51:17 people empathised with HSTS men who quietly kept to themselves and the gay scene. Straight men’s Autogynephilia is a real threat to all children, girls and women in particular. The AGP group commits far more sex crime per capita than regular adult penis havers.
@woman4womenkids54721 минут бұрын
We know how terribly children given Lupron for precocious puberty suffered, and they actually did get to go through real puberty at a normal age.
@woman4womenkids54731 минут бұрын
Proper psychology can assist people to come to terms with reality. Destroying and sterilising children’s bodies for rumination is outrageous. Men living as women impacts actual women. Boys claiming to be girls very adversely impact girl children and no one gives a damn about large gamete havers.
@ginaweith947516 сағат бұрын
This was excellent. The interviewer had some new angles to explore through his questions. His thinking is different from most people who interview HJ. I appreciate his thoughtfulness and imagination/ creativity. This wasn’t a typical HJ interview. I loved hearing HJs answers to these questions especially with respect to how do we manage this in a pluralistic society. Much to think about.
@sherylwhite220117 сағат бұрын
Trans people already have the same rights as every other person in the population (in western societies). And the claims the activists make about this and all the statements about hatred and violence are lies. A hallmark of transactivism is to manipulate language and tell blatant lies.
@sherylwhite220118 сағат бұрын
I just kept thinking He cant have any children orhave anything much to do with children. Also he seems to be submerged in a very intellectual approach to this, not at all in touch with the living reality.
@voices_vary20 сағат бұрын
There are more and more unisex restrooms now when a bathroom is private. The only problem is that men are messier and women have forfeited cleaner environments. Yuck.
@Bec010720 сағат бұрын
The medical scandal of our generation. Those poor children.
@gabrielmills2361Күн бұрын
Such a pleasure -- and a relief -- to hear this calm and compassionate voice of reason, against the frenzied and aggressive narcissism of transactivist-driven demands for "trans rights" -- and to hell with anyone else's rights. Thank you Helen Joyce, and please keep talking and writing.
@voices_varyКүн бұрын
I am embarrassed that--as an American--the US is the most powerful agent of this highly damaging movement.
@voices_varyКүн бұрын
Excellent point about organizations morphing to other issues after success in one issue. The survival of the organization and funding sources become the primary motivation, even if the members don't fully grasp that.
@loganjames3789Күн бұрын
Helen Joyce is a clear thinker and can pick through faulty arguments impressively well. She covers so much ground here. Her only fault, imv, is her feminism. She completely ignores the contributions of conservative women to this terrible situation. She does have progressive leanings. Noone is perfect.
@pcdm43145Күн бұрын
It's strange... I'd never seen a picture of Yascha Mounk before this video, but he looks pretty much the way I always imagined he looked like, hahaha.
@soniaess28Күн бұрын
The position she has arrived at is very good.
@huguettebourgeois63662 күн бұрын
no no no
@dominionphilosophy36982 күн бұрын
Marginalised people = cannon fodder for the Left.
@dominionphilosophy36982 күн бұрын
There is no difference. Both the Left and Woke are about POWER, it’s abuse and authoritarianism. Both will be crushed in the next 25 years. You had your chance, you abused.
@bcazz52022 күн бұрын
Yeah, that ending was a bit abrupt.
@freidamaverick25352 күн бұрын
Another superb Helen Joyce interview.
@arandorapress75613 күн бұрын
Stop saying "gender" when you mean sex. They want to pass as the other sex. They don't change sex and gender is an ideology. The whole notion is ridiculous.
@user-gu7lv9gk8m3 күн бұрын
Of course the left is not woke, liberals are. Liberals gave us human rights, women's rights, and LGBT rights. The left gave us Stalin and Mao.
@user-yc5lb8fw5r3 күн бұрын
Gay
@m_a_i_l_l_i_w3 күн бұрын
Biggest medical scandal since lobotomies. Helen is one of the voices of reason.
@user-yc5lb8fw5r3 күн бұрын
Sigh
@lisaobrien73303 күн бұрын
Helen Joyce ! I just adore her, I could listen to her all day.
@kelleyfrench96633 күн бұрын
Helen Joyce can single-handedly save the world. Her moral compass is exceptional.
@BTphosheezy3 күн бұрын
I just love listening to her. She's so refreshing😍♥️
@PattisKarriereKarten4 күн бұрын
So nochmal auf Deutsch zum Selbstbestimmungsgesetz: Was du nicht verstehst: das Hausrecht ist KEIN vernünftiger Kompromiss! Männer haben in Spanien bereits versucht in ein Frauenhaus zu gelangen indem sie sich zu Frauen erklärt und Zutritt verlangt haben! Man verlangt von Frauenhäusern diese Männer selbständig abzuweisen, sich gegenüber deren Drohungen zu wehren und evtl. Zuschüsse zu verlieren wenn sie keine Männer die angeblich Frauen sind rein lassen. Außerdem wird das neben des alten Namens mit bis zu 10.000 Euro bestraft. Wie soll man der Polizei oder wem auch immer akkurat beschreiben wer sich Zutritt verschaffen will wenn man weder Geschlecht noch Namen nennen darf?! Weder Polizei noch BKA werden über die Änderung informiert! Wie soll die Polizei Personen die untertauchen wollen finden?! Dieses Nonsens Gesetz hat dermaßen katastrophale Konsequenzen für uns ALLE!!! Es muss WEG. Hast du dich überhaupt tiefer damit beschäftigt?! So „close“ kann der Blick dann nicht gewesen sein!
@PattisKarriereKarten4 күн бұрын
Yascha‘s book „The identity trap“ was great, so it astonishes me that he really doesn’t seem to understand that there really is no such thing as a legitimate trans person and the movement is also not legitimate because they consist of fetishists and other persons with an agenda that has nothing to do with equal rights. The first group was basically made trans by society and the second group is a political totalitarian movement that wants power and push men’s rights to take out their fetish in public.
@ratonsito28364 күн бұрын
I think he is playing devil's advocate here.
@SandraEaston-Lawrence4 күн бұрын
What a terrible interlocutor this man is! He responded to only one or two of HJ's comments, and then to interrupt her. Talking to him must've been like shouting down a well. He needs to work on his social skills if he's wanting to make a go of this work.
@brandyhaywood62564 күн бұрын
Helen Joyce is the voice of common sense and science - and ofcourse truth. No one can change their biology. It’s not a philosophical exercise - that reduces the issues to something really weak and unrealistic. The health consequences of all of these medical procedures are absolutely shocking and the treatments have 100% failure rate.
@miranda53404 күн бұрын
Love her
@markshepperson36034 күн бұрын
HJ 4 PM
@user-wc3dw8wk9q4 күн бұрын
What you don't understand, Yascha, is that the trans activists are not interested in a compromise. Their activist playbook clearly states that the take over of women's organizations and spaces is the what they demand.
@vegaa15 күн бұрын
Don't listen to Helen Joyce speak unless you're in the mood for being reminded about how sorry our politicians are. Here is a woman who knows what it means to prefer dignity and reason over compassion. She's rational, resilient, and just right. And the scariest thing about all this is that there are a lot of people (mostly on the left) who want to shut her down, take away her speech rights, or even imprison her. Instead, this should be viewed by all members of Congress. Bravo Yascha for asking penetrating questions.
@freidamaverick25352 күн бұрын
I feel that Helen Joyce is incredibly compassionate, and she demonstrates how to apply rational reason for a dignified, compassionate outcome for all. I agree - politicians absolutely should listen to her, and take notes!
@SuperJoeyMusic5 күн бұрын
Seriously, let her speak.
@ERH-ph5gb5 күн бұрын
Around minute 53: I think you, as a moderator, are fundamentally misunderstanding something. "Trans people" have never been excluded, the eccentrics, as I call them - are people who go against the norm and WANT to - have always found their passions, professions and places where they could live out their inclinations. They have created their own scenes. These were often not ordinary biographies, but unusual ones. And that is also the goal of all those who don't want to live an ordinary life. They have never been actively excluded because they have taken themselves out of the norm and not without a certain pride and vanity. Why people are now pretending that they are an excluded group is completely far-fetched. If you want to be and represent something special in life, then you DON'T want to catch up with the normies, then you ARE determined to have an existence that doesn't want that. Modernity, and the 80s and 90s in particular, showed an extreme openness towards anything extraordinary. Just think of the Love Parade and Burning Man and all the artistic and musical events around the world. The many professions and opportunities to get into the artist, actor- and music scene. But you have to be willing to pick up a profession, to work hard for that extraordinary life, in the same way you have to work and educate yourself in ordinary lives. I highly disagree with the notion that those "trans"-people were fighting in the same way gay people fought. I think it is actually individuals who suffer from their state of being, and they themselves need to find support to become more happy and satisfied with what condition they have. If they are willing, they will find the support they need, if they can articulate themselves and communicate in a proper way.
@eoiny3 күн бұрын
Well said!!
@dreimalnein225 күн бұрын
Yascha seems not completely informed entering this conversation. And didn't take in so many thought provoking statements of Helen. Rather ignored them. So it's really dull to end the conversation where he decided to. The only brave thing to me is publicly shed one's own failure to comprehend and reply.
@dreimalnein225 күн бұрын
Yascha seems not completely informed here. Really dull to run away from Helen's last statement!
@SandraEaston-Lawrence5 күн бұрын
He really doesn't get it.
@ThePontiacBandit9115 күн бұрын
37:35 Like i always say: you can’t just take a bite out of the ideology. You gotta eat the whole thing. Which (among other things) includes rapists in female prisons.
@ERH-ph5gb5 күн бұрын
You cannot possibly know about manhood or womanhood, if you are not going fully into being one. You will only begin to understand it when you have gone through all the stages of life as a man or woman. This process takes a lifetime. To think that you can interrupt or even change it, and to do this to children, is to deprive them of a whole lifetime in which to realise their femininity or masculinity. What it means to be a man and a woman can only be said in retrospect, what it is like to have lived as such for thirty, forty and fifty years. It is completely impossible to know this beforehand. All the beautiful and less beautiful experiences of a sexual relationship allow a person to mature; they need both in order to be able to assess the other person. Sexual relationships require experience in sex but also in relationship. Kids cannot and will not be able to have a pre-notion about that. To say otherwise, is to lie to them.
@harrietcanwell20585 күн бұрын
Helen is admirably prolific in her output of interviews. There are always different angles she provides - all damning of so called “ gender affirming medicine” i.e. child abuse. Helen will prevail - one day she will achieve mainstream media coverage & it’s an absolute scandal that none of them have so far given her access!
@StuartGrant-fm6ti5 күн бұрын
I'd love to know how many people actually anylize why they like something.. I'm really not sure most people do that, why would you unless you felt the need to justify it to someone else..??
@Schatzie19645 күн бұрын
Helen Joyce is the most intelligent and measured voice on this issue. I never get tired of listening to her and I hope her voice continues to be heard so we can stop the damage to young people.
@susanhill8334 күн бұрын
She is LYING to you. The Cass review was discredited as greatly FLAWED, Even Cass herself has said so. Here is the REAL truth about Gay and Transgenderism: It is NOT about chromosomes (the XX or the XY) or the BODY, it is about the STRUCTURE of the human brain. A Doctor with a Ph.D. in Genetics and his team did research on the STRUCTURE of the human brain. They studied the brain of straight women and straight men, gay women, and gay men, as well as transgendered women and transgendered men. What they found is this, the STRUCTURE of the brain between a male and a female is as different from each other as night is from the day. They also found that there are two distinct and separate areas of the brain that deal with sexuality and gender. They found that the area for sexual orientation in gay men is STRUCTURED the same as in straight women, NOT straight men, and in gay women, that area is STRUCTURED the same as in straight men, NOT straight women. Likewise, the center in the brain that deals with gender identity is the same, in transgender women (male to a female) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-women, (born and identify as female) NOT cis-men, (born and identify as male), and in transgender men, (female to male) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-men, NOT cis-women. It has been STRUCTURED this way since BEFORE birth. Two other teams in different parts of the world doing the same study all independent of each other found the exact same results. When a baby is first formed in the womb it is formed 100% female. Then after a few weeks, a signal from the father's genes tells the baby's body, the body only, to change and become male. The baby goes on for a few more weeks this way until it can produce a massive amount of the male hormone testosterone, which then tells the brain to change into the male pattern, such a massive amount will never be seen in that Child's life again except at the onset of puberty. If for some reason that baby does not get that massive dose of testosterone in the womb then the brain, or parts of it, continues to develop in the female pattern. Or in the case of gay women or Trans men, at some time in the mother's pregnancy that baby received a small dose of testosterone at the wrong time, either the mother ingested it somehow or her body produced it or the baby’s own body produced it all of which can and have happened. When a baby is being formed in the womb, any variation, even in the slightest, of the chemicals can cause birth defects. You have seen these birth defects in babies being born all the time, some born blind, or deaf, born with missing limbs, or heart problems, or even with a spine outside of the body, and many, many others. So why is it so hard for the right to believe that a person’s BRAIN can be STRUCTURED in the opposite way from what their bodies say they should be? You can believe in all other birth defects so why not this? I will use transgender women for this example, even though the body is male she likes all the same things a cis-gender woman likes, her emotional likes, wants and needs are the same as any woman's, and the way she sees the world is the same. Her interactions are the same, everything about her is the same as any cis-gender woman except the body. Sexual characteristics (the body) are set by the genes (the XX or the XY) but Gender is set by the STRUCTURE of the BRAIN, this has been proven through sound scientific study. Gender is how one see themselves and their place in the world and how they interact with it. If your body is set one way and your brain the other it causes a disharmony of mind and body (gender dysphoria) it is not now or ever has been a DELUSION or a PERVERSION or a MENTAL ILLNESS. When someone is going through life with this Dysphoria their life is a living hell, when people tell them that they can't be WHO they are inside because that person is uncomfortable with it then you are forcing the trans person to live in severe PAIN, Anxiety, and Depression, a PAIN that having your arms and legs cut off with a dull rusty hacksaw without any anesthetics seem like nothing in comparison, a pain that kills, LITERALLY KILLS. Think of everything you like and want as a man or a woman, everything that makes you, you, and then think how you would feel if you were constantly told that you can't have it, or be it, or do the things you love, because you are the opposite of who and what you are now, that you must bury everything that makes you, you because other people don't like it because it makes them uncomfortable, If constantly you were told that you were evil and dammed because you are who you are, denied a job, or a home, insulted, belittled, assaulted and even targeted to be KILLED just because you exist, how would you feel? Women, think how would you feel if you were forced to live, think, told to feel like and be a man, And told that you MUST do what men do, how men do it, see things the way men see them in order to be a man and you MUST be a man and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? Men, think how you would feel if you were forced to live, think, feel, and be a woman? Told that you MUST do what women do, how women do it, see things the way women see them in order to be a woman and you MUST be a woman and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? A trans woman does NOT fit, in a man’s social circle the same way a man does and yet they are expected to if they do not go through transition, they are expected to think, feel, and act just like any cis-gender man in that circle, but they can’t because their brain is STRUCTURED differently, so they are insulted, belittled beat on ridiculed, and humiliated by these men, constantly, all because their brain is STRUCTURED the same way a cis-gender woman’s brain is STRUCTURED. With their brain being STRUCTURED that way they would fit into a woman’s social circle but with their bodies being male, again they don’t fit in and they are excluded. They want to wear the same outfits the women wear because their brains tell them they should be just like them. Everything inside them SCREAMS that they are just like the people who are of the opposite gender and yet they are NOT allowed to be because other people are uncomfortable with them doing so, so they are FORCED to live in severe PAIN, anxiety, and depression. Trans people just want to be accepted for who they are, they want and are deserving of the very same rights as everyone else, no more and NO LESS. Here is the truth about the road to transition: First, the person MUST go to therapy, no therapy no transition, they will meet with a therapist who has knowledge and experience with transgender people. During this time they will begin social transitioning, social transitioning is nothing more than changing one's name and pronouns, and appearance such as hairstyle and clothing. Then after a number of sessions with the therapist (usually about a year) if the Dysphoria continues, and depending on the age of the person they may be given puberty blockers, (which are reversible). Then after many more sessions with the therapist and again if the Dysphoria continues they may be given hormones, it is these that have irreversible effects. Last: when they reach the age of CONSENT (CONSENT, NOT A KID, NO ONE IS DOING SURGERY ON KIDS) and if the Dysphoria continues, and if they have lived in the gender of their choice for a MINIMUM of 1 full year, and have letters from two therapists with one having a P.HD in psychology with both therapists having seen the person over a period of time they may get a consult from the surgeon, and there is usually a long waiting list for that, after the consult if the surgeon agrees then you get on the long waiting list for the surgery. IF ANYONE TELLS YOU DIFFERENTLY FROM THIS THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. Definition of a woman: How you define a woman is by how she sees herself, a woman is one who sees herself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a woman, thinks as a woman, acts as a woman, and lives as a woman, then what is the harm to treat and respect her as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Definition of a Man: How you define a man is by how he sees himself, a man is one who sees himself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a man, thinks as a man, acts as a man, and lives as a man, then what is the harm to treat and respect him as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you have a need to feel morally superior to others, “pull the beam out of your own eyes before you try to pull the mote out of another’s”. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you don’t understand it and it fills you with fear, fear of something that is different from what you are used to, different from YOU, either one goes forward or one stagnates and dies, you limit your thinking and can’t or won’t learn, grow, and adapt. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you just want to hate and hurt others, it gives you a sick thrill, and you use the LGBTQ as an excuse to do so. But ALL of you who do these are small, weak, insecure, monumentally stupid, and utterly pathetic excuses of human beings.
@dreimalnein226 күн бұрын
30:39 NO! NOOOOO! Dear Yascha, noooooooo! i get disappointed, i am giving up on you in this conversation temporary. Integrate what Helen said, not ignore it and go back. Noooo!
@colinellicott97376 күн бұрын
Do transsexuals think they should be first on the lifeboats? When the ship is going down, it’s adult human females and children into the lifeboats first. Not men. Not homosexuals. Not bisexual men. Not transvestite men. Not transexual men. Not intersex men. Not queer men. Women and children go first, men protect women from danger, a man in any garb with any surgery is not a woman, and vice versa. When the ship is going down it’s women, and children first. Not men.
@r.c.36146 күн бұрын
Love her. Wish she was my mother ❤
@simama6666 күн бұрын
LaRell's detransitioning story is another heartbreaking one. For Heaven's sake, my son was convinced he could/would marry me when he grew up.
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51:17 people empathised with HSTS men who quietly kept to themselves and the gay scene. Straight men’s Autogynephilia is a real threat to all children, girls and women in particular. The AGP group commits far more sex crime per capita than regular adult penis havers.
We know how terribly children given Lupron for precocious puberty suffered, and they actually did get to go through real puberty at a normal age.
Proper psychology can assist people to come to terms with reality. Destroying and sterilising children’s bodies for rumination is outrageous. Men living as women impacts actual women. Boys claiming to be girls very adversely impact girl children and no one gives a damn about large gamete havers.
This was excellent. The interviewer had some new angles to explore through his questions. His thinking is different from most people who interview HJ. I appreciate his thoughtfulness and imagination/ creativity. This wasn’t a typical HJ interview. I loved hearing HJs answers to these questions especially with respect to how do we manage this in a pluralistic society. Much to think about.
Trans people already have the same rights as every other person in the population (in western societies). And the claims the activists make about this and all the statements about hatred and violence are lies. A hallmark of transactivism is to manipulate language and tell blatant lies.
I just kept thinking He cant have any children orhave anything much to do with children. Also he seems to be submerged in a very intellectual approach to this, not at all in touch with the living reality.
There are more and more unisex restrooms now when a bathroom is private. The only problem is that men are messier and women have forfeited cleaner environments. Yuck.
The medical scandal of our generation. Those poor children.
Such a pleasure -- and a relief -- to hear this calm and compassionate voice of reason, against the frenzied and aggressive narcissism of transactivist-driven demands for "trans rights" -- and to hell with anyone else's rights. Thank you Helen Joyce, and please keep talking and writing.
I am embarrassed that--as an American--the US is the most powerful agent of this highly damaging movement.
Excellent point about organizations morphing to other issues after success in one issue. The survival of the organization and funding sources become the primary motivation, even if the members don't fully grasp that.
Helen Joyce is a clear thinker and can pick through faulty arguments impressively well. She covers so much ground here. Her only fault, imv, is her feminism. She completely ignores the contributions of conservative women to this terrible situation. She does have progressive leanings. Noone is perfect.
It's strange... I'd never seen a picture of Yascha Mounk before this video, but he looks pretty much the way I always imagined he looked like, hahaha.
The position she has arrived at is very good.
no no no
Marginalised people = cannon fodder for the Left.
There is no difference. Both the Left and Woke are about POWER, it’s abuse and authoritarianism. Both will be crushed in the next 25 years. You had your chance, you abused.
Yeah, that ending was a bit abrupt.
Another superb Helen Joyce interview.
Stop saying "gender" when you mean sex. They want to pass as the other sex. They don't change sex and gender is an ideology. The whole notion is ridiculous.
Of course the left is not woke, liberals are. Liberals gave us human rights, women's rights, and LGBT rights. The left gave us Stalin and Mao.
Gay
Biggest medical scandal since lobotomies. Helen is one of the voices of reason.
Sigh
Helen Joyce ! I just adore her, I could listen to her all day.
Helen Joyce can single-handedly save the world. Her moral compass is exceptional.
I just love listening to her. She's so refreshing😍♥️
So nochmal auf Deutsch zum Selbstbestimmungsgesetz: Was du nicht verstehst: das Hausrecht ist KEIN vernünftiger Kompromiss! Männer haben in Spanien bereits versucht in ein Frauenhaus zu gelangen indem sie sich zu Frauen erklärt und Zutritt verlangt haben! Man verlangt von Frauenhäusern diese Männer selbständig abzuweisen, sich gegenüber deren Drohungen zu wehren und evtl. Zuschüsse zu verlieren wenn sie keine Männer die angeblich Frauen sind rein lassen. Außerdem wird das neben des alten Namens mit bis zu 10.000 Euro bestraft. Wie soll man der Polizei oder wem auch immer akkurat beschreiben wer sich Zutritt verschaffen will wenn man weder Geschlecht noch Namen nennen darf?! Weder Polizei noch BKA werden über die Änderung informiert! Wie soll die Polizei Personen die untertauchen wollen finden?! Dieses Nonsens Gesetz hat dermaßen katastrophale Konsequenzen für uns ALLE!!! Es muss WEG. Hast du dich überhaupt tiefer damit beschäftigt?! So „close“ kann der Blick dann nicht gewesen sein!
Yascha‘s book „The identity trap“ was great, so it astonishes me that he really doesn’t seem to understand that there really is no such thing as a legitimate trans person and the movement is also not legitimate because they consist of fetishists and other persons with an agenda that has nothing to do with equal rights. The first group was basically made trans by society and the second group is a political totalitarian movement that wants power and push men’s rights to take out their fetish in public.
I think he is playing devil's advocate here.
What a terrible interlocutor this man is! He responded to only one or two of HJ's comments, and then to interrupt her. Talking to him must've been like shouting down a well. He needs to work on his social skills if he's wanting to make a go of this work.
Helen Joyce is the voice of common sense and science - and ofcourse truth. No one can change their biology. It’s not a philosophical exercise - that reduces the issues to something really weak and unrealistic. The health consequences of all of these medical procedures are absolutely shocking and the treatments have 100% failure rate.
Love her
HJ 4 PM
What you don't understand, Yascha, is that the trans activists are not interested in a compromise. Their activist playbook clearly states that the take over of women's organizations and spaces is the what they demand.
Don't listen to Helen Joyce speak unless you're in the mood for being reminded about how sorry our politicians are. Here is a woman who knows what it means to prefer dignity and reason over compassion. She's rational, resilient, and just right. And the scariest thing about all this is that there are a lot of people (mostly on the left) who want to shut her down, take away her speech rights, or even imprison her. Instead, this should be viewed by all members of Congress. Bravo Yascha for asking penetrating questions.
I feel that Helen Joyce is incredibly compassionate, and she demonstrates how to apply rational reason for a dignified, compassionate outcome for all. I agree - politicians absolutely should listen to her, and take notes!
Seriously, let her speak.
Around minute 53: I think you, as a moderator, are fundamentally misunderstanding something. "Trans people" have never been excluded, the eccentrics, as I call them - are people who go against the norm and WANT to - have always found their passions, professions and places where they could live out their inclinations. They have created their own scenes. These were often not ordinary biographies, but unusual ones. And that is also the goal of all those who don't want to live an ordinary life. They have never been actively excluded because they have taken themselves out of the norm and not without a certain pride and vanity. Why people are now pretending that they are an excluded group is completely far-fetched. If you want to be and represent something special in life, then you DON'T want to catch up with the normies, then you ARE determined to have an existence that doesn't want that. Modernity, and the 80s and 90s in particular, showed an extreme openness towards anything extraordinary. Just think of the Love Parade and Burning Man and all the artistic and musical events around the world. The many professions and opportunities to get into the artist, actor- and music scene. But you have to be willing to pick up a profession, to work hard for that extraordinary life, in the same way you have to work and educate yourself in ordinary lives. I highly disagree with the notion that those "trans"-people were fighting in the same way gay people fought. I think it is actually individuals who suffer from their state of being, and they themselves need to find support to become more happy and satisfied with what condition they have. If they are willing, they will find the support they need, if they can articulate themselves and communicate in a proper way.
Well said!!
Yascha seems not completely informed entering this conversation. And didn't take in so many thought provoking statements of Helen. Rather ignored them. So it's really dull to end the conversation where he decided to. The only brave thing to me is publicly shed one's own failure to comprehend and reply.
Yascha seems not completely informed here. Really dull to run away from Helen's last statement!
He really doesn't get it.
37:35 Like i always say: you can’t just take a bite out of the ideology. You gotta eat the whole thing. Which (among other things) includes rapists in female prisons.
You cannot possibly know about manhood or womanhood, if you are not going fully into being one. You will only begin to understand it when you have gone through all the stages of life as a man or woman. This process takes a lifetime. To think that you can interrupt or even change it, and to do this to children, is to deprive them of a whole lifetime in which to realise their femininity or masculinity. What it means to be a man and a woman can only be said in retrospect, what it is like to have lived as such for thirty, forty and fifty years. It is completely impossible to know this beforehand. All the beautiful and less beautiful experiences of a sexual relationship allow a person to mature; they need both in order to be able to assess the other person. Sexual relationships require experience in sex but also in relationship. Kids cannot and will not be able to have a pre-notion about that. To say otherwise, is to lie to them.
Helen is admirably prolific in her output of interviews. There are always different angles she provides - all damning of so called “ gender affirming medicine” i.e. child abuse. Helen will prevail - one day she will achieve mainstream media coverage & it’s an absolute scandal that none of them have so far given her access!
I'd love to know how many people actually anylize why they like something.. I'm really not sure most people do that, why would you unless you felt the need to justify it to someone else..??
Helen Joyce is the most intelligent and measured voice on this issue. I never get tired of listening to her and I hope her voice continues to be heard so we can stop the damage to young people.
She is LYING to you. The Cass review was discredited as greatly FLAWED, Even Cass herself has said so. Here is the REAL truth about Gay and Transgenderism: It is NOT about chromosomes (the XX or the XY) or the BODY, it is about the STRUCTURE of the human brain. A Doctor with a Ph.D. in Genetics and his team did research on the STRUCTURE of the human brain. They studied the brain of straight women and straight men, gay women, and gay men, as well as transgendered women and transgendered men. What they found is this, the STRUCTURE of the brain between a male and a female is as different from each other as night is from the day. They also found that there are two distinct and separate areas of the brain that deal with sexuality and gender. They found that the area for sexual orientation in gay men is STRUCTURED the same as in straight women, NOT straight men, and in gay women, that area is STRUCTURED the same as in straight men, NOT straight women. Likewise, the center in the brain that deals with gender identity is the same, in transgender women (male to a female) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-women, (born and identify as female) NOT cis-men, (born and identify as male), and in transgender men, (female to male) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-men, NOT cis-women. It has been STRUCTURED this way since BEFORE birth. Two other teams in different parts of the world doing the same study all independent of each other found the exact same results. When a baby is first formed in the womb it is formed 100% female. Then after a few weeks, a signal from the father's genes tells the baby's body, the body only, to change and become male. The baby goes on for a few more weeks this way until it can produce a massive amount of the male hormone testosterone, which then tells the brain to change into the male pattern, such a massive amount will never be seen in that Child's life again except at the onset of puberty. If for some reason that baby does not get that massive dose of testosterone in the womb then the brain, or parts of it, continues to develop in the female pattern. Or in the case of gay women or Trans men, at some time in the mother's pregnancy that baby received a small dose of testosterone at the wrong time, either the mother ingested it somehow or her body produced it or the baby’s own body produced it all of which can and have happened. When a baby is being formed in the womb, any variation, even in the slightest, of the chemicals can cause birth defects. You have seen these birth defects in babies being born all the time, some born blind, or deaf, born with missing limbs, or heart problems, or even with a spine outside of the body, and many, many others. So why is it so hard for the right to believe that a person’s BRAIN can be STRUCTURED in the opposite way from what their bodies say they should be? You can believe in all other birth defects so why not this? I will use transgender women for this example, even though the body is male she likes all the same things a cis-gender woman likes, her emotional likes, wants and needs are the same as any woman's, and the way she sees the world is the same. Her interactions are the same, everything about her is the same as any cis-gender woman except the body. Sexual characteristics (the body) are set by the genes (the XX or the XY) but Gender is set by the STRUCTURE of the BRAIN, this has been proven through sound scientific study. Gender is how one see themselves and their place in the world and how they interact with it. If your body is set one way and your brain the other it causes a disharmony of mind and body (gender dysphoria) it is not now or ever has been a DELUSION or a PERVERSION or a MENTAL ILLNESS. When someone is going through life with this Dysphoria their life is a living hell, when people tell them that they can't be WHO they are inside because that person is uncomfortable with it then you are forcing the trans person to live in severe PAIN, Anxiety, and Depression, a PAIN that having your arms and legs cut off with a dull rusty hacksaw without any anesthetics seem like nothing in comparison, a pain that kills, LITERALLY KILLS. Think of everything you like and want as a man or a woman, everything that makes you, you, and then think how you would feel if you were constantly told that you can't have it, or be it, or do the things you love, because you are the opposite of who and what you are now, that you must bury everything that makes you, you because other people don't like it because it makes them uncomfortable, If constantly you were told that you were evil and dammed because you are who you are, denied a job, or a home, insulted, belittled, assaulted and even targeted to be KILLED just because you exist, how would you feel? Women, think how would you feel if you were forced to live, think, told to feel like and be a man, And told that you MUST do what men do, how men do it, see things the way men see them in order to be a man and you MUST be a man and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? Men, think how you would feel if you were forced to live, think, feel, and be a woman? Told that you MUST do what women do, how women do it, see things the way women see them in order to be a woman and you MUST be a woman and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? A trans woman does NOT fit, in a man’s social circle the same way a man does and yet they are expected to if they do not go through transition, they are expected to think, feel, and act just like any cis-gender man in that circle, but they can’t because their brain is STRUCTURED differently, so they are insulted, belittled beat on ridiculed, and humiliated by these men, constantly, all because their brain is STRUCTURED the same way a cis-gender woman’s brain is STRUCTURED. With their brain being STRUCTURED that way they would fit into a woman’s social circle but with their bodies being male, again they don’t fit in and they are excluded. They want to wear the same outfits the women wear because their brains tell them they should be just like them. Everything inside them SCREAMS that they are just like the people who are of the opposite gender and yet they are NOT allowed to be because other people are uncomfortable with them doing so, so they are FORCED to live in severe PAIN, anxiety, and depression. Trans people just want to be accepted for who they are, they want and are deserving of the very same rights as everyone else, no more and NO LESS. Here is the truth about the road to transition: First, the person MUST go to therapy, no therapy no transition, they will meet with a therapist who has knowledge and experience with transgender people. During this time they will begin social transitioning, social transitioning is nothing more than changing one's name and pronouns, and appearance such as hairstyle and clothing. Then after a number of sessions with the therapist (usually about a year) if the Dysphoria continues, and depending on the age of the person they may be given puberty blockers, (which are reversible). Then after many more sessions with the therapist and again if the Dysphoria continues they may be given hormones, it is these that have irreversible effects. Last: when they reach the age of CONSENT (CONSENT, NOT A KID, NO ONE IS DOING SURGERY ON KIDS) and if the Dysphoria continues, and if they have lived in the gender of their choice for a MINIMUM of 1 full year, and have letters from two therapists with one having a P.HD in psychology with both therapists having seen the person over a period of time they may get a consult from the surgeon, and there is usually a long waiting list for that, after the consult if the surgeon agrees then you get on the long waiting list for the surgery. IF ANYONE TELLS YOU DIFFERENTLY FROM THIS THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. Definition of a woman: How you define a woman is by how she sees herself, a woman is one who sees herself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a woman, thinks as a woman, acts as a woman, and lives as a woman, then what is the harm to treat and respect her as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Definition of a Man: How you define a man is by how he sees himself, a man is one who sees himself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a man, thinks as a man, acts as a man, and lives as a man, then what is the harm to treat and respect him as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you have a need to feel morally superior to others, “pull the beam out of your own eyes before you try to pull the mote out of another’s”. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you don’t understand it and it fills you with fear, fear of something that is different from what you are used to, different from YOU, either one goes forward or one stagnates and dies, you limit your thinking and can’t or won’t learn, grow, and adapt. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you just want to hate and hurt others, it gives you a sick thrill, and you use the LGBTQ as an excuse to do so. But ALL of you who do these are small, weak, insecure, monumentally stupid, and utterly pathetic excuses of human beings.
30:39 NO! NOOOOO! Dear Yascha, noooooooo! i get disappointed, i am giving up on you in this conversation temporary. Integrate what Helen said, not ignore it and go back. Noooo!
Do transsexuals think they should be first on the lifeboats? When the ship is going down, it’s adult human females and children into the lifeboats first. Not men. Not homosexuals. Not bisexual men. Not transvestite men. Not transexual men. Not intersex men. Not queer men. Women and children go first, men protect women from danger, a man in any garb with any surgery is not a woman, and vice versa. When the ship is going down it’s women, and children first. Not men.
Love her. Wish she was my mother ❤
LaRell's detransitioning story is another heartbreaking one. For Heaven's sake, my son was convinced he could/would marry me when he grew up.
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Trans is such a selfish ideology.