are lacking a little? Too much ETTR?
@cinepicameraАй бұрын
Dialing in the color science and optimizing the dynamic range on the sensor is still very much a process we are dialing in. There are two modes for the sensor, one is 12-bit and the other is a 16-bit ClearHDR as Sony calls it, which is Dual Gain Output ( like Arri sensors / fairchild sensors used in Blackmagic ) it's this mode that has quite a bit of configurability and some further tuning. Most of the footage shown in this video is from the standard 12-bit mode.
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I've been looking to move away from a Canon EOS M with ML firmware and was looking into the Sony ZV-E1 but it's wayyy too expensive, especially with full-frame lenses. I feel like the CinePi and other projects like it will open up a whole new world of open source cameras and may disrupt the monopoly that Sony, Canon, RED and others have on the camera market. Also, since this is all open-source and not sold under a brand, I feel like there might be a way to legally record compressed RAW internally (which RED has a patent on). Awesome work, I mean it. How would AF work on this? Maybe a couple GPIO pins could control the focus ring motor? Also I just read an article about the FourThirdsEye IMX294 module/sensor. How does it compare to the IMX585 that you're using?
Where I can find the manual to assembly the cam?
wow dynamic range looks amazing!
Impressive ! Its always exciting when seeing new products developing esp. with a community . Q: the camera module, was this a special request or is it readily available retail/online ?
is there a how to building this and is what lens mount would you recommend for build MFT. EF E-mount. could you create a TUT video for this please EXTREMELY & HIGHLY INTRESTED. am in wedding film making.
What in the world? The image is phenomenal!!
Is the bit depth of the resulting image 16bits or is it a 12bit image in a 16bit container?
The resulting image is 16bit in ClearHDR mode.
Wow just Wow. This is exactly what I was wanting to see happen with the RasPi as a Camera System.. Truly Amazing!!! If you know, how high can a camera go on the HDMI Output of the Pi for Live work? Can the Camera to Pi to Live HDMI out go above the old RaspiVid 8 bit 1080p30fps? I want to use it for Live work, obviously, heheh, currently I use a RasPi HQ HDMI out to PC Capture.(4k 10 bit is the highest my capture card goes but I am capped at 1080p30 8bit) If the HDMI out could go to 4k 10bit or higher I could see using something like the Atomos or other Recorders.
Wow... More than fantastic so far! Would love to see some internal raw similar to redcode raw (Dsmc2 had so many options and ratios!). That combined with a full frame sensor would be spectacular! Or apsc with a speedbooster
I wondered why it was not impressing me, er was watching in yt small window at 360, whoops. Kind of crazy this can be done with off the shelf Pi5 and Image sensor. Perhaps powering via coreless drill batteries?
Let’s gooooo! Excited for this project!
Can you try some low light stuff? it looks like the sensor is right for it.
Absolutely, it can perform in those situations. It's noisy when you push the ISO to extreme, but that's the case for all sensors; but when you shoot RAW you must do denoise in post to make it fair, cause most camera's will do the same internally. We will have a monochrome version to test with soon, that should have even greater sensitivity and perhaps we will do a demo for that one.
is the speedbooster to reduce/undo the crop, not sure what the crop is on the IMX585 vs. HQ cam (5.5) this sensor is really $250? damn or am I looking at the wrong one 3:49 this part reminded me of the song six underground ha
These sensors are quite small so yeah
I can't wait to build one! Are we thinking audio too, maybe digital in?
Seems like you are having a fun weekend shooting. This might be your best footage yet!!!
More and more impressive! Thank you so much!
Where exactly is this? Looks lovely
How long would it take to complete the entire camera without serious bugs?
Is the addition of audio next?
Love it, can't wait to build my own!
Ima noob can you tell me everything I need to get this
Wow this is pretty amazing. Is it possible to shoot in H.265 or something? Kind of curious what sort of fps you'd be able to get in 10 bit. Would be really cool to be able to use an apsc sensor in this. So much potential. You've done really impressive work with this.
RAW in this case is probably the most ideal format as the Raspberry Pi 5 has no hardware encoders built in and the processor is not capable enough to do H265 in real-time at any meaningful resolutions. So contrary to popular belief that RAW is very computationally expensive or hard thing to do in camera, in many ways it is much easier and a simply much better solution in the end. ( other than the amount of storage space it occupies. )
@@cinepicamera Oh that's really interesting. I didn't realise that.
Please fix 0:26 and reupload!
Amazing footage. Do you have any indoor, low light situation shots?
Much how things changed when people started building their own computers this is going to change the camera market. Custom camera bodies, different sensors, cooling fans, will become all the rage. Cine Pi is leading the charge.
I👏want👏to👏build👏one
How different is the Starvis 2 over the Standard Pi HQ?
Larger 4K 16-bit Dual Gain Output Sensor, it is quite significant as far as it's application for cinematography. Look up IMX585 vs IMX477
@@cinepicamera thank you I definitely will those are crazy specs. Can CinePi use the full spec of the sensor?
@@cinepicamera i hope raspberry will release a camera module with that IMX585
looks soooo good
I cant wait to build one!
Same! 😁
eta on a video about the camera itself?
Yes, might do a small showcase / demo of the prototype camera; however keyword there is "prototype"... it is not reflective of a final design that is ready for wide spread use. CinePI does not ( and for the foreseeable future will not manufacture hardware). We are focused on the providing the open source software to make cinema camera functionality possible. I really want to emphasize with our project the point is not to make and sell camera's like Sony, Panasonic, Blackmagic, etc...that defeats the purpose and those companies all have way more resource's to do a better job. The idea is to make more accessible the tools and knowledge that goes into the development of cinema cameras and to empower users to make their own.
@@cinepicamera dont get me wrong, i understand the point of cinepi, i just wanted to know what this newer version looks like
@@nbshftr Yea, we don't mean to keep the camera secret or under wraps; just don't want to convey that we produce the camera as a product and showcase it as such.
@@cinepicamera when the camera enters a less prototype-y phase, will there be a video breaking down the components / how to build one?
@@nbshftrMy exact question. @cinepicamera will we see the breakdown and future knowledge how to videos?
Looks so good!! So what this sensor made by the community?
It is a Sony sensor ( not a custom sensor ), packaged onto a custom PCB module developed by a member of the community that makes it compatible with a Raspberry Pi 5.
@@schoolpost2009 ohhh, super cool!
The dynamic range of that Starvis sensor is kind of crazy.
i can't explain why but the 'image texture' made me remember the Digital Bolex D16. looking great! :)
This is great. I love this project, keep it up!
Newbie here: Can someone direct me on how to build this step by step, please? 🙏 Thank you
It'll be a process at the moment to build a camera similar to the one used to record this footage shown here. That is why the camera is not shown as it is still largely a "prototype" The sensor modules are small batch made by some community members, and the software is still being worked on. But in due time, it should become more wide spread and more friendly to newcomers.
U guys are back 😢😢😢😢😢😢
this is insane. BULLISH
Cool.
I might need some help on the tab welding of the batteries. I'm a first timer. I'm good on everything else though.
I cannot wait to build one. I have my custom 3D printer ready to go!
I can't wait to start building mine!
holy shit
It's so much better than I've ever hoped it to be. I've been following developments on the project ever since the old golf video was mentioned in an article (probably even before the discord was created, let alone have I joined it) while searching for a truly modular camera. I have some ideas about that too. I love how it can be a 16bit BMPCC OG (I still use it and it produces great images, but it's such a fragile camera I had to basically fix and rebuild). I can't wait to make one myself in the future!
Can't wait! I've been wanting to build one for a while.
Holy shettttttt, this is dope. I'm super excited!!!
Excellent work man. Really excited by this 👏🏾👏🏾
wow that's awesome super clean image and smooth We like to see a footage in low light
Just recently got into Raspberry Pi. I own two BMPCC OG's. This looks AMAZING.
Excellent idea! Blacks are lacking a little? Too much ETTR?
Dialing in the color science and optimizing the dynamic range on the sensor is still very much a process we are dialing in. There are two modes for the sensor, one is 12-bit and the other is a 16-bit ClearHDR as Sony calls it, which is Dual Gain Output ( like Arri sensors / fairchild sensors used in Blackmagic ) it's this mode that has quite a bit of configurability and some further tuning. Most of the footage shown in this video is from the standard 12-bit mode.