Pierson Workholding is a company dedicated to advancing the CNC Machining industry through innovative workholding products. We design products that track with advances in CAD, CAM, High-speed Machining, and 4th and 5th Axis equipment.
WHY INNOVATE?
Minimized setups • Minimized labor • Higher production • Higher profits
PRO & MINI PALLET SYSTEM
Our pallet systems are the ultimate in high-density, quick-change workholding. You can easily swap 20, 30, even 50 parts in seconds while using the full travel of your machine.
SMARTVAC 3
If you have thin, flat parts that cant be held in a vise, then our vacuum workholding system is a perfect choice. It's simple and powerful, yet efficient. It's also customizable for those complex part shapes.
ROTOVISE PRO
The newest addition to our workholding family. Bolt it to any common rotary unit and you'll be machining multiple parts with access to multiple faces, giving at the least a 12x productivity boost over a standard vise.
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Excited to see a video on the max 4 micro mentioned o nthe podcast hopefully soon.
Start with good standardised processes! You know where to come... .😀
What tool holding do you use with your Lynx. I find that it takes such a long time to change tools on those BMTs.
10:06 I've replaced so many of those cutting tool holders.
I run 6 of these at my work. I thought I broke one today and was really freaking out. The machine alarmed out and I reset it and thought I unclamped the sub spindle Chuck and it didn't. Then I jogged the B axis over with a part clamped in both chucks and it snapped the steel part.
7:30 *What was that parting off tool?*
We mostly run Kyocera tools in our lathes. If they don't have what we're looking for then we fall back to Kennametal.
Why not just load up a chip fan in the tool carousel and run a macro program. Alot easier no?
They talk about it In another video but the gist is it takes another tool In the carousel and the air knife was more effective.
The loss of another precious tool slot is a big part of why I do not have a chip fan in my two VMCs.
I agree that the loss of a tool slot isn't ideal. Playing devil's advocate to this, however, what's the probability of your VMC/HMC utilising 100% carousel tool space capacity for any given job? Unless your leaving unused tools in the carousel, which in this case is no different to a chip fan. 🤔 🙂 the only variable that skews this theory is a low tool holding capacity?
@@Lewisdowning_ My main VMC has two slots that I swap regularly, the other 22 are a pretty standardized toolset that isn't worth jerking around to make space for a chip fan that wouldn't add a benefit equivalent to the loss of a slot. The external air knife is almost like adding an extra tool pocket, which is pretty cool.
Originally, we thought freeing up a tool slot was the main benefit, but an air knife is easily 10x more powerful and thorough than a chip fan.
If you think about it, it's weird that most machines that work with coolant don't have air knife option at all. It's such a useful thing to have.
That's a good point!
Thanks for the video Jay!
good video Mr pierson..thanks for your time
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Jay, you are a gift for the CNC human branch. Thank you for your help and generosity via the You Tube channel. Be Blessed in all your ways and means, your family and your CNC crew. Salutations from France.
Very kind. I'm humbled. Thanks for watching from France.
It just that new people see it as something they want to learn and the older people see it as something they already now some not all, think they have learned everything and don’t need help.
Yup i have a few questions. Throughput. Why does it matter so much? You can throw silly "what ifs" at anything but the two circumstances I'm about to lay out, I feel, are perfectly common. They are also "anti-lean" (?) , and ignore "total throughput" , so I hesitate and feel I am missing something, but this seems perfectly logical to me. 1. Customer needs to place an order today. So they do, and we get the job. They have a deadline, and the job sits for 6 days. While sitting, no person or resource spends a single second or penny on it. It just sits in someones inbox or to do list to enter the order. Then they enter it, we do it in a day, ship it 3 days early, done. Can we not say throughput starts when the work starts? 2. Customer places order today. Its a big 150k order. We could run ALL of our equipment and people on it, to get it done super fast. fastest throughput possible. Its due in 6 months. So we do. This is fastest throughput. Except a problem - we missed a bunch of great opportunities because we had no capacity. Job is finished and no work. It would have been better to run the job out longer, over time, and used some of our other resources to do other things. Wrong? Sure - the opposite could happen, where you drag the job out a bit and a super good opportunity comes along and if you had done that first job faster you'd have the capacity for it and now you don't becuse you cant do both. But, by leaving yourself with some open capacity, you leave the door open for opportunities and can take them when they come - rather than passing on some and hoping more come later. Yeah?
The first thing I’d do is turn off that annoying beep.
We ended up just selling the beeping machine.
Standardized cutting tools or a first choice tooling program is a huge step in the right direction. My last shop had a mix of tooling. One guy would program a job with a material specific tool and the next guy would use general purpose tooling. It led to wildly different part quality and cycle times.
would a 6 sided hexagon tomb stone work in this machine?
Possibly but we outfitted it with 4 of our Horizontal Pallet Systems: store.piersonworkholding.com/horizontal-pallet-system-tombstone
It isn't just the new guys that can do this. Anyone who isn't involved with the project/job can bring that insight.
I tested this by making my vac fixture without any clearance between the part and plate. I just made the grooves for the O-ring and the vac port leaving a facemilled surface. I put a part on the fixture, pulled 27"s of vacuum, and then pushed the part off the fixture without much effort. Next I cut .005" of clearance in my plate leaving the minimum of islands to support my part, put a part on, pulled 27"s of vacuum, and tried to push the part off, but wasn't able to. After this test I concluded you do want some clearance between the part and vac plate as it does make a big difference in how well you hold your parts. The part was a 9" x 12" sheet of 3/4" thick polyethelene. I do love vacuum workholding but think custom fixtures made specifically for the part is the only way to go. Or start with a big flat plate with one vac port in the middle and cut some rubber sheet to fit your part and go. This is my go to for short runs but you will need a higher flow pump and larger coolant separating tank as this method doesn't seal as well as O-rings.
We have this very same machine, which was delivered and commissioned three weeks ago. I am now making chips. It’s a super machine.
Absolutely Love this! I have a small shop and echo Jay's comments. This should be a thoughtful process as always. Great video!
very well said actually
How is the VM3s thermal stability in Z axis? I've heard with the finer pitch ball screws that it varies as much as .007" from cold to warm...
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Lots of potential for cosine error to become relevant here with the mounting method. Probe calibration also going to play a significant role.
Always loved this idea -- as soon as we saw you doing this a few years back we bought one of those Amazon motorized winches so ours has a little pendant to move up and down.
First, I admire and respect your accomplishments, your a smart cookie. This is just factual info that may or may not be applicable depending on your level of accuracy. Even leaning against the machine's front will move your machines tram because of the way the sheet metal is attached, i have many NC's a few different brands. Don't believe me , put a tenths indicator from spindle to table or vise and watch the needle move as you put your weight leaning against the front of the machine. Hanging over 200 lbs from the sheet metal may be moving your machine out of TRAM. Just info.
Inspiring. Bravo for paying it forward to the youth.
I have facility in Poland. I have 8 Haas mills 1xc TM-1 (2006) 4x VF2 1x VF3 1x VF6 1x UMC-750 (2023). UMC-750 we installed in May 2023. Since installation June 2023 we had 21 UMC failures with repairs by Haas service. No more Haas in my facility.
Getting doosan with fanuc is bigest mistake you will ever make. Pay for Siemens, considered best for a good reason
very good job Mr Pierson
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Have you noticed any weight shift for the machine and need to re calibrate probe when the rotary is mounted or not mounted?
Nothing measurable. I roughly recall that Haas machines monitor inertial loads to calculate acceleration/deceleration.
Its one thing hanging it in there but using the PPS too is just next level
Fantastic video. This is a great and simple solution.
This is exactly what i have been looking to do with my HRT210SS.
That one's for you brother!
What size is that rotary table?
It's in the description.
@@Thepriest39 So it is thanks. Charles
@@465maltbie This particular one in the video is a discontinued HRC-160, but it's nearly identical to the HRT-160.
im purchasing an EC 400 soon. Will I be able to find work?
Horizontals are best when Vertical machines can't keep up. I'd get the work first.
Hey, very nice video. Could do you a Video of Programming multiple fixture on Fusion 360?
Definitely! It's on the to-do list.
Jay, I am curious what your approach is when you are trying to sell your own product through your own website but are regularly contacted by distributors that are asking for supplier info such as W9, accounting and customer service contacts, etc. To me, this seems like unnecessary hoops to jump through for a simple online retail sale. But have you found success pursuing the distributor route for your products? I would like to avoid using them but at the same time, a sale is a sale? Thanks for any feedback. Really appreciate these videos!
Most agents at big distributors are just following their internal process of onboarding you. Filling out a W9 is a one time task that you can provide to any customer. In my early days, whenever they asked for company surveys and contacts, I put my name and company number in every blank and literally checked "no" to every question box. If they moved forward with a purchase, great! I'm onboard. If not, then their customer could only go direct to me. I'm pretty sure 100% of the completed forms went straight to a file without ever being reviewed. Having lots of distributors wanting to sell your products is a fantastic annoyance to have!
The fact that these machines have "accuracy and stability" zones is quite crazy
True, sadly. But just the UMC-500. The VFs and EC are nice and tight.
I wonder how this work flow compares to the doosan lathe. I would of those a bar fed lather would be walk away from the machine for as long as the bar feeder can be.
Pallets are definitely the faster way to make parts but walkaway time on a bar fed lathe is also tough to beat. BUT, we now keep the Doosan MX available for more complex parts. These simple rail parts kept an expensive lathe tied up.
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John spent 67 minutes watching KZread videos while the part was running.
Most of our parts are round, so always interested in different ways to hold round parts. How does this compare to the SMX output? Considering getting a Doosan MX for it's versatility.
An MX is a great machine for 1 and done parts but it doesn't compete in terms of throughput compared to palletized workholding in a VMC.
@@PiersonWorkholding I dream of having one and done parts. Too much swapping currently.
I love my RotoVise. I make way more parts on it than I thought I would when I originally bought it. If you have a 4th axis rotary this is a must have.
Do you recommend steel threaded inserts in the pallet to improve thread life for the clamps? Or do you screw the Mitee Bites directly to the aluminum pallet?
If there's a fastener that will be cycled in and out, like the clamp thread, there should be thread inserts for that hole. For the fixture rails that are stationary, threading into the aluminum is fine.
I guess my biggest question, is why are you making this from round stock? If you used flat bar, cut to length with some excess, this would be a 2 operation mill part. Maybe I'm not seeing a feature but it looks like something that you could run from square stock...
I answered that at 4:23 and it's still a 2 Op mill part. Did you even watch the video?
As a customer of yours and someone who watches most of the videos you publish, I did watch it but somehow missed the 24 seconds where you explained why the round stock. Since I was at lunch while watching, I'm sure i had a distraction to help me miss it. Sorry to have questioned you before re-watching, but a little grace would have been appreciated in your response. As a fellow machine shop guy, I was only thinking of helping, so once again, sorry I missed it...
Jay, Glad to see you putting out videos again! One topic that would be great to get your perspective on is the offline management of chips/coolant in your shop. Specifically relating to cleanliness of working with offline pallets. We are trying to think of clever ways to keep our pallet unload/load process as quick and clean as possible. We have some ideas, and are already using chip fans in the machines, but would love to hear from you on this as well.
We use air knives mounted to the side of our spindle to sweep chips. I'll make a video about it!
Awsome pallet. Do you have any videos on how to model a pallets in fusion? I've been wanting to get your products but modeling has been holding me back. Thanks for all good vids.
That's a great topic. Yes, we have 3 videos planned this year for modelling tips.
@@PiersonWorkholding Awsome can't wait!