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I'm definitely copying some ideas from here. My kitchen / freezer setup is very different!!
Freezier with Thermo Regulator is easier and less demanding on wires.
Yeah if you don't have conductive wires this is fair enough, but the Thermo Regulator does use more power overall due to the lower efficiency of the building / heat capacity of gases.
@@erisia_gaming that is true and all, but it is neglectable in this case. you just don't have abundance of refined metals at a stage of a game where you need and can make freezier.
On 3, I choose not to use infinite storage except for solids, and I suspect that if pressure was implemented as you describe people would just find ways to move their storages to the neutronium borders. For me, I really don't want to use inifinite storage at all, but with solids, the alternative is literally hundreds of bins. I'd like it if there was a larger storage bin that holds much more mass, and if I was given that I would likely use those instead of dispensers dropping on one tile. Or a way of making 'packed' solids - build tiles that are packed versions of solids that contain something like 10 or 20t of material, make it the tier 4 construction skilll. They wouldn't count as natural tiles so you couldn't grow anything on them. Let robo-miners drill them when you need access to the actual material. I guess you;d need to somehow make them not a replacement for bunker doors though.
At the moment, I am relying on rotten food for extra dirt. I haven't set up my arbor tree farm yet even with the army of pips slowly multiplying in my base.
Thank you for all your great videos! I use a cooled diagonally accessible tile as main freeze storage for both cooking ingredients and the finished food. That way i can have one autosweeper load the grill/oven, a second autosweeper pick up and put back produced food to cooled tile and then a third repeatedly autosweep a few kg of food to a designated fridge in the mess hall. It is however a bit tricky to set up without the sweepers getting caught in an infinite storage loop but you can store both ingredients and food that way without any labor (except cooking of course).
Thank you! Yes that's generally a very good idea. I don't tend to do it as I like all of my builds to be accessible without deconstruction as much as possible, but generally a very useful concept.
Nectar is probably the best material they added in the frosty planet pack. It's basically super water - and you can even make plastic with it. Mercury could have been amazing if Klei made it capable of forming amalgams with refined metals (like in real life) but currently all it seems to do is exist as an annoyance.
It can also feed the grubgrubs even without a geyser.
This is an excellent point I hadn't even considered!
The issue with the ice maker is the dupe labor really. You need a dupe to fill it with water and another to empty it afterward. It's really not something you want your dupes doing. If you can do otherwise.
Might try this one on another volcano. My current one is in a too tight space. The old one is still working well for me.
A bit late to the party but Why no oxygen masks?
We did some masks a little bit later, but in the end it was the Popped Eardrums that was doing us in rather than the lack of Oxygen. The stress stopped the base from running effectively and then people starting suffocating as a result of that.
I'm a bit curious about the mutating plants, is there a standard "go to" for the prefered mutation?
What I've seen people do is use Radiation Lamps with Duplicant Motion Sensors so that the plants are only irradiated when they are harvested and the seeds are produced, as that is what determines mutation. It's just a manner of doing it once until you get the mutation you want and then duplicating that seed somehow. There's a pretty good screenshot on my Discord of such a setup.
@@erisia_gaming that's the question actually, is there a mutation to rule them all or it really depends on the type of plant? didn't explore it much but wanted to give it a go on that run. Got a lazy set-up with one plant surrounded by weezworth and i let it roll
I would like to tell you that it is a breath of fresh air that you chose not to use the popular designs. I hear SPOM and I throw up in my mouth. lol
Yeah I've done my own SPOM design on most of my runs and it's nice to try something else. And unlike the Oxyferns we can actually scale this up some it is viable.
I realize it hadn't been introduced at the time, but I just want to say nowadays Mushroom Quiches would be S tier IMHO. It's a bit complicated to setup because it has several parts to it, but once it's setup it's incredibly good. It's super resource efficient, it has the max moral bonus, it comes with the seafood buff and it has the highest calory/weight ratio in the game which makes it perfect to feed the Tree God thingy. Plus, the Frosty Planet DLC buffed anything made from omelettes because floxes are good for omelettes and also alveo veras provide seed which are great for pacus, themselves amazing for omelettes.
Mandatory video like
Could use ethanol to make a liquid lock then s dig a vacum seal around the base.
Mandatory video like even though I’ve never heard of this game 😊
I misunderstood the requirement at the beginning. I thought it meant that you would lose the game if your chips went over the amount of money you had, not that they would be capped at that amount.
Mr sweepy is the solution to your oxylite off gas problem
This is an excellent point! I always forget to use this guy.
...WTH,DUDE.....WHY PEPPER BREAD ISNT S TIER BECAUSE *_IT IS ONLY 2 INGREDIENT 1 ACTION +5 QUALITY MEAL_* .......SO YOU JUST FARM 2 OF ....AND GOOD TO GO ...ABOUT PEPPER FARMING.....WELL,GOOD POINT TO MAKE EXCESS OF PH2O,HEHE.....AND KINDA IT'S ABOUT POSSIBLE TO PLANT WILD EXUBERANT.....BUT ABOUT........STILL.....DUPLICATING LOTS OF WORTS AS WELL....BUT WORTH THE EFFORT,HEHE ........FRIED MUSHROOM IS SOLID A TIER BECAUSE *_IT IS POSSIBLE TO INFINITELY FARM THESE WITH FLOWER POT EXPLOIT_* ..... ....AND.....KINDA....MIXED BERRY PIE...IS.....OK,A TIER AS WELL BECAUSE FLOWER POT EXPLOIT DOES WONDERS WITH GRUBFRUITS AS WELL, AND ONLY DISADVANTAGE OVER PEPPER BREAD ACTUALLY IS..... *_GRISTLE BERRIES_* ..........HMMPH OKAY WILL FINISH AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S KINDA ABOUT ULTIMATE SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE TIER LIST.......OF ALL STUFF .....AND THAT'S NOT IN PLANS ...OK...STILL BIT MORE...ALL OF EGG INVOLVED STUFF IS STRAIGHT TO C OR D SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S TOO GIMMICKY TO MAKE A WORKING EGG FARM AND LOTS OF PPL ACTUALLY GETTING STUMBLED BY IT..... ...AHHH OKAY...FROST BURGER IS ULTIMATELY D TIER BECAUSE *_HOW MANY ACTIONS DO U HAVE TO DO TO MAKE ONE??_* .....3.......ACTIONS.......FOR -3 ATHLETICS .........YUP MAYBE -15%STRESS IS NICE,BUT STILL.....ATHLETICS.......AND YOU COULDVE MAKE 3 AS MUCH PEPPER BREAD..........
Super chilling dozens of Sublimation stations makes for extremely easy liquid oxygen production. Once Polluted Oxygen gets too cold (or too hot) it changes to just oxygen. No fancy setups for hydrogen either, just get it too cold, and pump it out where you need it.
That's a lot of Co2!!
Well that escalated quickly 😂
А я думал что это я играю как долбо*б )
Algae Terraiums can be fully submerged in water and work. They'll pull water from the surroundings too. If you're having trouble putting a light source, such as at the bottom of the water asteroid, then use glass. They are not limited by overpressure or submerging issues, and do not require direct water. With the current carved lumen quartz, they don't even require power. Technically shinebugs can work too. Its a niche usecase, as usually you are more limited by water-- but it is a usecase. The polluted oxygen offgas has its uses too, but when fully submerged, this isn't an issue. When you're not limited by water, algae terraiums become very interesting.
smog slugs are a free vacum tool too but have to be patient
lol, you weirdo. Made my day <3
Early game i like a sanishel in my water tank to filter the poison and it's quite effective, don't have to ranch it, just toss one in the pool and let it do it's job, way easier to set up then a chlorine chamber
total chaotic at such cycle, it would pay off if you can handle it well tho
I like my smooth hatches early game to avoid making a ruck crusher but it's only temporary for sure
...ABOUT NIOBIUM....VOLCANO...AS IT REQUIRES VERY GIMMICKY SETUP LIKE *_DESTROYING IT'S BASE WITH RADBOLTS_* ........IT'S ALSO A *_F_* TIER DUE TO IT'S BETTER TO GEO TUNE TUNGSTEN ONES .......YEAH I KNOW ABOUT *_AUTO SWEEPER+PITCHER PUMP+BOTTLE EMPTIER WORK WITH MOLTEN METALS_* ,BUT STILL HOW IT'S WORKING IS KINDA NOT OK FOR ME SO I'D RATHER PUMP IN ALL THAT AMOUNT OF NUCLEAR WASTE NEEDED TO DO EVERUTHING AS I PREFER...HEHE...... ...SOOO.....F TIER.....AND TAMING THE THING US ONLY FOR SELF PROGRESS
..ABYSSALITE GEOTUNING INSTEAD OF USING THIS FOR PRICELESS *_INSULATION_* ?? .......YUP,ALL THESE ARE *_E_* TIER..... ....AND STUPD ME FOR WASTING AROUND 25t OF THIS FOR SOME NATURAL GAS GEYSER.....THANKFULLY REALIZED MY MISTAKE SOON ENOUGH ......
With regard to oakshell, an underused strategy is to use them as breeders for other variants. An oakshell in water will tend to lay sanishell. An oakshell in a dry ranch will tend to lay pokeshells. Yet, the critter will still shed their 100 kg of lumber per cycle. Since you are losing out the lumber from their offspring, they will be less efficient on a pdirt to sand basis: they end up at around 50% over their lifetime like other morphs. However, if you were gonna ranch pokeshells or sanishells anyway, it's almost certainly better to use oakshells as breeders for that juicy 50 kg of ethanol per cycle. Essentially, oakshells raised for oakshells will consume about 13 kg of pdirt and give 17.5 kg of sand, 32kg of water each cycle and 108 watts of net power. Oakshells raised in water or air will give cost at most 37 kg of pdirt per cycle and produce 17.5 kg of sand, 18.75 kg of pwater each cycle and 70 watts, plus an egg every 6 cycles. A pokeshell or a sanishell raised in their own element will cost 70 kg of pdirt for 35 kg of sand and an egg every 6 cycle, but no water and no power.
Very nice
i mean yeah, it's stronger than before, but before it was basically useless. back in the days i tried chilling my oxygen with them and spend so much time tweaking it until it was ok to keep the oxygen and part of my base at normal temperature, and so much dupe time, that it would have been better to just push through and get a better heat deletion method. so who knows, maybe they will keep it that way, or tweak it slightly.
Newton: you can t destroy energy Ice maker: Shut up Newton!!!! 😂😂😂
Im pretty disappointed with the new contents they are adding. It feels like many of it is not thought-through and rushed, without balance in mind. Are they not testing their stuff when they release it? Shish...
Just wondering, but do refrigerators also delete heat?
I think it depends on what you have inside, but the heat generation can be lower than the amount the contents inside are cooled. I've seen this forum post but it's quite old: forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/
Love your planted tanks!
Me too!
could this make for a practical infinite refrigerator cooling solution?
Yes, but you would need to use it to cool down a Thermo Aquatuner or Regulator, as the Water needed for the Ice Maker to run continuously won't melt below 3° C. But you could use this set up to cool a Thermo Aquatuner instead of using a Steam Turbine if you want. This would be best combined with the new Nectar as it's the highest capacity coolant until Super Coolant now.
@@erisia_gaming i want to avoid having to afford the extra power requirement for an aquatuner or regulator, though. what about using the freshly frozen ice for the infinite refrigerator first and then use it to cool other stuff? (which doesnt need to go below -18c)
You could make the -20° C Ice and then transport it very carefully to some room where it runs around metal tiles, but I think the temperature would be too close to the -18° C threshold for "Deep Freeze" for such a setup to be practical. Thermo Aquatuner for a freezer is now twice as power efficient as before if Nectar is used.
It makes less and less sense from an IRL pov... But fun to know. I would combine it with an aquatuner and a cooling loop going away I think.
i wish the devs would add an ethanol gas turbine (a small turbine that doesn't produce much power, but doesn't need any plastic), or give the steam turbine the ability to accept ethanol gas, maybe at 80% power usage. this way ethanol could be used properly as a cooling solution.
I think there was a mod that actually adds Ethanol Steam Turbines (and others)... but I can't find it.
5 geotuning salt water geyser give more net salt even using bleach stone hopper?
Found your content from DSP and you’ve gotten me into ONI. Thanks heaps! Also what was your PHD topic?
"Laboratory-numerical investigation of scale effects in granular slides" involved pouring sand down ramps and supercomputer simulations. :D
@@erisia_gaming hopefully your work helps less dupes become entombed in the future! :p
Sages are easily the best hatch, easier to keep, eat tons of otherwise near eternal polluted dirt from the ethanol distillers, you just have to hold some for pokeshells and some for composters
I think this should keep being this way, they now have plenty of cool uses outside of cooling especially and even with good heat deletion you need tons of dupe labor, something youll be praying god and automating the hell out of base to get more of. "because of lag too".
Yeah I can't see any way Klei leaves this in its current state. You could have a long-term cooling loop in the first 30 cycles if you start with a Critter Ranching dupe, no plastic or radiation research required!
Only in a miniscule base anything closer to a real base this would just devour duoe time.
Lol maybe if you were to leave it open to the world for any dupe to come wandering in. I would just set up a bathroom, bed, food/O2 input, CO2 output, and trap one dupe inside to keep everything running. Like having a boiler operator who lives in the basement and manages the heating for the building.. but in reverse.
@@LagiacrusHunter Name the dupe santa and keep a couple of wild floxes around his -prison- I mean house.
is it only working on dlc or the base game as well?
This works in the base game too, the Ice Maker got updated in general.
In the old times ice makers were even more efficient.
Oh really? I remember they didn't have an overheat temperature.
I don't remember them ever changing the values before this update, and the wiki doesn't list any such changes, either. AFAIK this is the most efficient the Ice Maker has ever been.
Terrariums is water polluters for puft ranching.
....PEPPER IS S TIER AND SLEET WHEAT.......BECAUSE...... *_PEPPER BREAD AND MILK_* .......
2:00:49 Funny that Klei chose to ignore how poisonous real mercury is, maybe to make the game simpler, but bio accumulation of mercury in fish is one of the biggest concerns about mercury poisoning and yet pacu can live in it, which is funny. Maybe they could add a new pacu variant that converts liquid mercury into something else, or a new pokeshell variant that you get when it lives in liquid mercury that gives something else. Also mercury should offgas like polluted water, honestly. It's one of the reasons mercury is so dangerous when spilled in real life. And since we already have gold amalgam in the game....maybe dropping refined metal into mercury would turn them back into their ore (or at the very least for gold back into gold amalgam).