Her last race, a few feet more she would have had it. She gave us so much joy.
@lestercharles85224 ай бұрын
How many hands was this legend...? He looks 17 hands at least in this clip. Stunning
@arleneirvine15265 ай бұрын
who is the white horse in this race!
@k.w.90026 ай бұрын
Thanks! Great footage!. I knew, played with + loved Secretariat, was on the far turn at his Derby, but Man O War won by 100 lengths,never ran full out, only lost once due to his jockey. Never had a bad race. You can tell, like Secretariat, that he had presence + knew he was somebody, loved cameras.
@acu1127 ай бұрын
And that's how to handle idiot's, thanks Dave for not skipping a beat.
@user-mf2yo9mi4s8 ай бұрын
My top five greatest racehorse's of all time no cap and doesn't matter the sex or DNA. .#1.dr.fager .#2.zenyatta. #3.rachelalexander.#3mano'war. #.4.bigred. .#.5.ruffian
@Devan-he4kr10 ай бұрын
Great memory at this show with my dad. We were far back. This is a good angle on it.
@localkiwi998810 ай бұрын
To call her the best is a bit far fetched. Australian Mare "Black Caviar" between 2009 and her retirement 2013, won 25 straight without ever loosing a race. also Australian Mare "Winx" won 37 of 43 career starts, including, between May 2015 and her retirement in April 2019, her last 33 races in succession. "Zenyatta" the greatest? definitely debatable. Been a lot of great horses around the world.
@equine202010 ай бұрын
And he raced on tracks that weren't improved as today's. He carried more weight than competitors. Can't compare his racing conditions to the efficiency of modern tracks. And more advanced food of today's horses. And medical care.
@theOlLineRebel5 ай бұрын
...and unwillingness to put weight on anyone, much less true handicapping margins.
@peterhelguera678110 ай бұрын
Zenyatta is still overrated , always beat the same horses and that classic was weak
@alxtnt5711 ай бұрын
cryin my eyes.. Eddie .. like i lost an old friend.. Him n his boy.. DLR is a neccessity
@lehcaraz111 ай бұрын
Zenyatta gets my bid for first and second. Her 2009 race was unbelievable but 2010 against an even more loaded field of males she made up 18 lengths behind from the backstretch and overcame being held up by Quality Road at the final turn and still was running Blame to the ground and would have passed him the next step past the wire and would have kept going! She beat every male she faced and just needed a better ride in 2010 to knock Blame out. I still feel sad as it was said Zenyatta seemed confused as she was led back to the paddock instead of the winners circle! She had never lost before in 20 races.
@santhoshudata441 Жыл бұрын
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@clareblakeman83 Жыл бұрын
He will NEVER be less than the perfect animal God made. Carried 138 lbs Wore steel shoes not aluminum. Ran every three days in many outings NEVER truly extended himself in any race. Into the stretch of every race, his jockey would stand in the stirrups trying to slow him so not to embarrass his competition. His times in all his races never showed his real ability. Despite record times, Man O' War still was never let to run full out. The track today has been made for horses to run faster. Look it up. All that is TRUE.
@rosegarza676 Жыл бұрын
Mine to, I also read that book. What they put him through no one can ever match him. People do these fake comparisons, without taking in account all the weight that was add on him. I don't like the horse racing or show horse industry because a lot of animals are sbused.abused. most of the greats of today are his great great etc. grand horses.
@laurenurban3942 Жыл бұрын
At least there are some old photos and awful film footage….mostly in retirement. There’s no film footage of him running down the length of a stretch …..only short snippets. Why didn’t anyone film him running an entire race or at least the stretch run? I know it was 1920 but they had the camera technology. I always found that odd. He was supposed to be the greatest race horse of the time, but no one thought to film him running over a distance? Always found that strange. I’ll bet someone has film footage like that but it’s sitting, locked away in a storage box. There has to be more then what’s here on KZread?
@larryb131 Жыл бұрын
Man O' War and Secretariat were heads above any other race horses that ever lived. There will probably never be another horse as great as these two were. Big, Strong, and fast. Would have been amazing to have seen them race each other. I will never compare the two, as in my mind they were kindered spirits and both beautiful animals. Interesting they were both nicknamed "Big Red" I bet if you had been able to see them side by side, they would have been almost identicle.
@johnvan6803 Жыл бұрын
Great horse, but EVERY horse is second fiddle to the great Secretariet!!
@cindyrissal3628 Жыл бұрын
Man O' War was no freak, & to call him that is disrespectful & insulting. Which idiot wrote that copy??
@lesliethomas5845 Жыл бұрын
Pure magnificence ❤ I'm also happy to notice, that in most images I've ever seen of Big Red, whether still photos or motion picture / film... the owner / trainer/ whoever made such decisions, seem(s) to have found a simple bit such as a snaffle bit, perfectly effective. No need for any more painful, harsh type of bit
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
You’ll also notice he never, ever needed special equipment in any race. No blinkers, no shadow roll, not a single bandage, not even a nose strap! Pure racing machine, all about running, no extra control needed.
@justthink5854 Жыл бұрын
majestic!
@johnvan6803 Жыл бұрын
ManO'War was a great horse, but how does anyone dare to say he was better than the great Secretariet who holds the track record in ALL THREE Triple Crown races FIFTY YEARS ON!! In a side by side comparison of Secretariet vs ManO'War, Secretariet beat ManO'War in every catagory!! CASE CLOSED!
@krism2649 Жыл бұрын
Secretariat lost 4 races and was racing on anabolic steroids.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
No, not case closed. It IS hard to compare very different eras, (was printed in articles in 1920 also) but note it is also hard to compare daily on different tracks. Hence Beyer Speed figures, etc. so your times don’t mean much in direct comparison…and MOW has faster times in a few, if you want to use that argument. MOW is probably the greatest record-setter ever. When he finished 1920, he was on the American Record list 5x. Before him, that hadn’t happened even more than 2x. Sec was only at best on the American (Dirt -strictly qualified by surface, MOW was not) 2x. I doubt any other horse has had more than 3x on the list but I’d have to check. Also, MOW was on the American record list STILL for 1973. And, interesting note about Belmont: almost every single distance track record from sprints through 1-1/2 miles was broken and also tied in 1973 itself. Amazing.
@garyevans4524 Жыл бұрын
No way the greatest secretariat hands down
@krism2649 Жыл бұрын
Secretariat was racing on anabolic steroids. He still lost 4 races. Man o' War was chosen Horse of the Century with good reason.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
Perennial argument. I think MOW was the greater, definitely more consistent and even set a record of time records! Sec did not break records quite the level that MOW did. Certainly MOW did not need any special equipment to run, either. In the pure sense MOW beats Sec, most of the time.
@MrJabbaker1954 Жыл бұрын
2:24 1/2 mile time 1973 Belmont, enough said.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
Failed to break Kelso’s and & Fiddle Isle’s respective absolute world records. ;-)
@alsmith4807 Жыл бұрын
I hate doing this on many other comments section I have explained in depth & detail of the Great Champions of the late 60's & 70's I was personally around them Secretariat (never a fan) Forego RUFFIAN Seattle Slew ALYDAR Affirmed Spectacular Bid All Along Fort Marcy Key to the Mint etc all great Champions BUT! there was & is only one LEGEND (allow me to say a gift from GOD ALMIGHTY) that Legend is MAN O' WAR None his equal I know you are hooked on the above as I was until I moved to Saratoga and did research NOBODY and I mean NOBODY ever came close besides a LEGEND you can honestly say HE was IMMORTAL
@haroldsmith3035 Жыл бұрын
He would have eaten dust if he faced Secretariat.
@JerryNelson8282 ай бұрын
Not!
@mikewhite6288 Жыл бұрын
Man o war was built like secretariat. It would have been one hellva a race.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
Actually MOW was very square, had huge forward-placed shoulders and big yet thin hips. He even naturally held his head straight up unlike any horse besides his sire. Secretariat built more like a quarter horse, very beefy and a bit long.
@PeggyBownes-jq7nc Жыл бұрын
The King to all racehorses. ❤ Beautiful and perfect specimen
@MAG-li5jo Жыл бұрын
Dave sounds great here.
@joeyrichards374 Жыл бұрын
MF can't sing!
@ChrisB-vb9hh Жыл бұрын
I would say the greatest filly/mare that I’ve ever seen in my time watching horse racing! 💯
@clareblakeman83 Жыл бұрын
Man o War....... The absolute greatest race horse there ever was....bar none. There will NEVER be another like him........A streaking comet from the heavens he was in all his glory and our amazement
@janetgallo5720 Жыл бұрын
Very handsome
@thebronx-kr9ns Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm saying this but she was better than Flightline at least she had 20 races meanwhile flightline have but six races
@stevecobb9230 Жыл бұрын
Secretariat is spinning in his grave.
@michaelshifflett76 Жыл бұрын
Dave sets iit straight.
@foley15136 Жыл бұрын
Dave is to Dave fans as Christ is to Christians. He can sing like shit, dress like a hobo that raided the dumpster of a thrift store, dance a soft shoe, and they still want to worship him. Plus he stops every show to yell at the audience like he’s a tough guy. Sammy fans on the other hand will say that Dave was good back in his day, but they prefer Sam. It’s night and day between the fan groups. One is oddly a bunch a zealots. The other are rock fans that like both, but prefer the other. I have no idea how you can see Dave’s late performances and think “He’s still got it!!!”. The VH’s were desperate at the end. Sad thing for one of the best rock bands ever, that had the best guitarist, and arguably the best drummer.
@andylaw4988 Жыл бұрын
I have said this many times before...say what ya want about Dave, he is over the top , he is ALWAYS ON and blah blah blah. He is also a HUGE REASON Van Halen was able to attain superstars. His antics, showmanship, fronting and melodies were a beyond HUGE contribution. The Mighty EVH was otherworldly and Dave was the icing. R.I.P. Edward Van Halen
@terrielynn591 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Ive never seen a compilation of pics and film of this greatest of horses. Long live Man O War!
@jackbell5206 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but he would lose to Secretariat in the Belmont.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. Too bad Sec lovers always hang their hats on a single race, and basically nothing else. Scientifically that is unsound.
@jackbell520611 ай бұрын
@@theOlLineRebel he set records in all 3 triple crown races that all stand 50 years later so your statement makes no sense.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
@@jackbell5206 Those are track records (one, very retroactively). It's great, don't get me wrong. But it's not the end-all be-all (specifically his Belmont, which invariably is the only thing mentioned in quickie comments on the horse). MOW summary for 1 season of 11 starts: 1 ETR, 2 NTR, 2 NAR, and 3 NWR. Sec 1 year of 12 starts: 1 ETR, 3 NTR (1 retro), 1 EWR, and 1 NWR-dirt only (retro; not recognized so in '73, just as American dirt). MOW was still on the American dirt record list in '73. MOW also was 5x on the (unqualified) American time records list by his last race 1920. A feat rarely if ever done in history.
@jackbell520611 ай бұрын
@@theOlLineRebel I'm not discounting MOW, there's no doubt he was a great horse but statistics mean little, otherwise betting would be a sure thing. I have my favorite and you have yours and nothing will ever be proven without an actual race, and obviously that will never happen.
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
@@jackbell5206 Definitely can agree with you on that. (Except "statistics" include data points such as the times of races.) We all have our opinions; I just happen to think MOW would win most of the time, any given (dirt) race. There is no doubt Secretariat is way up there. Funny how we really only argue who is the very greatest, out of all this hundreds of seriously great horses.
@alsmith4807 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to ask this question @ 53 secs Who is the JOCKEY PETTING HIS MUZZLE? is it LOFTUS OR KUMMER? anybody know?
@theOlLineRebel11 ай бұрын
Is that actually MOW? He didn’t even have nose straps from what I recall. As it is, the jock is definitely not in the Riddle colors. Not even close to mistake. It could be one of his jockeys saying hello to him, but I am not sure the horse is even MOW (kind of like that “foal” photo, which clearly the man is from the ‘40s, not the teens).
@MapleSyrupPoet Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, majestic horse 🐎 ✨
@johnwalsh3215 Жыл бұрын
Oh come on Zenyatta’s 2009 win is the greatest ever! Last to first, she came from double digits back, only mare to win the classic. Alphabet Soup upsetting Cigar that has to make the top 10
@samuelwilliams6313 Жыл бұрын
What would they get if you breed zenyatta with flight line?
@samuelwilliams6313 Жыл бұрын
I have one question do you think she could have beaten winningcolors?
@ustulo3488 Жыл бұрын
Many of these horses and editions of the BC are legendary, but the only one I watched live on TV was Zenyatta coming up short by a head to Blame. You can literally hear people screaming like the world was coming to an end in the stands as Zenyatta was trying to close the gap with Blame down the stretch after being 18 lengths behind early in the race. I was huge fan of Zenyatta and always will be...and this is her greatest race she ever ran even after being unbeaten in the first 19 of her career.
@DavidMiller-jo5qb Жыл бұрын
Think about it..this is how people get seriously hurt..Dave stopped the B.S.
@iheartpanic00 Жыл бұрын
She didn't lose to Blame
@StFidjnr Жыл бұрын
3:15 Jerry Bailey knows how to kill the crowd because he turned Santa Antia park to mute
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Her last race, a few feet more she would have had it. She gave us so much joy.
How many hands was this legend...? He looks 17 hands at least in this clip. Stunning
who is the white horse in this race!
Thanks! Great footage!. I knew, played with + loved Secretariat, was on the far turn at his Derby, but Man O War won by 100 lengths,never ran full out, only lost once due to his jockey. Never had a bad race. You can tell, like Secretariat, that he had presence + knew he was somebody, loved cameras.
And that's how to handle idiot's, thanks Dave for not skipping a beat.
My top five greatest racehorse's of all time no cap and doesn't matter the sex or DNA. .#1.dr.fager .#2.zenyatta. #3.rachelalexander.#3mano'war. #.4.bigred. .#.5.ruffian
Great memory at this show with my dad. We were far back. This is a good angle on it.
To call her the best is a bit far fetched. Australian Mare "Black Caviar" between 2009 and her retirement 2013, won 25 straight without ever loosing a race. also Australian Mare "Winx" won 37 of 43 career starts, including, between May 2015 and her retirement in April 2019, her last 33 races in succession. "Zenyatta" the greatest? definitely debatable. Been a lot of great horses around the world.
And he raced on tracks that weren't improved as today's. He carried more weight than competitors. Can't compare his racing conditions to the efficiency of modern tracks. And more advanced food of today's horses. And medical care.
...and unwillingness to put weight on anyone, much less true handicapping margins.
Zenyatta is still overrated , always beat the same horses and that classic was weak
cryin my eyes.. Eddie .. like i lost an old friend.. Him n his boy.. DLR is a neccessity
Zenyatta gets my bid for first and second. Her 2009 race was unbelievable but 2010 against an even more loaded field of males she made up 18 lengths behind from the backstretch and overcame being held up by Quality Road at the final turn and still was running Blame to the ground and would have passed him the next step past the wire and would have kept going! She beat every male she faced and just needed a better ride in 2010 to knock Blame out. I still feel sad as it was said Zenyatta seemed confused as she was led back to the paddock instead of the winners circle! She had never lost before in 20 races.
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He will NEVER be less than the perfect animal God made. Carried 138 lbs Wore steel shoes not aluminum. Ran every three days in many outings NEVER truly extended himself in any race. Into the stretch of every race, his jockey would stand in the stirrups trying to slow him so not to embarrass his competition. His times in all his races never showed his real ability. Despite record times, Man O' War still was never let to run full out. The track today has been made for horses to run faster. Look it up. All that is TRUE.
Mine to, I also read that book. What they put him through no one can ever match him. People do these fake comparisons, without taking in account all the weight that was add on him. I don't like the horse racing or show horse industry because a lot of animals are sbused.abused. most of the greats of today are his great great etc. grand horses.
At least there are some old photos and awful film footage….mostly in retirement. There’s no film footage of him running down the length of a stretch …..only short snippets. Why didn’t anyone film him running an entire race or at least the stretch run? I know it was 1920 but they had the camera technology. I always found that odd. He was supposed to be the greatest race horse of the time, but no one thought to film him running over a distance? Always found that strange. I’ll bet someone has film footage like that but it’s sitting, locked away in a storage box. There has to be more then what’s here on KZread?
Man O' War and Secretariat were heads above any other race horses that ever lived. There will probably never be another horse as great as these two were. Big, Strong, and fast. Would have been amazing to have seen them race each other. I will never compare the two, as in my mind they were kindered spirits and both beautiful animals. Interesting they were both nicknamed "Big Red" I bet if you had been able to see them side by side, they would have been almost identicle.
Great horse, but EVERY horse is second fiddle to the great Secretariet!!
Man O' War was no freak, & to call him that is disrespectful & insulting. Which idiot wrote that copy??
Pure magnificence ❤ I'm also happy to notice, that in most images I've ever seen of Big Red, whether still photos or motion picture / film... the owner / trainer/ whoever made such decisions, seem(s) to have found a simple bit such as a snaffle bit, perfectly effective. No need for any more painful, harsh type of bit
You’ll also notice he never, ever needed special equipment in any race. No blinkers, no shadow roll, not a single bandage, not even a nose strap! Pure racing machine, all about running, no extra control needed.
majestic!
ManO'War was a great horse, but how does anyone dare to say he was better than the great Secretariet who holds the track record in ALL THREE Triple Crown races FIFTY YEARS ON!! In a side by side comparison of Secretariet vs ManO'War, Secretariet beat ManO'War in every catagory!! CASE CLOSED!
Secretariat lost 4 races and was racing on anabolic steroids.
No, not case closed. It IS hard to compare very different eras, (was printed in articles in 1920 also) but note it is also hard to compare daily on different tracks. Hence Beyer Speed figures, etc. so your times don’t mean much in direct comparison…and MOW has faster times in a few, if you want to use that argument. MOW is probably the greatest record-setter ever. When he finished 1920, he was on the American Record list 5x. Before him, that hadn’t happened even more than 2x. Sec was only at best on the American (Dirt -strictly qualified by surface, MOW was not) 2x. I doubt any other horse has had more than 3x on the list but I’d have to check. Also, MOW was on the American record list STILL for 1973. And, interesting note about Belmont: almost every single distance track record from sprints through 1-1/2 miles was broken and also tied in 1973 itself. Amazing.
No way the greatest secretariat hands down
Secretariat was racing on anabolic steroids. He still lost 4 races. Man o' War was chosen Horse of the Century with good reason.
Perennial argument. I think MOW was the greater, definitely more consistent and even set a record of time records! Sec did not break records quite the level that MOW did. Certainly MOW did not need any special equipment to run, either. In the pure sense MOW beats Sec, most of the time.
2:24 1/2 mile time 1973 Belmont, enough said.
Failed to break Kelso’s and & Fiddle Isle’s respective absolute world records. ;-)
I hate doing this on many other comments section I have explained in depth & detail of the Great Champions of the late 60's & 70's I was personally around them Secretariat (never a fan) Forego RUFFIAN Seattle Slew ALYDAR Affirmed Spectacular Bid All Along Fort Marcy Key to the Mint etc all great Champions BUT! there was & is only one LEGEND (allow me to say a gift from GOD ALMIGHTY) that Legend is MAN O' WAR None his equal I know you are hooked on the above as I was until I moved to Saratoga and did research NOBODY and I mean NOBODY ever came close besides a LEGEND you can honestly say HE was IMMORTAL
He would have eaten dust if he faced Secretariat.
Not!
Man o war was built like secretariat. It would have been one hellva a race.
Actually MOW was very square, had huge forward-placed shoulders and big yet thin hips. He even naturally held his head straight up unlike any horse besides his sire. Secretariat built more like a quarter horse, very beefy and a bit long.
The King to all racehorses. ❤ Beautiful and perfect specimen
Dave sounds great here.
MF can't sing!
I would say the greatest filly/mare that I’ve ever seen in my time watching horse racing! 💯
Man o War....... The absolute greatest race horse there ever was....bar none. There will NEVER be another like him........A streaking comet from the heavens he was in all his glory and our amazement
Very handsome
I can't believe I'm saying this but she was better than Flightline at least she had 20 races meanwhile flightline have but six races
Secretariat is spinning in his grave.
Dave sets iit straight.
Dave is to Dave fans as Christ is to Christians. He can sing like shit, dress like a hobo that raided the dumpster of a thrift store, dance a soft shoe, and they still want to worship him. Plus he stops every show to yell at the audience like he’s a tough guy. Sammy fans on the other hand will say that Dave was good back in his day, but they prefer Sam. It’s night and day between the fan groups. One is oddly a bunch a zealots. The other are rock fans that like both, but prefer the other. I have no idea how you can see Dave’s late performances and think “He’s still got it!!!”. The VH’s were desperate at the end. Sad thing for one of the best rock bands ever, that had the best guitarist, and arguably the best drummer.
I have said this many times before...say what ya want about Dave, he is over the top , he is ALWAYS ON and blah blah blah. He is also a HUGE REASON Van Halen was able to attain superstars. His antics, showmanship, fronting and melodies were a beyond HUGE contribution. The Mighty EVH was otherworldly and Dave was the icing. R.I.P. Edward Van Halen
Thank you for posting this. Ive never seen a compilation of pics and film of this greatest of horses. Long live Man O War!
Sorry but he would lose to Secretariat in the Belmont.
Not necessarily. Too bad Sec lovers always hang their hats on a single race, and basically nothing else. Scientifically that is unsound.
@@theOlLineRebel he set records in all 3 triple crown races that all stand 50 years later so your statement makes no sense.
@@jackbell5206 Those are track records (one, very retroactively). It's great, don't get me wrong. But it's not the end-all be-all (specifically his Belmont, which invariably is the only thing mentioned in quickie comments on the horse). MOW summary for 1 season of 11 starts: 1 ETR, 2 NTR, 2 NAR, and 3 NWR. Sec 1 year of 12 starts: 1 ETR, 3 NTR (1 retro), 1 EWR, and 1 NWR-dirt only (retro; not recognized so in '73, just as American dirt). MOW was still on the American dirt record list in '73. MOW also was 5x on the (unqualified) American time records list by his last race 1920. A feat rarely if ever done in history.
@@theOlLineRebel I'm not discounting MOW, there's no doubt he was a great horse but statistics mean little, otherwise betting would be a sure thing. I have my favorite and you have yours and nothing will ever be proven without an actual race, and obviously that will never happen.
@@jackbell5206 Definitely can agree with you on that. (Except "statistics" include data points such as the times of races.) We all have our opinions; I just happen to think MOW would win most of the time, any given (dirt) race. There is no doubt Secretariat is way up there. Funny how we really only argue who is the very greatest, out of all this hundreds of seriously great horses.
Always wanted to ask this question @ 53 secs Who is the JOCKEY PETTING HIS MUZZLE? is it LOFTUS OR KUMMER? anybody know?
Is that actually MOW? He didn’t even have nose straps from what I recall. As it is, the jock is definitely not in the Riddle colors. Not even close to mistake. It could be one of his jockeys saying hello to him, but I am not sure the horse is even MOW (kind of like that “foal” photo, which clearly the man is from the ‘40s, not the teens).
Beautiful, majestic horse 🐎 ✨
Oh come on Zenyatta’s 2009 win is the greatest ever! Last to first, she came from double digits back, only mare to win the classic. Alphabet Soup upsetting Cigar that has to make the top 10
What would they get if you breed zenyatta with flight line?
I have one question do you think she could have beaten winningcolors?
Many of these horses and editions of the BC are legendary, but the only one I watched live on TV was Zenyatta coming up short by a head to Blame. You can literally hear people screaming like the world was coming to an end in the stands as Zenyatta was trying to close the gap with Blame down the stretch after being 18 lengths behind early in the race. I was huge fan of Zenyatta and always will be...and this is her greatest race she ever ran even after being unbeaten in the first 19 of her career.
Think about it..this is how people get seriously hurt..Dave stopped the B.S.
She didn't lose to Blame
3:15 Jerry Bailey knows how to kill the crowd because he turned Santa Antia park to mute