Just wondering what kit you would recommend, for a 2020 sportsman 850 touring with a mbrp slip on exhaust, 30 inch tires and a dynojet power series belt ? Thanks.
@verbi1969 Жыл бұрын
Why is the RVS running the tune on stock clutching?? If the RVS Ranger was tuned I would guess acceleration would be even better?!
@dsrgarage Жыл бұрын
So if you go with more shims to get the higher stall will that affect how smoothly you can takeoff? Will it be more jerky? I am going to be running 27 inch tires and want it to wheelie pretty good but also ride my son around so I don’t want it to be to jerky taking off
@andrewvantassel51812 жыл бұрын
Does clutch engagement RPM effect top speed?
@silveradosaga85952 жыл бұрын
Ryan is awesome he is very knowledgeable and helpful!!!! He got my general on point with tuning and clutch kit!
@donstaggs38272 жыл бұрын
Looks to be all in the clutching. If you look at the RPMs you will see that the RVS does not start to gain RPS until the clutch starts to get in to overdrive. (Maybe a 2 stage spring) In my opinion the RPMs should be at maximum throughout the run. Maximum belt squeeze and maximum RPM.
@badas95Z2 жыл бұрын
So the spring for the engagement is in the front clutch? Well I need to contact you to buy another spring or something I bought a 4 wheeler that has an EPI mudder clutch and the engagement is way too high for my liking. Also what’s the purpose of the secondary spring? Belt clamping or something?
@larrycurci7693 жыл бұрын
Larry Curci I just had all 4 screws that hold the helix on break off leaving me stranded after doing this clutch kit exactly as you did in this video. I used blue loctite. What loctite did you use? I have very little time on the machine with the clutch kit.
@1rustyshackelford3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Installed your clutch kit today and this video made it easy
@just-ride393 жыл бұрын
great video.
@John-px3mm3 жыл бұрын
What would be needed to try to get back to stock torque when putting 29.5 outlaw mud tires on a polaris sportsman 450? Would i need a gear reduction or a clutch kit?
@RVSPerformance3 жыл бұрын
Clutching will help get the power you have to the wheels better, but to get back to "stock" will require gear reduction and more HP.
@larrycurci7693 жыл бұрын
Is the 2016 Polaris Sportsman 1000xp the same design?
@RVSPerformance3 жыл бұрын
Yes 2011 up are all the same design
@suckafatone4 жыл бұрын
What a pain in the ass getting that secondary clutch out and in. I mean a real pain in the dick.
@NorthCountryBoyz4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@therowdyboysnetwork28274 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@downtown_brown22544 жыл бұрын
Did my clutch Thursday night, and went out to clean up the shop on Friday morning, and what do I find on the bench,,,, that stupid plastic bushing from the 2 min mark,,, so back apart it comes....
@alexcowell424 жыл бұрын
Have you had much problems with temps and belt life on the scrambler 1000’s? The ol man has one with 27” zillas and any time spent under hard load blows belts.
@MrFerrill4 жыл бұрын
Any video on how to align the clutches on these xp sportsman machines?
@mnels185 жыл бұрын
I have an 2013 850 scrambler with 26x8x14 26x10x14 tires...i noticed this customer went up to 27's with the clutch kit. If i go with 27's do i need a clutch kit or would i be ok with stock clutching?
@MrBerett3155 жыл бұрын
Well. I think I just killed my motor... You didn't say to never turn the primary clockwise. It tore up my timing. Now I get to bring it to the shop. Great.
@rvsperformance43855 жыл бұрын
Not possible. If you rotated the clutch clockwise and something broke in it, you already had huge issues to start with.
@djwood75295 жыл бұрын
Is this the same for a 2018 highlifter 850?
@rvsperformance43855 жыл бұрын
Yes other than a little more disassembly to get the snorkel tubing off to get the cover off.
@cannedham37745 жыл бұрын
hey man, nice vid thanks. I'm curious what clutching I should run on my stock 850 scrambler with 29.5 terminators. Also, I found a chunk missing on the primary clutch cover plate.. Bike runs and shifts fine.. How can I replace it without buying a whole new assembly?
@rvsperformance43855 жыл бұрын
Give us a call and we can discuss what works best for you. 651-500-0657
@shadams9116 жыл бұрын
Nice.....mine feels rock solid at 52 so I know it can do more. 3 inch lift with 28" tires and 1.5 spacers all the way around. I am just worried about the rpms, do these engines hold up well at those speeds?
@rvsperformance43856 жыл бұрын
shadams911 yes, they hold up great. They have the same motor the rzr does, just have the throttle and rpm electronically limited to reduce the performance. We remove those and change many other parameters in the ecu tune to allow it to run like it can.
@NorthCountryBoyz6 жыл бұрын
That’s simply insane! Lol. Ranger on roids!
@tomharvey283 Жыл бұрын
Not a ranger
@JeremyHall20116 жыл бұрын
I also have a question on these shims, so from my understanding you're saying with both shims in my machine won't move until I'm around 2400 rpm? I have a 2018 and it idles at 1250. And would you recommend no shims 1 or both. My typical riding style would be mud, mostly water and trails. No racing.
@mikenguyentxable6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, So at around 1:20, I see you took off the face plate on the Primary Clutch to access the spring and weights without taking off the clutch itself. Is there a lot of pressure from the spring on the Primary Clutch? Can this also be done on a 2017 Polaris Sportsman 570 EPS? I like the fact of not needing a clutch puller and just changing the spring and weights on the Primary Clutch while it's still on the bike.
@mikenguyentxable6 жыл бұрын
Got my answer from RVS Performance :) I don't have to take off the Primary Clutch to replace the spring and weights so follow the same procedure as in the video!!
@RVSPerformance6 жыл бұрын
None of the ATV primaries have much spring pressure like a snowmobile. Any o them can easily and safely have the cover removed without much effort.
@mikenguyentxable6 жыл бұрын
Thank you RVSPerformance. Yes the entire install was very smooth and the Performance Gain is well worth the $ spent. I ended up using just the thin shim and can do wheelies in Low Gear (Happy Grin on Face).
@bigm34366 жыл бұрын
Hey....I have a sortsman 1000 and I plow with it and I is very hard to shift it from low gear to rev. Can you lub the one way bearing?
@RVSPerformance6 жыл бұрын
Yes, they can be removed and serviced with some new grease.
@ryanstuck6036 жыл бұрын
What was top Speed stock
@rvsperformance43856 жыл бұрын
Ryan Stuck they are speed limited to 50 on crew and 60 on standards cab stock.
@timmyrogo41536 жыл бұрын
How can I do this to my ranger
@RVSPerformance6 жыл бұрын
You can purchase the tuning on our website at WWW.Shop.RVSperformance.com or give us a call and we can help you over the phone.
@TRUSSTRUCKER7 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to the 2015 850 and also wondering if you offer a helix to eliminate/ reduce the engine braking ?
@rvsperformance43856 жыл бұрын
Same for the 15 850 as well. No helix available for them yet, but will have something in a couple months. Just got castings in.
@Dave-us6yu7 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid!! What size socket did you grind down for using on the nuts for the primary weights?
@MrBerett3155 жыл бұрын
You can just use a 1/4" bit instead of grinding a 3/8 😂
@crgardner99able7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative, was just wondering the torque spec on the primary cover center bolt? Is it 38lbs like the secondary? Thanks
@rvsperformance43857 жыл бұрын
Chris Gardner 45 ft lbs
@sxscustom7 жыл бұрын
great video vary informational. hope to see more polaris 850 update videos
@jamesparmenter68947 жыл бұрын
Is that 800 a twin cylinder and if it's a single cylinder do they make a 800 big bore kit to fit my 570 sportsman? Thank you for the video bud it was very informative.Keep up the good work.
@screamin6.dem0n3 жыл бұрын
i had an 07 sportsman 800 and its a in line twin cylinder. very good with torque and towing power but slower for its cc in power and acceleration. great work quad
@HorsepowerGarageVideos7 жыл бұрын
Will this give a noticeable difference in engagement without raising rpm, stock engagement is too soft for me. It feels like the belt is slipping when I pin it from a stop, just kind of a boggy feel off the line.
@GunnyE97 жыл бұрын
Any word on when these SPI Slip-on exhaust will be shipping ?? I ordered one a month ago & no word as of yet ?? ANd when I call, I hear is, "Next Week" ??
@RVSPerformance7 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look at your order and see what's going on. I don't believe we have any orders more than about 2 weeks old and when you placed it we were told 2 weeks before they would be shipping from the manufacturer. I'll look tomorrow and call you with an update.
@GunnyE97 жыл бұрын
Right On !! .......... Thanks.
@danieldewitt94288 жыл бұрын
I'm confused on the engagement does want the engagement at a lower rpm or a higher rpm?? like say you just put the springs in without the shims will the clutches engage faster or slower??
@RVSPerformance6 жыл бұрын
No shims is the lowest engagement
@rvsperformance43858 жыл бұрын
the only difference in the 09-10 machines is the helix is not under spring pressure. there is a spring cup under it held in by a snap ring.
@Wildcowboy19888 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have 2010 550 xp and wanting to Run an aggressive 28-30 inch tire for mud. What kit do you recommend and would the installment be similar to this? I know you said they're a little different as far as how the springs are compressed
@rogerfuller44904 жыл бұрын
Mega mayhems from ITP!
@RVSPerformance9 жыл бұрын
Joe, It is very similar to the 570s. If you don't have ebs then the spring install on the secondary is different, but same basic idea.
@RVSPerformance9 жыл бұрын
Typical gains we see are 1 - 1 1/2 machine lengths in 500-600' against a stock machine.
@rzl073759 жыл бұрын
How many lengths does this add in a speed run if your drag racing?
@RVSPerformance9 жыл бұрын
Stock engagement on all year 850s is about 1800. The weight and spring combination in the primary controls peak rpm as well so you won't lose any on top either. In fact most of the QSC kits give a couple hundred more rpm to get you closer to the top of the peak rpm power band.
@sandykollmann49709 жыл бұрын
Nice Job Ryan
@RVSPerformance9 жыл бұрын
Jeremy, a shop press will work just fine. Just don't get carried away. It's only about 100lbs of pressure on the spring, not tons.
@JkJT-be6hb9 жыл бұрын
Is there an issue if I use my shop press to do the secondary clutch? Assuming I'm careful.
@ximer2110 жыл бұрын
hey guys where can i get this kit? i have the same bike and would like that clutch kit thanx
@RVSPerformance10 жыл бұрын
You can order directly from our web site at RVSperformance.com or you can call and order over the phone at 651-500-0657 8-6 central time Mon-Sat. These kits are custom built for each machine, mods, and use and are in stock ready to ship.
@bcfmef10 жыл бұрын
Good video. I would trash that rapid reaction secondary clutch and get a team 3 secondary clutch, which gives you the ability to swap out the helix and will give you partial engine braking. You can pick a good used one off of Ebay for $75.
@Lawdog10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Ryan is the top notch place to buy QSC clutches. Extremely knowledgeable and helpful.
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Thanks for the video
Just wondering what kit you would recommend, for a 2020 sportsman 850 touring with a mbrp slip on exhaust, 30 inch tires and a dynojet power series belt ? Thanks.
Why is the RVS running the tune on stock clutching?? If the RVS Ranger was tuned I would guess acceleration would be even better?!
So if you go with more shims to get the higher stall will that affect how smoothly you can takeoff? Will it be more jerky? I am going to be running 27 inch tires and want it to wheelie pretty good but also ride my son around so I don’t want it to be to jerky taking off
Does clutch engagement RPM effect top speed?
Ryan is awesome he is very knowledgeable and helpful!!!! He got my general on point with tuning and clutch kit!
Looks to be all in the clutching. If you look at the RPMs you will see that the RVS does not start to gain RPS until the clutch starts to get in to overdrive. (Maybe a 2 stage spring) In my opinion the RPMs should be at maximum throughout the run. Maximum belt squeeze and maximum RPM.
So the spring for the engagement is in the front clutch? Well I need to contact you to buy another spring or something I bought a 4 wheeler that has an EPI mudder clutch and the engagement is way too high for my liking. Also what’s the purpose of the secondary spring? Belt clamping or something?
Larry Curci I just had all 4 screws that hold the helix on break off leaving me stranded after doing this clutch kit exactly as you did in this video. I used blue loctite. What loctite did you use? I have very little time on the machine with the clutch kit.
Excellent video! Installed your clutch kit today and this video made it easy
great video.
What would be needed to try to get back to stock torque when putting 29.5 outlaw mud tires on a polaris sportsman 450? Would i need a gear reduction or a clutch kit?
Clutching will help get the power you have to the wheels better, but to get back to "stock" will require gear reduction and more HP.
Is the 2016 Polaris Sportsman 1000xp the same design?
Yes 2011 up are all the same design
What a pain in the ass getting that secondary clutch out and in. I mean a real pain in the dick.
Awesome!
Right on!
Did my clutch Thursday night, and went out to clean up the shop on Friday morning, and what do I find on the bench,,,, that stupid plastic bushing from the 2 min mark,,, so back apart it comes....
Have you had much problems with temps and belt life on the scrambler 1000’s? The ol man has one with 27” zillas and any time spent under hard load blows belts.
Any video on how to align the clutches on these xp sportsman machines?
I have an 2013 850 scrambler with 26x8x14 26x10x14 tires...i noticed this customer went up to 27's with the clutch kit. If i go with 27's do i need a clutch kit or would i be ok with stock clutching?
Well. I think I just killed my motor... You didn't say to never turn the primary clockwise. It tore up my timing. Now I get to bring it to the shop. Great.
Not possible. If you rotated the clutch clockwise and something broke in it, you already had huge issues to start with.
Is this the same for a 2018 highlifter 850?
Yes other than a little more disassembly to get the snorkel tubing off to get the cover off.
hey man, nice vid thanks. I'm curious what clutching I should run on my stock 850 scrambler with 29.5 terminators. Also, I found a chunk missing on the primary clutch cover plate.. Bike runs and shifts fine.. How can I replace it without buying a whole new assembly?
Give us a call and we can discuss what works best for you. 651-500-0657
Nice.....mine feels rock solid at 52 so I know it can do more. 3 inch lift with 28" tires and 1.5 spacers all the way around. I am just worried about the rpms, do these engines hold up well at those speeds?
shadams911 yes, they hold up great. They have the same motor the rzr does, just have the throttle and rpm electronically limited to reduce the performance. We remove those and change many other parameters in the ecu tune to allow it to run like it can.
That’s simply insane! Lol. Ranger on roids!
Not a ranger
I also have a question on these shims, so from my understanding you're saying with both shims in my machine won't move until I'm around 2400 rpm? I have a 2018 and it idles at 1250. And would you recommend no shims 1 or both. My typical riding style would be mud, mostly water and trails. No racing.
Hi Ryan, So at around 1:20, I see you took off the face plate on the Primary Clutch to access the spring and weights without taking off the clutch itself. Is there a lot of pressure from the spring on the Primary Clutch? Can this also be done on a 2017 Polaris Sportsman 570 EPS? I like the fact of not needing a clutch puller and just changing the spring and weights on the Primary Clutch while it's still on the bike.
Got my answer from RVS Performance :) I don't have to take off the Primary Clutch to replace the spring and weights so follow the same procedure as in the video!!
None of the ATV primaries have much spring pressure like a snowmobile. Any o them can easily and safely have the cover removed without much effort.
Thank you RVSPerformance. Yes the entire install was very smooth and the Performance Gain is well worth the $ spent. I ended up using just the thin shim and can do wheelies in Low Gear (Happy Grin on Face).
Hey....I have a sortsman 1000 and I plow with it and I is very hard to shift it from low gear to rev. Can you lub the one way bearing?
Yes, they can be removed and serviced with some new grease.
What was top Speed stock
Ryan Stuck they are speed limited to 50 on crew and 60 on standards cab stock.
How can I do this to my ranger
You can purchase the tuning on our website at WWW.Shop.RVSperformance.com or give us a call and we can help you over the phone.
Does this apply to the 2015 850 and also wondering if you offer a helix to eliminate/ reduce the engine braking ?
Same for the 15 850 as well. No helix available for them yet, but will have something in a couple months. Just got castings in.
Nice Vid!! What size socket did you grind down for using on the nuts for the primary weights?
You can just use a 1/4" bit instead of grinding a 3/8 😂
Great video! Very informative, was just wondering the torque spec on the primary cover center bolt? Is it 38lbs like the secondary? Thanks
Chris Gardner 45 ft lbs
great video vary informational. hope to see more polaris 850 update videos
Is that 800 a twin cylinder and if it's a single cylinder do they make a 800 big bore kit to fit my 570 sportsman? Thank you for the video bud it was very informative.Keep up the good work.
i had an 07 sportsman 800 and its a in line twin cylinder. very good with torque and towing power but slower for its cc in power and acceleration. great work quad
Will this give a noticeable difference in engagement without raising rpm, stock engagement is too soft for me. It feels like the belt is slipping when I pin it from a stop, just kind of a boggy feel off the line.
Any word on when these SPI Slip-on exhaust will be shipping ?? I ordered one a month ago & no word as of yet ?? ANd when I call, I hear is, "Next Week" ??
I'll have to look at your order and see what's going on. I don't believe we have any orders more than about 2 weeks old and when you placed it we were told 2 weeks before they would be shipping from the manufacturer. I'll look tomorrow and call you with an update.
Right On !! .......... Thanks.
I'm confused on the engagement does want the engagement at a lower rpm or a higher rpm?? like say you just put the springs in without the shims will the clutches engage faster or slower??
No shims is the lowest engagement
the only difference in the 09-10 machines is the helix is not under spring pressure. there is a spring cup under it held in by a snap ring.
Great video. I have 2010 550 xp and wanting to Run an aggressive 28-30 inch tire for mud. What kit do you recommend and would the installment be similar to this? I know you said they're a little different as far as how the springs are compressed
Mega mayhems from ITP!
Joe, It is very similar to the 570s. If you don't have ebs then the spring install on the secondary is different, but same basic idea.
Typical gains we see are 1 - 1 1/2 machine lengths in 500-600' against a stock machine.
How many lengths does this add in a speed run if your drag racing?
Stock engagement on all year 850s is about 1800. The weight and spring combination in the primary controls peak rpm as well so you won't lose any on top either. In fact most of the QSC kits give a couple hundred more rpm to get you closer to the top of the peak rpm power band.
Nice Job Ryan
Jeremy, a shop press will work just fine. Just don't get carried away. It's only about 100lbs of pressure on the spring, not tons.
Is there an issue if I use my shop press to do the secondary clutch? Assuming I'm careful.
hey guys where can i get this kit? i have the same bike and would like that clutch kit thanx
You can order directly from our web site at RVSperformance.com or you can call and order over the phone at 651-500-0657 8-6 central time Mon-Sat. These kits are custom built for each machine, mods, and use and are in stock ready to ship.
Good video. I would trash that rapid reaction secondary clutch and get a team 3 secondary clutch, which gives you the ability to swap out the helix and will give you partial engine braking. You can pick a good used one off of Ebay for $75.
Excellent video. Ryan is the top notch place to buy QSC clutches. Extremely knowledgeable and helpful.
Great vid thanks for sharing!