Neatling

Neatling

What is Scandinavia?

What is Scandinavia?

Potential State Mergers

Potential State Mergers

Failed State Mergers

Failed State Mergers

Пікірлер

  • @frostnova8300
    @frostnova8300Сағат бұрын

    I’m from Cascadia!

  • @cephasoj108
    @cephasoj1086 сағат бұрын

    It'll explode in a decade

  • @Steiper
    @Steiper7 сағат бұрын

    This wouldn’t be future but present if humanity was actually United and not fighting itself the entire time

  • @basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126
    @basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t71267 сағат бұрын

    Bah, lame. I hate when alternate history videos have the Roman Empire survive, but then they just randomly change their name for some reason.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_534215 сағат бұрын

    Das ist gud

  • @DavidRusu1919
    @DavidRusu191916 сағат бұрын

    This is the most unrealistic alternate history video that i've ever seen

  • @luksix
    @luksix17 сағат бұрын

    Poland: Oh okay, We are Baltic country..

  • @seto_kaiba_
    @seto_kaiba_19 сағат бұрын

    By any chance did this Karl Otto flunk out of art school? 😬

  • @handsomelyditto4215
    @handsomelyditto421522 сағат бұрын

    this should be an eu4 mod

  • @GodzillavsKong216
    @GodzillavsKong21623 сағат бұрын

    In that reality, Rusphobia is not born, although it is very little, but not as much as in our reality, the entire West hates Russia, they see it as a villain and they consider the United States as a Superman worse than Germany considers Russia.

  • @MalachiCo0
    @MalachiCo0Күн бұрын

    14:04 heh Himmelfart

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212Күн бұрын

    Lore of What if Germany Formed Early? - No Holy Roman Empire | Alternate History momentum 100

  • @anisleking7241
    @anisleking7241Күн бұрын

    Awesome video! But say I was wondering if you could make like an alternate history where the Islamic caliphate never fell ? I think that would be a really good video.

  • @ladahieno2382
    @ladahieno2382Күн бұрын

    Finally, another great alt history video from our favourite Rome obsessed Dane!

  • @Fabiansegara1969
    @Fabiansegara1969Күн бұрын

    That would be something. with the best parts of Belgium, the German Ruhrgebiet. The Ports of Antwerp, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Bremen and Hamburg and the Oil- and Gas reserves in the North Sea. That makes it more the Maingate to Europe. We can still change the name to Burgundy LOL.

  • @Aceman52
    @Aceman52Күн бұрын

    This is a much more realistic scenario than we had in our timeline. In the long run, Europe is much more stable.

  • @demarcomixon
    @demarcomixonКүн бұрын

    Alternative historians have a weird obsession with Germany and I don’t know why. There’s so many topics to explore with Alternative history but Germany makes up like half the content.

  • @michaelsurratt1864
    @michaelsurratt1864Күн бұрын

    Because they lost both world wars they were so powerful in the late 1800s everybody likes the underdog winning

  • @adgead
    @adgeadКүн бұрын

    i have a question, how do you get the population and the gdp?

  • @adgead
    @adgeadКүн бұрын

    of the whole country ofc

  • @Neatling
    @NeatlingКүн бұрын

    I calculate it myself. Mostly based on real world numbers of the regions the country encompasses, but often altered based on the different history.

  • @Menskr
    @MenskrКүн бұрын

    Não a America do sul virou um enorme Rio grande do sul

  • @shinsenshogun900
    @shinsenshogun900Күн бұрын

    This video gave me a quick deep damage in the gut with having Berengar's Lombards be the HRE

  • @DavidWillisSLS
    @DavidWillisSLSКүн бұрын

    Rome turning into Greece would be very hard to justify imo. The thing that prompted them to become Greece in our own timeline was the fact that the Romans fighting for independence from the ottomans were physically from Greece, whereas the Romans in Anatolia were more content. This drove the Romans fighting for freedom to distinguish themselves from the Romans content with ottoman rule by classifying themselves as Greeks. With a continuous imperial government in Constantinople, and holding lands outside of Greece (mainly Moesia and Thrace) a Greek identity never emerges because it would be directly at odds with their highly prestigious Roman identity

  • @doctorgolgi1934
    @doctorgolgi1934Күн бұрын

    Reality left the chat 😂😂

  • @sterlingpratt5802
    @sterlingpratt5802Күн бұрын

    Love the Greek kingdom that still has a toehold in anatolia--reverse Turkey.

  • @sergiotorres1069
    @sergiotorres1069Күн бұрын

    😂😂😂😂so Putin didn’t take the anti aging drugs

  • @charlieross6586
    @charlieross6586Күн бұрын

    Underrated channel

  • @ronanengels3456
    @ronanengels3456Күн бұрын

    “Not holy not Roman not an empire”, but also it was endorsed by the pope, and also lasted for hundreds of years and was an important state in the center of Europe, BuT it WAsNt RoMAn

  • @Quack609
    @Quack6092 күн бұрын

    Could u do a video of a alternative history of India if it never got colonised

  • @Silvius5000
    @Silvius50002 күн бұрын

    Frustration that no major continental powers colonized America's,,,,,

  • @Silvius5000
    @Silvius50002 күн бұрын

    Is fun,,,. almost all European try colonized Brazil,,,, they have to import slaves from Africa that Portuguese control..

  • @kiankier7330
    @kiankier73302 күн бұрын

    for Vendland, what system do you use for the cities names?

  • @Neatling
    @Neatling8 сағат бұрын

    A mix of looking at their name origins and translating it, dani-fying existing names, and making it up. Generally old Slavic names stuck around, just becoming botched Danish versions, and newer names with German origins have been replaced by made up or translated names.

  • @Silvius5000
    @Silvius50002 күн бұрын

    Lol German Brazil? They dont stand a match to Portugal, France and Holland try to...

  • @schnitzel4584
    @schnitzel45842 күн бұрын

    Very sad that that the east is not ours but better than reality in general.

  • @yttryff6159
    @yttryff61592 күн бұрын

    The holy Roman confederation

  • @sjofus2073
    @sjofus20732 күн бұрын

    ikk lav Danmark mindre hver 100 år din fjolletrold

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr74872 күн бұрын

    Holy = it didn't need Papal approval, it held its own legitimacy. Roman = it ruled italy & held (some) Roman traditions. Empire = it had an Emperor, who had primacy.

  • @g.aathoz1211
    @g.aathoz12112 күн бұрын

    As with many of your videos there is a cool scenario presented but I think you never explain some fundamental assumptions and following outcomes. For example why would Poland be stronger because of a stronger Germany, I get why the Germans may never have pushed on Eastwards into the Baltic and colonized Prussia (although I think this would have happened anyway because the pope still would have wanted to Christianize the Baltic region and it is easier using the stronger German kingdom than Poland) but why wouldn't the German marches still be established and pushed Eastward all the same? The rise of the Turks in Anatolia is also unlikely if you start with the assumption of a stronger Byzantium. France being more successful against a unified Germany is very unlikely, especially if you are going to include Burgundy as a sovereign entity establishing itself. Protestantism would still rise as it has less to do with the HRE and more to do with North Western Germanic culture in combination with the heavy handed response from the Catholics resulting in the schism. I have no problem with the colonial stuff as it is impossible to neither falsify or verify. To conclude I think it would have been rather similar to the alternative scenario of the Kaiserreich, or Austria in our timeline but even larger and similarly multi-ethnic however stronger and more stable. Also I think you missed some things that could have been interesting: - Asian, Australian and North American colonies as the Germans kind of merged with the Dutch (I think a German Australia is more likely than a South American Colony due the Dutch explorers in Oceania and colonial activity in Indonesia). - The Reformation or some similar schism. - Alternative world wars, maybe France and Poland got beaten so bad by Germany and Russia in the alternative timeline so that they turned Nazi instead.

  • @7HEMUFFINMAN
    @7HEMUFFINMAN2 күн бұрын

    I don't know if you still look at comments, but what would happen with the Sapmi? Would there be any difference in when we stopped the, well, genocide and forced re-education?

  • @Neatling
    @NeatlingКүн бұрын

    I always look at the comments! Realistically, probably not. With a big unified Scandinavia that never loses Finland, the Finns are probably also treated pretty badly compared to OTL. I imagine the sami population would look similar to real life. Being recognized today but having struggled for centuries. Only region they may have endured a little better is perhaps the Kola peninsula.

  • @7HEMUFFINMAN
    @7HEMUFFINMANКүн бұрын

    @@Neatling very cool

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur46352 күн бұрын

    Southern Italy was the richest part of Italy until Industrialization which was led by the north to the detriment of the south.

  • @JJroly1
    @JJroly12 күн бұрын

    So happy I have refound your channel, wouldn’t want to miss out in this

  • @3chmidt
    @3chmidt2 күн бұрын

    As a German I like this timeline

  • @asaifaji4490
    @asaifaji44902 күн бұрын

    It'd be interesting if Indonesia managed to form ASEAN into a union or at least limited union. That would make a regional cold war between Indonesia and china, and it would make sense for japan korea and australia to rethink their sides in the declining us order. It would also be ideal to see more resurgence for middle eastern nation and south america.

  • @JohnDoe-sw1rs
    @JohnDoe-sw1rsКүн бұрын

    Indonesia is Muslim, we won’t allow it to lead ASEAN.

  • @kerbecks5076
    @kerbecks50762 күн бұрын

    Trying to watch a video about the Holy Roman Empire that doesn't quote Voltaire: impossible

  • @GokuUltraEgo-il1ho
    @GokuUltraEgo-il1ho2 күн бұрын

    No HRE No Liechtenstein

  • @Danish_Waffle
    @Danish_Waffle2 күн бұрын

    You do know that the HRE was indeed Holy, Roman, and an Empire for most of its history right?

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji2 күн бұрын

    It Was Not, it didn't have Papal Land for a majority of it's history it didn't have Rome for majority of it's history and it didnt have big unified states for majority of it's history so it was neither of those three

  • @user-yu1jb6de6n
    @user-yu1jb6de6n2 күн бұрын

    It's a very good video but I have two complaints: 1-Bulgaria didn't submit to the Ottomans and lose it's identity so there's no reason why it should to the Greeks and, 2-If Russia doesn't have a communist revolution(it seems significant enough to mention) or maintains Tsarist rule then I don't see why it couldn't greatly overtake Germany to have 250-350 million people overall.

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji2 күн бұрын

    1.Bulgarian Land was under Bizantium for a long time and could just fuse together but be under name of Greece due to it having greater historical prestige. 2.Well we skipped over 100 years so it could happen but we don't know, and also we don't know about's it borders, for all we know it could have lost entire south in europe over that time and be left with half of their territory be not ideal for most things

  • @user-yu1jb6de6n
    @user-yu1jb6de6n2 күн бұрын

    @@KiraiKatsuji Bulgaria had developed a strong national identity by then and the adversity between the Hellenic Greeks and Slavic Bulgarians in terms of language culture and history. As for your second point, that does seem reasonable.

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_534215 сағат бұрын

    Yeah the difference is the Bulgarians were Orthodox, like the Greeks, and at the time national identity had more to do with religion than language or ethnicity. The Bulgarians, like the Greeks, remained separate during Ottoman rule because the Empire was Muslim and oppressed them. In this timeline Byzantium doesn't oppress the Bulgarians, it simply assimilates them like other Orthodox linguistic minorities

  • @user-yu1jb6de6n
    @user-yu1jb6de6n15 сағат бұрын

    @@georgios_5342 It doesn't matter if they were both Orthodox or not, the Bulgarians by then had the mindset that the Byzantines were their arch geopolitical nemesis and similarity in religious sect wouldn't ease that. They spoke two very different languages, had a history and mindset of competition and adversarial attitudes so the Bulgarians would not take too kindly to assimilation. By your standards, Ukraine should have long been assimilated by now but they retain a distinct identity from Russia, despite both being Orthodox, sharing the same alphabet and a nearly identical language with a history of unity and shared struggle, the Ukrainians having a flat land without mountains to make assimilation hard, along with vast intermarriage between the two. The Bulgarians are much less primed for assimilation so they should very much retain a distinct identity.

  • @Respecteddude666
    @Respecteddude6662 күн бұрын

    Do the second part Western Roman empire surviving ASAP 😭🙏

  • @TheHatersarebad
    @TheHatersarebad2 күн бұрын

    Great job 👍👍👍👍, though I'm a little sad with the weak ERE 😭😭

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji2 күн бұрын

    True It should be Called GBE (Great Bulgarian Empire) and have entire balkans

  • @TheHatersarebad
    @TheHatersarebad2 күн бұрын

    @@KiraiKatsuji Neatling is always giving us a Big Turkey 🤣🤣😭😭

  • @hoi-polloi1863
    @hoi-polloi18632 күн бұрын

    This is a fascinating road-not-taken! I like the use of "Dutch" to refer to all Germans, but I gotta say I'm gonna miss those wacky Teutonic Knights...

  • @theChaosKe
    @theChaosKe2 күн бұрын

    It doesnt sound like it but dutch and teuton are cognates of the same origin word. They would still exist, but just be crusading somewhere else.

  • @hoi-polloi1863
    @hoi-polloi18632 күн бұрын

    @@theChaosKe Makes sense! Of course, the Teutonic Knights being a crusading order, it would have been very on-brand for them to leave Prussia for somewhere else once they'd finished the job. I could imagine them showing up in Morocco or somewhere... "Hi, we're the Teutonic/Dutch Knights (we'll supply etymology upon request). We are here to fight you!"

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji2 күн бұрын

    Well Teutonic Knights would certainly still exist but not in Prussia, as i guess poland didn't go through fracturing meaning that a more unified Force could take care of the prussians instead of one Duke of Mazovia that brought them in to deal with the pagans and they decided to remain there

  • @occidentalodyssey3028
    @occidentalodyssey30282 күн бұрын

    The thought of India dumping hundreds of millions of its excess population on the moon, and the lunar landscape dotted with improvised shacks and designated shitting craters will never not be funny.

  • @specil-k
    @specil-k2 күн бұрын

    okay big fan of the sentiment but the video has way too big a scope to function as a proper alternate history video. A lot of assumptions had to be made that basically turn this into complete fiction by the early modern era.

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji2 күн бұрын

    Yeah that what comes around with making an alternate history, as no matter when you start after 50 years it becomes total fiction as nothing could be fully predicted

  • @specil-k
    @specil-kКүн бұрын

    ​@@KiraiKatsujiI mean sure but squeezing one thousand years of history into a fifteen minute video doesn't help either