That was probably the most useful and succinct lesson I've seen for the back deck roll. Fabulous!
@FuzzballzАй бұрын
Во. Манду Коцман - мой учитель!
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdiedАй бұрын
But why would you do this on dry land? How?
@creativepursuitsllcАй бұрын
Its a way of understanding and slowly going through the motion and developing muscle memory without needing help in the water. Not a substitute, but for some people, helpful all the same.
@BalthazarMyrrh7016 күн бұрын
@creativepursuitsllc I've been trying my first attempts at rolling a 13' paluski. Filtering thru hundreds of vids, many dated by years & decades. After 8 wet exits off shore & bailing, I am ready to try some dry exercises. I must say, everyone emphasizes paddle brace & push & leverage. I will try to relax this next attempt. Also ppl say to roll without a skirt, in order to prevent panic, etc. I would've thought the kayak would flood & swamp any attempt at a roll? I believe too I was curled too much & summersaultiing beneath, bringing my head up first. And reaching wildly with the paddle, pulling myself out of the kayak. Keeping an arm braced to the kayak, and watching lead blade should correct this... Also ppl say nylon skirts are no good for rolling - but no one says exactly why? Do they have a tendency to pop off? Thanks!
@vladislavkalina20397 ай бұрын
AWASOME! I started going to a swimming pool once per week, hoping I will learn it during winter. If I knew it is possible to do it on land, I wouldn't have waited for winter, would have started practicing in summer on grass :-) Thanks for hint, I'll definitely use it.
@fabricebrasselet86619 ай бұрын
Merci !! Tank you !!!
@creativepursuitsllc9 ай бұрын
Hope it helps!
@barbdouglass2293 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! This is the first time I've seen the roll on dry land. Great exercise for perfecting the hip flick. Much more understandable. Thanks.
@singjing6946 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@singjing6946 Жыл бұрын
Very good video friend 👍👍👍
@sarahh52412 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Mandy, this the best video re rolling I have seen.
@R.H1602 жыл бұрын
you made that look so easy!
@PanicFreakAtl3 жыл бұрын
Mandy .. that a girl !! Great video!
@jeremyboone10713 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Well done. Thank you.
@runedyrting84763 жыл бұрын
That was useful, thank you!
@user-vi7qn6ru5g3 жыл бұрын
Good
@nemod33383 жыл бұрын
I did it on the bed just for practising the move, without kayak or paddle, works great.
@juliecrabb88964 жыл бұрын
can someone please tell me what kind of a kayak that is???
@creativepursuitsllc4 жыл бұрын
It is a Jackson Fun 1 1/2 - I love this little boat, have had it since 2006.
@juliecrabb88964 жыл бұрын
@@creativepursuitsllc awesome! thank you!
@creativepursuitsllc4 жыл бұрын
@@juliecrabb8896 You are welcome. PS I am 63, so its not just for kids!
@scottvan-cy9rp4 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@jamieharr44595 жыл бұрын
When are you ever gonna paddle across your lawn and why would you capsize there. I prefer rivers or creeks myself but to each there own.
@creativepursuitsllc5 жыл бұрын
We have a very uneven lawn - I prefer rivers too.
@powskier5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was awesome. Now I have an actual way to learn the movement. In 25 years of kayaking. I have never been able to do a back deck roll. I attempted it a bunch in the water but always failed and had to revert to a sweep roll. Thanks, Mandy!
@scottvan-cy9rp5 жыл бұрын
wow!! love u!!!!!!!!!!!!
@scottvan-cy9rp5 жыл бұрын
u rule!!!!!!!!!
@danieldaly11896 жыл бұрын
You pushed off the grass sorry bad video u should be able to roll it with just your hips
@richardlimjr7 жыл бұрын
is it possible to do this practice with a bigger kayak (like Q Kayaks's Bandit?). Does the paddle plays a part in Back Deck Roll or the crux of this roll lies on the lower half of the body?
@creativepursuitsllc7 жыл бұрын
I think it would be rather difficult to practise on dry land with a long kayak because you would get very squashed. Short answer - both contribute. The intent of this video is to show the concept of sweeping the paddle around under the back of the kayak, maintaining the angle on the blade that keeps it rising, while doing the hip action. I know it is bit hokey, but these 3D dynamic actions can be difficult to conceptualise.
@richardlimjr7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! I will give it a try this weekend. Cheers
@tomwolfe5897 жыл бұрын
thanks for a great video
@roningamin13917 жыл бұрын
thanks looks easier than what I'm doing lol
@chickaddds8 жыл бұрын
So simple yet I needed to see it to understand. Good video.
@kipikconseils8178 жыл бұрын
Merci votre technique m'a bien aidée
@TJackSurvival10 жыл бұрын
Finally something valuable! Thank you!
@gatograto10 жыл бұрын
Very practical. Thank you for the demonstration.
@bobbiehousand516610 жыл бұрын
check out you tube dry land kayak tool practice technique by Rich Shipley on you tube. This guy did it, but it's a guy and would like to see a woman do it. Thanks
@creativepursuitsllc10 жыл бұрын
I'm not in a position to do that right now, but will try to do it as soon as I can. It looks pretty funny - because the paddle doesn't slice across the ground in the same way that it does on/in water, the kayak rotates instead.
@bobbiehousand516610 жыл бұрын
Can you add a sweep roll demonstration?
@xabixnaq11 жыл бұрын
Silly!
@MatthewBooth11 жыл бұрын
You're expecting too much of a single training tool. I agree with your points A and C, but her rotation looked fine for this roll, and if you look carefully she never hyper-extends her shoulder. It looks safe. Points A and C are down to this being a simulation. Yes, a real roll will be different, but the basics are there. The biggest problem for a beginner is getting your head round what the hell is going on, and I think this would help a lot. I'm going to try it out on some beginners.
@paddler11011 жыл бұрын
Almost any decent kayaker (and by that I mean not a beginner) CAN roll with out a paddle.
@jwatstom5 жыл бұрын
Coooooooool story 🐓
@comandernuf11 жыл бұрын
all true stay in the shuttle car
@christiesondrup777711 жыл бұрын
This video helped me master my roll!! After practicing on land a few times I had no problems rolling in the water!!!
@christiesondrup777711 жыл бұрын
This video helped me
@DelmarBD11 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt this 'in theory' work without the paddles? Would be interesting to see.
@RichardBronosky11 жыл бұрын
A. Wrong. And, she'd have to go even deeper to satisfy your point C B. Different kind of roll. Google: "c to c" roll very little rotation B2. Her form looks identical to the guy in "How To: Do a C to C Kayak Roll" byt user NRSWEB C. The blade can't be flat on the ground unless the whole paddle is laying on the ground. She's not slicing with the tip or stabbing. That's just geometry of demonstrating a level upsidedown activity while sidway on a level plane. I think you're just contrarian.
@creativepursuitsllc11 жыл бұрын
You are correct in noticing some pressure on the paddle blade, but it needs to be very little. In my experience, it works best with a good hip snap and very little pressure on the paddle. If you try to do it all with your arms/paddle, you will not come up (as happens in the water). So when practising, it is important to focus on minimising pressure on the paddle and maximising the hip action.
@playboaterStef12311 жыл бұрын
people dont listen to this woman for 4 reasons: A paddle went too deep B did not use full rotation B.2 ended the stroke on a high brace doing so COULD result in stain or dislocation C. she pushed off the floor with the tip of the paddle as apposed to the blade itself if you copy this technique it will not succeed as well as a roll using correct technique or at all
@H0nani11 жыл бұрын
My only concern as I watch this is that it seems to me you are getting a little push off the tip of the paddle against the lawn when you in the process of hip snapping. Are you not "memorizing" leverage that will not actually be there once in the water? Otherwise great for practicing body position and technique and exercising the core so I still think it's a great idea.
@cjjustthebest11 жыл бұрын
the title of the video should give you a clue as to why
@redchamo11 жыл бұрын
thanks ;)
@markalfresco11 жыл бұрын
This was a great help, and it works thanks for your time, mark from malta
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That was probably the most useful and succinct lesson I've seen for the back deck roll. Fabulous!
Во. Манду Коцман - мой учитель!
But why would you do this on dry land? How?
Its a way of understanding and slowly going through the motion and developing muscle memory without needing help in the water. Not a substitute, but for some people, helpful all the same.
@creativepursuitsllc I've been trying my first attempts at rolling a 13' paluski. Filtering thru hundreds of vids, many dated by years & decades. After 8 wet exits off shore & bailing, I am ready to try some dry exercises. I must say, everyone emphasizes paddle brace & push & leverage. I will try to relax this next attempt. Also ppl say to roll without a skirt, in order to prevent panic, etc. I would've thought the kayak would flood & swamp any attempt at a roll? I believe too I was curled too much & summersaultiing beneath, bringing my head up first. And reaching wildly with the paddle, pulling myself out of the kayak. Keeping an arm braced to the kayak, and watching lead blade should correct this... Also ppl say nylon skirts are no good for rolling - but no one says exactly why? Do they have a tendency to pop off? Thanks!
AWASOME! I started going to a swimming pool once per week, hoping I will learn it during winter. If I knew it is possible to do it on land, I wouldn't have waited for winter, would have started practicing in summer on grass :-) Thanks for hint, I'll definitely use it.
Merci !! Tank you !!!
Hope it helps!
Awesome! This is the first time I've seen the roll on dry land. Great exercise for perfecting the hip flick. Much more understandable. Thanks.
👍👍👍
Very good video friend 👍👍👍
Thankyou Mandy, this the best video re rolling I have seen.
you made that look so easy!
Mandy .. that a girl !! Great video!
Excellent video. Well done. Thank you.
That was useful, thank you!
Good
I did it on the bed just for practising the move, without kayak or paddle, works great.
can someone please tell me what kind of a kayak that is???
It is a Jackson Fun 1 1/2 - I love this little boat, have had it since 2006.
@@creativepursuitsllc awesome! thank you!
@@juliecrabb8896 You are welcome. PS I am 63, so its not just for kids!
beautiful
When are you ever gonna paddle across your lawn and why would you capsize there. I prefer rivers or creeks myself but to each there own.
We have a very uneven lawn - I prefer rivers too.
Wow, that was awesome. Now I have an actual way to learn the movement. In 25 years of kayaking. I have never been able to do a back deck roll. I attempted it a bunch in the water but always failed and had to revert to a sweep roll. Thanks, Mandy!
wow!! love u!!!!!!!!!!!!
u rule!!!!!!!!!
You pushed off the grass sorry bad video u should be able to roll it with just your hips
is it possible to do this practice with a bigger kayak (like Q Kayaks's Bandit?). Does the paddle plays a part in Back Deck Roll or the crux of this roll lies on the lower half of the body?
I think it would be rather difficult to practise on dry land with a long kayak because you would get very squashed. Short answer - both contribute. The intent of this video is to show the concept of sweeping the paddle around under the back of the kayak, maintaining the angle on the blade that keeps it rising, while doing the hip action. I know it is bit hokey, but these 3D dynamic actions can be difficult to conceptualise.
Thanks for the reply! I will give it a try this weekend. Cheers
thanks for a great video
thanks looks easier than what I'm doing lol
So simple yet I needed to see it to understand. Good video.
Merci votre technique m'a bien aidée
Finally something valuable! Thank you!
Very practical. Thank you for the demonstration.
check out you tube dry land kayak tool practice technique by Rich Shipley on you tube. This guy did it, but it's a guy and would like to see a woman do it. Thanks
I'm not in a position to do that right now, but will try to do it as soon as I can. It looks pretty funny - because the paddle doesn't slice across the ground in the same way that it does on/in water, the kayak rotates instead.
Can you add a sweep roll demonstration?
Silly!
You're expecting too much of a single training tool. I agree with your points A and C, but her rotation looked fine for this roll, and if you look carefully she never hyper-extends her shoulder. It looks safe. Points A and C are down to this being a simulation. Yes, a real roll will be different, but the basics are there. The biggest problem for a beginner is getting your head round what the hell is going on, and I think this would help a lot. I'm going to try it out on some beginners.
Almost any decent kayaker (and by that I mean not a beginner) CAN roll with out a paddle.
Coooooooool story 🐓
all true stay in the shuttle car
This video helped me master my roll!! After practicing on land a few times I had no problems rolling in the water!!!
This video helped me
Shouldnt this 'in theory' work without the paddles? Would be interesting to see.
A. Wrong. And, she'd have to go even deeper to satisfy your point C B. Different kind of roll. Google: "c to c" roll very little rotation B2. Her form looks identical to the guy in "How To: Do a C to C Kayak Roll" byt user NRSWEB C. The blade can't be flat on the ground unless the whole paddle is laying on the ground. She's not slicing with the tip or stabbing. That's just geometry of demonstrating a level upsidedown activity while sidway on a level plane. I think you're just contrarian.
You are correct in noticing some pressure on the paddle blade, but it needs to be very little. In my experience, it works best with a good hip snap and very little pressure on the paddle. If you try to do it all with your arms/paddle, you will not come up (as happens in the water). So when practising, it is important to focus on minimising pressure on the paddle and maximising the hip action.
people dont listen to this woman for 4 reasons: A paddle went too deep B did not use full rotation B.2 ended the stroke on a high brace doing so COULD result in stain or dislocation C. she pushed off the floor with the tip of the paddle as apposed to the blade itself if you copy this technique it will not succeed as well as a roll using correct technique or at all
My only concern as I watch this is that it seems to me you are getting a little push off the tip of the paddle against the lawn when you in the process of hip snapping. Are you not "memorizing" leverage that will not actually be there once in the water? Otherwise great for practicing body position and technique and exercising the core so I still think it's a great idea.
the title of the video should give you a clue as to why
thanks ;)
This was a great help, and it works thanks for your time, mark from malta
Interesting...
She on grass?
Good stuff, but be careful of 'Lawn sausages'
You are most welcome.